High power ozone generator teardown with schematic

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  • Опубликовано: 1 дек 2020
  • These modules are being widely sold on eBay, both inside cases with fans, or in their bare form.
    It's worth mentioning that these units shouldn't really be used outside a grounded metal case for a few reasons:-
    They operate at very high voltage. Around 4kV and probably in the region of 30mA.
    They will get quite hot in use. Possibly too hot without fan cooling.
    The failure mode is sometimes a sustained hot electrical arc.
    They will almost certainly emit huge quantities of electrical noise.
    The level of ozone generated, especially with a fan, is huge. They are not suitable for use in small rooms other than for shock ozone treatment. I'd categorise these as industrial modules.
    The circuitry was surprising. Very reminiscent of an electronic halogen driver. I'm wondering if this is the same circuitry used in electronic neon power supplies.
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  • @JimGriffOne
    @JimGriffOne 3 года назад +121

    I like the smell of ozone. It's really fresh, like when there's a strong storm close by that smells of ozone. It's always a great time to go outside with a metal rod and collect electrons for later use.

    • @gs425
      @gs425 3 года назад +17

      Especially if you ignore that it's poisonous lol

    • @remty516
      @remty516 3 года назад +21

      @@gs425 I don't think the ozone is the danger here...

    • @bardenegri21
      @bardenegri21 3 года назад +16

      It's not so great in this kind of quantities. Smells awesome outside when naturally produced, but holy crap it stinks when there's a lot.

    • @Rob_Dingemans
      @Rob_Dingemans 3 года назад +11

      I love the smell of old skool copiers and model trains creating ozone. Maybe not healthy but a Corona discharge of ozone keeps the viruses away 😎

    • @zachaliles
      @zachaliles 3 года назад +6

      That's some good old fashioned pixie wrangling like they did in the old days.

  • @cody-en7nt
    @cody-en7nt 10 месяцев назад +7

    Even the regulars here can benefit from your knowledge....repetition makes perfection.

  • @brianargo4595
    @brianargo4595 3 года назад +28

    I worked in home restoration (water, fire, mold, and biohazard remediation) and I'm repeatedly amazed at how small super high output ozone generators have become. We had been using one with electrodes sandwiching six inch glass tubes, with the whole apparatus being about 6 cubic feet. When I left, the company I was working for was all aflutter about getting one the size of a toaster, and now this.

  • @robinbrowne5419
    @robinbrowne5419 3 года назад +82

    It was probably shipped air-mail. That's when it flies through the air into the shipping bin.

    • @redsquirrelftw
      @redsquirrelftw 3 года назад +12

      On a 737 Max. Those landings can be a little rough.

    • @annelisemeier283
      @annelisemeier283 3 года назад

      Red Squirrel yikes

    • @MrJef06
      @MrJef06 3 года назад +6

      The other day they were showing a post office warehouse on the TV, it was about the combined effect of lock down and Christmas season coming and basically they were a bit overwhelmed with packages. The warehouse manager was being interviewed and he was talking very calmly and seriously. At the same time you could see packages occasionally flying in the background as employees were supposedly "sorting" them :D

    • @chri-k
      @chri-k 3 года назад +1

      @@MrJef06 :D

  • @jimmyb1451
    @jimmyb1451 3 года назад +63

    I have one of these.
    They really do produce a metric ASS LOAD of ozone in seconds with both plates running. You definitely do not want to be in the same room. I bought it to cure a flea infestation in a house I moved into. Fixed the problem within a week.

    • @Wirralguy
      @Wirralguy 3 года назад +13

      Yep, I have one in a plastic box with a 4" fan and it is certainly an efficient way of getting odours out of a car. I leave it running for 10 minutes with the air-con on recirc and that's all it needs (well apart from the half hour airing out afterwards).

    • @ikocheratcr
      @ikocheratcr 3 года назад +6

      Interesting use to kill a flea infestation... kinda makes sense. I got me thinking to deal with bugs in my home office. Pretty attractive idea.

    • @jaymzx0
      @jaymzx0 3 года назад +7

      Yup, I have one that lives in a cardboard box unused because it generates _so much ozone_ . I powered it up initially and ran it for about 30 seconds outside on my patio, and it took several minutes for the ozone smell to dissipate.

    • @stonedsavage7814
      @stonedsavage7814 3 года назад +3

      @@Wirralguy your car has an ozone generator built into the air vents to prevent mold otherwise it would smell real bad after a while (it isn't perfect) BMW have the best ones.

    • @zuestoots5176
      @zuestoots5176 3 года назад +15

      @@stonedsavage7814 very few if any cars have that system.

  • @phils4634
    @phils4634 3 года назад +19

    Our local farmer uses a box with TWO of those (and a 120mm p.c. fan) to produce enough ozone to fumigate barns / storage areas. He finds it excellent for residue-free control of everything from fungi / moulds to the "larger" pests - particularly cockroaches. They may be immune from everything else, but ozone does them in quickly and efficiently. Also great for reducing the pong in the milking parlour during quiet times (and of course is a great sanitising agent!)

    • @phils4634
      @phils4634 3 года назад +4

      I've often wondered if the very enhanced oxidation potential of ozone (in combination with the usual Aussie hot, dry summer weather) might increase the risk of spontaneous combustion in e.g. silage? Since most of the heat's produced by microbial metabolism (and the ozone kills off the microbes), the reduction in local heat generation might offset the oxidiser effect of the ozone? Almost worth a small (undergrad. level) research project perhaps?

