Im a an Engineering Geologist in UK and when we test test drinking water we test for the following: pH, Iron, Manganese, Lead, Zinc, Copper, Calcium Magnesium, Nitrate, Nitrite, Fluoride, Arsenic, Chloride, Ammonia, Selenium, Cadmium, Boron, Aluminium, Chromium, Antimony. As well as Ecoli, Coliforms (a type of bacteria), Enterocci, and TVC’s at 22 and 37 degrees (used as an estimation of amount of bacteria). This would be a comprehensive testing regime for drinking water. You can then compare the values to national drinking water standards. Each country has slightly different standards, but much of Europe is similar.
Manganese is important. If you constantly drink water with high manganese your IQ will be dropping. Also if close by there are dry toilets and no sewage filtration, it gets in the ground and the nearby water sources contain ammonium ions in the water.
Water treatment operator here safest way to go is get a well drilled, get a pressure tank and get a well pump powered by solar panels and a battery. Only way you will have guaranteed safe drinking water. Surface water is not worth it financially for a single homestead. With a well you are going to run it through a softener it will clean out most heavy metal contamination.
11:00 Well the odds that your water contains no nitrate is almost none. Also a very important one is the coliform one that only your lab work has. Coliform bacteria means there is fecal matter in your water.
Water treatment and safe water are no joke. I seriously recommend you to go mix mode: have regular water for main supply, and see if eventually you might be able to go off grid. It’s a plain health hazard, and I don’t see the need of it. Watering gardens? Ok. Cleaning? Ok bathing? Ok. But not for consumption. Ameba, bacteria, protozoo…
Considering how much it rains there, I would be curious to see you make a simple water collection system & see if that's safe to drink (as Richard suggested). It might be easier to manage than your existing water sources specially since you can set it up at base camp rather than having to put up pipes & pumps to get the water to where you need it.
In our area the water is mostly perfect because it is drilled down about 450' (we are up on a ridge) through limestone, sandstone, and sand. A few houses though have excessive copper - very excessive. A friend of ours's daughter was actually treated for copper toxicity, and they had to drill a new well. A bit south of us they have problems with lead, and to the north there are problems with iron. It's all in the geology...
A bore hole for water is by far not certain that it will need no filtering. In fact it could be unsuitable at all. Depending on the area even a very deep borehole could produce water with natural high concentrations of unwanted things like lead for example. Ppl tend to see lead and some other things as a pure man made polution but some things are very common in nature. You can find many folks in the USA have their adventure of getting a borehole documented online. Most end well but not all of them. Some are way far from civilisation and some are 800 meters deep but those conditions are no guarantee. Even for a borehole do the tests!
Build a water pump driven by a water wheel(I don't know if a ram pump is suitable to be installed on that location), make a gravity filtration system out of barbecue wood coal, crushed stones and sand, add a cloth filter afterwards just to be out of impurities and test the water again. If that's not drinkable, you should connect to the local water system.
Get water from the creek,filter and put in a tank for storage.Dependind off the volume off water,add chlorine to kill bacteria or add a UV light.Simple and fast.
It's quite a bit different here in the US. We have a well. It is 725 feet deep because we live high in the Ozark Mountains. Our pump for our well is placed at 650 feet to keep from pulling sediment and gravel into our water filtration system during extreme flooding events. We have a 3 stage (filter), UV sterilization system on our water. Our water is tested, by us, 3 times annually at our University's College extension board to get the most comprehensive testing possible. Our water is completely potable (good for drinking) however, we did notice we have non-fecal E.coli present in minute PPMs (parts per million) when we have extreme flooding. Despite it being non-fecal, we still felt the need to UV filter our water for safety. Best of luck with everything. The progress is amazing.
We enjoy watching your progress and thanks for this helpful video , we have been wanting to test our well water for ages ,might get round to doing it this year 😀
Very nice that the test kit comes with a Doob Tube. A DIY Berkey water filter system will provide you safe drinking water for now and is cheap to fabricate with ceramic filters off of Amazon.
You might want to consider taking the water from the source rather than the top of the pond. Runoff and the surrounding land will contaminate the topwater, but the spring at the bottom should be pure. Also, the creek contaminants will depend on the lands the creek runs through before they get to your test area. So, pasture land will contain much more animal urine and feces than the ponds. Ecoli and some of the bio results are probably the most important since you are not in an industrial area.
@@MooKau_ I think you misunderstand me, Amigo. What I meant was that he should get a sample from the bottom of the pond where the water leaving the spring keeps it clean. Runoff is contaminated with animal feces, oils from agriculture, pesticides, and other contaminants. Even the bottled "spring" water you drink, comes from a pipe at the bottom of the spring to get the cleanest sample. Hope that makes my post clear. :)
@@kurteibell2885 ah.. i getcha! So different zones of the water will have different results. If they where planning on putting a hose in the water to pump out, it would be drawning water from teh bottom. If they where just gunna grab a bucket a couple of times a day, that water drawn would be from the top :D
highway noise ideas, put houses underground/in cliff sides if available/basements and then make the outside areas with lots of trees/gardens/flowers/water features.
