I think a lot of people need to realize that Hoffman has been a suspect in many internet investigators kinda for a long time, before this guy ever came out without all this information. That being said some of his information is incorrect. The note written on the desk while weird and morbid was never conclusively linked to the zodiac. The hospital timeline and phone call timeline also don’t match up. I don’t know if Richard Hoffman is the zodiac or not, it seems to me that there’s just as much pointing towards him as there is pointing towards other suspects in the case.
Yeah. The best evidence exonerating RH is the supposed fact the was at the hospital when the call was made. But we only know that from HIS OWN report. Plus, clocks weren't synchronized back then. The police station phone booth was like 5 min away from the hospital. If the clocks were slightly incongruent, he could easily have made the call without anyone noticing.
People in the comments saying this dude is wrong and just roasting the way he looks and talks, describes the internet perfectly. Possibly one of the biggest cold case breaks, this guy could have actual proof from his family, and random video creators with 0 relation say: “he wasn’t the zodiac because of the other RUclips videos I’ve seen” internet is full of dweebs
Lol that's what they said about ALA. Coincidences believe it or not is not evidence. It's called circumstantial and it will not hold up in a court of law. You can find this rubbish with every single "suspect" in this case. This is just the next Gary Poste and will blow by in 3...2....1....
bro, you're talking like a kid yourself. coincidences are common. 'looking' like a police sketch doesn't mean a damn thing. spelling one word like a killer in a message doesn't mean a damn thing. the rest of this stuff is about as far away from a smoking gun as you can get. it's all very circumstantial and very little reason to jump on this theory. this is NOT how it's done
I already thought that Hoffman was the best suspect before this guy came out with his Tiktok. He was THERE at the Ferrin murder scene by his own admission just MINUTES before the murder.
Im 100 % convinced. He had the motive and oppertunity. And he speaks like the zodiac writes. And all the rest. Would like to see more photos of him as he looked then.
The Zodiac Killer demonstrated knowledge of crime scenes and police actions that was either not released to the public or was released in a manner that suggested he had direct access to privileged information. Some of the key pieces of information the Zodiac Killer shared that indicated insider knowledge include: 1. **Details of the Crimes**: - In his letters, the Zodiac Killer provided specific details about his attacks that were not widely known. For instance, in his letters following the murders at Blue Rock Springs and Lake Herman Road, he described the exact nature of the wounds, the types of weapons used, and other specifics that would likely have been known only to someone directly involved or someone with access to police reports. 2. **Paul Stine's Murder**: - After the murder of taxi driver Paul Stine in San Francisco, the Zodiac sent a letter to the *San Francisco Chronicle* that included a piece of Stine's bloody shirt. This act not only proved that the letter was genuinely from the killer but also indicated that he had retained evidence from the crime scene, which only the police would have known about in detail at that time. 3. **Threats to Schoolchildren**: - The Zodiac Killer once claimed in a letter that he planned to attack a school bus. While this threat was made public, the way he described his methods and plans showed a level of criminal thinking and understanding of police procedures that was concerning. 4. **Knowledge of Police Investigations**: - In several of his letters, the Zodiac seemed to have insight into the ongoing investigations. He taunted the police, making references to what they were doing and not doing, often criticizing their efforts in a way that suggested he was closely monitoring the case. 5. **Cipher Codes**: - The Zodiac sent ciphers along with his letters, some of which he claimed would reveal his identity. While this information was not exclusively known to the police, his ability to create such codes, and his confidence in police trying to crack them, indicated a complex understanding of the situation. 6. **Describing the Clothes of Victims**: - The Zodiac described the specific clothing of his victims, such as the use of a flashlight during one of the murders, which might not have been common public knowledge at the time. These examples suggest that the Zodiac Killer either had access to inside information or was highly observant and clever in his manipulation of public and police narratives. However, it remains unclear whether he had any direct connection to law enforcement or simply had a talent for acquiring and leveraging sensitive information.
This is how I thought it would come out one day someone would connect the dots in the zodiacs family they would find some stuff in a garage or storage or something. This dudes dots are pretty compelling
@@theycantallbezodiac idk if you really look into the shit I’ve been following the case ever since the movie came out when I was younger I’m 30 now it probably does make the most sense but who knows
@@clutchclaytv I've followed the case since the 90s, far better suspects than a guy who was in an ambulance with victims when Zodiac made the call. Zodiac also drive a car, Hoffman was on a motorcycle. So many individuals have come forward accusing deceased family members.