  • @peteasmr2952
    @peteasmr2952 3 года назад +13

    You are a big reason I got an Ozone generator. And I have learned a lot about resistors, bridge rectifiers, and alot about how led lights work and how lighting was done in the past.

  • @BillyNoMates1974
    @BillyNoMates1974 3 года назад +36

    love that sizzle sound at 4:37
    reminds me of when Big Clive cooked those sausages in that mains cooker

    • @bearicade5582
      @bearicade5582 3 года назад +4

      Big Clive makes The Presto HotDogger quite entertaining!

    • @ScottAllenFinance
      @ScottAllenFinance 13 дней назад

      @@bearicade5582 I bet Big Clive could meaningfully improve the design of the infamous BluthCo CornBaller.... one moment, please....

  • @TechGorilla1987
    @TechGorilla1987 3 года назад +24

    I've been using O3 for refreshing my house for years. My first generator involved a 2 kilo neon transformer, metal windows screen and a Prego sauce jar. Ghetto as, but it really worked. A timer is a must. O3 is not safe for pets and people.

  • @UhrwerkKlockwerx
    @UhrwerkKlockwerx 3 года назад +159

    “Is it a good idea? Nope. Am I gonna do it anyway? Yes.”
    Story of my life.

    • @bovinespongiformflu
      @bovinespongiformflu 3 года назад +11

      is this plate going to hold a charge. clive: proceed to touching plate.

  • @abyssalreclass
    @abyssalreclass 3 года назад +19

    That looks like the kind of thing you'd mount inside an HVAC system to treat the air for an entire building.

  • @ShinoPuppy
    @ShinoPuppy 3 года назад +111

    1:53: That quote sums up this channel. "Is this a good idea? No. Am I going to do it anyways? Yes."

    • @jaymzx0
      @jaymzx0 3 года назад +3

      That's why we're here!

    • @prolognotebooks889
      @prolognotebooks889 3 года назад +1

      That and BigClive being one of the few people who would be excited to buy a broken product!

    • @logikgr
      @logikgr 3 года назад

      Conspiracy Theory RUclipsrs: ?????
      Hey Guys, let me tel you how Homer Simpson is based on Big Clive and how this makes sense.
      ?????
      Profit!!!

    • @UhrwerkKlockwerx
      @UhrwerkKlockwerx 3 года назад

      I feel like this comment is underrated

    • @darylcheshire1618
      @darylcheshire1618 3 года назад

      he’s less noisy than Electroboom!

  • @frykasj
    @frykasj 3 года назад +96

    That thing sounds like a whole hive of angry pixies while it's on.

    • @johnnyreb3487
      @johnnyreb3487 3 года назад

      And they are schooching.

    • @ncot_tech
      @ncot_tech 3 года назад +2

      That thing is belting out RF, I'm surprised the camera didn't shut down in protest. I bet there were people in Ireland hitting their TVs trying to work out why the image had just vanished ;-) Can't imagine it was subjected to any safety tests.

    • @SilvaDreams
      @SilvaDreams 3 года назад +2

      @@ncot_tech It's from China of course it hasn't had any safety tests.

    • @ketansaart1546
      @ketansaart1546 3 года назад +1

      The purple buzzes are called corona. I have made DIY ozone generator to disinfect parcels from corona. Corona to kill corona.

    • @Monkeyshaman
      @Monkeyshaman 3 года назад +2

      @@ketansaart1546 'honey why is our electric bill, uh. How do you say, a a stack of with a bunch of zeroes on it?'
      '😬heating maybe _idk the always on ozone generator maybe, idk._

  • @bearicade5582
    @bearicade5582 3 года назад +19

    My household uses Big Clive videos to play a game.
    In this game,We attempt to say the names of every component BEFORE Big Clive.
    It's hilarious.

  • @Space_Reptile
    @Space_Reptile 3 года назад +22

    Clive:"i can hear the buzz"
    Microphone: *bbbbbbbbbbBBBBBBBBBBBBBRRRRRRRRZZZZZZ*

    • @antkoos
      @antkoos 3 года назад

      you can't even hear his voice ;)

    • @UNSCPILOT
      @UNSCPILOT 3 года назад +1

      It's likely ultrasonic noise that we can't hear but it drives the microphone absolutely mad with interference, a few people have tried to exploit that to make microphone jammers

  • @TheMrSeagull
    @TheMrSeagull 3 года назад +67

    Ah yes, the classic method of checking if something has a charge by tapping it with your fingers :)

    • @FishFingers121
      @FishFingers121 3 года назад +4

      Its not stupid if it works!

    • @DaneH64
      @DaneH64 3 года назад +1

      The most convenient and cheap tool, your finger and in some cases your life

    • @wiktorszymczak4760
      @wiktorszymczak4760 3 года назад +2

      Even if something goes wrong, i wont even notice!

    • @gustavgnoettgen
      @gustavgnoettgen 2 года назад

      Just the sort of thing a naked metal wrench would say

  • @2309phil
    @2309phil 3 года назад +1

    Hey BigClide, thanks for that video. I bought that same Ozone-nator, however mine was advertised as a 12V device. Thanks to you, I opened it up and saw, a 400V Cap, which lead me to belive it was a 230V generator. Hooked it up to mains voltage, ducked for cover, turned it on and it worked. But it suffered the same damage as yours, top plate cracked.
    Thanks again, have a good one.