I have 3 water sources. Draining gallery(a horizontal well dug into the mountainside with a very low gradient), borehole and rain collection(20m3 underground concrete reservoir) I drink the rain water and use the rest for irrigation.
So, I'm new to the series, and I'm not caught up quite yet. Have you ever thought about using livestock at the kamp?? I've noticed a lot of things going on that they could help with. Least of which being free organic fertilizer😁 LOVE your channel boss, keep up the good work!
We did a well ie bore hole and added a spin down filter that takes out the big stuff, and very easy to clean once a week, it preserves the more expensive filters, then a finer filter and then a filter with these water softening crystals in. Polyphosphates I think. Then at the kitchen sink I fitted a carbon filter that removes odour. All the water sold in the Philippines is dead water. Reverse osmosis or distilled and there’s zero minerals in it. Btw. Try making kefir water. Tasty and fizzy and healthy. You need good healthy water.
Nice, another update! Awesome job as always. Clear and simple to understand. One question that occurred to me is if the lab where you had the tests done could help in telling which kinds of filters those particular kinds of water would require to become drinkable. Have you asked them? And a suggestion/request: could you edit the title of these videos to add the name of the project? Like "Project Kamp #19 DIY VS Laboratory drinking water tests" or "Project Kamp Update #19 DIY VS Laboratory drinking water tests", it would look better for sharing in social media.
@@palava8500 Kliemannsland and Projekt Kamp would be a strange but surely very entertaining combination. The Dutch team could easily visit them and learn from their approach, the farm is located near Hamburg. It is a German RUclips channel that is similar to Project Kamp in some ways, but also more focused on entertainment and building crazy stuff.
This approach is used at the Hockerton Housing Project in the UK. More info here on their reed beds. I believe Romans used the same system as well. www.hockertonhousingproject.org.uk/water-systems/reed-beds/
Constructed wetlands or helofytenfilters are not meant to produce drinking water. And using them without aditional processing is dangerous. This filter type is useful to recycle your waste water for a second use like toilet flushing or when the laws in the country allows it to water gardens. Other useful step is to clean waste water enough to be able to put it back in nature like back in a river
Borehole with a solar submersible pump but you need to analyse the water. groundwater contamination is a issue specially in rural areas. I suggest to use a water filtration system composed with a 20, 10, 5 micron filters and then a ceramic and a uv lamp. always can use rainwater harvesting but the summer months without rain will put a long storage period and then some chlorine will be needed what is not the best..I use a water borehole with a filtration system in my off grid farm and never got issues. keep going!
It’s been so Intresting watching this venture come together ❤ you all are doing such a great job with everything and the people all seem so nice. What a lovely way to live. This was Such a interesting video. Now you know what’s in your water you can make another video about filtering it with different filters to see what’s best . I think reverse osmosis filters are the ones that strip everything out of the water so you can drink it. Conveniently Your ph is spot on for growing a certain herb that I can’t remember the name of. Can’t wait to see the kamp evolve over the next few years. Take care all and much love from the uk 🇬🇧
Since it looks like it rains quite a lot there, have you considered rainwater collection? If you build a collector roof like the one Handeeman built in the desert, you may catch a lot of clean (or really easy to filter) rainwater, in a pretty cheap way. Regards
@@Falney Yikes! No, persistent toxins like heavy metals and PCBs are far more of a threat than kidney stones caused by hard water. What you test for depends heavily on your location. I don’t know about this spot in Portugal, but there are places in Europe that are heavily contaminated with industrial pollutants. If that’s the case here, it’s definitely NOT safe to drink, even for a short time. And the way you find that out is through testing.
@@twestgard2 it really depends on where the rain falls as to whether there are long term health problems with drinking it as well. In an industrial area it is likely to carry traces of heavy metals and such. Out in the country though, that is less likely.
The other one that needs doing is biological testing, for bacteria. The easiest one to do is to look for faecal coliforms, which are the common bacteria in the back end of your gut. Sewage/dung indicators, basically. What you do is pull a specified amount of water through a membrane filter using a high vacuum, then place that onto an agar mix called McConkey's Agar. This only grows faecal coliform bacteria, so if you see colonies you've got indications that either animal dung or human sewage is contaminating the water. One colony forms per single bacterium in the sample, so it is a pretty sensitive test. Be careful because some sewage treatment systems use UV light and/or chemicals to reduce the faecal coliform levels; this is basically gaming the test system so the effluent from a sewage "treatment" plant looks safe, because you're killing the easily killed indicator species, but isn't safe because the tougher actual nasties mostly get through. Look for high levels of nitrates and phosphates as well, as these are indicators of contamination of all sorts. A flame photometer is best for detecting metal contaminants rather than a test kit; you're looking for lead, iron, arsenic and a few minor radioactives here.
