When I read the book way back and pointed out that someone got literally SA’d and also ended up with that person, I suggested that there should be trigger warnings and it should NOT be romanticized. Somehow I summoned all the credence fans who continued to attack me, so this video really cured my soul
15:07 coho has a son. Hes just ALLEGEDLY a piece of garbage who SA'd someone and Coho blocked her. Allegedly... Edit: sorry, I was mistaken. Apparently it was sexual harassment of a minor. Which is... also a crime.
Honestly she strikes me as a boy mom. But even if this isn't true and her son is innocent, her books are awful and she needs to seriously question the kind of audience she has built that excuses SA and abuse.
Iirc it was sexual harassment which is still disgusting. But yeah that was a whole mess nonetheless and I hope his victim has found healing. 22 year olds have no business talking to 16 year olds period and he still committed a crime, I just wanted to say something about the misinformation surrounding it. CoHo defending her son instead of doing the right thing is gross
@sleepysadpoet ah yes, you're right. He was 22 and she was 16. So smexually harassing a minor which if he even tried to meet up with her would have been a crime. Where's Chris Hanson when you need him
@@krystinayit's all foul and disgusting behavior definitely. And the way CoHo was silent about it for months after it came out is gross too. 22 year olds have no business talking to 16 year olds
a while ago i saw a person on ig reels promoting credence as an “age-gap romance” book without even mentioning the GROOMING AND SA??? like how can you promote that to your audience in good conscience 😭😭
So her daughter is just a few years younger than that main character?! I could not write smut books if the character was only remotely a similar age as my child or younger sibling.
I’m here from the future to tell everyone that I name dropped Credence to as many authors as possible to authors at the convention I was working at and they all had the same disgusted reaction as we bonded over what the hell is wrong with book tiktok/ ‘reading community’ for women these days(cuz I feel like corn content is being pushed onto women right now like they keep shoveling garbage at us specifically as if we can’t read normal books or something, bigotry of low expectations) and then I bought a ton of their books so if anything ever stands out to me I’m recommending it to the channel unless it’s 500+
Im a middle school teacher (7th-8th grade) I’m not joking when I say when I saw a student carrying this book around with them I almost fell over (never read but heard it was bad). I don’t understand how YOUNG teens can just walk out of a bookstore with this book??? Or why can’t they come with some sort of an explicit label to put on the front cover like a CD used to lol
I saw one of my students carry around one of these fairy prince arranged marriage books last year, and she was 14 or 15. Now I don't know if these are YA and NA but it still felt real weird to see these books I see torn apart on reviews read by children in my environment. Reading your comment, it made me kind of glad most of the students I tutor do not actually read books unless forced to lol
@@eospolaris9472the worst example is icebreaker from the way it looks you would think that it could be a kiddie book which even some unfortunate parent or teacher could pick up. Ugh this is almost elsagate again
In the stall, when you specified woman and not by a man, I was almost certain you were going to say horse at some point. I've never read this book and never will but seems on theme.
I don't know if it's just because I'm sane, or because I'm asexual, but I don't understand this theme that other men just can't control themselves, that if they go too long without sex they become feral. Excuse me??
Wait no because I was listening to someone reviewing this same book while on a flight back home 2 days ago 😭😭😭 This book is dedicated for airport suffering
I'm so ready for more videos discussing how terrible the dark romance genre is. Yes, it's fictional, but we need to critique the kinds of books that are created and what kind of discussions they promote. The dark romance community tends to fail on every regard because instead of sticking by the stance that fiction is fiction, they tend to romanticize horrific stories and call them "beautiful love stories". A "love story" cannot be beautiful and also include grape, SA, and predatory behavior from the love interest. Clearly none of these authors have the actual capabilities to write good redemption stories that involve the abuser acknowledging what they did was wrong and getting away from the victim, because dark romance relies on the idea that the abuser never changes so he can continue being dark. So instead, they end up trying to justify his actions as a way to redeem him. Thus, dark romances end up being insulting to SA survivors for attempting a justification. It's far more disgusting to try to justify SA than to write your problematic kinky fantasies surrounding it. Because at least then I know that you know that SA isn't good and you just enjoy it as a fantasy, and I don't have to wonder what you actually think about SA survivors in real life because you wrote whole ass books trying to say that it was okay the love interest SA'ed the mc because he had trauma 🤦♀️.
just an FYI, she likely used 'swag' to refer to free merchandise from the motocross companies. Companies frequently get merchandise with their logo to advertise their product and then put it into 'swag bags' and whatnot.