  • @Tas-Devil
    @Tas-Devil 3 года назад +3

    I have 2 of those mounted on a board with a fan blowing across them, They produce an enormous amount of ozone.
    On the side of the units they suggest 12g/H, but who know how much they are really producing, all I know is its a lot.
    For removing cigarette smells from houses or urine smells from old public toilets it does an amazing job.

  • @peterbrown6224
    @peterbrown6224 3 года назад +47

    Broken on arrival. 1000s of volts hanging in the breeze.Gasses its operator.
    This belongs on Clive's affiliate page·

    • @nakedzebra67
      @nakedzebra67 3 года назад +2

      1000s? what kinda grid you running in the uk?

    • @TheDarkness344
      @TheDarkness344 3 года назад

      @@nakedzebra67uk is ~240V but it gets boosted up by the circuit in the thing and runs around 4000 volts

    • @nakedzebra67
      @nakedzebra67 3 года назад

      @@TheDarkness344 yah most places are 240... That still doesnt explain how or why you have 4000v coming through a cellphone wire. if it was just discharging a capacitor then maybe. but just saying the circuit makes magic.

    • @nakedzebra67
      @nakedzebra67 3 года назад

      @@TheDarkness344 I love how your the one to speak up. 4000v from a 240v source with no step up transformer. yah its the circuit. still nice to know the UK still in a fairytale

    • @TheDarkness344
      @TheDarkness344 3 года назад

      Lol I thought u meant that we had 4000v as mains electricity lol

  • @keithking1985
    @keithking1985 3 года назад +4

    i like how ya draw that "lazy rectifier" there's no mistaking what it represents. which is always a plus in my book.

  • @daveayerstdavies
    @daveayerstdavies 3 года назад +3

    My first job in 1974 at Mullard Research labs was screen printing conductive inks on ceramic substrate material. The ink was fired like a pottery glaze at high temperature.

    • @kjdude8765
      @kjdude8765 3 года назад +3

      I'm guessing the top coating is also a clear glaze which is why it was so hard.

  • @josephe3697
    @josephe3697 3 года назад +12

    About 2 years ago I assembled the exact same unit in a small wooden box with a fan and timer and I do use it from time to time to sterilise rooms in my house. A great Covid killer!

  • @stridermt2k
    @stridermt2k 3 года назад +13

    Watching this stuff never gets old for me.
    I remember as a kid taking random stuff apart but ultimately being baffled by this or that.
    These journeys are way better because I have a guide! :D

    • @treed5953
      @treed5953 3 года назад +1

      Yeah, yeah, me too.Ah,as a kid 🙄

    • @ScottAllenFinance
      @ScottAllenFinance 13 дней назад

      Same here! Man, wouldn't it have been absolutely wild to have had access to resources like Big Clive, AvE, and EEVblog (among many others excellent engineering-focused channels) when we were kids?? I can't imagine how different things would be. I wanted to get into so many technical projects and concepts growing up, but there was no Big Clive a few mouse clicks away to explain all this stuff in a clear way.
      I hope (but I'm sure it's futile) kids today on some level realize how lucky they are. I sure realize and appreciate how lucky I am, even as a dude in his early 40s, to be able to tap into the expertise and mastery that giants like Big Clive altruistically provide. Bottom line, it's just awesome! Not much more to say. Appreciate your comment so much @stridermt2k. Take care

  • @tybofborg
    @tybofborg 3 года назад +3

    I couldn't make heads or tails of this schematic. Thank you for the explanation. It's a clever circuit, very good at what it does. I have one of these ozone generators (albeit it runs on 12V, but I imagine it works largely the same), and it indeed uses a lot of power, some 80W in my case. I imagine I could put it in an old PC PSU case for insulation, fanning and cooling.

  • @davasg96
    @davasg96 3 года назад +51

    Corona discharge somehow has quite a different meaning on 2020

  • @pfunnell70
    @pfunnell70 3 года назад +3

    Just took delivery of one of these...
    Featuring the classic black as L and red as N...
    Can confirm RCD in our consumer unit is functioning correctly...

  • @russellm7530
    @russellm7530 9 месяцев назад +2

    These things are great. I just recently got one off eBay.
    I've had it one day.
    They really kill odors great so far.

  • @BedsitBob
    @BedsitBob 3 года назад +57

    "Is this thing holding a charge?"
    Then he sticks his fingers on it, to find out.

    • @SigEpBlue
      @SigEpBlue 3 года назад +8

      You'd never believe how many of us thought, and would do, the exact same. 🤣

    • @georgebayliss3291
      @georgebayliss3291 3 года назад +4

      If it did it would be like that cattle prod Clive tested on himself a while back.

  • @MostlyInteresting
    @MostlyInteresting 3 года назад +2

    I used one of these to replace the failed 60hz AC HV transformer in my old commercial ozone generator. 85 Watts! into 4 3x5 inch double sided stainless mesh on ceramic plates. (I binned the originals) It will run you out of the room in a couple of min. Good thing it has a timer. My generator had originally a .5A breaker on the HV side. I had to change it to a 1A since its pulling 85 watts now. Mine seems to be one power level down from the one that you have, judging from the length of the heat sink. the 40 W one has a heat sink about 1/2 the length of the case. Mine is about 80% of the length of the case. Yours is the big dog!

