The sandworms give off a static charge that extends for kilometers around them. This charge looses up the sand and allows them to glide through it like water. It also is the reason why they are able to detect rhythmic vibrations from the smallest objects on the surface of the desert.
@@cmanmaxwell Other than the House Atreides homeworld of Caladan, I don't remember if it ever said. Remember, this is Paul's Grandfather so they may have had an arena where ritual feats like bullfighting took place, and even the Duke amy enter if he wishes. I don't think Paul or his Father ever did, though.
I liked how over the course of the film, Paul saw a lot of Muad’Dib, the desert mouse that can survive for long periods out in the desert. Really gives him a reason to eventually take the name Muad’Dib when he joins the fremen (he’s not very physically imposing, but he’s able to survive the desert)
Not all of Paul's dreams come to life, they are only potential futures that may happen or not depending on his decisions, for example he dreamt of befriending Jamis but that never happened as Paul ends up killing him in the duel.
That's what I thought, I'm assuming these visions will keep the viewer and plot still in question (unless you read the books and watched the 84' Dune). It was a nice touch by the director and writers.
I assume that the dream was symbolic because Jamie says he will teach Paul, and at his funeral Paul says Janis taught him about showing respect when you take a life, and the other Fremen are impressed that he’ll shed water (tears) for a slain enemy.
No, like they said before me, also take into account the vision when Paul dies, he didn't die literally, they said when you take a life you take your own too, so Paul died in the dream and he died when he killed
@@glacialimpala That's part of it, the vision was also a potential alternate timeline wherein Javis kills Paul and that helps show that this is the one moment that Paul has to deprive the future of the holy war that he has foreseen, hence the emphasis on that moment, the moment that paul first kills, the moment the Kwisatz Haderach arises.
@@SMSCOOBY71 Are you drunk? There are many criticisms to be had about this movie, but the look and feel of it are easily the best parts of this movie, it's one of the more cinematic movies to have come out this year.
They changed a few things from the trailer. Duncan in the trailer says "lets fight like demons" but in the movie hes describing the fremen "they fight like demons"
This movie was by far my favorite movie that's come out this year. Very well written and easy to follow despite the entire film being in the desert like planet it keeps you completely interested in the story. I love it and can't wait for part 2
"Jessica knows the right words to say to set Shadout Mapes wailing" XD Nooooo she didn't, I thought that was actually a nice nod to that part in the book... she didn't know exactly what to say, hence signaling her guard to be prepared for violence because she was worried she might get it wrong... she was 100% feeling and guessing her way through the conversation and started to call the crysknife a "maker of death", but when Mapes heard "maker" she thought Jessica was about to say something about *the* Makers (sandworms) and Jessica picked up that "maker" must be a key word and didn't finish her sentence.
Anyone else find it really annoying when people use "shadout" as Mapes' first name? She is "the shadout" Mapes. I had to look up what "shadout" meant, but I at least remembered that it was a title.
I've always been of the opinion that Dune needed to be an HBO (or other streaming service) series akin to Game of Thrones. There is WAY too much story to adapt as a movie, even a two part movie. That said, Villeneuve's version was about as good as possible given the time limitations he has to work with
@@sonvult583 hopefully so, there is so much material to mine from the series. Although God Emperor is my favorite of the series, I’m not sure if would work from a cinematic (I don’t mean CGI) perspective
You missed the small copy of the Orange Catholic Bible that Gurney was reading when arriving on the transport ship and all the small quotes from it peppered throughout the film by various characters.
For those who only watch the movie and haven't read the book... There is more to the stuffed bull's head, being just one half of a pair of pieces. THe other is a portrait of Leto's father in full bull fighters attire. The story goes that the bull was apparently defeated and all but dead, and Leto's father turned his back on the animal which sprang back up and gored him to death. The bull was beheaded with the blood of Leto's father still on its horns and preserved, blood and all. The portrait and head were hung on opposite walls of the dining room of Castle Caladan for all to see: when Jessica meets Shadout Mapes, she had been tasked by Leo to see portrait and head hung in similar places in the dining hall of the Arrakeen palace.
There are some character building threads in it as well. In the book, Jessica wants to hang the set in their bedroom on Arakkis and Leto's having none of it. In the movie he uses the line "look where that got him" when Paul's says that gramps used to fight bulls for sport. Leto hated the frivolous old man while Paul idolized the charismatic leader.
Who elses movie has paul utter a DIFFERENT response when prompted "Do your dreams happen as you see them"? In this he says "yes" but in my movie he said "Not exactly"
"Let's fight like demons" is in every trailer and I don't think it was in the movie (I think the closest was someone describing the Fremen as fighting like demons)
8:13 Jessica didn't know the right words to say. She was about to say "it is a Maker of Death" but the word "Maker" is what the Fremen call the sandworms and that is what sets off the Shadout Mapes. Jessica was simply Lucky.
You can see that Jessica actually wanted to continue speaking - she even opens her mouth a little for the next word, but then stops because of Mape's reaction. Great implementation, as close to the book as possible. Really deep.
the matador and bull are symbolisms for letting life "call" to you and being patient enough to know when to strike, like in the last duel scene of the film
The matador and bull are also an analogy for Leto voluntarily stepping into the Emperor's trap on Arrakis, believing he could escape it and survive based on his own abilities. When he dies, we get a shot of the bull head mounted on the wall... just like his father, Leto was killed by a bull he couldn't quite avoid.
More small details you may have missed: - The main character is named Paul. - All the characters have arms and legs. - While there are stars in space, you don't see any stars indoors or in the food. - When a character is killed, they are no longer alive. - The title "Dune" is a subtle reference to the book which was called "Dune"
People don't read friend and for some the only parts of the movies that matter are the fight scenes. +sigh+ Ol Frank tried to make people understand certain things about ourselves as a species but clearly many folks need to be hit with a large heavy object before they get the point.
Loved the original, watched it dozens of times, now, I've watched the new dune 2021, 4 times, and I am amazingly pleased, I really hope this becomes the epic that it deserves to be
I was 10 years old when it came out I watched it on VHS so many times because I could never understand it as a small child. Then I read the books I have not seen the new Dune yet so I may watch it shortly.
"Zendaya looking Fremen girl named Chani" i dont think Looper realizes that the cast of the movie is revealed well before its release... or even realizes that Zendaya is an actress playing a role in a movie lol
To be honest, while the Butlerian Jihad is canon, I would say that Omnius is not, and you should not be referring to it. Omnius is from the novels that were not written by Frank Herbert, and the view of the Butlerian Jihad from those books may not match with how it was intended. Thinking machines were used by humans to enslave other humans, and that's why they were abolished. The original novels do not suggest that there was an actual army of robots.
The dune encyclopedia explains the jihad MUCH differently. The new books are cool but lean too much toward traditional sci-fi. More action and explanation not as much introspection of the human condition and behavior.
By the encyclopedia the Butler's child is killed or aborted by a doctor because a computer decided her child wasn't viable to live because of her age or genetic flaw the child would have had.
@@willsaunders7037 It's like a nuke. They stopped using lasguns in troop combat because of this. If you can see the shielded target you are hitting you are too close to survive. Even through a scope.
This “seeding” by the Bene Geseret and it’s “turning upon their heads,” as you so eloquently put it, is the true glory of the story. This idea that the Bene Geserit were themselves tools of an even greater scheme than their own - DAYum! It’s enough to give a person hope!
It really doesn't turn upon the Bene Gesserit though, they weather the storm of Paul's rise to power and outlast the God Emperor Leto II and the end of Fremen Culture. The BG are really playing a long game, which doesn't end with Paul.
@@johnwilson9108 They oulast the God Emperor but he still gets the last laugh "I BEQUEATH TO YOU MY FEAR AND LONELINESS" Sent shivers down my spine. The Tyrant laughs at you even from the past!
This movie was made for Dolby Cinema & IMAX, trust me that those are the absolute best formats to enjoy the film to the fullest! Saw it in Dolby and it was nothing short of amazing 👏 12/10
The other reason projectile weapons and swords are used? Is that - if a laser beam hits a shield? - there’s a limited atomic explosion: that only affects the users of each.
Interesting tidbit, early on in the pre-production of the movie they realized that erecting giant sheets of green screens in the middle of a windy desert of Jordan would be impractical. They decided to shift the green screen process to a sandy brown. That way, as long as the still suits are a distinct separate color then they can add visual effects in the background behind people or simply flowing through the desert like the sandworms.
Fun fact: Freman practice strict water discipline unless they are within the sealed protection of the sietch. Having your open mouth exposed outside is death in the desert.