I feel like the Van Der Berg naming is very, like, medieval, before surnames became separated from occupation - names like Smith/Schmidt, Müller, Schneider, and other characteristics that made characters stand out in a smaller community. Like, ah, it's John from the mountain, he comes into the village and helps the farmers with fixing their stables, brings materials from the mountains and lives secluded there most of the year. Like that makes a lot of sense.
girl you deserve WAY more views and subs than you have❤️ your reviews are amazing bg noise when i draw also my german heritage ass is over here like why do you look exactly like me but flipped genders lol
I'm fine with trashy literature, they're basically popcorn flicks in written form. However, Credence doesn't get a pass on that. It goes past the pale and is absolutely disgusting and deserves the fire pit. 🤢
"Tiernan" might be an anglicized form of "Tighearnán" which means "little lord"! ( _án_ being the diminutive suffix lol 😅) Not sure why it's this mc's name, but to be fair, Penelope Douglas does give a lot of their characters weird, quirky, or unique names. So they can......stand out, i guess?? Idk 😅
15:07 I think this all the time about these people and it puts it into perspective how sickening these people are you are into this stuff/post these things
As an author "I bet she writes in Word" actually hit like such a good insult, lmao! idk why but just...writing in Google Docs or Word to me is so... Honey you're making your life harder 🤣
Dog I made it all the way to take off. Incredible way to spend waiting in the terminal Lmao, it’s me, you, and me iPad as I draw stickers for the group chat. And the Wendy’s nuggets I bought at the food court
When I read the book way back and pointed out that someone got literally SA’d and also ended up with that person, I suggested that there should be trigger warnings and it should NOT be romanticized. Somehow I summoned all the credence fans who continued to attack me, so this video really cured my soul
15:07 coho has a son. Hes just ALLEGEDLY a piece of garbage who SA'd someone and Coho blocked her. Allegedly...
Edit: sorry, I was mistaken. Apparently it was sexual harassment of a minor. Which is... also a crime.
Honestly she strikes me as a boy mom. But even if this isn't true and her son is innocent, her books are awful and she needs to seriously question the kind of audience she has built that excuses SA and abuse.
@@ettaetta439 100% AGREED
Iirc it was sexual harassment which is still disgusting. But yeah that was a whole mess nonetheless and I hope his victim has found healing. 22 year olds have no business talking to 16 year olds period and he still committed a crime, I just wanted to say something about the misinformation surrounding it. CoHo defending her son instead of doing the right thing is gross
@sleepysadpoet ah yes, you're right. He was 22 and she was 16. So smexually harassing a minor which if he even tried to meet up with her would have been a crime. Where's Chris Hanson when you need him
@@krystinayit's all foul and disgusting behavior definitely. And the way CoHo was silent about it for months after it came out is gross too. 22 year olds have no business talking to 16 year olds
a while ago i saw a person on ig reels promoting credence as an “age-gap romance” book without even mentioning the GROOMING AND SA??? like how can you promote that to your audience in good conscience 😭😭
So her daughter is just a few years younger than that main character?! I could not write smut books if the character was only remotely a similar age as my child or younger sibling.
Great that the the terrifying psychopath character is mute, thanks Penelope Douglas
I WARNED YOU GURL 😮. I love a good trashy romance but this was BEYOND insane.
I’m here from the future to tell everyone that I name dropped Credence to as many authors as possible to authors at the convention I was working at and they all had the same disgusted reaction as we bonded over what the hell is wrong with book tiktok/ ‘reading community’ for women these days(cuz I feel like corn content is being pushed onto women right now like they keep shoveling garbage at us specifically as if we can’t read normal books or something, bigotry of low expectations) and then I bought a ton of their books so if anything ever stands out to me I’m recommending it to the channel unless it’s 500+
Im a middle school teacher (7th-8th grade) I’m not joking when I say when I saw a student carrying this book around with them I almost fell over (never read but heard it was bad). I don’t understand how YOUNG teens can just walk out of a bookstore with this book??? Or why can’t they come with some sort of an explicit label to put on the front cover like a CD used to lol
Books don't really have explicit labels which, thinking about it, is kinda odd. I could check out 50 shades from the library when I was 13/14 too :/
I saw one of my students carry around one of these fairy prince arranged marriage books last year, and she was 14 or 15. Now I don't know if these are YA and NA but it still felt real weird to see these books I see torn apart on reviews read by children in my environment. Reading your comment, it made me kind of glad most of the students I tutor do not actually read books unless forced to lol
@@eospolaris9472the worst example is icebreaker from the way it looks you would think that it could be a kiddie book which even some unfortunate parent or teacher could pick up.
Ugh this is almost elsagate again
bro your reviews are so funny and so real
In the stall, when you specified woman and not by a man, I was almost certain you were going to say horse at some point. I've never read this book and never will but seems on theme.
I don't know if it's just because I'm sane, or because I'm asexual, but I don't understand this theme that other men just can't control themselves, that if they go too long without sex they become feral. Excuse me??
I NEEDED this for my airport experience. Sending this video playing through the security checkpoint
Wait no because I was listening to someone reviewing this same book while on a flight back home 2 days ago 😭😭😭
This book is dedicated for airport suffering
@@grossberglawoffices9910 it’s an evil tale for evil coded places
im doing the exact same thing😭
6:48 color me shocked that the author is self obsessed
"Coloraaadooh" and "Kale" kept hitting me like a convoy of trucks lmao - thank you so much for your suffering/service
just found ur channel and holy shit u are SO FUNNY instant subscribe ❤😂
Oh and also your hair looks fantastic ✨✨✨
YES
I'm so ready for more videos discussing how terrible the dark romance genre is. Yes, it's fictional, but we need to critique the kinds of books that are created and what kind of discussions they promote. The dark romance community tends to fail on every regard because instead of sticking by the stance that fiction is fiction, they tend to romanticize horrific stories and call them "beautiful love stories". A "love story" cannot be beautiful and also include grape, SA, and predatory behavior from the love interest.