  • @Johnmatrixx81
    @Johnmatrixx81 3 года назад +1

    Finally :D
    7 months ago I searched through all your creations of discreation to identify the blown up parts in what used to be a key element for my homemade diesel particle filter reversing process.( Im not a big fan of car brand workshop rules)
    Since I did not find it here, I put it on the "see u later shelf" and guessed that it was just a matter of time.
    At least for once or so, I was correct and finally have identified the blasted part. Thank you so much ! =)
    The story may easily ended here, but things are not always as easy as expected.
    Wise from the blast in my past, before powerup I measured fwV of the NPNs whom probably was the main cause rather than collaterals, and I had offcourse only some smaller MJE13005 as a somewhat almost nearby complimentary.
    But I have like a ton, or at least a small bag full of IRF 740 "N" mosfets, and I cant really see why they wont do the job just as good. But something one not can see, can just as well only be an issue regarded blured vision from these marvelous bewildered beverages one may randomly endeavour.
    I have also a lot of the bigger IRFP460 that could be tried, but my main consern is to rather understand whats going to happen, rather than just learn by "Trial and terror" so my question for you is that if I am missing some details, could you please give a minute and mention what I may ignore, then it would be just as highly appreciated by me as probably my dear tenant, whom gets unusually scared everytime the main fuses randomly blow by complete mysterious manners.
    Best regards Eivind.

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  3 года назад

      There are a lot of different transistors with different pin arrangements and characteristics. It's best to try and use the exact original component.

  •  3 года назад +1

    I have two of those, and paired with an oscilating fan they work remarkably well

  • @cgoad
    @cgoad 3 года назад +5

    Hi Clive. I've had a pair of these for well over a year. One 120v🇨🇦 and one 12v. I didn't like them being out in the open so I made square glass "tubes" for them and added small fans. If odour is any indicator, the 120v one produces more ozone than my small (-ish) commercial unit!
    I haven't had the right testing equipment, but I recently bought some. Now all I have to do is figure out where I put the things! They were on display (they sat on a shelf near my work table), but I think I must have moved them to storage. Now they may never be found. Don't store things unless it's in translucent plastic containers!
    Of course after watching this, I'm going to have to waddle through the snow into my storage and try and find them. Sigh. I don't know whether to curse you or thank you for the renewed interest. I think thank you is probably the strongest and most accurate at the moment. Until I land in the snow! 🤣

  • @simonmikkelsen
    @simonmikkelsen 3 года назад +40

    The big question is: Will it carbonate?

    • @covishen
      @covishen 3 года назад +1

      I thought it was "will it blend?"

    • @tbelding
      @tbelding 3 года назад +1

      No, but it's good at ozonating.

  • @johnconrad5487
    @johnconrad5487 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for the review. It started at 130 Watts and crept up to above 161 within a few seconds. No doubt if you had left it on much longer it would have gone up in smoke.

  • @michaelbuchs8557
    @michaelbuchs8557 3 года назад +10

    i just was waiting for you to test those ozon generators

  • @175726
    @175726 Год назад +1

    Brilliant deduction. Excellent videos!

  • @esra_erimez
    @esra_erimez 3 года назад +8

    "Are you sitting comfortably? Then, I shall begin."

    • @twotone3070
      @twotone3070 3 года назад +1

      Watch with Mother

    • @Monkeyshaman
      @Monkeyshaman 3 года назад

      *SIKE! NOT GONNA TALK UNLESS YOU'RE DOING JUMPING JACKS*
      😳

  • @Blazer02LS
    @Blazer02LS 3 года назад +3

    I've used a portable ozone generator that looks like that but in a case with a fane to kill the odors in rooms and cars. Also works good to kill off mold in basements. Wipes out many bugs as well.

  • @Patriotman54
    @Patriotman54 3 года назад +1

    thank you for the honesty and knowledge

  • @b3j8
    @b3j8 3 года назад +8

    When I heard that buzzing I had the urge to laugh maniacally and yell IT'S ALIVE!!😂😂

  • @AluVixapede
    @AluVixapede 3 года назад +6

    Me: Wow that thing sounds horrible.
    Me, two seconds later: I kind of want one.

  • @prolognotebooks889
    @prolognotebooks889 3 года назад +2

    BigClive - one of the few people who would be excited to buy a broken product!

  • @seannot-telling9806
    @seannot-telling9806 3 года назад +1

    Clive thank You for taking one of those apart. I got one and was wondering what was under the cover. I found that when you have a fab blowing air over the plates that run somewhat more on the quiet side. I would like you to try and see if with a fan the HPPI would read the same or if it will change the readings or not.

  • @theSILKROAD210
    @theSILKROAD210 3 года назад +36

    Oh Boi I have a great idea for a collaboration: could you help Explosions&Fire to make an efficient Ozone Generator for Chemistry purposes.

    • @remty516
      @remty516 3 года назад +8

      Ah yes, Chemistry.