Sorta like those half-visor helmets in "the Last Duel.". Didn't exist for a reason- while sometimes warriors went into combat with their faces exposed for breathing, when you did want your face protected, you wanted your whole damn face protected, not just one side.
right or reference the fact that they spray coated the horns with the fathers blood still on it.. i was frankly surprised we didnt see a bit of red on it in the movie.. and i looked closley the 3rd and 4th time i watched it lol
The Bene Gesserit dont craft primitive religions. They take the substance of a religion already in place ( in this case the Harmonthep refugee zenshiites) and insinuate prophecy potentially beneficial to a stranded sister. Catholics did this as well... if in a more rough form
God I loved this movie. I've never been interested in Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, or Game of Thrones, so I'm super excited that I finally have a nerd franchise that I'm into
@@cavemanzach9475 I promise I'm not trying to be rude, but I truly think you should change that (not being an avid reader). As for the question though: I won't lie to you, they're dense books, and Frank's writing-style is quite unique, especially if you don't read much. However, it's also thrilling and very fun to become immersed in his universe. The book has an appendix and glossary full of terms and extra information all about Arrakis, melange, the bene gesserit, etc. that flushes out the universe so much more. It will only INCREASE your enjoyment of the film(s). Heck, even if you don't read the entire novel, it could be worth a cheap buy just to look at the appendix paragraphs, maps, and glossary.
One thing the movie did that disappointed me was Paul awakening to his vision in front of Jessica before the Duke died. He knew from the second Leto died and was numb to the realization. He told Jessica and Jessica was disturbed by how cavalier Paul was about it and everything else he knew. Such as her carrying his sister Alia at that moment. He also is the one who tells her that the Baron is her father, all with the nonchalance of a psychopath. She saw cold emptiness in his eyes and a depth of spirit and wisdom that was never known of him before. He was 15 years old but it was as though he aged mentally and emotionally by leaps from that moment. He didn't accuse her of being someone who turned him into a monster. It was something she accused of herself internally
honestly i kinda liked it that way tho, it really shows the toll that the visions put on him as a person rather than it just being another part of him like an arm or a leg
I have some problems with the movie as well, and you're right that the tent scene is where he reveals Jessica's heritage, and that this was where he appears to have changed/aged, but you're just factually wrong about him being cold and not accusing Jessica. He absolutely did get angry/emotional and lash out at her, you can re-read the chapter, the last one of the first part of the novel, and it's plain as day.
I was disappointed with the representation of Jessica as a whole. Being a sister of bene gesserit and future mother revered, she did not portray any of the calm, calculating, and stoic manner I believe Frank Herbert portrayed Jessica to be. In the movie she was an anxious driven wreck. In the book she was bad ass!
8:14 I can't believe you missed it!!! Jessica's answer went incomplete, partly because she answered slowly to observe the cues on Mapes, partly because instinct and fast thinking. We can clearly see the word OF forming in her mouth after she pronounced MAKER, but she stopped upon seeing Mapes reaction. Failed to do so would mean the end of the Atreides.
@@ubabes._ Because she was about to say "a maker of death" ie, just a weapon. But the reason it is sacred is because it is the tooth of "a Maker" - one of the things the Fremen call the Sandworms. The wider universe doesn't know the worms make the spice. So it appears that Jessica knows secret facts sacred to the Fremen. This seems to confirm to Mapes the prophesies of the Lisan al-Gaib, that Jessica, a Bene Gesserit, is the mother of the Mahdi - the off-world savior of the Fremen. If Jessica had not caught herself from completing what she was going to say, she would have looked like a false prophet and earned Mapes' anger, not awe. Mapes is hoping that Jessica is the mother of the Mahdi, the knife is a kind of test and in her excitement she reacts, giving Jessica, trained to observe others enough of a clue to not finish her sentence. If the Fremen didn't believe that Paul was potentially/probably the Mahdi, then he, and House Atreides die for the water the Fremen could take from them. It's a cool scene because of how close they come to disaster; and how they are taking advantage of the seeds the Bene Gesserit planted long ago influencing Zensunni prophesy.
i think that's the point of missing details, they are in your face but you don't notice it, well, not everyone notices it. Most of them are easier to get if you read the book
4:30 leto kept the head because the bull was poisoned by his mother, who betrayed his father. A reminder that even close ones can betray you... but it didnt help him much against Dr. Yue
Actually the bull was NOT DRUGGED but rather given stimulants by the game master in the pay of the harkonnens. Leto exiled his mother because her scheming crippled the Ixian prince and killed Leto Jr. She wanted the Ixian siblings gone because Ix was a technological competitor to her own house, Richese.
You're right basically. Brian Herbert did write his own books. Rather than using his father's ideas he basically wrote what he wanted and is using his father legacy to sell books.
@@elvisfifo Jessica is about to say that the crysknife is a maker of death, but Mapes hears “maker”, which is one of the Fremen words for the sandworms, so Mapes cries out because Jessica seems to know things about the Fremen that she shouldn’t know.
@@elvisfifo It's concise enough to just quote the book directly: Slowly, Mapes reached into the neck of her dress, brought out a dark sheath. A black handle with deep finger ridges protruded from it. She took sheath in one hand and handle in the other, withdrew a milk-white blade, held it up. The blade seemed to shine and glitter with a light of its own. It was double-edged like a kindjal and the blade was perhaps twenty centimeters long. “Do you know this, my Lady?” Mapes asked. It could only be one thing, Jessica knew, the fabled crysknife of Arrakis, the blade that had never been taken off the planet, and was known only by rumor and wild gossip. “It’s a crysknife,” she said. “Say it not lightly,” Mapes said. “Do you know its meaning?” And Jessica thought: There was an edge to that question. Here’s the reason this Fremen has taken service with me, to ask that one question. My answer could precipitate violence or…what? She seeks an answer from me: the meaning of a knife. She’s called the Shadout in the Chakobsa tongue. Knife, that’s “Death Maker” in Chakobsa. She’s getting restive. I must answer now. Delay is as dangerous as the wrong answer. Jessica said: “It’s a maker-” “Eighe-e-e-e-e-e!” Mapes wailed. It was a sound of both grief and elation. She trembled so hard the knife blade sent glittering shards of reflection shooting around the room. Jessica waited, poised. She had intended to say the knife was a maker of death and then add the ancient word, but every sense warned her now, all the deep training of alertness that exposed meaning in the most casual muscle twitch. The key word was…maker. Maker? Maker. Still, Mapes held the knife as though ready to use it. Jessica said: “Did you think that I, knowing the mysteries of the Great Mother, would not know the Maker?” Mapes lowered the knife. “My Lady, when one has lived with prophecy for so long, the moment of revelation is a shock.” Jessica thought about the prophecy-the Shari-a and all the panoplia propheticus, a Bene Gesserit of the Missionaria Protectiva dropped here long centuries ago-long dead, no doubt, but her purpose accomplished: the protective legends implanted in these people against the day of a Bene Gesserit’s need.
I did try to read Dune, but never finished it. Watched the movie back in the 90s and still had no idea what it was all about. Watched the new one last week and now I understand more 😊 The latest one was indeed simpler to understand. Can't wait for part 2.
@@peterl1365 the same. I have seen Lynch's movie in 90's after it was highly recommend to me but it didn't make any kind of impression. But years after I have been reading all books (Herbert's as well as newer ones) over and over and that movie made me more sense. Newer adaptation from 2000 and 2003 was better then original version despite of low budget. the newest version is masterpiece movie
Great film! It was encouraging to see a movie house packed with people, something I haven't seen in a long time. FWIW, Paul also had mentat training from an early age, although he was unaware he was being trained. I think that training also contributed to his sensitivity to the spice.
I STILL haven't seen anyone mention that Liet-Kynes wasn't Liet-Kynes until the big reveal about the character happened. Prior to that it was Kynes the Planetologist and the rumored "Liet", a leader of the Fremen. Liet and Kynes being the same person was a surprise in the book. (An obvious one, but still played as a surprise)
@@josiah9617 That didn't matter to me. The character had no parts where being a man was important to the role so that just doesn't bug me. The actress they got was great in the part.
Yeah, I thought Liet was his sietch name. Wouldn't make sense for him to go around introducing himself as Liet Kynes. Also, his death in the book was very different, if I recall. It was the first reveal of the true nature of the spice.
@5:13 you play a clip where he responds “Yes” to the question of if things happen just as he dreams them… He does not say that in the cinema version… That is only in the trailers… he says “not exactly” in the movie.
You missed the best part, using laser weapons against shields can cause at ANY contact point a thermonuclear reaction that can be a small explosion or a freaking nuke go off.
yeah, I was horrified when they started blasting lasers on Idaho's shielded topter, and totally missed the chain reaction in his death scene... they bring the laserpal as in books, but the Idaho does not create shield trap on the other side of the door like in the book... damn shame.
one detail i found from watching the film second time is, when Dr. Liet Kynes tries to call a sandworm at the end, she held some hook like tools and was getting ready to do something, before she got ambushed. She was getting ready to ride the worm.