I've seen a few microhydro projects on RUclips, I've suggested it also in a previous video. I'm also thinking they need to possibly build a couple of weirs to control the flow.
If you want to pump the water up from the creek to uphill you can use a hydraulic ram pump. It works on hydraulic pressure from the height difference in the creek. Check it out on RUclips it is a fascinating piece of hydraulic engineering.
Since you have three sources of water it's bonkers to drill a bore hole! Bore hole water is full of heavy metals and it may lower the natural water table. Also, you need permission and a license. The swamp water has all that green stuff on top which is a good sign of clean water. I would get a filter and be thankful you have so much water on your land. Good luck.
the filter would not get rid of the biological contaminants.... he had an awful lot of e. coli and CFUs (colony forming units) on his report. they would need to add chemicals or boil the water also. unfortunately this is not an easy question to answer... even a drilled well would likely need some form of treatment
a drilled well may not give you the proper water quality. For the metals (lead and copper etc), the samples must be acidified prior to analysis. If you would like, I can review the results for you as I do water quality as part of my environmental practice. The other tests that you showed were biological tests which are more important as the bugs in the water will make you sick immediately, where metals and nitrates/nitrites will poison you slowly (at least in the concentrations you briefly showed). So a boil water advisory is definitely the case. And the iron and hardness means you won't get much bubbles in your bath LOL. But it there's a lot of limestone and dolostone in the bedrock, you're water is going to be hard anyway. So, you'll need a UV filter to kill the bugs, a mechanical filter for the suspended solids and water softener (ion exchanger) to make your water more user friendly for baths and washing. unfortunately, not as simple answer.... the answer is: it depends
I saw the pee test you did.... CONGRATULATIONS ON THE BABY! (joke) Yeah i know im 3 months late in this reply. Collecting water from rooftops or from a tarp with a middle low point and hole in it may work for the two of you for a while, giving how much it rains there. A simple pump from any of those spots to the garden can keep it green and happy, as well as giving you something to put out fires that hopefully never happen.
If you need to get a good filter it's a berkeley berkeley water filter you pour the water in the top and comes out of the bottom and it's stainless steel and it used to got changeable filters
U need a Filter anyway. Save this money for something more needed...to Make a hole with a pump is around 5000.- and you need to Test that wather as well. Better you strait invest in a nice filtering system because you got a lot of wather on that land. I have a pump but its not drinkable. Keep up the great work
hi guys, following project camp with water update testing,just fyi: arsenicum is one of the critical compound for testing and info. has got a separate filter for it available in market.
Bacteria and blood born viruses are your biggest concern from surface water supplies. i would be very careful. if you did not grow up on that type of water and mainly raised on municipality drinking water you may not be conditioned for it. Well water is the safest and definitely have a lab test all of your sources. Animal and industrial waste is invisible most of the time and could be quite Deadly . An Ultra-violet filter system could work best, but you need a dependable power supply.
2:30 in. My guess the creek is the most likely to be safe. I bet if you left those jars in the window for a couple weeks you would start to see creepy things growing in them. I can't remember the species names :/ so Creepy things will do.
the tests may not be free in Portugal. It is region specific. For instance, in Ontario Canada, the biological tests are free, but the tests for dissolved metals are not.
What are the units on “germs”? I see some of those as >100. That implies that germs are high enough so there is no reason to measure. What do the local water testers say is an acceptable number. I’d go with a borehole but put it in an area with the ground surface way above any standing or flowing water so it’s not contaminated during rain storms.
Isn't that lake closer to that of a pond instead? Unless you're counting the muck sitting on top causing an aphotic zone which technically turns it into a "lake".
As the "president" of another Dutch organization that is in the planning to do something similar to what you guys are doing I am a bit taken aback by this style of planning. We are 3-5 years away from moving to the plot and already there are things i feel we have taken care of that are still journeys of discovery to you. It might be a confirmation bias of sorts but it feels like there were rather large holes in your preparation of the land and your knowledge of it. Things like a permaculture foodforest setup would seem to work perfectly with the sustainability you are after and yet i see none of its lessons applied, there seems a lack of knowledge of landmanagement and horticulture. I see trees and a small garden being planted but i see no support structures for their growth, i either missed it or there were no tests of the soil. Plants of types that should not be mixed togethere were planted, and at distances and locations that make maintaining them much, much more work. There seems no layout plan for the land, or I missed it but that should have been one of the first steps if sustainability was a goal. With these water tests i feel a distinct lack of understanding of what these results mean, what the individual values mean or how one would deal with them either seperately or as a whole. I see better tips in the comments than i see applied and as a person mixed in with the costs etc of something similar to project kamp i would have fired people 2 times over for the sheer amount of extra inflicted costs as a result of inadequate planning, especially if i then see better options in the comments but would lack the understanding to seperate which ones would work best for me. The admiration for your project and what you are attempting is incredible, but it feels like this project might succeed in spite of its planning instead of because of it. As one of the main researchers and planners for our sustainable camp/plot/ commune/whatever you would call it, I would love to have some more insight into your long term planning in one of these videos, it could give a lot of insight, allow you to crowdsource some solutions and show others a version of a plan to do something similar. All in all, lekker bezig pik. Jij hebt een stuk land in Portugal en leeft de droom das 10 stappen verder dan 99% van mensen die dit willen komen. Keep inspiring
Good points. Other side of the coin is that in 3-5 years they will have a lot of hands on experience of the land they aquired. Plants can be moved. Containers can be moved. They have not done anything permanent yet. In the meantime they can work the land and figure it out step by step. Hopefully they will strike a good balance between planning ahead yet executing now. Good luck with your project!