    • @Namenloser_
      @Namenloser_ 3 года назад +3

      He already show's a great way
      If its a collaboration with explosives&fire this is going to be very informative but boring

    • @whoeveriam0iam14222
      @whoeveriam0iam14222 3 года назад +1

      Gonna be tough with a 12 hour timezone difference

    • @chrisakaschulbus4903
      @chrisakaschulbus4903 3 года назад +2

      @@whoeveriam0iam14222 because it's unheard of clive doing stuff very late (relative to his timezone, of course)
      and why would he have to build it at the same time when ex&fi is awake? ^^

  • @notsonominal
    @notsonominal 3 года назад +2

    Found one with 2x3.5g plates that seems to have a socket to facilitate replacing the plates and spares available on AliExpress. Ordered and fingers crossed it'll survive shipping - thanks for the review!

    • @notsonominal
      @notsonominal 3 года назад

      @bigclivedotcom mine arrived as 110V if you fancy seeing how it does with 230V I can ship it over the north sea for you to blow up..

  • @KJohansson
    @KJohansson 3 года назад +2

    Bought a pair of these type a few years ago, have them in a box with a fan. Extremely powerful as a "ozone shock" generator have sanitized more than one car with it. Got a sketchy video on the tube about that.

  • @benbaselet2026
    @benbaselet2026 3 года назад +4

    I have one exactly like that, it works fine after I installed it inside a big steel case for a server power supply. Conveniently it already has the fans to run air through.

    • @rolfs2165
      @rolfs2165 3 года назад +1

      Did you install it standing up or lying on its side? And how do you avoid it arcing to the case?

  • @juweinert
    @juweinert 3 года назад +3

    The holding hands don't matter, Clive. There is no person attached anymore, so no worries

  • @dash8brj
    @dash8brj 3 года назад +1

    Circuit looks like a funky style of royer oscillator, redesigned to work off rectified mains. They are quite powerful circuits. :)

  • @hullinstruments
    @hullinstruments 3 года назад +3

    Would love to see a working one of these that is actually incorporated into a finished project. Be great if you build something like that

  • @Darieee
    @Darieee 3 года назад +4

    I have a video with a 12v one of these - you can easily modulate its output with the voltage, .. ended up at 10v for a super minimal output level

  • @mysock351C
    @mysock351C 3 года назад +1

    The conductive coating is probably metalization. Typically it will be molybdenum and some other metals to form an alloy that can then be deposited on the ceramic.

  • @twocvbloke
    @twocvbloke 3 года назад +29

    That thing sounds like walking under supergrid pylons on a foggy morning, just loud scary buzzing!!! :S

    • @mysock351C
      @mysock351C 3 года назад +2

      I think the ozone capacity of that thing is probably measured in 100's of cubic feet per minute, and the real question is how long does it take to get to a lethal concentration in a typical room after someone powers it up. And the irony is thats actually not a joke. It probably could kill you after a while. Edit: Puts out 24g/h, which means in a typical room it wont take long to get to a lethal concentration.

    • @mysock351C
      @mysock351C 3 года назад +3

      If I had to guess, its probably a copy of a generator used in either a large HVAC system or some form of industrial process or sterilization unit, which just makes it all that much more terrifying, and desirable to obtain.

    • @Chris-du7hi
      @Chris-du7hi 3 года назад +6

      @@mysock351C If you figure a 3m x 3m x 3m room, roughly 10ft cube, would contain 27m^3 of air. Looks like std air has a density around 1.204kg/m^3 so 32.5kg of air, or 32500g. If we take your 24g / 32500g we get 0.000738, or a concentration of 738ppm!
      The CDC estimates that 50ppm for 60min would be lethal to humans, and the recommended exposure limit for an hour is 1ppm.
      I don't blame Clive for evacuating.

    • @mysock351C
      @mysock351C 3 года назад +2

      @@Chris-du7hi Insane right? Its amazing the number of deadly products that can be ordered off of ebay.

    • @johnnyreb3487
      @johnnyreb3487 3 года назад +2

      @@mysock351C Looking for them right now.

  • @Ni5ei
    @Ni5ei 3 года назад +5

    OMG
    I was laughing out loud when you turned it on
    I swear I could smell the ozone

  • @XtremeKremaTor
    @XtremeKremaTor 3 года назад +1

    I've had the same years ago. Works well in the car

  • @DrakenFireen
    @DrakenFireen 2 года назад +1

    i use the Enclosed fan types for my workshop, i modded mine with 4 units and placed em in a 220mm computer fans 2 at front 2 at back, these do work very well for dirty shops to get the smell out, sadly it does perish my belts and rubber seals of my doors. also these units are built to place into Used cars to "remove" that cigarette smell. keep in note! these units the one you bought has a VERY low life span, one plate lasts only 100 hours tops before they burn out. is why there cheap cause you need to replace em after the time is met.

    • @paolom.6011
      @paolom.6011 2 года назад

      Could you cover any rubber perishables with something before treatment to save them?

    • @DrakenFireen
      @DrakenFireen 2 года назад

      ​@@paolom.6011 to answer that question, ozone O3 is a gas byproduct, so if the object is sealed or wrapped in a airtight bag or non permissible materials it should be fine. its just hard as these things spew alot of this gas and is impossible to cover or remember what objects that can get affected by it prior to use. so far i learnt this too late and alot of my power cables and rubber seals in my machines are damaged cause the treatments. so careful running these if ya can and remove any items that maybe sensitive to the Ozone if ya can if possible

  • @mattmoreira210
    @mattmoreira210 2 года назад +1

    It's a self-oscillating ZCS LLC converter. Very neat!