I think what's interesting, and part of why Dune is such a good story -- is how the Bene Gesserrit both seed concepts of false holy people but also create them. When the myth becomes legend -- is it real? This adaptation is great, but it still is moving too fast. You learn about Mapes and then you say goodbye to her. She was a huge presence in the first book.
One thing about the faith on Dune. it may have been planted, but it also has been mutated in unexpected ways because of the planet. That is a subtext of the story too.
Hold up, if a lasgun beam hit a personal shield the resulting explosion was supposed to be akin to a nuke going off. you RAAAAAAAAAAAAARELY see laser weapons used outside of the sardukar. At least that was what i was lead to believe.
A fascinating little wrinkle in Jessica's conversation with Mapes: In the book, it's clear she knows that the fabled knife of Arrakis is called a crysknife, but she doesn't seem to know it comes from sandworms. When Mapes says "do you know its meaning?" Jessica is a little stumped. She searches for words and tries to say "maker of death." But right when she says "maker," Mapes cries out, interrupting her. It was essentially luck, for the word "maker" is also a Fremen word for the sandworms. The crysknife is carved from a dead sandworm's tooth. Unbeknownst to most non-Fremen, the sandworm life cycle creates the spice. "Maker of the deep desert." Jessica, of course, takes advantage of this, chastising herself in her mind for going through with the charade, but doing it anyway. Watch the scene again an notice Jessica's startled look when Mapes interrupts her.
I like the way Dennis edited the Voice's very sound. It seems like there are other voices chanting the command, like there are many women of diferent ages speaking with her. Not the "robot voice" from Lynch's version (but also working in that context).
I love the chambord bottle (rasberry liquor) shaped scepters that the navigators hold. It reminds me of an older time in science fiction movies and series where you could clearly see that many futuristic items were in fact painted common household items. Im not shure if its intentionnal, but if it is, its a nice wink at those old movies and series!
Paul examines the bull fighting statue because in the books he is said to be much more like his grandfather than his father. He takes the risk of fighting Jamis and joining the Fremen because the safe path leads to certain outcomes while danger carves a path into the unknown.
We caught all of this. My inquiry: Were those supposed to be Bene Tlielax on Salusa Secundus, the ones adorning the Sardaukar in sacrificial blood? Thought I glimpsed a weird mutant foot similar to DeVries' "pet". Was that "pet" spider thing a Harkonnen abomination via Tlielax tech, and possibly Yueh's wife?
@@novah589 yeah you kinda get that feeling of possibility with the way the Harkonnenens were portrayed in Villeneuve's film. Which is excellent execution IMO
I think this might be overthinking the spider a bit. Baron Harkonnen is a despotic sadist with absolute authority over Geidi Prime, but even he has no power of Mohiam when she visits his world as the Emperor's envoy. The spider is an attempt at intimidating visitors and allowing the Baron to recapture the feeling that he's in charge of the situation. Most diplomats, if you put them in a room with an elk-sized spider monster, are going to want to conclude negotiations as quickly as possible so they can leave, perhaps even agreeing to less than ideal terms. But Mohiam recognizes his game and basically turns the tables on his frat-boy bullshit by demonstrating that she can voice the spider out of the room.
Most people I know who've read them enjoyed them quite a bit. I think it's really the hardliner Frank Herbert fans that don't consider them canon and, honestly, I don't know why. They were good reads, the retconning wasn't too painful.
“I recognize your footsteps old man” I loved that scene.. Great fucking movie. Wonder if we’ll see Paul fight Batista one on one in part 2. Lol I kinda hope Sting doesn’t come in to reprise his role lol
The blue eye thing is literally explained in the first five minutes of the movie, so you don't need to wait for the second movie if you paid attention to this one
To be fair, it's not super clear in the movie. The movie says "long-term exposure to spice turned their eyes blue," but that could mean that it's a genetic adaptation to the presence of spice in the environment after multi-generational exposure. So far it's only the book that spells out clearly that in-lifetime spice exposure causes the blue eyes *and* a lethal addiction to the spice.
The bull fighter represents the Atreides and the violent bull the Harkonnen. Paul’s grandfather dies due to an unnecessary fight with the bull just like Leto dies do to an unnecessary fight with the Harkonnen … voluntarily walking into a trap by moving from Caladan to Arrakis/Dune. We could take it many steps further. Paul chooses to become the Messiah, an unnecessary maneuver that will destroy him and nearly the civilized universe.
Hot take: I really really enjoyed this movie. One of the best films i've witnessed in cinemas possibly ever in my opinion. I don't understand how anyone can come out of seeing this film *just* to say negative things about it. Y'all need to check yourselves.
I had a couple gripes, I'll be honest...1st foremost. For all her training Jessica cries a whole lot more than I would have expected, her lack of composure really undermined the 'stoic Bene Gesserit' teachings. Secondly the seeming hours of fog encased scenes... felt like much of the action sequences (either ornithopter or actual combat) were either smoke/sand obscured.... the later is a small nit pick just felt it was used as 'filler' ( which the movie already did not need ).
Same; I do not understand why they keep trying to adapt Dune for conventional film when it is just way too much and way too slow to fit. The 2000 miniseries had the right idea, but not enough production budget. Get Villeneuve engaged with HBO and make a proper series. The Butlerian Jihad arc would be a fantastic, and superior, successor to Game of Thrones on the schedule as the resident fantasy political action drama.
@@vomErsten Don't think the production value will be as good as a big score movie, so I'm glad it's done this way. Just gotta be patient and we will get another LOTR level of trilogy I hope.
well the first detail of saying we missed it about computers or fighting the AI, isn't that we missed it. it's the the story didn't even tell us about it. so blame that one, on the writing of the movie.
@@undercoverss6106 I told my brothers that I felt Duncan was only supposed to die much later, but that's just because there was so much exposition in the book before that scene happened.
The religious/war chant during Sardaukar preparation was ultimate. Who were those people lying as source of blood stream? Captured enemy or the Members of the emperors blade themselves? Sometimes exposing less is a better way to tell a story
Indeed, the chant is totally awesome. Zimmer is the best! I read elsewhere that the people being drained of their blood are failed Sardaukar, which adds a level of gory detail to it (I don't remember if that's the case in the book, but I assume so).
One thing I've always wondered reading the Dune books, but have yet to hear anyone else voice, is: how did they design and build those massively complex spaceships without computers running CAD/CAM?
@@RealStuntPanda people built all kinds of crazy stuff before computers. The Dune universe is all about humanity pushing itself to physical and psychological limits of what it means to be human.
I have to admit, since I wasn't very familiar with the Dune franchise, I wasn't expecting much from this movie, but hot damn! this movie was good, even the "slow" parts were engaging and interesting. The character, the dialogue were very intermingling and kept me wanting to know more. I can't wait for part 2.
@@symbiat0 But they didn't talk about things from the books that weren't referenced in the movie. In fact they missed a glaringly obvious one by mentioning lasers and shields without mentioning catastrophic explosions.
A couple of things that are wrong in this video. When asked if his dreams often come true, Paul did not answer "Yes". He said "not really". That's because what he dreams are only potential futures and often develop differently. Second. Jessica was actually about to make a mistake when talking with the Shadout Mapes. When asked if she knew the significance of the crysknife and answered "A Maker", she was actually about to say "A maker of death". If you watch closely you can see that she was not done speaking, but was interrupted by the fervent response of the Shadout Mapes, who thought Jessica was talking about a "Maker", which is another name for a Sand Worm.
How about the "small detail" that a crysknife cannot be sheathed without drawing blood? Oops, Denis Villenueve missed that one when he had the Shaddout Mapes draw hers. A freman would never even allow an outworlder to see the blade. Blasphemy! He gets it right much later in the movie when all the fremen who drew without fighting cut their wrists before sheathing their crysknifes, and we are told they are sacred. Finally. But damn you Denis for that Mapes scene!!!
It could be an age rating issue. In Lynch's Dune the scene where Jessica cuts a wound on Shadout Mapes' chest was also dropped. However, it was later released among the extra materials as part of the deleted scenes. The theatrical release was rated PG-13 which perhaps does not allow cutting bare skin with a knife and blood gushing out. Villeneuve's Dune is also PG-13 rated. When the Fremen cut their hands in the Cave of Ridges, we cannot see any skin nor blood. Most viewers probably do not even realize what they are doing. There is not much gore anywhere in the film. When Kynes is killed there's only water bursting out of the chest. I think the only blood we see in Villeneuve's version is when Paul hallucinates about getting killed. There's blood dripping out of a Crysknife but we never see it directly cutting a human body and then getting bloodied.