beside the more traditional filters for the water, you should also consider an active carbon filter... regardless the water source .. In Denmark it is not mandatory to filter even deep bor wells with active carbon, cus of all the pesticides that was legal like 50 years ago, have now reached the otherwise clean water layers deep in the ground. Sad but facts... And yes active carbon filtering is one of the more expensive filters ... :( but it removes most chemicals ... especial IF you need "chlorine disinfection" an active carbon filter removed the nasty chlor taste and smell (cus it removes the chlor)
It''s tests only for your tap water that was already been cleaned from various microorganisms and dangerous microbes by filtering. If you want to drink this water you just need to boil it.
Comparing the tests is also not a useful thing due to the specific sensitivity of different tests. Some have 0 to 10, 10 to 20, 20 to 50, etc so if you have 2.2mg it will show 0 on the strip
Als je bij het "moeras" de rand een beetje opruimt en gras zaait en dan uiteraard ook grasmaaien als het gegroeid is dan kan je de braam "verslaan" Maaien met een grasmaaier en niet een bosmaaier ofzo.
The standing water was probably a bit useless to test. How far is the spring of that stream? Because that would be the best start for collecting water for further processing (filters + chlorine (?), and also have the water tested regularly and change the process accordingly), borehole is also a possibility - but also do tests for those regularly and process it if necessary. Good point for future spots: choose a spot with a spring.
Since it rains so much, couldn’t you set up a rainwater capture system, store some and run through a filtration system………easy for me to say………..I know NOTHING 🤣😂
As far as drinking water goes. The first thing you need is a P R name change for the swamp.
I quite like 'Swamp', it has a certain 'Jedi mind trick' ring to it :)
"Naturepure Water" (Artisanally extracted from freshwater wetlands and hand crafted for your enjoyment)
@@MaxwellGouldEsq or Shrek...
agreed. call it "micro wetlands biome" or some other buzzy name like that XD
Im a an Engineering Geologist in UK and when we test test drinking water we test for the following: pH, Iron, Manganese, Lead, Zinc, Copper, Calcium Magnesium, Nitrate, Nitrite, Fluoride, Arsenic, Chloride, Ammonia, Selenium, Cadmium, Boron, Aluminium, Chromium, Antimony. As well as Ecoli, Coliforms (a type of bacteria), Enterocci, and TVC’s at 22 and 37 degrees (used as an estimation of amount of bacteria). This would be a comprehensive testing regime for drinking water. You can then compare the values to national drinking water standards. Each country has slightly different standards, but much of Europe is similar.
Manganese is important. If you constantly drink water with high manganese your IQ will be dropping.
Also if close by there are dry toilets and no sewage filtration, it gets in the ground and the nearby water sources contain ammonium ions in the water.
Water treatment operator here safest way to go is get a well drilled, get a pressure tank and get a well pump powered by solar panels and a battery. Only way you will have guaranteed safe drinking water. Surface water is not worth it financially for a single homestead. With a well you are going to run it through a softener it will clean out most heavy metal contamination.
11:00 Well the odds that your water contains no nitrate is almost none. Also a very important one is the coliform one that only your lab work has. Coliform bacteria means there is fecal matter in your water.
Water treatment and safe water are no joke. I seriously recommend you to go mix mode: have regular water for main supply, and see if eventually you might be able to go off grid. It’s a plain health hazard, and I don’t see the need of it.
Watering gardens? Ok. Cleaning? Ok bathing? Ok. But not for consumption. Ameba, bacteria, protozoo…
And too much manganese lowers your IQ.
Considering how much it rains there, I would be curious to see you make a simple water collection system & see if that's safe to drink (as Richard suggested).
It might be easier to manage than your existing water sources specially since you can set it up at base camp rather than having to put up pipes & pumps to get the water to where you need it.
Isn't rain water very polluted? Estrogen, aircraft pollution, microplastics, etc?
It would have been interesting to see how the town water you were getting rated in all 3 tests.
I noticed that growing on the surface of the lake and swamp there is duckweed growing which is a high protein feed for chickens.
Makes good fish food for Tilapia etc. too.
In our area the water is mostly perfect because it is drilled down about 450' (we are up on a ridge) through limestone, sandstone, and sand. A few houses though have excessive copper - very excessive. A friend of ours's daughter was actually treated for copper toxicity, and they had to drill a new well. A bit south of us they have problems with lead, and to the north there are problems with iron. It's all in the geology...