So let me get this straight. His Gdad was the first on the scene of Darlene's murder and when a film gets made his a consultant for the film but yet they never put him or a character playing him or even show the scene where he said he got in the ambulance with her to try and get some answers from her. Instead they skip 4 weeks after the murder. Really🤔 Plus if a persob was considered a suspect wluld you want them consultanting you cause has i said earlier coincidentally he scenes aren't in the movie only his name listed as a consultant in the credits the one part of the movie no one watches
@@RxYouth He doesn’t even remotely fit the profile that the Robbins kids saw that night of Paul Stine’s murder. He was in the ambulance and at the hospital with Darlene at the same time that Zodiac made the call from the phone booth.
Listen, I would be reacting the same way if I was in your position! Your excitement only shows that you have information that could potentially solve one of the most famous serial killer cases in American history and hopefully bring closure to all of his victims and their families. I'm definitely interested to see what happens with this! 7:34
hes not. The Zodiak was Arthur Leigh Allen. He was most likely friends with Robert Vaughn who wrote the letters which is why Arthur was never charged or connected to the letters because his handwriting was different. The man you said was shot, Mike, literally identified Arthur as the man who shot him... which is a confirmed Zodiak case. Before they could once again bring ARthur in for questioning, he died.... thats why this case will never be closed like the Jack the Ripper murders.
@@sh.boogies lmao who said he was that bald at the time of the murders? could still have a enough hair by the time they investigated him. hilarious why you think that balding means you were bald all your life lmao.
You know this is not his YT channel, right? His videos are being shared on this channel but it's another person's, not his. He is probably posting on TikTok
@@theycantallbezodiac because the evidence is crystal clear. A vellejo cop that was on duty in a unmarked police car in plain clothes at the time of the murder, in the area of the murder. 5 minutes before the crime he called that theres no vehicles in the area and everything is clear. He was also the first that arrived on scene and called it in 10 minutes later. Looks exactly like the aged suspect sketch. From headshape to glasses to even haircut and eyes. Had the same unique spelling mistakes like zodiac in the letters (what a coincidence huh?). One if the evidence pieces from zodica literally being signed: RH ( richard hoffmann) and the fact he lied about timelines to supervisors. And a girl being afraid of someone killing them saying richard is gonna kill us both, before being killed. She was a thottie and supposedly had an affair with a officer named richard. You cant be slow enough to ignore all that, or can you?🤦🏼♂️
@@mariewraight4969 its so many big tellers. So much really hard evidence. I 100% believe it was him. Go watch the interview with richard about the case… bone chilling the way he behaved and talked. Even talked about noticing and looking at her bra, like a creep. Its so obvious
@@younggunna4089 don't be silly, do you even know the case? "Looks exactly like the sketch", so did thousands of men back then. By the way, no witness described the eyes of Zodiac. As for RH, there's no evidence to prove the desk writing was Zodiac let alone the Bates murder. There are so many discrepancies in your theory and even more with this crazy accuser. Only Mageau mentioned 'Richard', no one else and he's always been an unreliable witness.
How many of those people's fathers were provably in the area, had access to the crime scene and every other thing mentioned? You're making a dumb comparison by ignoring all the relevant context.
We all struggle to be good spellers: Using two L's (control or controll) is not very idiopathic, and your GP was NOT the Zodiac Killer, until ( I got a red line for typing "untill") you provide a victim-trophy (drivers license, engraved jewelry, picture). Get ur money boo boo!
@5starben_ erm what the beta. Dont direspect my gyatt unc. I fought the gooners in ohio. They're sigmas inside of all of us. We just need to let it out.
why does this sound like he is bragging that granddad is possibly a murderer? Calling a murder viction a Thottie, not even remembering the victims names.. I am pretty sure, if granddad is the Zodiac, he definitely passed that arrogance down to this kid.
@@zenbliss7336 yea but I don’t think that the OP was being spiteful , he had evidence to back up his theory…you have not presented any evidence to disprove him….
I think a lot of people need to realize that Hoffman has been a suspect in many internet investigators kinda for a long time, before this guy ever came out without all this information. That being said some of his information is incorrect. The note written on the desk while weird and morbid was never conclusively linked to the zodiac. The hospital timeline and phone call timeline also don’t match up. I don’t know if Richard Hoffman is the zodiac or not, it seems to me that there’s just as much pointing towards him as there is pointing towards other suspects in the case.
About the hospital timeline just rememeber Richard WROTE the report
In that letter the writer literally spelled until as the abbreviated "till" with two l's.