@@AnttiRanta All valid points. As I recall however the crysknife is so sacred only the faithful are even allowed to see one, with just two exceptions: Fremen accept you, or you are about to be killed. Jessica as I recall from the book (it has been a while) was not even shown the blade, and Mapes told her it must never be sheathed without drawing blood. So the PG13 stuff is a distraction. I don't know why Denis decided to do this. I am certain he had a reason. Just hard to understand.
Yeah, that was the biggest oversight I saw, left if a "huh?" moment when the Fremen all drew blood after Paul's fight... Sad to see he missed a chunk of their mythology like that, but overall I thought it was a great telling of the story.
it's very subtle in the movie but paul's dreams were just dreams until he was exposed to spice.. when he got blasted by the spice when they were trying to save the harvester he went back and told jessice 'i was wide awake' ..but it's super subtle.
I feel like a lot of the detail of the book was really overlooked in the movie but that’s to be expected somewhat. I think Jessica’s character was a bit disappointing as in the book she’s far calmer and not as emotional as the movie portrayed. Overall the movie was great. I really enjoyed it despite so much detail missed and even scenes that were changed.
Damn sure was. no Benne Gesserit. When I saw her coolly kick ass in the Mission Impossible movies...I knew she would be perfect to play Paul's mother in Dune.....but Denis cast her as an anxiety ridden nervous wreck all through the movie. What was he thinking???
I think the issue is with portraying thoughts on film without just having a monologue in the background. If Jessica just stays calm and collected, the audience never knows what she's thinking and feeling and those thoughts are what is more important to the story than her being a stoic badass.
To be honest, this movie was a perfect addition to my 'Movies of Dune' list. The Lynch version is something I really enjoy. I watched it straight after reading the book as a teenager. I was excited to see it play out on screen. Even then though, I knew tech limitations prevented it from being as good as it could be. This has been something I've waited a long time for and it didn't disappoint. I can't wait to see the second part.
The Brian Herbert books are not canon and should never be misinterpreted as an extension of Frank Herbert's original work. The original Dune series stated that it was HUMANS with thinking machines that used the machines to dominate the rest of humanity, and had eventually led to the Butlerian Jihad. It was an extension of Frank Herbert's message to not rely on other people or technologies because it builds a dependency to them.
Personal shields don't protect against lasers, they cause a chain reaction that's guaranteed to obliterate the shielded, the attack, and probably most people in their vicinity
The sandworms give off a static charge that extends for kilometers around them. This charge looses up the sand and allows them to glide through it like water. It also is the reason why they are able to detect rhythmic vibrations from the smallest objects on the surface of the desert.
thanks for this, i was wondering how they move around
@Nuby There is a lot that is not shown in this hack job of a film titled Dune. This AIN'T no Dune of mine... HMMPF!!!
@@Bronwyn031 You're welcome to produce something more fitting with your vision of Dune. Let us know when it's ready!
@@emphasize-ek Go fund me, maybe? 😂
@Nuby The sand became loose every time the worms got near, every time in the film everything sunk as a worm approached.
Duncan is more than gifted. He single-handedly took down 19 of the emperor's Sardaukar while buying Paul and Jessica time to escape into the desert.
He also knitted Paul mittens.😯🙄
And we are waiting for the Ghola-Mentat-Bashar... :P
He was a swordmaster and they were just troops trained in a harsh environment. He had skill, they had numbers.
@@usalscorner He had honor, they felt his swift blade ✊
@@WalterLoggetti I'm waiting for the train that'll take me there. I hope it has a dining car.
The bulls head was THE bull that killed Leto's father...the horns were sprayed with fixative to preserve the blood on them (per the book)
THANK YOU! I was looking for this comment; it was the detail THEY missed. 😂
@@vivicadoll249 yeah all of these facts are... uh... extremely surface level, so I am not surprised they missed it.
but WHERE did he fight a bull?
Thank you, i needed this comment
@@cmanmaxwell Other than the House Atreides homeworld of Caladan, I don't remember if it ever said. Remember, this is Paul's Grandfather so they may have had an arena where ritual feats like bullfighting took place, and even the Duke amy enter if he wishes. I don't think Paul or his Father ever did, though.
Small correction: a hunter seeker doesn't use poison it actually burrows into the body and pierces any vital organs it can find.
Why didn't the hunter seeker kill Paul?
@@keshavnittin3828 It can only detect motion, and Paul camouflaged himself in the hologram.
@@CIinbox oh
I liked how over the course of the film, Paul saw a lot of Muad’Dib, the desert mouse that can survive for long periods out in the desert. Really gives him a reason to eventually take the name Muad’Dib when he joins the fremen (he’s not very physically imposing, but he’s able to survive the desert)
Thanks for the spoiler beech
@@shreyasrd2034 Its a 50 year old book, not much spoiling involved.
This movie is pure GARBAGE. Have one DUNA MOVIE. In 80s.
@ I disagree, but I respect your opinion
Fought well for a boy. Quicker
Not all of Paul's dreams come to life, they are only potential futures that may happen or not depending on his decisions, for example he dreamt of befriending Jamis but that never happened as Paul ends up killing him in the duel.
That's what I thought, I'm assuming these visions will keep the viewer and plot still in question (unless you read the books and watched the 84' Dune). It was a nice touch by the director and writers.
I assume that the dream was symbolic because Jamie says he will teach Paul, and at his funeral Paul says Janis taught him about showing respect when you take a life, and the other Fremen are impressed that he’ll shed water (tears) for a slain enemy.
No, like they said before me, also take into account the vision when Paul dies, he didn't die literally, they said when you take a life you take your own too, so Paul died in the dream and he died when he killed
@@glacialimpala That's part of it, the vision was also a potential alternate timeline wherein Javis kills Paul and that helps show that this is the one moment that Paul has to deprive the future of the holy war that he has foreseen, hence the emphasis on that moment, the moment that paul first kills, the moment the Kwisatz Haderach arises.
When they Still Jamis, he is able to say he was a friend of Jamis. Remember "Follow the Friend!" when he is guided by Jamis on numerous times.
Denis Villeneuve is a genius - his vision of Dune is 10/10… a modern sci-fi masterpiece
10000000% AGREE
I too thought it was brilliant.
Absolutely agree. It’s a masterpiece. Better than I was expecting and I had very high expectations.
@@SMSCOOBY71 Are you drunk? There are many criticisms to be had about this movie, but the look and feel of it are easily the best parts of this movie, it's one of the more cinematic movies to have come out this year.
I did love the visuals, and again, light years beyond anything else.
5:06 "Do you often dream things that happen, just as you dreamed them?" "Yes."
He says, "Not exactly," in the actual movie.
They changed a few things from the trailer. Duncan in the trailer says "lets fight like demons" but in the movie hes describing the fremen "they fight like demons"
This movie was by far my favorite movie that's come out this year. Very well written and easy to follow despite the entire film being in the desert like planet it keeps you completely interested in the story. I love it and can't wait for part 2
I am absolutely biased by loving the books so much, but this is my favorite movie in the last several years.
The matrix is coming up
"Jessica knows the right words to say to set Shadout Mapes wailing" XD Nooooo she didn't, I thought that was actually a nice nod to that part in the book... she didn't know exactly what to say, hence signaling her guard to be prepared for violence because she was worried she might get it wrong... she was 100% feeling and guessing her way through the conversation and started to call the crysknife a "maker of death", but when Mapes heard "maker" she thought Jessica was about to say something about *the* Makers (sandworms) and Jessica picked up that "maker" must be a key word and didn't finish her sentence.
Holy shit... someone that actually read the book...
Yeah, lost on people who didn't read.
This deserves a Like
Anyone else find it really annoying when people use "shadout" as Mapes' first name? She is "the shadout" Mapes. I had to look up what "shadout" meant, but I at least remembered that it was a title.
@@peterl1365 - Liet also was a title.
I've always been of the opinion that Dune needed to be an HBO (or other streaming service) series akin to Game of Thrones. There is WAY too much story to adapt as a movie, even a two part movie. That said, Villeneuve's version was about as good as possible given the time limitations he has to work with
Dune as a series would be incredibly slow in the middle of the season though.
I'd love to get my hands on the director's cut or some extra scenes on DVD. Apparently there is a scene where Gurny is singing.
if the movie does well, expect a series on HBO MAX
well they've already green lighted the sequel so it wouldn't be surprising if they went ahead and made a few more than the trilogy planned.
