#25 Can we get running water on our land?

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  • @IO-zz2xy
    @IO-zz2xy 3 года назад +44

    The trees with the feathery leaves/branches are called wattle trees. They have become an invasive species here in South Africa. They drink a HUGE amount of water and dry up small streams. Small streams and rivers have started to flow after 20 years here after intensive eradication of wattle along river banks in different parts of South Africa. Your water should increase if you try and eradicate the wattle trees. Also, wattle poisons the land and it is very difficult to grow any type of vegetables on land that had wattle growing on it.
    Love your videos.
    Regards from South Africa

  • @arne1781
    @arne1781 3 года назад +64

    I suggest making the tank a watertower, it doesnt even need to be very high to provide good constant water pressure.
    It's very compatible with solar because you only need a small pump that only runs whenever you have excess solar to refill the tank. Showers and stuff can use a lot of water quickly so this mitigates the need for big expensive (noisy) pumps.

  • @thehastywombat
    @thehastywombat 2 года назад +18

    Personally I'd go with all three options as you evolve the camp.
    Start with the most simple, which is using the well, this you can do mainly with the resources you already have available.
    Then as you get a larger roof surface area, get an intermediate size tank - say 5000L.
    Finally as funds allow, and the camp grows and so does its water needs, the large tank with bore on top of the hill that can gravity supply the entire camp.

  • @TheUntamed101
    @TheUntamed101 3 года назад +20

    Speaking of fires. It is always good to have a few ways off of the property if you have eucalyptus growing nearby. The oils in the wood and leaves have evolved to create conditions for fires, and burn a lot hotter than a lot of other types of trees. I would make sure to maintain that road out, and for the fire service so make the property safer and easier to defend.

    • @anshulbhardwaj4038
      @anshulbhardwaj4038 3 года назад +3

      Yes always keep two alternate roads working and accessable .

  • @markbench8721
    @markbench8721 3 года назад +21

    "neighbourland" Sounds like a nice place to visit.

  • @noname-nd8ec
    @noname-nd8ec 3 года назад +72

    Agreements with neighbors regularly end up in tears. I would be looking at it as a short term solution, while I organised better permanent infrastructure for extremely important water supply, which you cannot afford to have cut off at short notice, even if right now they are the best neighbor ever.

    • @VinceW187
      @VinceW187 3 года назад +22

      Agreed, especially since all the neighbours are old and likely the land will change hands at some point.

    • @karlcx
      @karlcx 2 года назад +10

      well said. big risk for something so important. better to spend some effort and resources now to future proof yourself against a future neighbour who might not be so friendly.

    • @santiagonavesgomez8332
      @santiagonavesgomez8332 2 года назад +4

      May be in your country

  • @markschattefor6997
    @markschattefor6997 3 года назад +19

    Eucalyptus trees are the main reason for a lot of problems with fire.
    Invasive species are the main problem in many of the problems we have to face today.
    Rabbits and cats in Australia, american rivercrabs in sweetwater ponds in the Netherlands.

    • @l23722
      @l23722 3 года назад +2

      The main reason for fire proples are people. People set things on fire. Having eucalyptus certainly aggravates the severity of those fires, but trees don't combust by themselves, people set them on fire. So, again, the main reason for a a lot of problems with fires are people (also because people planted those trees to begin with). I would actually like to also add up that his land is actually infested with "Mimosa" trees (I have no idea how it is called in english), which is also an invasive species (much more than the eucalyptus) and extremely prone to fire too.

    • @markschattefor6997
      @markschattefor6997 3 года назад +2

      @@l23722 It seems that you don't understand the natural behaviour of the eucalytus species, and why it can be such a dangerous tree in areas where there is no maintenance and where it doesn't belong.
      First thing to know is that eucalytus survives fire and their seeds like to be burnt before sprouting.
      So after a fire all other species are burnt but only eucalyptus survives, that will be the start of another bigger disaster.

