The Psychology of Losing
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- The master has lost more games than the amateur has even played!
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The feeling of losing is so overwhelming that its what stops me from playing chess regularly.
Yes. Sometimes I refrain from playing just to avoid the feeling of intense frustration caused by defeat or blundering important pieces...
If you win more than you lose then is that not a goal.
I looked at Hikaru's puzzle rating and he is 51% successful so if I can be that (obviously not at his level) then it's a goal for me.
@@greamespens1460 One might still feel awful 49% of the time though. One percent won't change how a loss feels.
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Same unfortunatelly
A lot of times I don’t want to play online because I’m afraid of losing and dropping my rating. One idea that’s helped me start more games is to think of myself as the thing that watches and improves at chess from game to game, instead of the thing that wins or loses chess games. If your mission is to learn the types of mistakes you make in order to learn how to not make them instead of only winning games, it’s a lot easier to accept that you might lose while still recognizing the significance of losing
What helped me was letting go of the need to make my rating look good. There was also the shame that I played over 1000 games and still at 500 ELO. I tied my ego and self worth to the rating, and ever since I stopped caring and played chess for fun, I found myself to enjoy the game a lot more.
Chess is the only game where I'm such a sore loser. For some reason I take my casual chess games way too seriously. I'm not happy that you lost in the tournament but I'm happy it inspired you to make this video. Thank you. We are probably a good number of people who needed to hear this. :)
Same with me... I guess it's because losing a chess game usually directly reflects your skill level and the mistakes you made, that's what makes it different from other board games.
"I'll make better mistakes tomorrow." I love that quote!
I'm kind of addicted to chess like a drug. I play it when I'm bored but it doesn't really make me feel good. And losing just ruins my entire day, but at the same time, makes me play more. It's a vicious cycle.
Sometimes I feel the same. According to Chat.OpenAi, Negative Effects of playing games on mobile phone is
Addiction: Excessive gaming, especially in the form of mobile game addiction, can lead to negative consequences, including reduced productivity, withdrawal from real-life social interactions, and increased stress and anxiety.
Well said.
Very down to earth. I've just started watching some of your videos but they've all resonated with me. It's not hyped up "entertainment" for clicks and followers...which makes it much more entertaining, helpful, and followable. You speak to your audience as fellow chess players...regardless of Elo....instead coming at us like you're a chess goddess. Thanks for the content Kamryn.
Having lost an embarrasing game this past weekend, this video came right at the perfect time for me. Thank you for the advice and the game analysis. They were both very helpful!
Losing is such a hard thing, thank you for the video! I’ve combated it mentally by telling myself I have to play two games no matter what. I then started doing what you mentioned a few months ago and taking notes on all my games, and spending most of my time studying my game. It really helped and I wanted to say thank you for the advice. I really like your videos and I hope you continue to make them into the future!
I also wanted to mention that your advice and videos helped me go from 1300 to 1500 in two weeks as I went on a 15 game win streak once I got past my mental block.
best chess youtuber so far, this fresh perspective from a new generation of chess players will do wonders for the game, keep on doing the very good work
Great one!
May I ask: As an adult improver, what is your overall long term goals in chess.. what do you aspire for?
One more thing, as an adult improver myself, I suggest you delve deep in the psychological aspect of chess.. we tend to take chess more personally, especially losing! Can you talk more about this area? Kids look at chess as a game.. adults look at chess as neurosurgery, so how can an adult break free of this perception?
Thanks a lot
Thank you so much for this! I lost a tournament game last night to a kid, and found out after that I was completely winning. He showed me when we were done that I sacked a rook unnecessarily in the late middlegame, and if I didn't I would have definitely won. I was feeling pretty upset about it, but this put a lot in perspective!
Thank you so much for your perspective on the game, it is really encouraging and positive, not weak at all.
This is great. Thank you for sharing.
thank you for the personal and insightful comments. for me, I try to make losing the fuel for my next win, it is a high octane fuel that powers my resolve to play better but when I do lose I strive to lose better, land more softly.
I really appreciate your videos, Kamryn. The step-by-step pace in your analyzes is a great help, They´re relatable. I´m way beyond your ELO, I´m like 1100 but can sometimes beat 1300-1400 elo-guys, and at times even my 13-year old son son who´s ´round 2000: I watch Hikaru´s and Gothams videos, and they´re entertaining, but I learn nothing from them. They move too fast, their focus is either not on actually teaching chess or I´m just too thick too understand them. They move too fast for me. I love your and Eric Rosens videos and you guys give me hope for my own game. I will do what I can to promote your channel.