@@sonvult583 hopefully so, there is so much material to mine from the series. Although God Emperor is my favorite of the series, I’m not sure if would work from a cinematic (I don’t mean CGI) perspective
It might be my ADHD, but Dune has quickly become my new hyper fixation. I want to go back and read the books again.
You missed the small copy of the Orange Catholic Bible that Gurney was reading when arriving on the transport ship and all the small quotes from it peppered throughout the film by various characters.
For those who only watch the movie and haven't read the book...
There is more to the stuffed bull's head, being just one half of a pair of pieces. THe other is a portrait of Leto's father in full bull fighters attire. The story goes that the bull was apparently defeated and all but dead, and Leto's father turned his back on the animal which sprang back up and gored him to death. The bull was beheaded with the blood of Leto's father still on its horns and preserved, blood and all. The portrait and head were hung on opposite walls of the dining room of Castle Caladan for all to see: when Jessica meets Shadout Mapes, she had been tasked by Leo to see portrait and head hung in similar places in the dining hall of the Arrakeen palace.
There are some character building threads in it as well. In the book, Jessica wants to hang the set in their bedroom on Arakkis and Leto's having none of it. In the movie he uses the line "look where that got him" when Paul's says that gramps used to fight bulls for sport. Leto hated the frivolous old man while Paul idolized the charismatic leader.
I wonder if this event also influenced Master Gurney to develop the advice he always remind Paul, the "don't turn your back on the door".
Who elses movie has paul utter a DIFFERENT response when prompted "Do your dreams happen as you see them"?
In this he says "yes"
but in my movie he said "Not exactly"
He said that in mine as well. Maybe it's old footage?
I think they probably just changed it for the trailer, since Yes sounds a bit more intriguing than Not exactly ... lol
@@amelieb1013 "did the trailer happen as you saw it?"
not exactly
Yes it was changed. I do prefer yes
"Let's fight like demons" is in every trailer and I don't think it was in the movie (I think the closest was someone describing the Fremen as fighting like demons)
Small detail you missed in Dune: literally the first thing we learned about the Fremen
Came here to comment this... A lot of this stuff is outright explained to us in the film via filmbooks or dialogue
Which was what?
@@davidcline471 Blue eyes due to spice consumption.
@@Netsuko you think people missed the blue eyes? Kind of hard to do that, isn't it?
😂😂😂😂😂 yes lol
8:13 Jessica didn't know the right words to say. She was about to say "it is a Maker of Death" but the word "Maker" is what the Fremen call the sandworms and that is what sets off the Shadout Mapes.
Jessica was simply Lucky.
True, but she knew enough to notice Mapes' reaction to her word choice and to be silent so she could read the situation more deeply.
You can see that Jessica actually wanted to continue speaking - she even opens her mouth a little for the next word, but then stops because of Mape's reaction. Great implementation, as close to the book as possible. Really deep.
the matador and bull are symbolisms for letting life "call" to you and being patient enough to know when to strike, like in the last duel scene of the film
Wow, the matador and bull are literally call backs to Paulus's bullfighting pastime....
@@kennethmory1803 It's an interesting theme to play up in the narrative, and a fun one to make use of.
The matador and bull are also an analogy for Leto voluntarily stepping into the Emperor's trap on Arrakis, believing he could escape it and survive based on his own abilities. When he dies, we get a shot of the bull head mounted on the wall... just like his father, Leto was killed by a bull he couldn't quite avoid.
@@easypistachios7 That is quite the astute observation, and I like it.
I always liked that the dune games gave the Harkonnen the Bulls head as their house symbol, given its symbolic nature to the death of the old duke.
More small details you may have missed:
- The main character is named Paul.
- All the characters have arms and legs.
- While there are stars in space, you don't see any stars indoors or in the food.
- When a character is killed, they are no longer alive.
- The title "Dune" is a subtle reference to the book which was called "Dune"
Sandworms are called sandworms because they're worms who live in the sand.
People don't read friend and for some the only parts of the movies that matter are the fight scenes. +sigh+ Ol Frank tried to make people understand certain things about ourselves as a species but clearly many folks need to be hit with a large heavy object before they get the point.
exactly
@@stephenie9015 You can thank Marvel for cranking out CGI crack every month for years. People just want a show with no nuances
😂😂😂😂😂
My “spice” just makes my eyes red. 😂
😂🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣!
Hey me too 😍
Nice 👌
The "spice" must flow!
Loved the original, watched it dozens of times, now, I've watched the new dune 2021, 4 times, and I am amazingly pleased, I really hope this becomes the epic that it deserves to be
I was 10 years old when it came out I watched it on VHS so many times because I could never understand it as a small child. Then I read the books I have not seen the new Dune yet so I may watch it shortly.
@@JK-dn4pu I watched it twice now its super dope
Damn did you sleep at all. 4 times
@@MsTheLounge 2 times the first night, and twice last night, slept most of yesterday in-between. Lol. Totally worth it tho
@@Jaysin412 idk if it was worth it , barely finished it once
"The Zendaya looking Chani girl"
Who writes these narration scripts?!
Lmao what a weird way to say Zendaya's character named Chani
True that was so jarring
"Zendaya looking Fremen girl named Chani" i dont think Looper realizes that the cast of the movie is revealed well before its release... or even realizes that Zendaya is an actress playing a role in a movie lol
@@midnick2159 In short, they are dumbasses. Overpaid dumbasses.
woooosh
To be honest, while the Butlerian Jihad is canon, I would say that Omnius is not, and you should not be referring to it. Omnius is from the novels that were not written by Frank Herbert, and the view of the Butlerian Jihad from those books may not match with how it was intended. Thinking machines were used by humans to enslave other humans, and that's why they were abolished. The original novels do not suggest that there was an actual army of robots.
The dune encyclopedia explains the jihad MUCH differently. The new books are cool but lean too much toward traditional sci-fi. More action and explanation not as much introspection of the human condition and behavior.
By the encyclopedia the Butler's child is killed or aborted by a doctor because a computer decided her child wasn't viable to live because of her age or genetic flaw the child would have had.
Yes kind of like Facebook and other Social Media is used to make us dumb and stop thinking for ourselves.
@@cryxkirkley The Dune Encyclopedia is even less canon than Brian Herberts books.
@@mat6114 you think? Brian Herbert was alive and contributed when it was written.
“While the personal shields they use are good for deflecting laser weapons.”
Lol. Good one, Looper.
If only they knew... :D
Yeah doesn’t it create like an insane explosion?
@@willsaunders7037 It's like a nuke. They stopped using lasguns in troop combat because of this. If you can see the shielded target you are hitting you are too close to survive. Even through a scope.
@@willsaunders7037 yep. It explodes both the shield and the lasgun.
@@willsaunders7037 If you're lucky, it only kills the shield user and lasgun user.
This “seeding” by the Bene Geseret and it’s “turning upon their heads,” as you so eloquently put it, is the true glory of the story. This idea that the Bene Geserit were themselves tools of an even greater scheme than their own - DAYum! It’s enough to give a person hope!
In the end the Fremen are still also victims of the Bene Geseret missionara protectiva though. It's not like they get the last laugh really.
It really doesn't turn upon the Bene Gesserit though, they weather the storm of Paul's rise to power and outlast the God Emperor Leto II and the end of Fremen Culture. The BG are really playing a long game, which doesn't end with Paul.
@@johnwilson9108 They oulast the God Emperor but he still gets the last laugh
"I BEQUEATH TO YOU MY FEAR AND LONELINESS"
Sent shivers down my spine. The Tyrant laughs at you even from the past!
This movie was made for Dolby Cinema & IMAX, trust me that those are the absolute best formats to enjoy the film to the fullest! Saw it in Dolby and it was nothing short of amazing 👏 12/10
Bruh i know. Dune in Dolby Atmos is next level. Hans Zimmer did his muhfuqqin thang in this movie.
Great! I will go!
The soundtrack was amazing in IMAX
The other reason projectile weapons and swords are used? Is that - if a laser beam hits a shield? - there’s a limited atomic explosion: that only affects the users of each.
3:39 Harkon is a Nordic word for "bull", so it's also symbolism of the fight against the Harkonnen house.
You could also say that Leto was toting with the idea of taking power away from his enemies the harkonens. "Fighting the bull" as it were
Wow I did not know that. I makes sense that the symbolizm of the bull and the matador fits with Harkonen and Atreides houses.
@@SCBiscuit13 Hawk vs. Bull. That would make an interesting fight, wouldn’t it?
@@RicCrouch We get a mouse vs a bull in the second part. I find it to be way better :)
Oooo. Good detail. That’s fascinating.
Interesting tidbit, early on in the pre-production of the movie they realized that erecting giant sheets of green screens in the middle of a windy desert of Jordan would be impractical. They decided to shift the green screen process to a sandy brown. That way, as long as the still suits are a distinct separate color then they can add visual effects in the background behind people or simply flowing through the desert like the sandworms.
