My cousin was born on the day Dorothy died, and I was just 7 months old, myself. I never knew about Dorothy Kilgallen until 2015, when I stumbled upon WML just by chance. So glad I found out about it. It’s been my favorite way to relax after a long day, ever since, and I’ve gotten to see all those old celebrities I’ve only heard about. RIP, Dorothy - you were an intelligent and delightful person.
@@kennithumperovitch1312 When I googled Tippi Hedrin, her spouse info named Peter Griffith, not Andy, as a previous husband and father to Melanie. Where did your info come from?
@@kennithumperovitch1312 I really wonder where you got your info. If you google Peter Griffith, it will show photos of one Peter Griffith and tell you how his daughters Melanie and Tracy and his granddaughter Dakota Johnson all became actresses. He was an American advertising executive.
Two of my favorite T-shirts are #1 Floyd the barber in a TUX, and he is PINK. Underneath it says "PINK FLOYD" in the band's font. #2 is Don Knotts wearing his deputy hat and the open-mouthed surprised expression on his face. Someone compliments these shirts almost every time I wear one.
It's mostly because it embraced the era in which it was made; basically a period piece to anyone watching it today. It's as much a historical record as it is a comedy show. Unlike most other shows from the era which were hidden behind bland sets and didn't really encompass /actual/ everyday life of the time.
This show was always such a delightful program, ... and very civilized with an excellent panel. Understandably it lasted almost 20 years and was watched by many millions of viewers.
@@joycejean-baptiste4355 The Wikipedia article on "What's My Line ?" has a list of the countries that had their own versions of the show. One episode and a fragment of another episode of the British version are available on RUclips.
I so appreciated how John quickly turned over the cards to give the young man $50!! Arlene, as usual, did a great job and the whole world could see that this enterprising young man was quite overwhelmed by it all. It was such a subtly compassionate move on their part.
After the first season or so, all contestants got the $50 regardless, because of possible legal issues of fraud, collusion, etc. such as when John might inadvertently give a clue. Also, when he decides the panel is "close enough" and announces the nature of the 'line', it could be troublesome to a contestant who wants the full $50 and would argue they got shorted.
@@tonycevallos7513 Mr. Price may or may not have gone to Vietnam. If he did, he survived. Mr. Price wrote a reminiscence of his What's My Line? experience for The Buffalo News in 2012 during the aftermath of Andy Griffith's passing. Please click here. web.archive.org/web/20120913064921/www.buffalonews.com:80/article/20120908/OPINION/120909693
@@kennethbutler1343 I know, and it was SICKENING!! and no, it wasn't only because John made a mistake. John flipped those cards over EVERY chance he got for NO reason WHATSOEVER! I used to love John so much! NOT ANYMORE!!! This wasn't even a GAME SHOW anymore! they should have called it, "Come and get $50 for no reason WHATSOEVER!"
Who did not love Sheriff Andy Taylor/Andy Griffith? This episode went from one extreme to the other. Arlene getting the first guest all by herself and then the entire panel having no clue at all that the Mystery Guest was Andy Griffith. He had a great time himself. Thanks for the video.
SO glad to have run across this - an episode I hadn't seen. I literally ADORED this clever GENTLEman and musician! To this day I think Andy must've possessed one of the most endearing, genuine souls Hollywood's ever seen the likes of. The man literally had twinkle lights gleaming from his eyes! He will always be right up there on my Famous People I'd Like to Hang With list. That's fo sho !! ⭐ 💓 😇 💓 ⭐
Except for two things, One: his singing on the show became more of a recurrence in the last couple years of the AG series (after this WML episode), and Two: since it wasn't what Andy was ever primarily know for, even a qualified yes would have misled the panel. Its okay to mislead the panel with a regular contestant, but it would have been poor taste for John to even slightly mislead the panel while guessing a "C-list" celebrity.
@@MrJoeybabe25 in 1965, yea. Andy's show had only been a hit for a short time by 1965, so he wasn't up there in rank just yet. If he was, the panel would have guessed him when they knew it was a male, on CBS, with a weekly show, bearing his name, and not on at night. Also if he was an A-lister it probably would have been in the NY press that he was in town, but it wasn't.
@@MWood-ry8uu, "C" list? Riiiiiiighhhht... GRIFFITH was a terrific actor who should have been nominated for an Oscar for "A FACE IN THE CROWD".. I was not crazy about his politics, but he was a very talented performer who ruled TV in the 1960's, and while many of the old studio actors would not have been caught dead on TV, then, there were more people watching TV than were going to the movies, each week, by far, then. The "A" stood for ANDY and Andy stood for "A" LIST if not in the movie sense, but in every sense of the word on TV in the 1960's..and he was an "A"- LIST TALENT.
@@MWood-ry8uu, no, his press agent/PR guy or the studio' PR GUY would have tipped them even if they were an A OR C LISTER.. If the PR guy does not say anything, and no background sources are not tipped..its make no difference if its an A OR C- LISTER. And, in 1965, ALL OF HIS STUFF, the SPECIAL, HIS SHOW, AND HIS DESILU /THOMAS SPINOFF, PYLE USMC, had been in the top ten, and with his weekly for awhile, for years back to 1960, being there, it was obvious that he was enormously popular... By the way, the NO TIME FOR SERGEANTS movie, OR THE COMEDY RECORD: WHAT IT WAS, WAS FOOTBALL.. were also enormously popular..AND LIKE A FACE IN THE CROWD, WERE ALL 1950'S STUFF. He was established. You're wrong. His problem was he became typecasted...by the audience..thus, he struck out in movies after that and any tv show that played against the ANDY TAYLOR role..with his fans not buying it, until he found Matlock.. But, in the 1960's he was one of the biggest things on TV..
I'm old enough to remember when CBS used to air sitcom reruns for 2 hours in the morning, from 9 AM to 11 AM Central Time (right after "Captain Kangaroo"). When I was in kindergarten, the line-up was "The Lucy Show," followed by "The Real McCoys," followed by what was billed as "Andy of Mayberry" (reruns of "The Andy Griffith Show"), followed by "The Dick Van Dyke Show." A year or 2 or 3 later, "The Real McCoys" was replaced in the line-up by re-runs of "The Beverly Hillbillies." Then, of course, I reacquainted myself with "The Andy Griffith Show" (and "The Dick Van Dyke Show") some years later when they ran and ran and ran the reruns on WGN-TV (Channel 9) in Chicago, as part of WGN's family-friendly programming. Those were the days......