    • @ric_dk-9520
      @ric_dk-9520 3 года назад +1

      @@markschattefor6997 correct... eucalytus actually creates an environment that is highly flammable, and on top of that they suck all the water out of the ground ... So often a meter of highly flammable materiale on top of dried out dirt... = it burns like tinder regardless if there are humans are not... but humans ofc makes the risk of fire higher ;P

    • @ric_dk-9520
      @ric_dk-9520 3 года назад +4

      @@l23722 most forest fires has natural causes.. like lightning...

  • @veronicabalfourpaul2288
    @veronicabalfourpaul2288 3 года назад +15

    Don't forget that the pipes need to be buried so they don't melt in a fire! Water from deep bore holes aren't necessarily 'clean'. Often they have high amounts of iron and other minerals. Great that you decided not to rush into doing big stuff. You already have water on your land. You will find a good solution!

  • @dcawkwell
    @dcawkwell 3 года назад +7

    IBC containers are 1000 litres and make a good water tank just need painting black light and easy to move. Easy to add more storage just by connecting them together. In the UK second hand food ones are approx £40. They can also be used if you fancy producing your own methane from kitchen waste to use in a gas cooker (bio digester).

  • @Sciayam
    @Sciayam 3 года назад +4

    See if Guildbrook Farm has some info, they build a well (and had problems). Also Kirsten Dirksen looks into alternatives like in the video: New Earthships capture more energy, water & food at lower cost

  • @javipk7
    @javipk7 3 года назад +4

    if collecting rainwater isn´t very expensive it´s always worth to do it and use it for watering the plants / trees, so that you don´t 'waste' purified water on that, so your requirements of purified water for drinking will be smaller

  • @82gamerprincess31
    @82gamerprincess31 3 года назад +3

    I’d say a mix of well and rainwater collection would be good and scalable. The well is nice in the dry seasons but it’s hard to beat rainwater properly filtered and cleaned. It’s naturally soft, mineral and chemicals free, and pretty simple to collect a ton of it. I worry about your wells being so close to so much farm land. The likelihood of you having harmful bacteria, sulfur, chemicals, heavy metals, etc in your well water is pretty high which can be quite expensive to fix. A three stage water filter and UV treatment can put rainwater above water treatment standards for the US and can be built from basic consumer grade parts.
    As for storage April Wilkerson here on RUclips did a video on rainwater collection and she is using a massive built in place “tank” that uses a liner like a big swimming pool. You get incredible capacity for way less than free standing tanks.

  • @4833504F
    @4833504F 3 года назад +12

    If you're going to put a solar system on that hill anyway, maybe you could also use it to get LTE or a direct wifi link (2-3km are doable with line of sight) onto your property. Thinking about that, a weather webcam also crosses my mind.

  • @swampsidechronicles5822
    @swampsidechronicles5822 2 года назад +3

    Hello,
    When storing big amounts of water in stainless steel drum ,make sure that water temperature in summer is not rise above 25*C . And be careful when storing big amounts of cold water - stagnation is bad thing an bacteria can grow inside that storage tank.

  • @cobralyoner
    @cobralyoner 3 года назад +1

    I think we should also consider what the use is. like for someone living off girl alone it’s maybe not the best idea to drill for water, but for a whole community i think it is more acceptable because more ppl are benefiting from it. considering it is a project it would maybe even a cool idea to do all 3 methods to gather data on the pros and cons in the real world, like what filtration is like, coasts, upkeep, consumables etc. vs a deep water source that is clean.

  • @synco1985
    @synco1985 3 года назад +3

    Hello, new to your channel, I like what I am seeing, regarding the water supply, I was thinking, if you have running water on your property, maybe you can use an "ram pump" to achieve elevation for water, look it up. good job.

  • @wendymorrison5619
    @wendymorrison5619 3 года назад +4

    Go big, and then double it. You are better to have to much storage than too little. Wine tanks are great. Set them up, paint them white, so they are not blinding, and be secure.

  • @l23722
    @l23722 3 года назад +4

    Just a small correction: the Star Mountain (Serra da Estrela), is not the highest mountain in Portugal, it is the second highest. The highest mountain of Portugal is Mount Pico in Pico Island!