A bore hole for water is by far not certain that it will need no filtering. In fact it could be unsuitable at all. Depending on the area even a very deep borehole could produce water with natural high concentrations of unwanted things like lead for example. Ppl tend to see lead and some other things as a pure man made polution but some things are very common in nature. You can find many folks in the USA have their adventure of getting a borehole documented online. Most end well but not all of them. Some are way far from civilisation and some are 800 meters deep but those conditions are no guarantee. Even for a borehole do the tests!
Please no!
A drilled well would probably get rid of the E.Coli though.
Build a water pump driven by a water wheel(I don't know if a ram pump is suitable to be installed on that location), make a gravity filtration system out of barbecue wood coal, crushed stones and sand, add a cloth filter afterwards just to be out of impurities and test the water again. If that's not drinkable, you should connect to the local water system.
Get water from the creek,filter and put in a tank for storage.Dependind off the volume off water,add chlorine to kill bacteria or add a UV light.Simple and fast.
It's quite a bit different here in the US. We have a well. It is 725 feet deep because we live high in the Ozark Mountains. Our pump for our well is placed at 650 feet to keep from pulling sediment and gravel into our water filtration system during extreme flooding events. We have a 3 stage (filter), UV sterilization system on our water. Our water is tested, by us, 3 times annually at our University's College extension board to get the most comprehensive testing possible. Our water is completely potable (good for drinking) however, we did notice we have non-fecal E.coli present in minute PPMs (parts per million) when we have extreme flooding. Despite it being non-fecal, we still felt the need to UV filter our water for safety.
Best of luck with everything. The progress is amazing.
you should have had the water you get from the tap in town tested, just as a comparison with your water.
Exactly!
We enjoy watching your progress and thanks for this helpful video , we have been wanting to test our well water for ages ,might get round to doing it this year 😀
Very nice that the test kit comes with a Doob Tube.
A DIY Berkey water filter system will provide you safe drinking water for now and is cheap to fabricate with ceramic filters off of Amazon.
You might want to consider taking the water from the source rather than the top of the pond. Runoff and the surrounding land will contaminate the topwater, but the spring at the bottom should be pure. Also, the creek contaminants will depend on the lands the creek runs through before they get to your test area. So, pasture land will contain much more animal urine and feces than the ponds. Ecoli and some of the bio results are probably the most important since you are not in an industrial area.
I guess he selected that spot as it was the easiest to get to, and most likely the spot where he'd be filling containers to take to the kitchen from.
@@MooKau_ I think you misunderstand me, Amigo. What I meant was that he should get a sample from the bottom of the pond where the water leaving the spring keeps it clean. Runoff is contaminated with animal feces, oils from agriculture, pesticides, and other contaminants. Even the bottled "spring" water you drink, comes from a pipe at the bottom of the spring to get the cleanest sample. Hope that makes my post clear. :)
@@kurteibell2885 ah.. i getcha!
So different zones of the water will have different results.
If they where planning on putting a hose in the water to pump out, it would be drawning water from teh bottom.
If they where just gunna grab a bucket a couple of times a day, that water drawn would be from the top :D
There are those rain water catch-and-filter which might be a good option.
Heck yeah, it rains alot so catch and store it for drinking at least. I was bought up on underground concrete tanks.
OSE even has existing CAD and whatnot for a system like this:
wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Rainwater_Catchment
Interesting. I found the creek water super nice, would still drink it 🤷🏽♀️😁
Your intestines wouldnt tho hahaha
there is something about you that is incredibly likeable! i can see this channel doing big things, keep up the good work!
This made me incredibly thirsty watching this. This water looks beautiful
highway noise ideas, put houses underground/in cliff sides if available/basements and then make the outside areas with lots of trees/gardens/flowers/water features.
I have 3 water sources. Draining gallery(a horizontal well dug into the mountainside with a very low gradient), borehole and rain collection(20m3 underground concrete reservoir)
I drink the rain water and use the rest for irrigation.
So, I'm new to the series, and I'm not caught up quite yet. Have you ever thought about using livestock at the kamp?? I've noticed a lot of things going on that they could help with. Least of which being free organic fertilizer😁 LOVE your channel boss, keep up the good work!
We did a well ie bore hole and added a spin down filter that takes out the big stuff, and very easy to clean once a week, it preserves the more expensive filters, then a finer filter and then a filter with these water softening crystals in. Polyphosphates I think. Then at the kitchen sink I fitted a carbon filter that removes odour.
All the water sold in the Philippines is dead water. Reverse osmosis or distilled and there’s zero minerals in it.
Btw. Try making kefir water. Tasty and fizzy and healthy. You need good healthy water.
Thank you for the video, again very informal, as we are in the same situation. Love the pee testing :))
Nice, another update! Awesome job as always. Clear and simple to understand. One question that occurred to me is if the lab where you had the tests done could help in telling which kinds of filters those particular kinds of water would require to become drinkable. Have you asked them?