Fun fact: Freman practice strict water discipline unless they are within the sealed protection of the sietch. Having your open mouth exposed outside is death in the desert.
Sorta like those half-visor helmets in "the Last Duel.". Didn't exist for a reason- while sometimes warriors went into combat with their faces exposed for breathing, when you did want your face protected, you wanted your whole damn face protected, not just one side.
3:05 - Gurney used the move that Paul uses later in the film. This is where Paul learned it. Trying not to spoil it.
Yeah. That stings.
How can you vlog a review of the show and NOT know about the bull that Leto's father was gored by. They mounted it's head.
right or reference the fact that they spray coated the horns with the fathers blood still on it.. i was frankly surprised we didnt see a bit of red on it in the movie.. and i looked closley the 3rd and 4th time i watched it lol
Whoa i didnt realize the witches crafted primitive religions like the fremen have, dune just keeps getting deeper and better
The Bene Gesserit dont craft primitive religions. They take the substance of a religion already in place ( in this case the Harmonthep refugee zenshiites) and insinuate prophecy potentially beneficial to a stranded sister. Catholics did this as well... if in a more rough form
@@kennethmory1803 awsome, thank u
@@kennethmory1803 *Zensunni ...
God I loved this movie. I've never been interested in Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, or Game of Thrones, so I'm super excited that I finally have a nerd franchise that I'm into
Please read the books.
@@Dune571 i'm not an avid reader, are they tough books to get into?
@@cavemanzach9475 I promise I'm not trying to be rude, but I truly think you should change that (not being an avid reader).
As for the question though: I won't lie to you, they're dense books, and Frank's writing-style is quite unique, especially if you don't read much. However, it's also thrilling and very fun to become immersed in his universe. The book has an appendix and glossary full of terms and extra information all about Arrakis, melange, the bene gesserit, etc. that flushes out the universe so much more. It will only INCREASE your enjoyment of the film(s). Heck, even if you don't read the entire novel, it could be worth a cheap buy just to look at the appendix paragraphs, maps, and glossary.
@@cavemanzach9475 Be prepared to wade through many chapters of world-building before the fun begins
One thing the movie did that disappointed me was Paul awakening to his vision in front of Jessica before the Duke died. He knew from the second Leto died and was numb to the realization. He told Jessica and Jessica was disturbed by how cavalier Paul was about it and everything else he knew. Such as her carrying his sister Alia at that moment. He also is the one who tells her that the Baron is her father, all with the nonchalance of a psychopath.
She saw cold emptiness in his eyes and a depth of spirit and wisdom that was never known of him before. He was 15 years old but it was as though he aged mentally and emotionally by leaps from that moment.
He didn't accuse her of being someone who turned him into a monster. It was something she accused of herself internally
Movie sucked.
@@poorchristopher15 tf
honestly i kinda liked it that way tho, it really shows the toll that the visions put on him as a person rather than it just being another part of him like an arm or a leg
I have some problems with the movie as well, and you're right that the tent scene is where he reveals Jessica's heritage, and that this was where he appears to have changed/aged, but you're just factually wrong about him being cold and not accusing Jessica. He absolutely did get angry/emotional and lash out at her, you can re-read the chapter, the last one of the first part of the novel, and it's plain as day.
I was disappointed with the representation of Jessica as a whole. Being a sister of bene gesserit and future mother revered, she did not portray any of the calm, calculating, and stoic manner I believe Frank Herbert portrayed Jessica to be. In the movie she was an anxious driven wreck. In the book she was bad ass!
8:14 I can't believe you missed it!!!
Jessica's answer went incomplete, partly because she answered slowly to observe the cues on Mapes, partly because instinct and fast thinking. We can clearly see the word OF forming in her mouth after she pronounced MAKER, but she stopped upon seeing Mapes reaction. Failed to do so would mean the end of the Atreides.
Can u explain why MAKER and OF are important? Also why it would mean the end for house atreides
@@ubabes._ Because she was about to say "a maker of death" ie, just a weapon. But the reason it is sacred is because it is the tooth of "a Maker" - one of the things the Fremen call the Sandworms. The wider universe doesn't know the worms make the spice. So it appears that Jessica knows secret facts sacred to the Fremen. This seems to confirm to Mapes the prophesies of the Lisan al-Gaib, that Jessica, a Bene Gesserit, is the mother of the Mahdi - the off-world savior of the Fremen.
If Jessica had not caught herself from completing what she was going to say, she would have looked like a false prophet and earned Mapes' anger, not awe.
Mapes is hoping that Jessica is the mother of the Mahdi, the knife is a kind of test and in her excitement she reacts, giving Jessica, trained to observe others enough of a clue to not finish her sentence.
If the Fremen didn't believe that Paul was potentially/probably the Mahdi, then he, and House Atreides die for the water the Fremen could take from them.
It's a cool scene because of how close they come to disaster; and how they are taking advantage of the seeds the Bene Gesserit planted long ago influencing Zensunni prophesy.
This channel doesn’t even know what to make anymore. How does anyone miss these things, they’re literally in your face
i think that's the point of missing details, they are in your face but you don't notice it, well, not everyone notices it. Most of them are easier to get if you read the book
Or if you've at least read one of the books
4:30 leto kept the head because the bull was poisoned by his mother, who betrayed his father. A reminder that even close ones can betray you... but it didnt help him much against Dr. Yue
Actually the bull was NOT DRUGGED but rather given stimulants by the game master in the pay of the harkonnens. Leto exiled his mother because her scheming crippled the Ixian prince and killed Leto Jr. She wanted the Ixian siblings gone because Ix was a technological competitor to her own house, Richese.
@@kennethmory1803 - That's Feyd vs the gladiator...
@@kennethmory1803 arent stimulants = drugs?
Actually the war WASN'T against AI going rogue, it was against PEOPLE that used AI and robots to enslave other people
You're right basically. Brian Herbert did write his own books. Rather than using his father's ideas he basically wrote what he wanted and is using his father legacy to sell books.
And "enslave" here doesn't necessarily mean literal enslavement even. More like humans becoming replaceable cogs in automation.
@@int19h yes
I kinda wonder if pre Butlarian Jihad was a blend of Gattaca and The Culture Novels.
It’s not explained in the movie, but when Mapes wails, it was a result of Jessica stumbling into secret knowledge.
Book accurate
Jessica is about to say "Maker of death," but is cut short by Mapes' wail.
I didn't get this, care to explain more?
@@elvisfifo Jessica is about to say that the crysknife is a maker of death, but Mapes hears “maker”, which is one of the Fremen words for the sandworms, so Mapes cries out because Jessica seems to know things about the Fremen that she shouldn’t know.
@@elvisfifo It's concise enough to just quote the book directly:
Slowly, Mapes reached into the neck of her dress, brought out a dark sheath. A black handle with deep finger ridges protruded from it. She took sheath in one hand and handle in the other, withdrew a milk-white blade, held it up. The blade seemed to shine and glitter with a light of its own. It was double-edged like a kindjal and the blade was perhaps twenty centimeters long.
“Do you know this, my Lady?” Mapes asked.
It could only be one thing, Jessica knew, the fabled crysknife of Arrakis, the blade that had never been taken off the planet, and was known only by rumor and wild gossip.
“It’s a crysknife,” she said.
“Say it not lightly,” Mapes said. “Do you know its meaning?”
And Jessica thought: There was an edge to that question. Here’s the reason this Fremen has taken service with me, to ask that one question. My answer could precipitate violence or…what? She seeks an answer from me: the meaning of a knife. She’s called the Shadout in the Chakobsa tongue. Knife, that’s “Death Maker” in Chakobsa. She’s getting restive. I must answer now. Delay is as dangerous as the wrong answer. Jessica said: “It’s a maker-”
“Eighe-e-e-e-e-e!” Mapes wailed. It was a sound of both grief and elation. She trembled so hard the knife blade sent glittering shards of reflection shooting around the room.
Jessica waited, poised. She had intended to say the knife was a maker of death and then add the ancient word, but every sense warned her now, all the deep training of alertness that exposed meaning in the most casual muscle twitch.
The key word was…maker. Maker? Maker. Still, Mapes held the knife as though ready to use it.
Jessica said: “Did you think that I, knowing the mysteries of the Great Mother, would not know the Maker?”
Mapes lowered the knife. “My Lady, when one has lived with prophecy for so long, the moment of revelation is a shock.”
Jessica thought about the prophecy-the Shari-a and all the panoplia propheticus, a Bene Gesserit of the Missionaria Protectiva dropped here long centuries ago-long dead, no doubt, but her purpose accomplished: the protective legends implanted in these people against the day of a Bene Gesserit’s need.