  • @Skeptic2006
    @Skeptic2006 3 года назад +7

    I've had two of these and one of them was broken from the box. Most terrifying chinese things I've ever had. To be fair one of them did work for a while.

  • @CollectiveSoftware
    @CollectiveSoftware 3 года назад +16

    That thing sounds almost terrifying like a tesla coil spark gap

    • @joshuabest100
      @joshuabest100 3 года назад +4

      Its just the 60hz mains frequency over the microphone in real life you hardly hear it

    • @rushb9388
      @rushb9388 3 года назад +7

      50hz*

    • @joshuabest100
      @joshuabest100 3 года назад +3

      @@rushb9388 thanks

    • @suprlite
      @suprlite 3 года назад

      @@rushb9388 in UK it's 60Hz, whereas mainland europe is mainly 50Hz.

    • @danielhorne6042
      @danielhorne6042 3 года назад +1

      @@suprlite its 50hz not 60 as i live in the uk and measured the mains before it says 50hz lol 100hz through the bench as it doubles when it passes through something its sitting on also known as vibration . n Clive has 50hz as i seen it in most of his videos on the meter . no frustration here just letting ya know . yh u may get 60hz in the uk but i never herd that before

  • @bubba99009
    @bubba99009 3 года назад +2

    Crazy how much power they are putting through it - wonder how long you could run it for before it self destructs? More than 5 mins? Wonder what the power consumption levels off at it was still ramping up when you pulled the plug.

  • @hardwareboy5079
    @hardwareboy5079 3 года назад +1

    nice

  • @esecallum
    @esecallum 3 года назад +1

    Several mechanisms have been suggested for the bactericidal action of ionizers including electrical phenomena, effects of negative and positive ions and electrostatic repulsion. Negative and positive ions have indeed been shown to have bactericidal effects. In addition, since ozone is generated along with ions, these may contribute to the bacterial killing. In this study, we used a newly developed ionizer, which generates a relatively low concentration of ozone, to determine whether its effect on bacterial cells were due to ions or ozone, and, if ions, how the ions exerted their effects.
    Results
    The effect of ions on bacterial killing was compared with that of the ozone produced using an ion trap to remove the ions. The ionizer had the ability to kill the bacteria, and ion capture dramatically reduced its bactericidal effect, indicating that the ozone generated had little or no bactericidal effect under these conditions, and the ions produced were responsible for almost all the bacterial killing. Operation of the ionizer increased the level of 8-oxo-dG, a marker of oxidative DNA damage, and decreased aconitase activity, which is known to be sensitive to ROS. The ionizer further affected the adenylate energy charge of bacterial cells. Removal of the ions with the ion trap greatly reduced all these effects.
    Conclusion
    These results indicate that negative and positive ions generated by the ionizer are responsible for inducing oxidative stress and so reducing bacterial survival.

  • @IlusysSystems
    @IlusysSystems 3 года назад +1

    Black coating is most likely glaze (possibly quartz based) and solder is most likely zinc or even ZAMAK based solder. at these power levels you can get to temperatures that would soften even normal (soda-lime) glass.

  • @GlennHamblin
    @GlennHamblin 3 года назад

    Awesome video my friend!

  • @n2n8sda
    @n2n8sda 3 года назад +2

    I bought the same module about a year and half ago from Amazon for a project (had to return it 3 times too as each one arrived with a busted top ceramic plate) but eventually got one that wasn't cracked. Was only 8 pounds when i bought mine too pre coof... the ceramic plates are very very fragile... any slight bending on the metal backing substrate will crack them as they are bonded on with some thermal type goop. I consider myself sufficiently clued up with electronics and safety to not hurt myself but was actually a little surprised how easy it was to buy such a thing that can easily cause severe harm from a mainstream website. Probably since the coof people have been buying more of these types of things as I've seen these things advertised as antiviral etc? I think you covered it really but they will overheat and die without proper cooling, electrical safety is non existent unless designed into a suitable project, the ozone emission is insane, easily very bad for your respiratory system if you don't know what you are doing.

  • @Dekko-chan
    @Dekko-chan Год назад

    I picked up one of these and i dont like the smell of ozone but it did make my room smell much better

  • @davidadams421
    @davidadams421 3 года назад +1

    Very interesting. Would be good to see that circuit operating in a circuit simulator.

  • @DavidSmith-zx7wz
    @DavidSmith-zx7wz 3 года назад +1

    You amaze me Clive!!

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  3 года назад +1

      In a good or a bad way?

    • @DavidSmith-zx7wz
      @DavidSmith-zx7wz 3 года назад +1

      @@bigclivedotcom In a genius kind of way! I wish I could see circuits the way you do! Thanks for the videos.

  • @hamitinan6422
    @hamitinan6422 3 года назад +2

    15:46
    Compenent
    Diode
    One FR107
    two 1n4148 zener
    six 1n4007
    Transistors
    two mj13009
    and db3 diac

  • @KOTYAR0
    @KOTYAR0 3 года назад +1

    Oh FUCK YEAH, I have 4 of these to plan to build my own o-zone generator from them!
    I work in laundry plant and we bought one 900$ portable ozone generator and one 4000$ ozonating locker to dessinfect all what comes for cleaning, and they all use these!
    My mate hooked one with a compressor and infuses 15 ton of water in his indoor pool with it.
    I NEED to build one of these to start professional washing laundry linen with ozone.
    Very excited for this video!