  • @kwlweapons
    @kwlweapons 3 года назад +6

    You could also look into setting up a ram or tromps pump system if you have flowing water across your property, which I believe you do. From either of these you could go to a tank near the base camp which could also be fed by the small roof catchments on the camp. Using the abandoned well water definitely appears to be the best option short term fix, I hope the neighbor agrees and lets you use it. Also recommend you look into Yeomans work and his scale of permanence to help you lay down a good ecological water based design, it’s a great tool in the land designers kit. All the best

  • @jamesrivis620
    @jamesrivis620 3 года назад +41

    I really like how you gave thought to all the options and came up with a good solution, as long as your neighbor agrees. By the way, the cover on the old well would probably be called a 'cap'. Try to find out WHY it was abandoned.

  • @MrMarkusmulder
    @MrMarkusmulder 3 года назад +2

    So funny that you are chasing a watertank while it's pijpenstelen 😉

  • @100Noddy
    @100Noddy 3 года назад +1

    Good technical commentary and assessment of your options.

  • @TheBeardedBoofhead
    @TheBeardedBoofhead 3 года назад +2

    ‘This for you RUclips...’ :D
    thanks, first laugh of my morning (I’m not in a good mood)

  • @meskita106
    @meskita106 3 года назад +2

    You really need to plant some native forest. Apparently, if you peel off a section acasia bark they die off, coppicing only encourages new growth.

  • @martinwyke
    @martinwyke 3 года назад +3

    Checkout "food grade IBC totes" for water storage.
    These are very modest cost even new and are readily available second hand for reuse. They are tanks on a pallet used for delivering liquid food ingredients. They're usually 1,000 liters each, fit two deep/wide inside containers, stack two high. You could grow a bank of these on top of your unused container roof to match increasing demand from Kamp growth. The only downside is they would need protecting from the sun.

  • @FedoraSmith
    @FedoraSmith 3 года назад +9

    Though making a well is necessary, rain collection is also interesting as complement or support. Also each can be appointed for different uses. Do you know a kind of passive solar construction called ‘earthship’ which uses rain collection? I think those would be interesting for your Project Kamp.
    Saludos desde España!

  • @africanelectron751
    @africanelectron751 3 года назад

    That tank will outlive you and your great grandchildren.

  • @SolarLantern424
    @SolarLantern424 2 года назад +2

    Awesome. Really glad you realised how invasive and unnecessary drilling a borehole would be. Using an existing well was a great solution and I'm glad your neighbours helped you. It's handy that it borders your land because you could easily share it with the neighbour if they want to use it in the future too. Collecting rainwater is also a no brainer. It's so cheap and easy to do. Requires no electronics so is right there in the event of a fire or something and is perfect for so many uses such as watering plants, putting out fires (not electrical ones tho), for building, and so many other things and it is also the most sustainable source of water. All you need to collect rain water is guttering and a water container. Some people have even made do with less than that! So you might want to work out how to collect some rainwater too.

  • @BrasilPopular
    @BrasilPopular 3 года назад +1

    It could be nice to use the rainwater collection from the start, in addition to the neighbor well. Even with fewer surfaces, it could be good because it would give you guys experience with rainwater collection, and it wouldn't be much effort and costs, plus it would give some water for smaller uses, like watering plants and so on, and it would give us the experience and learning from doing it, which in turn could lead to other insights and ideas.

  • @kevinplacid9351
    @kevinplacid9351 3 года назад

    well presented sir you make this interesting for the handyman great watch booooom

  • @grandpasbasement576
    @grandpasbasement576 2 года назад +1

    i love ur stuff!

  • @lancedaniels
    @lancedaniels 3 года назад

    Thanks for posting and sharing. Looking fwd to what happens with the well.

  • @AS0144
    @AS0144 3 года назад

    If you go with that solution i would suggest getting a pump big enough that you can use in the bore hole option. The well seems like a good solution for now but i have a feeling you will need the bore hole. Great video as always!