And a suggestion/request: could you edit the title of these videos to add the name of the project? Like "Project Kamp #19 DIY VS Laboratory drinking water tests" or "Project Kamp Update #19 DIY VS Laboratory drinking water tests", it would look better for sharing in social media.
you might want to build a constructed wetland (dutch: helofytenfilter, german: pflanzenkläranlage) for filtering.
Yeah. They could contact Kliemansland. They had build one for their pond. Maybe they could even cooperate.
@@palava8500 Kliemannsland and Projekt Kamp would be a strange but surely very entertaining combination. The Dutch team could easily visit them and learn from their approach, the farm is located near Hamburg. It is a German RUclips channel that is similar to Project Kamp in some ways, but also more focused on entertainment and building crazy stuff.
This approach is used at the Hockerton Housing Project in the UK.
More info here on their reed beds. I believe Romans used the same system as well.
www.hockertonhousingproject.org.uk/water-systems/reed-beds/
Constructed wetlands or helofytenfilters are not meant to produce drinking water. And using them without aditional processing is dangerous. This filter type is useful to recycle your waste water for a second use like toilet flushing or when the laws in the country allows it to water gardens. Other useful step is to clean waste water enough to be able to put it back in nature like back in a river
Borehole with a solar submersible pump but you need to analyse the water. groundwater contamination is a issue specially in rural areas. I suggest to use a water filtration system composed with a 20, 10, 5 micron filters and then a ceramic and a uv lamp. always can use rainwater harvesting but the summer months without rain will put a long storage period and then some chlorine will be needed what is not the best..I use a water borehole with a filtration system in my off grid farm and never got issues. keep going!
It’s been so Intresting watching this venture come together ❤ you all are doing such a great job with everything and the people all seem so nice. What a lovely way to live. This was Such a interesting video. Now you know what’s in your water you can make another video about filtering it with different filters to see what’s best . I think reverse osmosis filters are the ones that strip everything out of the water so you can drink it. Conveniently Your ph is spot on for growing a certain herb that I can’t remember the name of. Can’t wait to see the kamp evolve over the next few years. Take care all and much love from the uk 🇬🇧
Paul stamets the mushroom man designed a mushroom filter bed using the mycelium. Can use it for water or sewage.
How much was the Laboratory Test in comparism? Thanks for the informatory Video! I really enjoy watching your Progress
12:00 You may be able to drink it if you use some kind of UV filtration system. The big problem is the bacterial content.
You should rainwater collect. It is far cleaner and better overall, than anything coming out of the ground, in addition to being far more sustainable.
Dip the strips in the water, but do not tap off the extra water. Lay them horizontally and leave for the recommended number of seconds before reading.
Since it looks like it rains quite a lot there, have you considered rainwater collection? If you build a collector roof like the one Handeeman built in the desert, you may catch a lot of clean (or really easy to filter) rainwater, in a pretty cheap way. Regards
Rain water would still need filtering. It's pretty filthy stuff ngl.
@@Falney right, it collects particulates in the air on its way to the ground. Excellent for irrigation but not so much for drinking and cooking.
@@twestgard2 its OK to drink short term like when camping if boiled. But I wouldn't want the risk of having to pee out miniature gravel.
@@Falney Yikes! No, persistent toxins like heavy metals and PCBs are far more of a threat than kidney stones caused by hard water.
What you test for depends heavily on your location. I don’t know about this spot in Portugal, but there are places in Europe that are heavily contaminated with industrial pollutants. If that’s the case here, it’s definitely NOT safe to drink, even for a short time. And the way you find that out is through testing.
@@twestgard2 it really depends on where the rain falls as to whether there are long term health problems with drinking it as well. In an industrial area it is likely to carry traces of heavy metals and such. Out in the country though, that is less likely.
😂(9:06) And Mattie went swimming in it. 😢
Keep up the good work. I'm excited to see how things progress!!!
I love the welcoming "hey" (hej?!) at the beginning of every video 🙂
The other one that needs doing is biological testing, for bacteria. The easiest one to do is to look for faecal coliforms, which are the common bacteria in the back end of your gut. Sewage/dung indicators, basically. What you do is pull a specified amount of water through a membrane filter using a high vacuum, then place that onto an agar mix called McConkey's Agar. This only grows faecal coliform bacteria, so if you see colonies you've got indications that either animal dung or human sewage is contaminating the water. One colony forms per single bacterium in the sample, so it is a pretty sensitive test.
Be careful because some sewage treatment systems use UV light and/or chemicals to reduce the faecal coliform levels; this is basically gaming the test system so the effluent from a sewage "treatment" plant looks safe, because you're killing the easily killed indicator species, but isn't safe because the tougher actual nasties mostly get through. Look for high levels of nitrates and phosphates as well, as these are indicators of contamination of all sorts.