Yeah. The best evidence exonerating RH is the supposed fact the was at the hospital when the call was made. But we only know that from HIS OWN report. Plus, clocks weren't synchronized back then. The police station phone booth was like 5 min away from the hospital. If the clocks were slightly incongruent, he could easily have made the call without anyone noticing.
People in the comments saying this dude is wrong and just roasting the way he looks and talks, describes the internet perfectly.
Possibly one of the biggest cold case breaks, this guy could have actual proof from his family, and random video creators with 0 relation say: “he wasn’t the zodiac because of the other RUclips videos I’ve seen”
internet is full of dweebs
LOLLLLL THISSSSS
Listened to this guy on Generation Why, and he's completely unconvincing.
Just a lot of "people don't understand", and no actual evidence
These kids in the comments dont realize how crazy this actually is. There are WAY too many coincidences.
There are many coincidences concerning numerous suspects
ruclips.net/video/uOMDG-0uSEA/видео.htmlsi=X3VX4umcm6wrCgpW
Lol that's what they said about ALA. Coincidences believe it or not is not evidence. It's called circumstantial and it will not hold up in a court of law. You can find this rubbish with every single "suspect" in this case. This is just the next Gary Poste and will blow by in 3...2....1....
bro, you're talking like a kid yourself. coincidences are common. 'looking' like a police sketch doesn't mean a damn thing. spelling one word like a killer in a message doesn't mean a damn thing. the rest of this stuff is about as far away from a smoking gun as you can get. it's all very circumstantial and very little reason to jump on this theory. this is NOT how it's done
Your grandpa smiled when telling that first interview.like he was reminiscing
I turned the volume off and watched, and woah that is sus. Pause at 4;56 to see him with his eyes closed and smiling.
I already thought that Hoffman was the best suspect before this guy came out with his Tiktok. He was THERE at the Ferrin murder scene by his own admission just MINUTES before the murder.
Im 100 % convinced. He had the motive and oppertunity. And he speaks like the zodiac writes. And all the rest. Would like to see more photos of him as he looked then.
@@KajsaG561 he isn't Zodiac
@@theycantallbezodiacif you read further into the story and the coincidences you can see that it’s too close to not call it
@@setz7260 Fr like one of the messages he signed rh
@@theycantallbezodiac Yes he indeed is, it is really obvious. If you do not see that you are blind.
@@KajsaG561 don't be silly. Do you even know the case?
I cant stand listening to this guy. Despite being interested in the subject. Its unlistenable.
Everything he says he prefaces with "mother fuck!ng..."
😂✅✅😂
He’s clout chasing from this and it’s weird, disgusting, and quite frankly annoying. He also said he used to be a cop, which I don’t believe.
I think his on mushrooms having a meltdown
My Dad is Ed Cruz, i was born and raised In the early 60’s. Know many of these people you speak of. We need to talk!
Not his channel. It's copied of Tik Tok.
The Zodiac Killer demonstrated knowledge of crime scenes and police actions that was either not released to the public or was released in a manner that suggested he had direct access to privileged information. Some of the key pieces of information the Zodiac Killer shared that indicated insider knowledge include:
1. **Details of the Crimes**:
- In his letters, the Zodiac Killer provided specific details about his attacks that were not widely known. For instance, in his letters following the murders at Blue Rock Springs and Lake Herman Road, he described the exact nature of the wounds, the types of weapons used, and other specifics that would likely have been known only to someone directly involved or someone with access to police reports.
2. **Paul Stine's Murder**:
- After the murder of taxi driver Paul Stine in San Francisco, the Zodiac sent a letter to the *San Francisco Chronicle* that included a piece of Stine's bloody shirt. This act not only proved that the letter was genuinely from the killer but also indicated that he had retained evidence from the crime scene, which only the police would have known about in detail at that time.
3. **Threats to Schoolchildren**:
- The Zodiac Killer once claimed in a letter that he planned to attack a school bus. While this threat was made public, the way he described his methods and plans showed a level of criminal thinking and understanding of police procedures that was concerning.
4. **Knowledge of Police Investigations**:
- In several of his letters, the Zodiac seemed to have insight into the ongoing investigations. He taunted the police, making references to what they were doing and not doing, often criticizing their efforts in a way that suggested he was closely monitoring the case.
5. **Cipher Codes**:
- The Zodiac sent ciphers along with his letters, some of which he claimed would reveal his identity. While this information was not exclusively known to the police, his ability to create such codes, and his confidence in police trying to crack them, indicated a complex understanding of the situation.