I grew up a couple of counties over from Andy (but 25 years later), so Steve's detection of a Brooklyn accent gave me my biggest WML chuckle ever. I was on Roanoke Island yesterday - "The Lost Colony" still runs there every summer.
loopshackr MeToo. I died laughing when Steve said he detected a "Brooklyn" accent from Andy Griffith. 😂🤣 My ancestors were from Virginia. Jamestown to be exact. I love your beautiful NorthCarolina/Virginia country. 👍🤠🎻
This was probably the most Sophisticated and Elegant time period we had in America. The clothes, hairstyles, and mannerisms were impeccable. Just look at Dorothy in that Empire gown and hairstyle.
WOW! the first time Andy Griffith was on here, he didn't change his voice and they got him right away. I was surprised 'tonight.' I didn't think he COULD disguise his voice!
I have very fond memories of this particular Halloween. I bought a bride’s box costume from Woolworth and made a Princess costume out of it. I lived in Forest Hills, so my best friend and I went trick or treating from building to building and made out like a bandit! We were 2 little girls and perfectly safe. It was a very different time.
Mr. Griffith did so well! I have adored that man my entire life. He was "pleased as punch" - to use a common and beloved southern phrase - to have won. All the ladies of the panel looked lovely as ever. Rest in peace to them all and especially the incomparable Dorothy Kilgallen. I wish they had done more about finding out the circumstances of her death. She was entirely too intelligent for something so simple as an accidental overdose to have happened. God bless ❤
I think it's unbelievable that they can guess the profession of these people. I don't know how they know what questions to ask but they definitely used their heads back in the day for sure. What a great show this was.
Dorothy (being a journalist) knew how to find information by asking the right questions, but they also all started looking in the newspapers to figure out who was going to be in the area, which presumably made things a lot easier.
The show is a unique glimpse into the past. @WhatsMyLine The work you have done researching and editing so we can have the best possible experience watching the episodes is extraordinary and greatly appreciated.
Andy Griffith's mystery guest appearances in the 1950s were utter classics of comedy. What a personality. This appearance is ever better. Who knew the most famous actor from Pilot Mountain NC could do BBC English?
Thanks to his short answers "yes" and "no" he managed to trick the panel. Some MG tended to reveal themselves at the end of the questioning not to appear unknown, but not Andy.
I dunno. I liked the 50's Andy more than the grownup Andy of 1965. But he was always a personality that I enjoyed. Should have had a nice movie career like he wanted. Don Knotts was like his Art Carney in that he was more successful (in awards...did Andy ever win an Emmy for acting? Don won five) than the main guy in movies and conferrals.
His accent was great, but I thought I could hear his own voice clearly through it and was surprised the panel didn't pick up on it. Of course, I wasn't blind-folded, so obviously I had an advantage. ;) The funniest part was when Steve thought he recognized the voice and guessed Steve Lawrence and detected a Brooklyn accent and guessed Joey Bishop!
Don Knotts won 5 Emmys working with Andy. And Francis Bauvier won an Emmy working with Andy. And despite his starring in two big TV hits, Griffith did not win an Emmy. It boggles the mind. Competition in the lead male roles was always tough in the Emmy Awards --- but STILL!
soulierinvestments Jackie Gleason never won an Emmy or an Oscar (which he was been nominated for in 1961 for the role of Minnesota Fats in "The Hustles". the winner was George Chakiris in West Side Story and the competition was Montgomery Clift -Judgment at Nuremberg Peter Falk - Pocketful of Miracles George C. Scott - The Hustler. Perhaps Gleason and Scott contributed to Chakiris' win)since they would split the Hustler vote. I've seen all of those films, and IMHO, Gleason was never finer.
Where blacks and Asians were relegated to slums and women were held down under mens thumbs! Women couldn’t have loans or credit cards, and women couldn’t wear pants outside the home!
28:10 -- Dorothy in response to Steve's "high" comment: "Steve, you're always high in our esteem." That was very sweet! Definitely an "awww..." moment in my opinion, and when I listen carefully, I think I can hear a couple of "aww"s from the audience as well. :)
+SaveTheTPC I thought about that comment immediately after she said it and thought, "It's the last thing she ever said to Steve." In that context, it was a wonderful thing for him to remember her by. But then I realized that she probably talked with him at the party after the show. Oh well. I need to get over being a sentimental romantic!
1:41 something about steve telling everyone that dorothy's little boy is out having fun trick-or-treating in a limo makes me want to cry. none of them have any idea that in just one week dorothy will be gone forever and her son will be without his mother. it's all so tragic
He was trick or treating in the limo because Dorothy was already scared for the safety of herself and her family. There was a photograph of her son taken the week before, walking alone, and she took it as a threat that they would kidnap him, because of her JFK investigation.
@@dinahbrown902 There’s some evidence to suggest that she hired the limo because she was concerned for his safety regarding some investigative journalism she was doing at the time. Her own life and the lives of her family members had both been threatened.
ldchappell1 I have a few spotted memories of 1965. One of those is a bit of trick or treating . My Daddy was with my sisters and I. They were 10 and I was 4. Daddy passed that December. I turned 5 in April.
It's all in knowing what to whistle for a wrench compared to what to whistle for a hammer (for example). The fish are merely to pay the messenger for a job well done.
I loved what's my line and Steve Allen, Dorothy killgallen, Bennett cerf charles daly Arlene Francis this show soothes my soul when I'm down these old tv show lift me up.
I think Andy won at least one Grammy late in life for gospel singing. I believe his comedy records would have won, but they came too early for the Grammy which started in 1958
I like that they gave all the money to the 16 year old young man who grew pumpkins. He was ambitious to work so hard for 4 years and I am happy to see him rewarded.
It happened again. Almost every time the show aired on a holiday and they have someone on the show who's occupation has to do with that holiday, the contestant never gets very far, the panel figures it out almost immediately.