A flame photometer is best for detecting metal contaminants rather than a test kit; you're looking for lead, iron, arsenic and a few minor radioactives here.
Love your humor.
Have you considered microhydropower from the creek?
Turbulent Hydro comes to my mind
I've seen a few microhydro projects on RUclips, I've suggested it also in a previous video. I'm also thinking they need to possibly build a couple of weirs to control the flow.
Hoverboard motor hydro generator shall be an idea to try out.
I like your first principles approach towards things
seeing as you get so much rain would rain water catchment not be ideal and probably much cheaper than a bore ?
If you want to pump the water up from the creek to uphill you can use a hydraulic ram pump. It works on hydraulic pressure from the height difference in the creek. Check it out on RUclips it is a fascinating piece of hydraulic engineering.
Since you have three sources of water it's bonkers to drill a bore hole! Bore hole water is full of heavy metals and it may lower the natural water table. Also, you need permission and a license. The swamp water has all that green stuff on top which is a good sign of clean water. I would get a filter and be thankful you have so much water on your land. Good luck.
the filter would not get rid of the biological contaminants.... he had an awful lot of e. coli and CFUs (colony forming units) on his report. they would need to add chemicals or boil the water also. unfortunately this is not an easy question to answer... even a drilled well would likely need some form of treatment
@@gusser2121 it had 0 e coli. It did have enterococcus. regardless he would be nuts to drink stagnant runoff water.
can you also do a video about your daily meals?
Bro that’s a pond... not a lake... ha ha ha just messing with ya, keep the videos coming 🤙🏽
a drilled well may not give you the proper water quality. For the metals (lead and copper etc), the samples must be acidified prior to analysis. If you would like, I can review the results for you as I do water quality as part of my environmental practice. The other tests that you showed were biological tests which are more important as the bugs in the water will make you sick immediately, where metals and nitrates/nitrites will poison you slowly (at least in the concentrations you briefly showed). So a boil water advisory is definitely the case. And the iron and hardness means you won't get much bubbles in your bath LOL. But it there's a lot of limestone and dolostone in the bedrock, you're water is going to be hard anyway. So, you'll need a UV filter to kill the bugs, a mechanical filter for the suspended solids and water softener (ion exchanger) to make your water more user friendly for baths and washing. unfortunately, not as simple answer.... the answer is: it depends
How about catching rain water?
rainwater is not clean enough for drinking!
I saw the pee test you did.... CONGRATULATIONS ON THE BABY!
(joke)
Yeah i know im 3 months late in this reply.
Collecting water from rooftops or from a tarp with a middle low point and hole in it may work for the two of you for a while, giving how much it rains there. A simple pump from any of those spots to the garden can keep it green and happy, as well as giving you something to put out fires that hopefully never happen.
.... To put in your joint 🤣
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If you need to get a good filter it's a berkeley berkeley water filter you pour the water in the top and comes out of the bottom and it's stainless steel and it used to got changeable filters
U need a Filter anyway. Save this money for something more needed...to Make a hole with a pump is around 5000.- and you need to Test that wather as well. Better you strait invest in a nice filtering system because you got a lot of wather on that land. I have a pump but its not drinkable. Keep up the great work
hi guys, following project camp with water update testing,just fyi: arsenicum is one of the critical compound for testing and info. has got a separate filter for it available in market.
The Swamp Pee episode I've been waiting for 😂
i like the kit with the tube for a joint lol
Bacteria and blood born viruses are your biggest concern from surface water supplies. i would be very careful. if you did not grow up on that type of water and mainly raised on municipality drinking water you may not be conditioned for it. Well water is the safest and definitely have a lab test all of your sources. Animal and industrial waste is invisible most of the time and could be quite Deadly . An Ultra-violet filter system could work best, but you need a dependable power supply.
Land to house channel. Ram pump from the creek!
Strange you would think a spring would be fresh water
Imma just drink the creek water no test
2:30 in. My guess the creek is the most likely to be safe. I bet if you left those jars in the window for a couple weeks you would start to see creepy things growing in them. I can't remember the species names :/ so Creepy things will do.
@Agapimo I only said it had the best chance, not that it was safe.
These test are not the one for “drinkable water”.You should be able to get free water test , check you local water authority….
the tests may not be free in Portugal. It is region specific. For instance, in Ontario Canada, the biological tests are free, but the tests for dissolved metals are not.
Sending It for testing is the safest choice. Your biggest concern should be parasites and pesticides.
Nice one. Water is life!
What are the units on “germs”? I see some of those as >100. That implies that germs are high enough so there is no reason to measure. What do the local water testers say is an acceptable number.
I’d go with a borehole but put it in an area with the ground surface way above any standing or flowing water so it’s not contaminated during rain storms.
I would dig a hole beneeth the lake and take out the water there ✌🏼
That could very well result in the water draining out of the lake and disappearing.
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Berkey filter for your drinking water, we wouldn't be without ours
Isn't that lake closer to that of a pond instead? Unless you're counting the muck sitting on top causing an aphotic zone which technically turns it into a "lake".