Atreides isn’t “House of the Bull.” Their logo is a hawk.
They have it as a symbol as a descendants of King Agamemnon, so basically they are Spartans.
I did try to read Dune, but never finished it.
Watched the movie back in the 90s and still had no idea what it was all about.
Watched the new one last week and now I understand more 😊
The latest one was indeed simpler to understand.
Can't wait for part 2.
I read the book because I couldn't understand the movie the first time I saw it.
@@peterl1365 the same. I have seen Lynch's movie in 90's after it was highly recommend to me but it didn't make any kind of impression. But years after I have been reading all books (Herbert's as well as newer ones) over and over and that movie made me more sense. Newer adaptation from 2000 and 2003 was better then original version despite of low budget. the newest version is masterpiece movie
Great film! It was encouraging to see a movie house packed with people, something I haven't seen in a long time. FWIW, Paul also had mentat training from an early age, although he was unaware he was being trained. I think that training also contributed to his sensitivity to the spice.
I STILL haven't seen anyone mention that Liet-Kynes wasn't Liet-Kynes until the big reveal about the character happened. Prior to that it was Kynes the Planetologist and the rumored "Liet", a leader of the Fremen. Liet and Kynes being the same person was a surprise in the book. (An obvious one, but still played as a surprise)
He was also a man
@@josiah9617 That didn't matter to me. The character had no parts where being a man was important to the role so that just doesn't bug me. The actress they got was great in the part.
Liet Kynes, as all disposable characters, wasn't really developed in this movie (despite much air time). Also missing: mentats & the Baron
@@coachhannah2403 Nothing was missing and Kynes was developed fine. Goodbye.
Yeah, I thought Liet was his sietch name. Wouldn't make sense for him to go around introducing himself as Liet Kynes. Also, his death in the book was very different, if I recall. It was the first reveal of the true nature of the spice.
@5:13 you play a clip where he responds “Yes” to the question of if things happen just as he dreams them… He does not say that in the cinema version… That is only in the trailers… he says “not exactly” in the movie.
I was scrolling the comments to see if this was already mentioned! I thought maybe I misremembered it. Good to know I'm not crazy.
You missed the best part, using laser weapons against shields can cause at ANY contact point a thermonuclear reaction that can be a small explosion or a freaking nuke go off.
yeah, I was horrified when they started blasting lasers on Idaho's shielded topter, and totally missed the chain reaction in his death scene... they bring the laserpal as in books, but the Idaho does not create shield trap on the other side of the door like in the book... damn shame.
one detail i found from watching the film second time is, when Dr. Liet Kynes tries to call a sandworm at the end, she held some hook like tools and was getting ready to do something, before she got ambushed. She was getting ready to ride the worm.
I think what's interesting, and part of why Dune is such a good story -- is how the Bene Gesserrit both seed concepts of false holy people but also create them. When the myth becomes legend -- is it real? This adaptation is great, but it still is moving too fast. You learn about Mapes and then you say goodbye to her. She was a huge presence in the first book.
I have the books several times. Seeing the movie this past weekend left me wanting more. It was a GREAT experience.
One thing about the faith on Dune. it may have been planted, but it also has been mutated in unexpected ways because of the planet. That is a subtext of the story too.
Hold up, if a lasgun beam hit a personal shield the resulting explosion was supposed to be akin to a nuke going off. you RAAAAAAAAAAAAARELY see laser weapons used outside of the sardukar. At least that was what i was lead to believe.
A fascinating little wrinkle in Jessica's conversation with Mapes: In the book, it's clear she knows that the fabled knife of Arrakis is called a crysknife, but she doesn't seem to know it comes from sandworms. When Mapes says "do you know its meaning?" Jessica is a little stumped. She searches for words and tries to say "maker of death." But right when she says "maker," Mapes cries out, interrupting her. It was essentially luck, for the word "maker" is also a Fremen word for the sandworms. The crysknife is carved from a dead sandworm's tooth. Unbeknownst to most non-Fremen, the sandworm life cycle creates the spice. "Maker of the deep desert." Jessica, of course, takes advantage of this, chastising herself in her mind for going through with the charade, but doing it anyway. Watch the scene again an notice Jessica's startled look when Mapes interrupts her.
I like the way Dennis edited the Voice's very sound. It seems like there are other voices chanting the command, like there are many women of diferent ages speaking with her. Not the "robot voice" from Lynch's version (but also working in that context).
“Those bird like planes...”
You mean the aircraft that look exactly like dragonflies?
Paul's eyes are not brown they are green. So are Timmy's eyes. With gold flakes.
I love the chambord bottle (rasberry liquor) shaped scepters that the navigators hold. It reminds me of an older time in science fiction movies and series where you could clearly see that many futuristic items were in fact painted common household items. Im not shure if its intentionnal, but if it is, its a nice wink at those old movies and series!
I thought the navigators weren’t shown in the new film ?
i wouldn't say computers are banned, artificial intelligences are banned.
Like “Battlestar Galactica” post Cylon war
No, anything with more computing power than the Apollo capsule is forbidden by the Butlerian structures outlined in the Orange Catholic Bible.
Paul examines the bull fighting statue because in the books he is said to be much more like his grandfather than his father. He takes the risk of fighting Jamis and joining the Fremen because the safe path leads to certain outcomes while danger carves a path into the unknown.
We caught all of this. My inquiry: Were those supposed to be Bene Tlielax on Salusa Secundus, the ones adorning the Sardaukar in sacrificial blood? Thought I glimpsed a weird mutant foot similar to DeVries' "pet". Was that "pet" spider thing a Harkonnen abomination via Tlielax tech, and possibly Yueh's wife?
Yeah i thought it might have been Yueh's wife too
@@gerardjoaquino8856 Oh man that just makes it even more twisted if true.
@@novah589 yeah you kinda get that feeling of possibility with the way the Harkonnenens were portrayed in Villeneuve's film. Which is excellent execution IMO
I think this might be overthinking the spider a bit. Baron Harkonnen is a despotic sadist with absolute authority over Geidi Prime, but even he has no power of Mohiam when she visits his world as the Emperor's envoy. The spider is an attempt at intimidating visitors and allowing the Baron to recapture the feeling that he's in charge of the situation. Most diplomats, if you put them in a room with an elk-sized spider monster, are going to want to conclude negotiations as quickly as possible so they can leave, perhaps even agreeing to less than ideal terms. But Mohiam recognizes his game and basically turns the tables on his frat-boy bullshit by demonstrating that she can voice the spider out of the room.
@@rossvolkmann1161 This. This is the best explanation i've seen
We don’t talk about the Brian Herbert books. Most fans don’t consider them canon.
Most people I know who've read them enjoyed them quite a bit. I think it's really the hardliner Frank Herbert fans that don't consider them canon and, honestly, I don't know why. They were good reads, the retconning wasn't too painful.
If you’ve enjoyed Dune but never watched The Expanse, you are missing out on some great sci-if.
Yes, I instantly thought Dune would have been great in long form like The Expanse is!
Very well done. Can't wait for Part 2.
It's the head of the bull that killed he Duke's father. The book also mentions how it's horns are still stained with his blood.
One of the BEST "fill-in-the-blanks" videos about DUNE for those who are not familiar with the book!! Can't wait to see what you do with Part 2.
He's not the Messiah! He's a very naughty boy!
This is the film that deserves a second watch in even bigger cinema.
Just came out of this movie and I think I finally started understanding it within the last 5 minutes
Such. An absolute amazing movie! My new favorite for sound score, dialog, enchanting thoughtfulness, emotional whiplash and visuals.
this vid should be titled, “things you missed because you haven’t read the books”
Ty
“I recognize your footsteps old man” I loved that scene.. Great fucking movie. Wonder if we’ll see Paul fight Batista one on one in part 2. Lol I kinda hope Sting doesn’t come in to reprise his role lol
the novel is one of the best pieces of fiction I have ever read
the way human nature is present at the forefront is the best thing about the series
I liked that they put in some development in the Artreides logo. Compare the old eagle in The sigil-ring and the attacking eagle on the lapels…
The blue eye thing is literally explained in the first five minutes of the movie, so you don't need to wait for the second movie if you paid attention to this one
To be fair, it's not super clear in the movie. The movie says "long-term exposure to spice turned their eyes blue," but that could mean that it's a genetic adaptation to the presence of spice in the environment after multi-generational exposure. So far it's only the book that spells out clearly that in-lifetime spice exposure causes the blue eyes *and* a lethal addiction to the spice.