As a young child, I remember this Halloween with great fondness. Trick or Treating with my best friend, fully costumed in my building. Didn’t have to wear coats over our costumes. Wonderful times! 🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖
Everyone remembers Andy Griffith as a loveable character actor, especially his stage performance in No Time for Sergeants, later filmed in 1958. But if you have never seen him push the limits of nastiness take a look at his first major film A Face in the Crowd, 1957. I thought his performance was worthy of an Oscar nomination for Best Actor. He was a very talented actor with much greater range than many realize.
So glad you said that.... he was deeper than many knew. No one could have done his part better in, "A Face In The Crowd." Definitely an Oscar winning performance.
Jim Griffin: Thanks for your comment. You are the first person to ever do more than give a thumbs up. Agree or disagree it's nice to know other's opinions... I am glad you agree. When I saw that film I had never heard of it and knew nothing about it. What a surprise. The only other time that happened was when I went to see Deliverance. Starring Burt Reynolds I again went expecting a comedy. That one really shocked the dickens out of me.
Eery foresight the production staff had to book for their last game together one week before Dorothy's passing the Varsity String WML panel of Arlene -- Steve Allen -- Dorothy and Bennett. March 1953 to September 1954.
Arlene, Steve Allen, Dorothy, and Bennett - the winning quad! Thank you for span of dates in which they were all together on WML every week. Now I don’t need to research that information to enjoy it by eventually watching all those episodes!
But the weird thing is that my Mom graduated from high school during this time, in June of 1954. I always thought of her yearbook as ancient days ago! Yet these four make it seem like yesterday!!!
I'm in the process of watching Andy's(four!)appearances, chronologically. I'm glad this post has the "spots" included. I, always, enjoy seeing "vintage" commercials! I may have seen this show; it's the night, before my sixth birthday and, we, always, watched the program! At present, the panel's "discussing" something, while the dolphin trainer is on but, I don't see the porpoise, of the argument!
When this show was aired in 1965 it was Halloween. Today is it Christmas, so because we in Sweden celebrate Christmas Eve more than Christmas Day; I say to each and to all GOD JUL! :)
Hah! Really? All that whistling and commenting about women’s looks and bodies, and the rarity of a female stockbroker - trust me, it wasn’t kind. I grew up in those times, girls and women were constantly scrutinized and dissected for every little bit of their appearance. And underneath those dresses, the foundation garments we put up with. That was just as pantyhose were becoming available. Before that, it was garter belts, girdles, ugh! And if one bit of your slip was visible below your hemline, or a strap happened to slip off your shoulder - OMG! Shame! Mortification! You have no idea. There was a reason why women rebelled.
According to Mark Goodson's appearance as MG on one of the anniversary shows, the panelists guessed the line about 75% of the time.. However, in each of at least 4 times that female stockbrokers were the guest, the panel never guessed the line.
I love how other celebrity guests struggle to hide their voice and here's Andy Griffith whipping out the Received Pronunciation and completely fooling them.
I wasn’t able,to see TV and this show in person at this time as I had just started College and we were not allowed to have a TV in our dorm room!!! Never missed it! I’m happy to see all,the shows I missed!
Steve mentions Dorothy’s son went trick or treating in a limo. That was because Dorothy was afraid for her life at the end of October, and she did that to protect her son. Supposedly his photo was taken in a park.
There is an old episode of the old “Hawaii five O”. Where someone had to pay a ransom. The drop is in Sea life park. He has to sit through the porpoise show before he receives his instructions.
The final challenger was asked about special training to become a stockbroker. The response was "No". As a former stockbroker for 20+ years, I believe that was incorrect. I had to pass an exam that required knowledge of an extensive amount of material. I am fairly certain that such an exam would have been required back in the 1960's. An interesting contrast between two Goodson-Todman shows, WML and Password, is seen once again in this episode. From time to time WML had stockbrokers as challengers. They were generally female. It was a rarity in the 1950's and 1960's when the original WML aired. It was much more common when I was a stockbroker (1983-2004). In contrast, Password often had stockbroker trainees as contestants when the shows were in NYC. Of all the ones I've seen, all of them were male. There is such a disproportionate number from that profession (and a specialized one at that, trainees) I have to wonder how it came about. Unfortunately when I was studying to become a stockbroker, Password was not on the air.
She was asked if a formal education (college degree) was required. As John Daly said, it isn't required, but the education would be extremely helpful. I'm sure that exam has been passed by a few people without degrees even if they are a tiny percentage.
I think the panel didn't guess Andy Griffith despite many clues because they were not great television viewers. This was a time when theatre had prestige but TV was a brash newcomer. This show raised the status of television because it is superb light entertainment with intelligent talk and constant good humour.
Andy had done the well received movie "A Face In The Crowd" (1957) with his stunning portrayal of a musical guitar player who becomes too big for his britches, cast as a radio bigwig, before his stunning fall from the top.
What? TV had been around in homes for almost 20 years by then, its golden age having been the previous decade. Steve Allen was a TV star, not a movie star, and Andy Griffith was famous in 1965. He was first famous because he appeared in a TV play that went to Broadway, then to film in the 1950s called No Time For Sergeants. You’re off by about 10 years.
7:00. "Every major US airline uses Champion..." (visual of Boeing 707 takeoff). Jets have sparkplugs? Of course, they may be referring to the airlines' ground vehicles.
Almost like people were smart when they said it was better to never to bring up politics or religion in polite company. Now everyone believes you must jam your view down other's throats and then accuse them of everything under the sun when they don't agree 100% with you. That's not enlightenment, it's called fascism and anti-intellectualism. And ironically we see it coming most from people who claim to be against it.
Karen Pryor, the porpoise trainer, is still alive and had an amazing career in the study of behavior. Her work in behavioral science revolutionize how animals are trained, turning from force and fear based to empathetic, positive, and effective methods of communication. She revolutionized the field of dog training and her company continues to be a leader in the education of trainers and caretakers of animals of all types and her work has improved the lives of humans as well. A life well lived!
+lissalives Smoot Prove it - beyond a reasonable doubt. Cold, hard, evidentiary proof, please. And if you do have cold, hard, evidentiary proof, you should really share it with the New York Police Department. I'm sure that they'd appreciate the help in clearing up a 53-year-old "cold case." All that we know for certain is that Dorothy Kilgallen died, and that there were traces of alcohol and barbiturates in her bloodstream at the time of autopsy.