6. **Describing the Clothes of Victims**:
- The Zodiac described the specific clothing of his victims, such as the use of a flashlight during one of the murders, which might not have been common public knowledge at the time.
These examples suggest that the Zodiac Killer either had access to inside information or was highly observant and clever in his manipulation of public and police narratives. However, it remains unclear whether he had any direct connection to law enforcement or simply had a talent for acquiring and leveraging sensitive information.
I think he may have been a group of officers whom may have done it together.
This is how I thought it would come out one day someone would connect the dots in the zodiacs family they would find some stuff in a garage or storage or something. This dudes dots are pretty compelling
It's garbage
@@theycantallbezodiac idk if you really look into the shit I’ve been following the case ever since the movie came out when I was younger I’m 30 now it probably does make the most sense but who knows
@@clutchclaytv I've followed the case since the 90s, far better suspects than a guy who was in an ambulance with victims when Zodiac made the call. Zodiac also drive a car, Hoffman was on a motorcycle. So many individuals have come forward accusing deceased family members.
Imagine literally ticking "My grandpa was the Zodiac Killer" off your 2024 Bingo Card
He does not have the eyes of a killer. I'm not convinced.
@@EmperorDraconianIV what are the “eyes of a killer”? There’s no such thing
So let me get this straight. His Gdad was the first on the scene of Darlene's murder and when a film gets made his a consultant for the film but yet they never put him or a character playing him or even show the scene where he said he got in the ambulance with her to try and get some answers from her. Instead they skip 4 weeks after the murder. Really🤔
Plus if a persob was considered a suspect wluld you want them consultanting you cause has i said earlier coincidentally he scenes aren't in the movie only his name listed as a consultant in the credits the one part of the movie no one watches
I’m watching this in Omaha Nebraska. Trippy
Its crazy because as i was watching the movie the other day i was like i believe its a police officer
I do too. Just not his grandfather.
No evidence
This dudes grandfather was also a consultant on the film, if he was the zodiac how crazy is that?
@@RxYouth no he wasn't. He wasn't Zodiac
@@RxYouth He doesn’t even remotely fit the profile that the Robbins kids saw that night of Paul Stine’s murder. He was in the ambulance and at the hospital with Darlene at the same time that Zodiac made the call from the phone booth.
Listen, I would be reacting the same way if I was in your position! Your excitement only shows that you have information that could potentially solve one of the most famous serial killer cases in American history and hopefully bring closure to all of his victims and their families.
I'm definitely interested to see what happens with this! 7:34
He's talking shit
Shame the zodiac had grandchildren!
Hes happy that whatever the weather the money is now rolling in for him!
hes not. The Zodiak was Arthur Leigh Allen. He was most likely friends with Robert Vaughn who wrote the letters which is why Arthur was never charged or connected to the letters because his handwriting was different. The man you said was shot, Mike, literally identified Arthur as the man who shot him... which is a confirmed Zodiak case. Before they could once again bring ARthur in for questioning, he died.... thats why this case will never be closed like the Jack the Ripper murders.
The fact that Arthur was balding never bothered you eh? Hahahaa
@@sh.boogies lmao who said he was that bald at the time of the murders? could still have a enough hair by the time they investigated him. hilarious why you think that balding means you were bald all your life lmao.
I met him in a truck stop outside of Reno Nevada,,
@@arrowcrusher And?
Why not submit a dna sample to see if it matches the partial profile found on the stamps from his letters?
I believe it honestly
The Zodiac killer released a code of 13 digits of his name. So Richard Hoffman doesn't fit, unless it's Dick_Hoffman or DickyHoffman.
it could be that hes trying to throw police off
@@kinbruhRight no one would be smart enough to think to make the D a R nickname probably was Ricky
Ricky Hoffman works as 13 digits including the space
You can definitely see all that generational trauma all over his body!!!
😂
No….
His Name was John Parr Cox
Another terrible suspect
Daughter of Ed Cruz, we definitely need to talk, privately.
You know this is not his YT channel, right? His videos are being shared on this channel but it's another person's, not his. He is probably posting on TikTok
Oh dear, here comes another one trying to blame a family member.
To be fair, his reasoning is logical
@@mariewraight4969 what? How?