As the "president" of another Dutch organization that is in the planning to do something similar to what you guys are doing I am a bit taken aback by this style of planning.
We are 3-5 years away from moving to the plot and already there are things i feel we have taken care of that are still journeys of discovery to you.
It might be a confirmation bias of sorts but it feels like there were rather large holes in your preparation of the land and your knowledge of it.
Things like a permaculture foodforest setup would seem to work perfectly with the sustainability you are after and yet i see none of its lessons applied, there seems a lack of knowledge of landmanagement and horticulture. I see trees and a small garden being planted but i see no support structures for their growth, i either missed it or there were no tests of the soil. Plants of types that should not be mixed togethere were planted, and at distances and locations that make maintaining them much, much more work. There seems no layout plan for the land, or I missed it but that should have been one of the first steps if sustainability was a goal.
With these water tests i feel a distinct lack of understanding of what these results mean, what the individual values mean or how one would deal with them either seperately or as a whole.
I see better tips in the comments than i see applied and as a person mixed in with the costs etc of something similar to project kamp i would have fired people 2 times over for the sheer amount of extra inflicted costs as a result of inadequate planning, especially if i then see better options in the comments but would lack the understanding to seperate which ones would work best for me.
The admiration for your project and what you are attempting is incredible, but it feels like this project might succeed in spite of its planning instead of because of it.
As one of the main researchers and planners for our sustainable camp/plot/ commune/whatever you would call it, I would love to have some more insight into your long term planning in one of these videos, it could give a lot of insight, allow you to crowdsource some solutions and show others a version of a plan to do something similar.
All in all, lekker bezig pik. Jij hebt een stuk land in Portugal en leeft de droom das 10 stappen verder dan 99% van mensen die dit willen komen.
Keep inspiring
I agree with this constructive criticism. Measure twice, cut once!
Good points. Other side of the coin is that in 3-5 years they will have a lot of hands on experience of the land they aquired. Plants can be moved. Containers can be moved. They have not done anything permanent yet. In the meantime they can work the land and figure it out step by step. Hopefully they will strike a good balance between planning ahead yet executing now. Good luck with your project!
beside the more traditional filters for the water, you should also consider an active carbon filter... regardless the water source .. In Denmark it is not mandatory to filter even deep bor wells with active carbon, cus of all the pesticides that was legal like 50 years ago, have now reached the otherwise clean water layers deep in the ground. Sad but facts... And yes active carbon filtering is one of the more expensive filters ... :( but it removes most chemicals ... especial IF you need "chlorine disinfection" an active carbon filter removed the nasty chlor taste and smell (cus it removes the chlor)
I would BOIL IT and use a Carbon FILTER and even then I would pick a "volunteer" to test drinkability of the water
Nice Video 👍
This is like a chemistry GCSE question. Anyone who passed should know nearly everything with water and somehow none of you do hahahahhaha
It might be worth testing for bacteria and parasites.
It''s tests only for your tap water that was already been cleaned from various microorganisms and dangerous microbes by filtering. If you want to drink this water you just need to boil it.
Should also test for parasites and pathogens.
Crazy that the lab didn't test the lead.
the pee was so random agahahahahha
What about bio trash and bacteria, parasites?
Comparing the tests is also not a useful thing due to the specific sensitivity of different tests. Some have 0 to 10, 10 to 20, 20 to 50, etc so if you have 2.2mg it will show 0 on the strip
Fish and carp and pond
Als je bij het "moeras" de rand een beetje opruimt en gras zaait en dan uiteraard ook grasmaaien als het gegroeid is dan kan je de braam "verslaan"
Maaien met een grasmaaier en niet een bosmaaier ofzo.
Why don’t you build wooden cottages instead of metal containers?
L❤ve you
Dig a deep well and forget about surface water. Way to east to get contaminated by anything. Much safer and sustainable
My dad is a Hydro geologist and you should for pathogens and parasites
The standing water was probably a bit useless to test.
How far is the spring of that stream? Because that would be the best start for collecting water for further processing (filters + chlorine (?), and also have the water tested regularly and change the process accordingly), borehole is also a possibility - but also do tests for those regularly and process it if necessary.
Good point for future spots: choose a spot with a spring.
5:37 We can see you are from Holland ;,)
cool, waar zitten jullie ongeveer?
why did you not test the Well, you said in the first video that there was one there.
Since it rains so much, couldn’t you set up a rainwater capture system, store some and run through a filtration system………easy for me to say………..I know NOTHING 🤣😂
Miss you 🤗
We are should look in to bee hives
10:30 I do, you shouldn't drink this water, at least not unfiltrated.
you're welcome
Your samples are from close to the ground. Better to get a sample thats coming from the ground, the source or spring.
heads up, u need to change the water collected for each test. u ended uo needing 6 bottles of water for proper testing
tes 4# drink it xD
Thats not a lake, thats a dirty water hole, small pond