The NYPD has no power against the people who wanted her dead. I can't say for 100% she was murdered but I can say 100% that extremely powerful people wanted her dead
Jmccrack, Dorothy was murdered. She was an avid reader and always took off her make up before retiring to bed. She was found in bed fully made up & book propped up in her hands. Get this.. her reading glasses were on the dresser across the room. Knowing the secretive 'Warren Commission" and Dorothy's exclusive interview of Lee Harvey & his wife and her dropping tidbits in her column. Hmmm. Also, Dorothy was a drinker, not a druggie so the combo was deadly.
+Joe Postove But they remembered him from the mid 1950s when he was based in New York playing nightclubs. They remembered his stand-up comedy routine "What it was, was football."
This is my third time through all these shows, and watching Dorothy is harder each time as she approaches her end. For all the comments that she seems to be drunk or under barbiturates, she is as sharp as a tack tonight. Watch her identify the porpoise trainer, and you’ll agree.
![What's My Line? - Olivia De Havilland; Martin Gabel & Carol Channing [panel] (Aug 8, 1965)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/l4VYeZjSdhU/mqdefault.jpg)
![What's My Line? - Clarence "Donald Duck" Nash; Bob Hope (Dec 12, 1954) [W/ COMMERCIALS]](/img/1.gif)
My cousin was born on the day Dorothy died, and I was just 7 months old, myself. I never knew about Dorothy Kilgallen until 2015, when I stumbled upon WML just by chance. So glad I found out about it. It’s been my favorite way to relax after a long day, ever since, and I’ve gotten to see all those old celebrities I’ve only heard about. RIP, Dorothy - you were an intelligent and delightful person.
This was her last episode
J Edgar was getting nervous as Dorothy's investigating was closing in on him. He would have none of that guff.
Very suspicious death.
She was a very sad,empty person
@@timower5850 Government
The Andy Griffith Show...One of the most entertaining and wholesome shows ever made!
Andy Griffith fooled Tippi Hedrin and their marriage lasted less than a year. Long enough to have a daughter, Melanie.
@@kennithumperovitch1312 When I googled Tippi Hedrin, her spouse info named Peter Griffith, not Andy, as a previous husband and father to Melanie. Where did your info come from?
@@diananutt1517 A Andrew Peter Griffith was his whole name. He hated Peter.
@@kennithumperovitch1312 I really wonder where you got your info. If you google Peter Griffith, it will show photos of one Peter Griffith and tell you how his daughters Melanie and Tracy and his granddaughter Dakota Johnson all became actresses. He was an American advertising executive.
@@kennithumperovitch1312a lhiouidfidi………. no
The Andy Griffith show still holds up today. Don Knotts was gold. Can't say that about too many shows that old.
Two of my favorite T-shirts are #1 Floyd the barber in a TUX, and he is PINK. Underneath it says "PINK FLOYD" in the band's font. #2 is Don Knotts wearing his deputy hat and the open-mouthed surprised expression on his face. Someone compliments these shirts almost every time I wear one.
@@joelhoulette3244 He got started on Steve Allen's show doing his character 'the nervous man' which developed into Barney as we know him.
It's mostly because it embraced the era in which it was made; basically a period piece to anyone watching it today. It's as much a historical record as it is a comedy show. Unlike most other shows from the era which were hidden behind bland sets and didn't really encompass /actual/ everyday life of the time.
How about the Danny Thomas Show?
Andy Griffith gave us the genius Ron Howard.
I think many of us would’ve loved to hang out with and talk with Dorothy so sharp intuitive and sweet. Rest in power
She had fueds, like with Frank Sinatra and other celebrities
You just can't watch any of these without having a smile on your face.
This show was always such a delightful program, ... and very civilized with an excellent panel. Understandably it lasted almost 20 years and was watched by many millions of viewers.
And still watching it today.
In England as well. I wonder what other countries was it in.
Yes and John Charles Daily was the best MC/host they ever had!
@@joycejean-baptiste4355 The Wikipedia article on "What's My Line ?" has a list of the countries that had their own versions of the show. One episode and a fragment of another episode of the British version are available on RUclips.
@@jackkomisar458 Interesting. Thank you. I did notice that various game shows are in other countries too.
Undoubtedly one of the greatest game shows of all time.
The greatest
Its right up there with Bowling for Bitcoins..
I thought so to at one time
For sure! I just re-discovered it a few months back. When it was originally aired, I was too young to appreciate it.
Felt sorry for that pumpkin guy. Kind of an unusual fellow; wonder what ever became of him.
Thanks for including the original commercials
I so appreciated how John quickly turned over the cards to give the young man $50!! Arlene, as usual, did a great job and the whole world could see that this enterprising young man was quite overwhelmed by it all. It was such a subtly compassionate move on their part.
Poor kid looked so nervous. I wonder how life has gone for him. Hopefully he didn't have to go to Vietnam.
After the first season or so, all contestants got the $50 regardless, because of possible legal issues of fraud, collusion, etc. such as when John might inadvertently give a clue. Also, when he decides the panel is "close enough" and announces the nature of the 'line', it could be troublesome to a contestant who wants the full $50 and would argue they got shorted.
@@tonycevallos7513 Mr. Price may or may not have gone to Vietnam. If he did, he survived. Mr. Price wrote a reminiscence of his What's My Line? experience for The Buffalo News in 2012 during the aftermath of Andy Griffith's passing. Please click here. web.archive.org/web/20120913064921/www.buffalonews.com:80/article/20120908/OPINION/120909693
Kathleen Sterling, thanks for this link!!
@@kennethbutler1343 I know, and it was SICKENING!! and no, it wasn't only because John made a mistake. John flipped those cards over EVERY chance he got for NO reason WHATSOEVER! I used to love John so much! NOT ANYMORE!!!
This wasn't even a GAME SHOW anymore! they should have called it, "Come and get $50 for no reason WHATSOEVER!"
Who did not love Sheriff Andy Taylor/Andy Griffith? This episode went from one extreme to the other. Arlene getting the first guest all by herself and then the entire panel having no clue at all that the Mystery Guest was Andy Griffith. He had a great time himself. Thanks for the video.