    • @KOTYAR0
      @KOTYAR0 3 года назад +1

      There are o-zone water infusing machines sold on the market the one I got from American eBay is PureWash

  • @rarbiart
    @rarbiart 3 года назад +1

    i am using this in my bathroom (it's one without a windows) since a year. great thing!

    • @Alexander_l322
      @Alexander_l322 3 года назад

      I have a bathroom with no window too. I may have to get this... what does it do for you?

    • @SG-ps1sq
      @SG-ps1sq 3 года назад +5

      @@Alexander_l322 ozone buildup is poisonous and could kill you.

    • @Alexander_l322
      @Alexander_l322 3 года назад

      @@SG-ps1sq oh okay i didn’t know he was trolling or deleting any comments. So I guess I won’t be using this in my house. I thought it might help get rid of the steam from showering or something.

    • @rarbiart
      @rarbiart 3 года назад

      @@Alexander_l322 As the donald says big dumps... (i have an auto-timer wich triggers it for 30 seconds after the light goes off. the ozone is VERY strong.)

    • @rarbiart
      @rarbiart 3 года назад

      @@SG-ps1sq be assured I am not trolling, it works perfect against odors and potential mold. But as stated, you should wire it that is not operation while somebody is inside. Since there is no daylight it is an easy task: 30s on after the light has been switched off.

  • @frankowalker4662
    @frankowalker4662 3 года назад

    That sounded awsome.

  • @Cornz38
    @Cornz38 3 года назад +3

    Just a warning, ozone is VERY dangerous in even moderatly low concentrations. I use mine to help remove the smell when a rodent has died and i cannot retreive the carcass.

  • @BonkedByAScout
    @BonkedByAScout 3 года назад +5

    What used more power: The Ozone generator or everyone's subwoofers playing that sound back?

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  3 года назад +6

      Technically speaking it would be collective power consumption of the subwoofers.

  • @zh84
    @zh84 3 года назад +4

    It sounds like Flash Gordon's spaceship from the old cinema series.

  • @stevetobias4890
    @stevetobias4890 3 года назад

    Thanks Clive, I am glad you requested a refund for something so dangerous. It should as you said have a case and a fan and of course be packaged so much better than just a box.

  • @dolphinpix
    @dolphinpix 3 года назад +2

    The advert photograph is correct - all that is left of the end user is couple of hands and a pile of ash.

  • @IanPowell1985
    @IanPowell1985 3 года назад

    The photos seems like I am watching a 3d movie. I also did the Christmas light memory hack and it's working perfectly no more flashing.

  • @minusmagis
    @minusmagis 3 года назад +1

    Really nice work, as always :)
    One question, if the circuit is reminescent of those of halogen lamp drivers, and it is self oscillating at high frequencies do you think it would be possible to dim the power via a Leading-Edge Dimmer circuit? Or do you think it would mess up with the self starting oscillation?
    My guess is that it should be possible down to a certain threshold where the circuit would not self start (and I wonder what would happen there, if there would be some kind of damage).
    Cheers!

    • @mattmoreira210
      @mattmoreira210 2 года назад

      I know your question wasn't directed towards me, but I hope you find my answer helpful.
      I'd use a trailing-edge dimmer with that circuit. A leading-edge dimmer would pose additional stress to the circuit's capacitors.

    • @minusmagis
      @minusmagis 2 года назад

      @@mattmoreira210 Hey Matheus, thank you very much. If that is so, do you thing this circuit could be dimmed somehow? Maybe using a simple transformer would be the simplest option right?

  • @mysock351C
    @mysock351C 3 года назад +1

    The worlds most terrifying ozone generator.

  • @nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489
    @nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489 3 года назад

    The product picture is absolute gold. The hands are all that's left. Lol

  • @lostjohnny9000
    @lostjohnny9000 3 года назад +1

    Wonder if you could regulate these with a simple dimmer? The power factor is almost unity and the current isn't high. Maybe a circuit with a simple relay could be used to regulate them too. Might try an build a PWM triac controller if that would work best.

  • @Zardox-The-Heretic-Slayer
    @Zardox-The-Heretic-Slayer 3 года назад +4

    I have adopted the "lazy rectifier" symbol - it's just so much neater than the usual one.

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  3 года назад +3

      It is a lot neater. Laziness has its advantages.

    • @Zardox-The-Heretic-Slayer
      @Zardox-The-Heretic-Slayer 3 года назад +2

      @@bigclivedotcom what makes it even better is that since adopting it, I've never once had to explain what it is so either your channel is so well known in our circles that it's becoming a standard or it's so obvious that it should be a standard - the BC rectifier

    • @MoseyingFan
      @MoseyingFan 3 года назад +1

      The first motto of the engineer: Be lazy!

  • @bluelights2468
    @bluelights2468 3 года назад +1

    Hi clive, i love the content. Please do a teardown with one of those cheap 60 Patterns RGB LED Disco Lights, I am currently waiting for mine in the post and would love to hear what you think

  • @rustblade5021
    @rustblade5021 3 года назад +2

    it is meant to be installed in an air handler plenum

  • @patelnrupesh
    @patelnrupesh 2 года назад

    Thanks for nice information. Is potentiometer possible to set power in this circuit? What can i do for reduce power in this circuit?

  • @ariahjade34
    @ariahjade34 3 года назад

    I love how the screws that hold the plates down are wall screws.