@@theycantallbezodiac because the evidence is crystal clear. A vellejo cop that was on duty in a unmarked police car in plain clothes at the time of the murder, in the area of the murder. 5 minutes before the crime he called that theres no vehicles in the area and everything is clear. He was also the first that arrived on scene and called it in 10 minutes later. Looks exactly like the aged suspect sketch. From headshape to glasses to even haircut and eyes. Had the same unique spelling mistakes like zodiac in the letters (what a coincidence huh?). One if the evidence pieces from zodica literally being signed: RH ( richard hoffmann) and the fact he lied about timelines to supervisors. And a girl being afraid of someone killing them saying richard is gonna kill us both, before being killed. She was a thottie and supposedly had an affair with a officer named richard. You cant be slow enough to ignore all that, or can you?🤦🏼♂️
@@mariewraight4969 its so many big tellers. So much really hard evidence. I 100% believe it was him. Go watch the interview with richard about the case… bone chilling the way he behaved and talked. Even talked about noticing and looking at her bra, like a creep. Its so obvious
@@younggunna4089 don't be silly, do you even know the case? "Looks exactly like the sketch", so did thousands of men back then. By the way, no witness described the eyes of Zodiac. As for RH, there's no evidence to prove the desk writing was Zodiac let alone the Bates murder. There are so many discrepancies in your theory and even more with this crazy accuser. Only Mageau mentioned 'Richard', no one else and he's always been an unreliable witness.
Has this been deleted off tik tok now?
no still up
@@dreamrealm1938 no, it’s still there
No. I just watched it.
him killed grandfather his that is timer The
@@Emmaromines-uh2jn??
This mf BARELY made it to the grave before people found out
This is methed up
Where is the evidence that he knew cryptography??
Fame Fame is all, what you want….Fame and Money…
I wanna be like him when I grow up
I would love to get transcripts of some of his old cases and the cases of the zodiac. And any copies u may have from ur grandfather's.
This guy is definitely on uppers.
Do you have info about the costume?
#WorstGrandkidEVER 😂
this guy is looking for attention.
You want only sell a Book…….
I'm not your grand father
No you are a kid
@@Mario-qq4in ok "the mother fucking zodiak"
He was a corporal
He just retired
Is he alive!?!?
@@Emmaromines-uh2jn no, in the video he says he passed away
Yeah, but how many people claimed their father(?) killed the Black Dahlia, too?
How many of those people's fathers were provably in the area, had access to the crime scene and every other thing mentioned? You're making a dumb comparison by ignoring all the relevant context.
@@FoxExcess 100% maybe if more people came forward, we’d actually find the killer
Why? Cuz he was a cop.
Ur special😊
We all struggle to be good spellers: Using two L's (control or controll) is not very idiopathic, and your GP was NOT the Zodiac Killer, until ( I got a red line for typing "untill") you provide a victim-trophy (drivers license, engraved jewelry, picture). Get ur money boo boo!
Ha ha ha😂😂😂😂😂😂
Middle name Lee?
Yes
My dad is the Zodiac so you must be my son.
sure!
My transgender bathroom is Xavier Dupon de linguonès
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@@BlueKANDYdragon 💀💀💀
And my father is I95 killer, my great uncle was the Torso Killer in Cleveland and my great great grandmother was Jack the Ripper.
The evidence for this is pretty damning.
Ur the cool guy in class
😂😂😂
He wants fame.
Erm what the sigma
........i hope ur not past 6th grade....
@5starben_ erm what the beta. Dont direspect my gyatt unc. I fought the gooners in ohio. They're sigmas inside of all of us. We just need to let it out.
@@aland4448 click the message bubble under this to respond ill make the @ blue
I have a few stories to share with you since your a retired officer. That I think would be something you could help me with. To put to rest.
why does this sound like he is bragging that granddad is possibly a murderer? Calling a murder viction a Thottie, not even remembering the victims names.. I am pretty sure, if granddad is the Zodiac, he definitely passed that arrogance down to this kid.
Think it’s more of shocked
Maybe you should see the whole video before commenting.
He said the victims names and he seems more shocked than ecstatic
These people have " issues" with a family member next thing there a serial killer
@@zenbliss7336 did you even watch the video?
@ReadbyWisteria I did and I know some facts about the case where a few things don't add up
I think some of the people who were accused by family members are most definitely killers 😳
@@mags2847 like gary Stewart or Debbie Perez?
@@zenbliss7336 yea but I don’t think that the OP was being spiteful , he had evidence to back up his theory…you have not presented any evidence to disprove him….
Be way more watchable of this regard wasn't swearing every other second with his gruff prison voice covered in horrible tattoos