  • @mw1284
    @mw1284 Год назад

    Love your videos! ❤

  • @BeatrizSilva-st6lb
    @BeatrizSilva-st6lb 3 года назад +1

    Just a small correction. The highest mountain of portugal is an island call Pico and is in Azores

  • @dennisjames3232
    @dennisjames3232 Год назад

    What about running a sturdy pipe from the lagoon. You repaired the floodway/gate and your neighbor seems quite amenable to your projects. The lagoon is way up hill and would easily fill a tank ( with plenty of pressure ). Alternatively. run the pipe into the existing well to insure water during the dry months. The excess water from the lagoon just runs into a stream so what difference does it makes if the overflow from the lagoon goes to the well when it's needed! If there is run off It still returns to the ground water of the area! Great Job!

  • @VasculhoPT
    @VasculhoPT 3 года назад +1

    trust me you need a bore hole at least for dinking water, many places in Portugal the municity is using bore holes for public water anyway
    for the remaining stuff you can use water from spring

  • @KarelM
    @KarelM 3 года назад +1

    Een rvs tank zal snel opwarmen zeker als je in Portugal woont.
    de opwarming van een ongeïsoleerde tank zal minstens 3 tot 5 gr. celsius per 24 uur zijn.
    misschien zelfs meer als een tank in de zon staat.

  • @vicherd
    @vicherd 3 года назад +1

    such good neighbors. :)

  • @JustPlainRob
    @JustPlainRob Год назад

    The borehole would be the right option for the long term. The gravity feed is excellent redundancy, you can use flexline tubing to pipe it down to basekamp or wherever you need it, and a borehole is hardly invasive. It is expensive, though, especially with a 16kL stainless tank.

  • @aimswanson1
    @aimswanson1 3 года назад +1

    I love your theme song. It's a Gospel Song. "Leaning On The Everlasting Arms" Lyrics: What a fellowship, what a joy divine, leaning on the everlasting arms; What a blessedness, what a peace is mine, Leaning on the Everlasting Arms. Chorus: Leaning, leaning, safe and secure from all alarms; Leaning, leaning, leaning on the Everlasting Arms. Have you ever heard this song. I don't know if they sing it in Nederlands churches.

    • @gemmalouise4473
      @gemmalouise4473 Год назад

      Thank you was looking for this. Have a great day

  • @youmeandtheD
    @youmeandtheD 3 года назад

    Look into a RAM pump from the creek to push water uphill.

  • @gardentours
    @gardentours 3 года назад

    "It's good for the water tank to have a good view" 😂🤣 made my day 👍

  • @MrMarkusmulder
    @MrMarkusmulder 3 года назад +1

    Ooh I think I heard the snelweg (highway)

  • @JazzFunkNobby1964
    @JazzFunkNobby1964 2 года назад

    Connect a long hose pipe to that natural spring tap in the village. They won't mind.

  • @NadesikoRose
    @NadesikoRose Год назад

    You could also check out rainwater catchment tanks with the eves trough to catch it

  • @noeraldinkabam
    @noeraldinkabam 3 года назад

    It seems rainwaterharvesting would make sense too.

  • @hendrikarqitekt6286
    @hendrikarqitekt6286 2 года назад +1

    to hot in metal, you should buy a concrete container, that keeps your water good

  • @rikkiesix
    @rikkiesix 3 года назад

    Maybe use a Ram pump to pump the water from the little river to the top of the mountain

  • @Melicoy
    @Melicoy 3 года назад

    thanks nice

  • @robertfoedisch
    @robertfoedisch Год назад +1

    Have your engineers calculate how high the dam would need to be raised to provide you year round water 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @macnet83
    @macnet83 3 года назад +6

    I think we have to request a permit for drilling and getting water

  • @xierxu
    @xierxu 3 года назад

    My PVC tank is over 20 years old and still going strong.

  • @AJTarnas
    @AJTarnas 3 года назад +3

    €3000 for a borehole is a great deal. it's common in the western US for a 100m borehole to cost $30k, even if the driller doesnt hit water. €5k for pump and plumbing in a shallow well is not accurate. you can do it for under €1k. and you didnt discuss three other ways to get water: haul with truck; collect from surface flow; collect from air via hydropanel or fog net.