  • @jamesshutchison5297
    @jamesshutchison5297 3 года назад

    Very much appreciate this channel. Suggestion: do yourself a favor and get a METCAL soldering iron. You will never ever be sorry.

  • @NetNeelsie
    @NetNeelsie 2 года назад

    Thank you.

  • @crackedemerald4930
    @crackedemerald4930 3 года назад

    That's amazing, it's so vicious

  • @hamitinan6422
    @hamitinan6422 3 года назад +1

    plates show a condenser effect. As it removed 2 plates, the resonance frequency deteriorated and power consumption increased. If he worked a little more, it would burn. It normally draws power due to 80w. Its approximate frequency is between 15-25 kHz.
    dielectric plates are broken. There was a short circuit and the power continued to increase

    • @jafe.ribeiro
      @jafe.ribeiro Год назад +1

      Why are some ceramic plates soldered at two points and some only at one point?

    • @hamitinan6422
      @hamitinan6422 Год назад +1

      @@jafe.ribeiro Think of plates like capacitors. It connects two parallels in series or different. In this way, it obtains an average value.

  • @johnwinsor672
    @johnwinsor672 2 месяца назад

    There was a famous(?) article in the magazine of the "Institution of Electrical Engineers" back in the 1950s or 1960s (I believe) entitled "The Killing Fields". This article discussed the apparent statistical correlation between instances of cancer among the general population (of the UK) versus the physical routes of high voltage electrical distribution pylons around England. The article expressed the view, not only that ozone was poisonous, but also that it could induce cancer into living organisms.
    I don't know whether or not this view of cancer causation was subsequently confirmed, but I understood that the above-mentioned correlation was an accepted fact. For those wishing to pursue this subject, the original article might be available from the library of the "Institution of Engineering and Technology".

  • @jameswest848
    @jameswest848 3 года назад

    I put one of these in an old PC PSU case with a small 12V PSU to run the fan. It makes a lot of ozone, but it gets so hot I'm worried about leaving it on for more than a minute or two.

  • @hoggif
    @hoggif 3 года назад +2

    Those produce HUGE amount of ozone when new but may not last too long (especially in high ozone level environment). My diy sterilizer cabinet has one that is pretty worn out and does not produce that much ozone. It needs a replacement unit any day (that I have a few).
    Ozone is great for sterilizing stuff like FFP2/FFP3 masks that can be sometimes hard to find or at least very costly. I never knew last year how much FFP2/FFP3 respirators I'd be using in a daily life. For any DIY solution, make sure you know what you're doing. Studies indicate a need for enough dose + humidity. If you put way too much ozone, rubber bands will fall of respirators and the screws will oxidize badly. Don't ask how I know, just debug better your software :)

    • @termivan
      @termivan Год назад

      how long did it last?

    • @hoggif
      @hoggif Год назад

      ​@@termivan The question is how long will it last. My 65 liter cabinet has had one from the beginning of the pandemic and it is still going on well. I've used levels of about 70-150ppm for about 1-2 hours weekly or twice a week. It runs with PID controll and the duty cycle is probably something like 25%. (It just tops up ozone when it is used or decomposes and more at the start of cycle. One with 3 ozone generating plates is overly powerfull for that)
      Plenty of use hours and I have a spare at hand for the day it will fail. The generator is inside cabinet ie. not just generating ozone that is blown away but exposed to ozone all the time.
      It still goes strong but produces less ozone (I'd guess like half) than when it was new. It has taken some very high level cycles though, like way over 2500ppm that already corrodes metals like screq heads visibly. (no way to say how high, I can measure only up to 2500ppm)
      This can give you some idea of what kind of abuse it has taken.

  • @Erik_Swiger
    @Erik_Swiger Месяц назад

    Wish me luck! I found this video while doing research. I have a commercial ozone generator, and it's not working right. It's very simple, and I think it just needs a new capacitor. Problem is, I don't know the specs on it, and the existing capacitor is potted in a black epoxy. I'll test it, and if it fails, tear it apart to attempt to find the numbers.

  • @vingriffin67
    @vingriffin67 3 года назад +1

    The GOOD sellers list these as a replacement plate for the Ozone generators that are in the box with fan and timer. Bad sellers sell them claiming it can be used as it is,which is totally🚫 UNSAFE...!🚫

  • @kasraeskandari9351
    @kasraeskandari9351 3 года назад

    can you please start putting the full part list in the description of you videos.
    what is the watt of those resistor and voltage of 2.2nf and 10nf capacitors?
    number of turns around that ferrite core and wire gage.
    also what is the wire gage of the primary winding of the transformer.
    with these informations we could actually reveres engineer it.
    thanks .

  • @OPENXAIMER
    @OPENXAIMER 3 года назад

    I got the unit with the fan for disinfecting purposes. Its awesome. Besides the virus it makes odours like cigarette smoke smell dissappear in moments

  • @RespawnRestricted
    @RespawnRestricted 3 года назад +2

    Screw electrical standards I have one of them and their powerful as hell

  • @David_11111
    @David_11111 3 года назад +1

    Stunning photos / printing again :) so impressive :)

    • @FizzlNet
      @FizzlNet 3 года назад

      Those prints must cost like 300€/piece in ink

    • @tncorgi92
      @tncorgi92 3 года назад

      @@FizzlNet he uses a printer with large refillable tanks for ink. Buys in bulk, cheaper.