To think... Dorothy will be gone in 8 days from this taping. So eerie to watch her last episodes.
And sad
I wonder how she died. Same as Marilyn Monroe’s manner of death.
I know you are absolutely right
She was murdered because she knew too much 😬
Oh wow all awful. How did she die?
SO glad to have run across this - an episode I hadn't seen. I literally ADORED this clever GENTLEman and musician! To this day I think Andy must've possessed one of the most endearing, genuine souls Hollywood's ever seen the likes of. The man literally had twinkle lights gleaming from his eyes! He will always be right up there on my Famous People I'd Like to Hang With list. That's fo sho !!
⭐ 💓 😇 💓 ⭐
I love seeing the old commercials :-D
The question about Andy singing was an unqualified yes! He sang many times on his show and was great!
Except for two things, One: his singing on the show became more of a recurrence in the last couple years of the AG series (after this WML episode), and Two: since it wasn't what Andy was ever primarily know for, even a qualified yes would have misled the panel. Its okay to mislead the panel with a regular contestant, but it would have been poor taste for John to even slightly mislead the panel while guessing a "C-list" celebrity.
@@MWood-ry8uu You would call Andy Griffith C-list?
@@MrJoeybabe25 in 1965, yea. Andy's show had only been a hit for a short time by 1965, so he wasn't up there in rank just yet. If he was, the panel would have guessed him when they knew it was a male, on CBS, with a weekly show, bearing his name, and not on at night. Also if he was an A-lister it probably would have been in the NY press that he was in town, but it wasn't.
@@MWood-ry8uu, "C" list?
Riiiiiiighhhht...
GRIFFITH was a terrific actor who should have been nominated for an Oscar for "A FACE IN THE CROWD"..
I was not crazy about his politics, but he was a very talented performer who ruled TV in the 1960's, and while many of the old studio actors would not have been caught dead on TV, then, there were more people watching TV than were going to the movies, each week, by far, then.
The "A" stood for ANDY and Andy stood for "A" LIST if not in the movie sense, but in every sense of the word on TV in the 1960's..and he was an "A"- LIST TALENT.
@@MWood-ry8uu, no, his press agent/PR guy or the studio' PR GUY would have tipped them even if they were an A OR C LISTER..
If the PR guy does not say anything, and no background sources are not tipped..its make no difference if its an A OR C- LISTER.
And, in 1965, ALL OF HIS STUFF, the SPECIAL, HIS SHOW, AND HIS DESILU /THOMAS SPINOFF, PYLE USMC, had been in the top ten, and with his weekly for awhile, for years back to 1960, being there, it was obvious that he was enormously popular... By the way, the NO TIME FOR SERGEANTS movie, OR THE COMEDY RECORD: WHAT IT WAS, WAS FOOTBALL.. were also enormously popular..AND LIKE A FACE IN THE CROWD, WERE ALL 1950'S STUFF.
He was established. You're wrong.
His problem was he became typecasted...by the audience..thus, he struck out in movies after that and any tv show that played against the ANDY TAYLOR role..with his fans not buying it, until he found Matlock..
But, in the 1960's he was one of the biggest things on TV..
Thank you so much for this gem! I grew up watching The Andy Griffith Show as a child after school, will always be my favorite television show.
I'm old enough to remember when CBS used to air sitcom reruns for 2 hours in the morning, from 9 AM to 11 AM Central Time (right after "Captain Kangaroo"). When I was in kindergarten, the line-up was "The Lucy Show," followed by "The Real McCoys," followed by what was billed as "Andy of Mayberry" (reruns of "The Andy Griffith Show"), followed by "The Dick Van Dyke Show." A year or 2 or 3 later, "The Real McCoys" was replaced in the line-up by re-runs of "The Beverly Hillbillies."
Then, of course, I reacquainted myself with "The Andy Griffith Show" (and "The Dick Van Dyke Show") some years later when they ran and ran and ran the reruns on WGN-TV (Channel 9) in Chicago, as part of WGN's family-friendly programming. Those were the days......
@@jmccracken1963Mary Hopkins song, "Those Were The Days" (1968).
RIP all celebrities in this episode including Andy Griffith
I had a horribly abusive father and always wished that Andy Griffith was my dad. I just ADORE him!
I grew up a couple of counties over from Andy (but 25 years later), so Steve's detection of a Brooklyn accent gave me my biggest WML chuckle ever. I was on Roanoke Island yesterday - "The Lost Colony" still runs there every summer.
loopshackr
MeToo. I died laughing when Steve said he detected a "Brooklyn" accent from Andy Griffith. 😂🤣
My ancestors were from Virginia. Jamestown to be exact. I love your beautiful NorthCarolina/Virginia country. 👍🤠🎻
This was probably the most Sophisticated and Elegant time period we had in America. The clothes, hairstyles, and mannerisms were impeccable. Just look at Dorothy in that Empire gown and hairstyle.
Chris,
And it was a week later that she was murdered.
Now we have the lovely them/their crowd with pink/purple/green hair and cow nose rings
Agreed
We were proud of who we were..it was glorious to be a women
@@shirleysue228 😮💨😪
I like how each member of the panel introduced the next panel member.
WOW! the first time Andy Griffith was on here, he didn't change his voice and they got him right away. I was surprised 'tonight.' I didn't think he COULD disguise his voice!
Only a monster would
Kill such a loveable and talented sweet lady like Dorothy Kilgallen
No proof.
I so agree
@@audreymai2773 there is more than enough to go on ...the man researching this has an awful lot of info...you know nothing
Yes and there is tons of proof - people just refuse to see..
Read Mark Shaws 3 books, excellent books full of PROOF that Dorothy was indeed murdered by monsters.
I have very fond memories of this particular Halloween. I bought a bride’s box costume from Woolworth and made a Princess costume out of it. I lived in Forest Hills, so my best friend and I went trick or treating from building to building and made out like a bandit! We were 2 little girls and perfectly safe. It was a very different time.
Yeah it was a different time. I too went out with friends only at that age. In fact parents did not escort their kids at all then. Whatever happened??
@@peaches1627 People in general became more cruel, nasty, and dangerous to others! That is what happened
Forest Hills is still a great neighborhood. I have lived in Forest Hills since 1988.