  • @IngeniousOutdoors
    @IngeniousOutdoors 3 года назад +5

    If you do decide to dam up the stream and have like a 5 foot drop, you could easily use a Ram Pump to get water to the top of the hill and fill the tank for free. Ram Pumps are amazing technology and dead simple to make and use.

  • @susanaquezada7671
    @susanaquezada7671 3 года назад +1

    Water is very important in a farm

  • @Donna_Bug
    @Donna_Bug 2 года назад

    You should run a string along your border so you know exactly where your property line is.

  • @sNEAKYnIGHTmUPPET
    @sNEAKYnIGHTmUPPET 3 года назад +2

    why wouldn't you just use a Bunyip or ram pump to pump from the creek? you know there is water there, instead of the gamble on the borehole?

  • @J03Nelson
    @J03Nelson 3 года назад

    So what was the dominant species of tree before the big forest fires? Quercus maybe? I don't think much of the eucalyptus because they are not meant for Europe (they are from Australia). Their roots go so deep they lower the water table and produce all that highly combustible biomass (leaves and bark).

  • @variagib
    @variagib 3 года назад

    what a great picture quality :DD

  • @BurkenProductions
    @BurkenProductions 3 года назад

    Lol 3:20 "they don't rust" and there's clearly spots of rust there too. Yes stainless will rust under certain conditions hehe lol

  • @robertfoedisch
    @robertfoedisch Год назад

    Please consider retro fitting the Dam

  • @JoopKarelSpank1
    @JoopKarelSpank1 3 года назад

    im not sure you actually need the heavy machinery for a well. In the Netherlands you can order a manual drill 13m for around 135 euro. No idea whether you'd expect to hit rocks while drilling but if it's only sand it might be an option

  • @FF-li6zj
    @FF-li6zj Год назад

    Torre is just the highest mountain on mainland Portugal - Ponta do Pico is 300m higher :)

  • @FuchsLoe
    @FuchsLoe 3 года назад

    Top

  • @57acres48
    @57acres48 3 года назад +3

    Good morning! Only 2nd time I've been 1st to comment! Really enjoying your channel. Inspiring for our property although ours is not as big or "wild". Looking great!

  • @TheUntamed101
    @TheUntamed101 3 года назад

    The metal ones kinda look like old brewing vats. PVC are fine if you paint them, or burry. The UV is the big issue. I do not know what the material origins for PVC tanks where you are; but here in aus a lot are recycled.

  • @BenVeenstra
    @BenVeenstra 3 года назад

    The filtration systems you mentioned seem really expensive. I'm no expert but to my knowledge a water system on a sailing boat from salt so fresh water Is like 2000 €. With a big tank this could easily provide for a good sized household. You could just use the stream you already have. The well from the land next to you would make for a great video but would also still need filtration.

  • @allanandkilde8383
    @allanandkilde8383 3 года назад

    Where is this place? Great idea using storage tank for water.

  • @MrGurujohnny
    @MrGurujohnny 2 года назад +1

    Thank you what area was the man selling the water tanks?

  • @rw-xf4cb
    @rw-xf4cb 2 года назад

    Wouldnt put the tank near the eucalyptus theyre a fire waiting to happen. Australia & California have them and prone to bushfires if not managed well. Plus you will have to bury the pipe to avoid getting damaged by fire. Put the bore and tank near the main housing area - have electricity and gasoline pumping systems for fire, watering etc You can have a smaller tank on a large stand or higher up.

  • @margiemistretta8885
    @margiemistretta8885 2 года назад +1

    Exactly how does he clean the tanks. I'd be worried about water quality v how do you test

  • @kearnsey64
    @kearnsey64 3 года назад +3

    Why don't you put it on a pedestal you build from large 8"X8" posts. 10 feet high should provide enough gravity. Place it near your containers.

    • @ric_dk-9520
      @ric_dk-9520 3 года назад +1

      or just on top of a container ;P

  • @Barbaralee1205
    @Barbaralee1205 3 года назад +1

    Rainwater catch is a long term solution as Base Camp builds more roof space. Water filtration is actually not that difficult or expensive with 4 fifty gal drums, gravel, sand and charcoal. I’ll try to find the link that explains how to do it.ruclips.net/video/kazEAzGWuIc/видео.html

  • @lorrainemanclark1889
    @lorrainemanclark1889 2 года назад

    Who's playing the intro music ? Love the content of your videos

  • @dvalente6178
    @dvalente6178 2 года назад +1

    Do you keep how much you already have spent ? monthly basis perhaps?