Thanks for the important points to keep in mind. I feel like I have gotten a lot better about losing. You had mentioned this in another video, but limiting yourself to a few long games per day helps with not tilting too.
THANK YOU for making this video
I love your videos. Please keep them coming. I'm learning so much from every video.
Thanks for the video. I think it's a very healthy approach to the game.
Losses are also great in that they can naturally guide study priorities.
The Psychology Today article is quite good as well!
Thank you, Kamryn! I’m a 65 yo beginner. Love the common sense approach to your videos…
I'm a winner when it comes to losing
I really enjoy your perspective on chess. Thanks for all you do!
Hey im now 2100 rapid. I was around 1500 when you posted ur first video and gave me a lot of inspiration! Just like watching your videos for more motivation. My goal is 2200 in under a year and a half. Reached 2k in about a year but only really got 100 elo since lol.
Kamryn, your comment about the knight that hung around on your side of the board reminded me of a RUclipsr who produces lots of vids on Fischer. Bobby had an axiom, never let my opponent leave a piece of her's on my side of the board. I take that to mean, as long as I don't lose value, or a bishop or knight pair early on, grab the offending piece. If I can't do that, find a way to overwhelm the offending piece. The best analogy I can think of, to paraphrase: A woman's home is her castle. So kick out the peasants in.
Very wise words! Thank you!
That was very useful thanks
I'm hesitant to play humans because I hate the feeling of losing. I've been trying to build up the confidence to play people online. This really helps. Thank you!
I highly recommend playing humans because playing bots just isn't the same, and unfortunately I don't think it's really preparing you to play human opponents, because bots make such weird unhuman moves.
1 loss impacts me more than 5 wins
When I lose, I hate myself so much cause I studied so much. It’s like failing a test after studying for days. It’s a gutting feeling. But got to pick myself up and keep going
Went from 1300 to 1200 this week. Before that i was something around 1150 and after huge period of studying chess only (without playing any games) started crushing all of my opponents very severely (even 1400’s was so easy to outplay) and got 150 elo in two weeks. And one day i just lost a totaly winning position by only one mistake and opponent saw that and took advantage. Tried to overcome this stupid defeat with a next probably easy winning game and lost 80% of them during week because idk how but 1100’s and 1200’s didn’t make a single blunder and outplayed me constantly like a strong 1500+ players. It’s so frustrating.
Exactly same happened with me this week man it's so frustrating
It’s understandable to lose against someone much stronger than you. What is painful is losing to someone that you think you should have easily defeated.
Switching to having the flower wall on the side instead of directly behind you was a good choice.
My Chessteacher at my club used to say "Its not the games you WIN you learn to be a better player from, but the games you LOOSE!" AS long as you don't make same misstakes over and over again. Analyse the game and/or try a different opening.
If you haven't seen it yet, Chess Structures by Mauricio Flores Rios is a very good book about pawn positions and planning
Rxd6 looked like a natural exchange sacrifice. The knight is doing a lot more than your rook. But the pawns would still be a problem, so idk how good it actually would be.
Props for playing 1.e4 and not sticking to the London for the rest of your chess life! You might lose a couple of games in the beginning, but you'll see more interesting positions and become a stronger player in the long run.
You are going to lose at chess….no matter how good you are it doesn’t mean someone of a lower rating is not going to beat you. So there is nothing to feel bad about so long as you don’t make the same mistake over and over again. Analysing a lost game is interesting. Partly because there was probably an opportunity to catch up when you were down, but the stress of being under pressure caused you to miss it. Leave bruised ego’s out of chess. You will automatically become a better player.
Haven’t played a ranked game in over a month
I'm convinced that how one deals with defeats is what separates the great from the mediocre, with chess and many other aspects of life.
Well Magnus isn't a great example of that, he's one of the sorest losers out there, but the best chess player.
The sooner I learned to stop beating myself up for silly mistakes and actively engage my energy into learning the lines and find out where the mistake was made rather than dwelling on it, the sooner I saw improvements. No use crying over spilt milk, it's already happened. Learn what you can from it and use your loss to your gain.
This is the whole reason why I have a new laptop. I smashed my old laptop against a wall after I lost a chess game online.
Chess hurts.
Good video
What is your Fide Elo?
The problem with getting your elo up to 2000 is all the people who have already gotten to 2200.
your voice is similar to alexandra botez
I’ve never lost a chess game, I either win or I LEARN
You only lose if you didnt learn
Love you videos but I believe that's a weak mentality if you really focas on something and loss you have to get angry study more train more hate to loss not accepting losing and that's when you will win (btw rip the 🐐 Bobby Fisher)🦍
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