Clearly none of these authors have the actual capabilities to write good redemption stories that involve the abuser acknowledging what they did was wrong and getting away from the victim, because dark romance relies on the idea that the abuser never changes so he can continue being dark. So instead, they end up trying to justify his actions as a way to redeem him. Thus, dark romances end up being insulting to SA survivors for attempting a justification. It's far more disgusting to try to justify SA than to write your problematic kinky fantasies surrounding it. Because at least then I know that you know that SA isn't good and you just enjoy it as a fantasy, and I don't have to wonder what you actually think about SA survivors in real life because you wrote whole ass books trying to say that it was okay the love interest SA'ed the mc because he had trauma 🤦♀️.
just an FYI, she likely used 'swag' to refer to free merchandise from the motocross companies. Companies frequently get merchandise with their logo to advertise their product and then put it into 'swag bags' and whatnot.
Only 10 seconds and already want to say I’m truly sorry for the fact you had to read this book
26:53 yeah they’re kind of chewy but they start sort of hard, I don’t eat candy but my mom likes these so I’ve been around them
Someone i follow on Instagram praised the couch scene 😭😭 they naturally didnt give context to what happens in the scene bc it was filthy
I feel like the Van Der Berg naming is very, like, medieval, before surnames became separated from occupation - names like Smith/Schmidt, Müller, Schneider, and other characteristics that made characters stand out in a smaller community. Like, ah, it's John from the mountain, he comes into the village and helps the farmers with fixing their stables, brings materials from the mountains and lives secluded there most of the year. Like that makes a lot of sense.
sophie makes the biggest sacrifices for us
I now know more about this book than I ever needed to know 😅
not the horsie morsies 😭😭😭
girl you deserve WAY more views and subs than you have❤️ your reviews are amazing bg noise when i draw
also my german heritage ass is over here like why do you look exactly like me but flipped genders lol
I'm fine with trashy literature, they're basically popcorn flicks in written form. However, Credence doesn't get a pass on that. It goes past the pale and is absolutely disgusting and deserves the fire pit. 🤢
@mirankitsune0440 Firepit? Your realise that Farenheit 451 was written about people like you, right?
@@M.H.I.A.F.T. You realize what a joke is right? 😮💨
Swag is a real word semi commonly used to describe clothes given for free from a brand!
For advertising purposes
"Tiernan" might be an anglicized form of "Tighearnán" which means "little lord"! ( _án_ being the diminutive suffix lol 😅)
Not sure why it's this mc's name, but to be fair, Penelope Douglas does give a lot of their characters weird, quirky, or unique names. So they can......stand out, i guess?? Idk 😅
14:34 sometimes i forget new hampshire is a part of my country, that's how much is going on over there.
15:07 I think this all the time about these people and it puts it into perspective how sickening these people are you are into this stuff/post these things
she's writing her own fanfic
Damn Penelope is trauma dumping lmao
as someone who lives in the mountains and has a drug-addict mom, i find this representation appalling
I didnt realise how long this book was until I saw a copy in a shop, wth 😳😳
I've been refreshing for this video all day
also lip product be popping
lol same!!!
1:07:46 oh my god what a deep cut I LOVE memeing about that holy shit fr
your hair looks gorgeoussss
Your makeup is on point!!! ❤
im just clicking in but im surprised you havent read this yet wtf its amazing ragefuel!! thanks for going thru this for our enjoyment, book bestie!!!!
14:35 no, we do not care about New Hampshire
As an author "I bet she writes in Word" actually hit like such a good insult, lmao! idk why but just...writing in Google Docs or Word to me is so... Honey you're making your life harder 🤣
I didn’t even have my earbuds in yet and this springs up on me 58:10
looking forward to hearing someone else experience this book while i knit :3
I feel like people LOVE to hate this book 😂.
It’s so funny that your German and your accent screams a Italian man living in NY lmao
im a quarter italian that might be why
@@honestlysophie oh yeah it explains why. Awesome video btw
Why couldn’t he have just gotten a flower tattoo
Omg watching this vid from Colorado LMAO
whatever you do don't read Wings of a Butterfly! Please don't.
Nonverbal King 😂😂😂
1:50 not apologizing, not my vote.
Why is this a book and not on a premium video on pornhub??
Dog I made it all the way to take off. Incredible way to spend waiting in the terminal Lmao, it’s me, you, and me iPad as I draw stickers for the group chat. And the Wendy’s nuggets I bought at the food court
sophi I hope you read good books frrom time to time .👀
Absolutely terrible representation for the vow of silence community
oh god
Hi there, just wanted to say that the author of credence goes by they/them pronouns :)
Just a headsup Penelope is nonbinary and uses they/them pronouns
NVM you addressed that already
These always feel like FaceTimes I love this
They had a CHILD? 😟 some ppl aren’t meant for kids fr