The commercials are all most as entertaining today as the show . I truly enjoy this show
The commercials in 1965 were more entertaining and funnier than the ones in 2023!
Great reminder of what we once were and what we've lost.
Mr. Griffith did so well! I have adored that man my entire life. He was "pleased as punch" - to use a common and beloved southern phrase - to have won. All the ladies of the panel looked lovely as ever. Rest in peace to them all and especially the incomparable Dorothy Kilgallen. I wish they had done more about finding out the circumstances of her death. She was entirely too intelligent for something so simple as an accidental overdose to have happened. God bless ❤
I think it's unbelievable that they can guess the profession of these people. I don't know how they know what questions to ask but they definitely used their heads back in the day for sure. What a great show this was.
Dorothy (being a journalist) knew how to find information by asking the right questions, but they also all started looking in the newspapers to figure out who was going to be in the area, which presumably made things a lot easier.
@@candicehoneycutt4318 that makes sense. Thank you.
The show is a unique glimpse into the past. @WhatsMyLine The work you have done researching and editing so we can have the best possible experience watching the episodes is extraordinary and greatly appreciated.
Andy Griffith's mystery guest appearances in the 1950s were utter classics of comedy. What a personality. This appearance is ever better. Who knew the most famous actor from Pilot Mountain NC could do BBC English?
Thanks to his short answers "yes" and "no" he managed to trick the panel. Some MG tended to reveal themselves at the end of the questioning not to appear unknown, but not Andy.
I dunno. I liked the 50's Andy more than the grownup Andy of 1965. But he was always a personality that I enjoyed. Should have had a nice movie career like he wanted. Don Knotts was like his Art Carney in that he was more successful (in awards...did Andy ever win an Emmy for acting? Don won five) than the main guy in movies and conferrals.
His accent was great, but I thought I could hear his own voice clearly through it and was surprised the panel didn't pick up on it. Of course, I wasn't blind-folded, so obviously I had an advantage. ;) The funniest part was when Steve thought he recognized the voice and guessed Steve Lawrence and detected a Brooklyn accent and guessed Joey Bishop!
Don Knotts won 5 Emmys working with Andy. And Francis Bauvier won an Emmy working with Andy. And despite his starring in two big TV hits, Griffith did not win an Emmy. It boggles the mind. Competition in the lead male roles was always tough in the Emmy Awards --- but STILL!
soulierinvestments Jackie Gleason never won an Emmy or an Oscar (which he was been nominated for in 1961 for the role of Minnesota Fats in "The Hustles". the winner was George Chakiris in West Side Story and the competition was
Montgomery Clift -Judgment at Nuremberg
Peter Falk - Pocketful of Miracles
George C. Scott - The Hustler.
Perhaps Gleason and Scott contributed to Chakiris' win)since they would split the Hustler vote. I've seen all of those films, and IMHO, Gleason was never finer.
I absolutely love the Andy Griffith show. Back when America was a proud America and a country with friendly people.
Where blacks and Asians were relegated to slums and women were held down under mens thumbs! Women couldn’t have loans or credit cards, and women couldn’t wear pants outside the home!
28:10 -- Dorothy in response to Steve's "high" comment: "Steve, you're always high in our esteem." That was very sweet! Definitely an "awww..." moment in my opinion, and when I listen carefully, I think I can hear a couple of "aww"s from the audience as well. :)
+SaveTheTPC I thought about that comment immediately after she said it and thought, "It's the last thing she ever said to Steve." In that context, it was a wonderful thing for him to remember her by. But then I realized that she probably talked with him at the party after the show. Oh well. I need to get over being a sentimental romantic!
Steve was always high, about six feet three inches high.
@@christinedorman3383 Please don’t get over it, because sentimental romantics keep this world nice and kind. 😊
@@deboraholsen2504 😀
1:41 something about steve telling everyone that dorothy's little boy is out having fun trick-or-treating in a limo makes me want to cry. none of them have any idea that in just one week dorothy will be gone forever and her son will be without his mother. it's all so tragic
He was without her a lot anyway. He was out in a limo trick or treating 😢
He was trick or treating in the limo because Dorothy was already scared for the safety of herself and her family. There was a photograph of her son taken the week before, walking alone, and she took it as a threat that they would kidnap him, because of her JFK investigation.
@@dinahbrown902 There’s some evidence to suggest that she hired the limo because she was concerned for his safety regarding some investigative journalism she was doing at the time. Her own life and the lives of her family members had both been threatened.
@@maladjustedmusician It cost her her life.
Given her bleary eyed expression, so different than earlier years, I think they knew she was a drunk and that things would not end well.
It is eerie to watch the next to last show Dorothy was on. I would have loved to have met her.
Now that WAS a surprise! I couldn't BELIEVE they didn't get Andy Griffith. He did a tiny accent, but he didn't even change his voice!
It sounded formal and slightly British, not the southern drawl.
I went trick or treating as a vampire on October 31, 1965. I was seven.
ldchappell1 I have a few spotted memories of 1965. One of those is a bit of trick or treating . My Daddy was with my sisters and I. They were 10 and I was 4. Daddy passed that December. I turned 5 in April.
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My last year to TorT was 1964. I was 8 years old. Fun memories.
Kathleen L
So sorry you lost your Daddy at such a young age.
I was 5 mos old on Halloween 1965!
I was a pirate...I was 9
"We communicate with them with a whistle and a bucket of fish."
"And they know from that to get a wrench?" Dorothy LOL.
It's all in knowing what to whistle for a wrench compared to what to whistle for a hammer (for example). The fish are merely to pay the messenger for a job well done.
Steve Allen was a true scholar, read some of his books. Wide range of interest and mastery of many areas
I loved what's my line and Steve Allen, Dorothy killgallen, Bennett cerf charles daly Arlene Francis this show soothes my soul when I'm down these old tv show lift me up.
Great to see Steve Allen back.
I think Andy won at least one Grammy late in life for gospel singing. I believe his comedy records would have won, but they came too early for the Grammy which started in 1958
Thanks for keeping the commercials. This really takes me back.
wow karen pryor the second guest was a great speaker. im sure she was very good at her job. :)
btw thank you for these uploads. :)
Just love the panel miss the mystery guest. They all laugh and smile
So cool that Andy eluded them. 👍😉
I like that they gave all the money to the 16 year old young man who grew pumpkins. He was ambitious to work so hard for 4 years and I am happy to see him rewarded.