The bull fighter represents the Atreides and the violent bull the Harkonnen. Paul’s grandfather dies due to an unnecessary fight with the bull just like Leto dies do to an unnecessary fight with the Harkonnen … voluntarily walking into a trap by moving from Caladan to Arrakis/Dune.
We could take it many steps further. Paul chooses to become the Messiah, an unnecessary maneuver that will destroy him and nearly the civilized universe.
Hot take: I really really enjoyed this movie. One of the best films i've witnessed in cinemas possibly ever in my opinion.
I don't understand how anyone can come out of seeing this film *just* to say negative things about it. Y'all need to check yourselves.
I had a couple gripes, I'll be honest...1st foremost. For all her training Jessica cries a whole lot more than I would have expected, her lack of composure really undermined the 'stoic Bene Gesserit' teachings. Secondly the seeming hours of fog encased scenes... felt like much of the action sequences (either ornithopter or actual combat) were either smoke/sand obscured.... the later is a small nit pick just felt it was used as 'filler' ( which the movie already did not need ).
She was only an acolyte, not a full reverend mother but should still have been more composed in several scenes . . .
Omg no a hunter seeker can't get through a shield. 🤦 Kinda why Paul was so mad at himself that his was on his bed.
A small detail that can be escaped, is that Duncan wears an antigravity belt
... like the Baron's
I kinda wish this was a show. So we'd get more time n sooner in this universe
Same; I do not understand why they keep trying to adapt Dune for conventional film when it is just way too much and way too slow to fit. The 2000 miniseries had the right idea, but not enough production budget. Get Villeneuve engaged with HBO and make a proper series. The Butlerian Jihad arc would be a fantastic, and superior, successor to Game of Thrones on the schedule as the resident fantasy political action drama.
@@vomErsten Don't think the production value will be as good as a big score movie, so I'm glad it's done this way. Just gotta be patient and we will get another LOTR level of trilogy I hope.
“I wanted to be a pilot.”
- Po Damoran
A galaxy far, far away…
And don’t worry, Jason will be back after being cloned 😉
Dune: "Our vehicles fire missiles but we fight each other with sharp things"
Batman: "Don't we all?"
well the first detail of saying we missed it about computers or fighting the AI, isn't that we missed it. it's the the story didn't even tell us about it. so blame that one, on the writing of the movie.
Not everything has to be spoon fed to the audience if they did exposition for everything the movie will be 5 hours long
@@undercoverss6106 I told my brothers that I felt Duncan was only supposed to die much later, but that's just because there was so much exposition in the book before that scene happened.
The religious/war chant during Sardaukar preparation was ultimate.
Who were those people lying as source of blood stream? Captured enemy or the
Members of the emperors blade themselves?
Sometimes exposing less is a better way to tell a story
Indeed, the chant is totally awesome. Zimmer is the best! I read elsewhere that the people being drained of their blood are failed Sardaukar, which adds a level of gory detail to it (I don't remember if that's the case in the book, but I assume so).
One thing I've always wondered reading the Dune books, but have yet to hear anyone else voice, is: how did they design and build those massively complex spaceships without computers running CAD/CAM?
I presume mentats can do the calculations and modelling necessary
@@e2strom There's also the M in CAM: manufacturing. Spaceships would need to be built to rigorously exacting standards.
@@dinadanalcedines628 Yep, the Ixians have computers, it's how they built the no-ships. Also the Bene Gesserit use them to track genealogies.
@@RealStuntPanda people built all kinds of crazy stuff before computers. The Dune universe is all about humanity pushing itself to physical and psychological limits of what it means to be human.
@@e2strom Good point but they didn't build massive interstellar spaceships. Though to your point the processes could be managed by mentats.
I have to admit, since I wasn't very familiar with the Dune franchise, I wasn't expecting much from this movie, but hot damn! this movie was good, even the "slow" parts were engaging and interesting. The character, the dialogue were very intermingling and kept me wanting to know more. I can't wait for part 2.
"Small details you may have missed*
No, these were all very obvious.
All in the books
I've never read the books and they're still obvious.
There’s stuff in the books that are never referenced in the movie, so some stuff missing anyway.
@@symbiat0 But they didn't talk about things from the books that weren't referenced in the movie. In fact they missed a glaringly obvious one by mentioning lasers and shields without mentioning catastrophic explosions.
0:36 when you forget the word “dragon fly”
Small details that this channel missed in Dune: doing their research
A couple of things that are wrong in this video. When asked if his dreams often come true, Paul did not answer "Yes". He said "not really". That's because what he dreams are only potential futures and often develop differently.
Second. Jessica was actually about to make a mistake when talking with the Shadout Mapes. When asked if she knew the significance of the crysknife and answered "A Maker", she was actually about to say "A maker of death". If you watch closely you can see that she was not done speaking, but was interrupted by the fervent response of the Shadout Mapes, who thought Jessica was talking about a "Maker", which is another name for a Sand Worm.
How about the "small detail" that a crysknife cannot be sheathed without drawing blood? Oops, Denis Villenueve missed that one when he had the Shaddout Mapes draw hers. A freman would never even allow an outworlder to see the blade. Blasphemy! He gets it right much later in the movie when all the fremen who drew without fighting cut their wrists before sheathing their crysknifes, and we are told they are sacred. Finally. But damn you Denis for that Mapes scene!!!
It could be an age rating issue. In Lynch's Dune the scene where Jessica cuts a wound on Shadout Mapes' chest was also dropped. However, it was later released among the extra materials as part of the deleted scenes. The theatrical release was rated PG-13 which perhaps does not allow cutting bare skin with a knife and blood gushing out. Villeneuve's Dune is also PG-13 rated. When the Fremen cut their hands in the Cave of Ridges, we cannot see any skin nor blood. Most viewers probably do not even realize what they are doing. There is not much gore anywhere in the film. When Kynes is killed there's only water bursting out of the chest. I think the only blood we see in Villeneuve's version is when Paul hallucinates about getting killed. There's blood dripping out of a Crysknife but we never see it directly cutting a human body and then getting bloodied.
@@AnttiRanta All valid points. As I recall however the crysknife is so sacred only the faithful are even allowed to see one, with just two exceptions: Fremen accept you, or you are about to be killed. Jessica as I recall from the book (it has been a while) was not even shown the blade, and Mapes told her it must never be sheathed without drawing blood. So the PG13 stuff is a distraction. I don't know why Denis decided to do this. I am certain he had a reason. Just hard to understand.
Yeah, that was the biggest oversight I saw, left if a "huh?" moment when the Fremen all drew blood after Paul's fight... Sad to see he missed a chunk of their mythology like that, but overall I thought it was a great telling of the story.
"bird like planes"
has your writer seriously never seen a dragonfly before?
it's very subtle in the movie but paul's dreams were just dreams until he was exposed to spice.. when he got blasted by the spice when they were trying to save the harvester he went back and told jessice 'i was wide awake' ..but it's super subtle.
Enormous spaceships, space travel, digital shields but no sign of a computer did take me by surprise
I feel like a lot of the detail of the book was really overlooked in the movie but that’s to be expected somewhat. I think Jessica’s character was a bit disappointing as in the book she’s far calmer and not as emotional as the movie portrayed. Overall the movie was great. I really enjoyed it despite so much detail missed and even scenes that were changed.
Damn sure was. no Benne Gesserit. When I saw her coolly kick ass in the Mission Impossible movies...I knew she would be perfect to play Paul's mother in Dune.....but Denis cast her as an anxiety ridden nervous wreck all through the movie. What was he thinking???
I think the issue is with portraying thoughts on film without just having a monologue in the background. If Jessica just stays calm and collected, the audience never knows what she's thinking and feeling and those thoughts are what is more important to the story than her being a stoic badass.
To be honest, this movie was a perfect addition to my 'Movies of Dune' list. The Lynch version is something I really enjoy. I watched it straight after reading the book as a teenager. I was excited to see it play out on screen. Even then though, I knew tech limitations prevented it from being as good as it could be. This has been something I've waited a long time for and it didn't disappoint. I can't wait to see the second part.
2:19
*I see someone never read the books.*
The Brian Herbert books are not canon and should never be misinterpreted as an extension of Frank Herbert's original work. The original Dune series stated that it was HUMANS with thinking machines that used the machines to dominate the rest of humanity, and had eventually led to the Butlerian Jihad. It was an extension of Frank Herbert's message to not rely on other people or technologies because it builds a dependency to them.
Weird how this catches some things from the book while forgetting others. The bull is explained in detail in the book.
How is it?
Personal shields don't protect against lasers, they cause a chain reaction that's guaranteed to obliterate the shielded, the attack, and probably most people in their vicinity
I thought for a moment there that Duncan’s last act was going to be to get that lasgun and shoot a shield.