  • @sebasman1000
    @sebasman1000 3 года назад +1

    general question, I'm also looking to buy a piece of land in portugal. And also would like to start by dropping 2-3 shipping containers to live from :) But I can't find anything online if you need a permit to place one. Do you need a permit to put a shipping container on your land?

  • @mscuracao
    @mscuracao 3 года назад +5

    Would a Ram pump be an option? No electricity needed

    • @tonylarose4842
      @tonylarose4842 3 года назад +1

      I'm not sure if a ram pump would be able to pull enough water?

    • @leslieaustin151
      @leslieaustin151 3 года назад

      @@tonylarose4842 it needs some proper flow to work.

  • @dweamy1
    @dweamy1 3 года назад +1

    Are you sure that there's water where you wanted to put the water tank & borehole? Would you need a permit to do this?

  • @charllybronson6040
    @charllybronson6040 2 года назад

    ❤‍🔥❤‍🔥❤‍🔥

  • @ronronc6210
    @ronronc6210 2 года назад

    Where do you get your solar panels? What is the manufacturer?

  • @jill7717
    @jill7717 2 года назад

    I’ve you would place a metal thing on top off a mountain/hill doesn’t it attract the lightning? ⚡️ and causes fire?

  • @tommcl8548
    @tommcl8548 3 года назад

    👍👊

  • @aaron4135
    @aaron4135 3 года назад

    If you are storing water long term in a tank like this you are going to want to put a chlorine feed in it or you will have bacterial growth within a short time.

  • @lutomson3496
    @lutomson3496 3 года назад

    do a well and be done with it with a filter and tank

  • @duartemonteiro7463
    @duartemonteiro7463 3 года назад

    😀💪💪💪

  • @gosells
    @gosells 3 года назад

    is it not possible to use the water from the creek?

  • @stephengent9974
    @stephengent9974 3 года назад

    Since it rains so much, why don't you harvest the rain water?

  • @barbaradetmer9927
    @barbaradetmer9927 Год назад

    Why not put out big rainbarrels to collect rainwater for gardening and other non drinking water options

  • @ElJasperino
    @ElJasperino 3 года назад

    An other YT channel paid around €60k for a borehole for around 50m. A looked for the video but unfortunately I didn’t find it.

  • @TruckerPhill
    @TruckerPhill 2 года назад

    Who did you buy your converted water tank from ?
    I would to buy one of those for my farm as well…
    Can you please tell me the gentleman’s name/business address ?

  • @MrMarkusmulder
    @MrMarkusmulder 3 года назад

    Waarom is er altijd een waterstroompje over de Mathildelaan 040?

  • @ThomasAkaK
    @ThomasAkaK 2 года назад

    Atmospheric Water Generato

  • @maralogio
    @maralogio 3 года назад +1

    Quizás os hubiera sido mejor potabilizar el auga de superficie.

    • @maralogio
      @maralogio 3 года назад

      Oh!.. hablé demasiado pronto.

  • @nielsencs
    @nielsencs 3 года назад

    Research hydraulic ram pumps.

  • @anshulbhardwaj4038
    @anshulbhardwaj4038 3 года назад

    Bore hole not good we in India dig millions of those and now grould water level is depleted
    Well very good we used to do them 50 years ago even on al nino droughts they used to provide water add rain water harvesting to it and you will replanish ground water that you harvested through out the year .

  • @sylvieroy3751
    @sylvieroy3751 2 года назад

    You have beautiful eyes. 🙂💕

  • @Simon-dm8zv
    @Simon-dm8zv 3 года назад +1

    Will there be other people living at the location as well?

  • @09lnt
    @09lnt 2 года назад

    That's not PVC, that's fiberglass

  • @BurkenProductions
    @BurkenProductions 3 года назад

    It's called "marker", there no such word "markation"