It happened again. Almost every time the show aired on a holiday and they have someone on the show who's occupation has to do with that holiday, the contestant never
gets very far, the panel figures it out almost immediately.
When the porpoises all leave for space, at least they are polite enough to come by and say "So long, and thanks for all the fish."
As a young child, I remember this Halloween with great fondness. Trick or Treating with my best friend, fully costumed in my building. Didn’t have to wear coats over our costumes. Wonderful times! 🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖
Thanks for posting GOD Bless YOU!!
A simple premise but very good show.
His British accent is spot on...i wish all the actors would do that
Andy was such a mensch! RIP Sheriff Taylor!
Dorothy will always be missed ...
I love Andy Griffith and I am bummed that I will never get to meet him RIP
I can't believe that kid was 16.
I'd like to have that washing machine. Haha
I want that washing machine too. My machine shakes a lot. 😄😄
wow. this aired 9 days before Dorothy was killed. it's heartbreaking to watch. I love her.
She died from an overdose of barbituates found in her bloodstream.
@@RonGerstein She was murdered.
Everyone remembers Andy Griffith as a loveable character actor, especially his stage performance in No Time for Sergeants, later filmed in 1958. But if you have never seen him push the limits of nastiness take a look at his first major film A Face in the Crowd, 1957. I thought his performance was worthy of an Oscar nomination for Best Actor. He was a very talented actor with much greater range than many realize.
So glad you said that.... he was deeper than many knew. No one could have done his part better in, "A Face In The Crowd." Definitely an Oscar winning performance.
Jim Griffin: Thanks for your comment. You are the first person to ever do more than give a thumbs up. Agree or disagree it's nice to know other's opinions... I am glad you agree. When I saw that film I had never heard of it and knew nothing about it. What a surprise. The only other time that happened was when I went to see Deliverance. Starring Burt Reynolds I again went expecting a comedy. That one really shocked the dickens out of me.
Omg yes your right on!! He was totally not our regular " Andy "
Amazing, unsettling performance. And leading-man good looks.
Eery foresight the production staff had to book for their last game together one week before Dorothy's passing the Varsity String WML panel of Arlene -- Steve Allen -- Dorothy and Bennett. March 1953 to September 1954.
Immediately what I was thinking when I saw that Steve Allen was part of the panel.
Arlene, Steve Allen, Dorothy, and Bennett - the winning quad! Thank you for span of dates in which they were all together on WML every week. Now I don’t need to research that information to enjoy it by eventually watching all those episodes!
But the weird thing is that my Mom graduated from high school during this time, in June of 1954. I always thought of her yearbook as ancient days ago! Yet these four make it seem like yesterday!!!
I'm in the process of watching Andy's(four!)appearances, chronologically. I'm glad this post has the "spots" included. I, always, enjoy seeing "vintage" commercials! I may have seen this show; it's the night, before my sixth birthday and, we, always, watched the program! At present, the panel's "discussing" something, while the dolphin trainer is on but, I don't see the porpoise, of the argument!
When this show was aired in 1965 it was Halloween. Today is it Christmas, so because we in Sweden celebrate Christmas Eve more than Christmas Day; I say to each and to all GOD JUL! :)
Since there are no Jews in Sweden, allow me to extend Happy Hannukah wishes to all the gentiles there.
Joe Postove There are Jews in Sweden (but for reasons I won't mention here, some of them move from Sweden) but allow me to wish you a Happy Hannukah!
Johan Bengtsson Today is Christmas in Israel, Johan. Business as usual. Christ would be mortified, just mortified! Merry Christmas, Pal!
Joe Postove I'm just having a Merry December 25th personally. But that's just me.
What's My Line? Let me be the first to wishing you a merry Boxing Day, Gary!
I thought they would get Andy Griffith by the question if he had a show named after him on CBS. Funny.
I love the way the women dressed and talked back then. So much more kindness and respect back then as well.
Hah! Really? All that whistling and commenting about women’s looks and bodies, and the rarity of a female stockbroker - trust me, it wasn’t kind. I grew up in those times, girls and women were constantly scrutinized and dissected for every little bit of their appearance. And underneath those dresses, the foundation garments we put up with. That was just as pantyhose were becoming available. Before that, it was garter belts, girdles, ugh! And if one bit of your slip was visible below your hemline, or a strap happened to slip off your shoulder - OMG! Shame! Mortification! You have no idea. There was a reason why women rebelled.
Ms. Betsy Ross, the stockbroker, worked for one of many firms back then which has long since departed from the scene.
I was expecting Bennet Cerf to ask if she did things accidentally, or only on porpoise....
According to Mark Goodson's appearance as MG on one of the anniversary shows, the panelists guessed the line about 75% of the time.. However, in each of at least 4 times that female stockbrokers were the guest, the panel never guessed the line.
I love how other celebrity guests struggle to hide their voice and here's Andy Griffith whipping out the Received Pronunciation and completely fooling them.
I wasn’t able,to see TV and this show in person at this time as I had just started College and we were not allowed to have a TV in our dorm room!!! Never missed it! I’m happy to see all,the shows I missed!
Supp-Hose Stockings: Great for your ego! Gotta love the old commercials!
The Andy Griffith Show is as American as Apple Pie. Love it when Earnest T Bass comes to Mayberry... Miss Betsy Ross is a Knock Out...
Steve mentions Dorothy’s son went trick or treating in a limo. That was because Dorothy was afraid for her life at the end of October, and she did that to protect her son. Supposedly his photo was taken in a park.
In a suit and tie and as himself how surprisingly handsome a man Any Griffith is.
Can you imagine an audience member giving a wolf whistle in todays world. 😮😂
In older episodes the commercials were performed right there on stage, next to John, live.
Really? Is that true? At what point did that stop?
@@kimberlyehrlich4 Before 1960
Oh Dorothy....... you have no idea what's going to happen 😔
There is an old episode of the old “Hawaii five O”. Where someone had to pay a ransom. The drop is in Sea life park. He has to sit through the porpoise show before he receives his instructions.
The pumpkin guy is 16? Whoa, I'm 50 and he looks older than me.. must be the hair/glasses he wears
The final challenger was asked about special training to become a stockbroker. The response was "No". As a former stockbroker for 20+ years, I believe that was incorrect. I had to pass an exam that required knowledge of an extensive amount of material. I am fairly certain that such an exam would have been required back in the 1960's.
An interesting contrast between two Goodson-Todman shows, WML and Password, is seen once again in this episode. From time to time WML had stockbrokers as challengers. They were generally female. It was a rarity in the 1950's and 1960's when the original WML aired. It was much more common when I was a stockbroker (1983-2004).
In contrast, Password often had stockbroker trainees as contestants when the shows were in NYC. Of all the ones I've seen, all of them were male. There is such a disproportionate number from that profession (and a specialized one at that, trainees) I have to wonder how it came about.
Unfortunately when I was studying to become a stockbroker, Password was not on the air.
She was asked if a formal education (college degree) was required. As John Daly said, it isn't required, but the education would be extremely helpful. I'm sure that exam has been passed by a few people without degrees even if they are a tiny percentage.
How often does the panel get stumped on the MG segment? This was one of the most fun in a long time!
I think the panel didn't guess Andy Griffith despite many clues because they were not great television viewers. This was a time when theatre had prestige but TV was a brash newcomer. This show raised the status of television because it is superb light entertainment with intelligent talk and constant good humour.
Andy had done the well received movie "A Face In The Crowd" (1957) with his stunning portrayal of a musical guitar player who becomes too big for his britches, cast as a radio bigwig, before his stunning fall from the top.
What? TV had been around in homes for almost 20 years by then, its golden age having been the previous decade. Steve Allen was a TV star, not a movie star, and Andy Griffith was famous in 1965. He was first famous because he appeared in a TV play that went to Broadway, then to film in the 1950s called No Time For Sergeants. You’re off by about 10 years.
I am Soo sorry for miss Dorthies passing.
I hope we eventually learn the circumstances surrounding Miss Kilgallen. She was a complicated columnist. May she rest in peace.
Andy Griffith did a masterful job of disguising his voice!
When television stars had knowledge.and absolutel class.
RIP Sheriff Andy Taylor.
Too bad that his last movie role was in a poorly made "downer" of a film ("Waitress").
7:00. "Every major US airline uses Champion..." (visual of Boeing 707 takeoff). Jets have sparkplugs? Of course, they may be referring to the airlines' ground vehicles.
Jet engines have igniters, very much like spark plugs.
Back when good clean fun was IN and people were sane
Almost like people were smart when they said it was better to never to bring up politics or religion in polite company. Now everyone believes you must jam your view down other's throats and then accuse them of everything under the sun when they don't agree 100% with you. That's not enlightenment, it's called fascism and anti-intellectualism. And ironically we see it coming most from people who claim to be against it.
@@mattropolis7857 notice you only get 1 like for saying it like it is?
I think Arlene set a record. I wonder if anyone ever got to the answer more quickly.
Wow this was filmed just 8 days before Dorothy Kilgallen died.
Obviously
Regarding Bennett's introduction of John Daly - I'm certain there are many parts of New York where every "John" is a "Trick"...
This must have been a great show to watch! I'd say bring it back but I HATE all of today's celebrity trash.
Yes can you imagine the Kardashian’s as mystery guests? Ugh.
The first guest, William Price, looks like he was wearing his dad’s jacket. He is swimming in it. 😂
It would have been interesting to do follow-up programs to see what these people, like the boy working his way through college by farming pumpkins.
Karen Pryor, the porpoise trainer, is still alive and had an amazing career in the study of behavior. Her work in behavioral science revolutionize how animals are trained, turning from force and fear based to empathetic, positive, and effective methods of communication. She revolutionized the field of dog training and her company continues to be a leader in the education of trainers and caretakers of animals of all types and her work has improved the lives of humans as well. A life well lived!
Dorothy kilgallen died just 8 days after this show on November 8, 1965.
Eric -Yep, and she was murdered.
I think she died of a drug overdose.
+lissalives Smoot
Prove it - beyond a reasonable doubt. Cold, hard, evidentiary proof, please.
And if you do have cold, hard, evidentiary proof, you should really share it with the New York Police Department. I'm sure that they'd appreciate the help in clearing up a 53-year-old "cold case."
All that we know for certain is that Dorothy Kilgallen died, and that there were traces of alcohol and barbiturates in her bloodstream at the time of autopsy.
The NYPD has no power against the people who wanted her dead. I can't say for 100% she was murdered but I can say 100% that extremely powerful people wanted her dead
Jmccrack, Dorothy was murdered. She was an avid reader and always took off her make up before retiring to bed. She was found in bed fully made up & book propped up in her hands. Get this.. her reading glasses were on the dresser across the room. Knowing the secretive 'Warren Commission" and Dorothy's exclusive interview of Lee Harvey & his wife and her dropping tidbits in her column. Hmmm. Also, Dorothy was a drinker, not a druggie so the combo was deadly.
Bennet: have you appeared on this panel?
AG: no
Steve A: are you Steve Lawrence?
Steve A: are you Joey Bishop?
Wtf Steve?
Steve dosent take notes like Dorothy does.
The panel probably didn't watch "The Andy Griffith Sow", especially Dorothy, since it took place outside New York City.
+Joe Postove But they remembered him from the mid 1950s when he was based in New York playing nightclubs. They remembered his stand-up comedy routine "What it was, was football."
I didn’t know that Andy Griffith was in “The Lost Colony” as a kid over in Roanoke. I live in NC now but not near the coast!
My Dad looked so much like Andy Griffith it was uncanny. Same facial features and dark wavy hair. He was a wonderful guy too!
Arlene is a real doll!
This is my third time through all these shows, and watching Dorothy is harder each time as she approaches her end. For all the comments that she seems to be drunk or under barbiturates, she is as sharp as a tack tonight. Watch her identify the porpoise trainer, and you’ll agree.
I agree …I watch Andy Griffith every day ….he was. A HANDSOME MAN ……surely missed
15:54 -- One of the most famous advertising slogans ever
+soulierinvestments
Are you sure about that? :-)