Literally 10 seconds into the video and i'm on the floor laughing. Who's bright idea was it to put the flowers there LMAO. I've never laughed this much at a chess video. 4 minutes in and he finally moves it. I'm dead lol.
i've been studying the flora gambit my whole life and never have I seen such a brilliant display of confidence in the opening, you absolutely took advantage of the misplaced piece, and disregarded the attack, waiting to make your capture when the time was right.
My guess is because the light-square bishop is super powerful in the English, he doesn't want to trade it for the queen so early, or it takes away a lot of later control for those light-squares. I could be off though.
For the record at 5:58 black is just losing a piece if he develops the knight on b8. Engine says +3.42 with no compensation. The correct move is Nb6 or Nxc3.
He made a mistake about that , I was looking too for that, also try not to use engine and use your brain and your ideas, cause in chess your point of view matters the most ,(but that doesn't mean it's great) and you have to gain more knowledge.
Andrew Backhouse never doubt yourself, trust your intuition. you can verify yourself but never underestimate yourself as long as you know you need to learn more
4:20 1st instructional game (from 1968), not for latest theory but because it’s a nice game played by white. 21:16 2nd instructional game, from black’s pov. 34:45 3rd instructional game 48:16 Completed watching.
Great video. It's funny, the opening i play most with white is the English and the French with black and you hit them back to back. Would love to hear your analysis of the Budapest.
It's very very very instructive this video. And I especially like [40:43], where Sam Sevian had the option to win a pawn by giving up his dark squared bishop. I have been trying to improve my calculation skill, and have devised numerous philosophies to aid me. The idea of calculation being various roads that you must trod on to reach your destination, with road signs giving you a hint on the right route to use. I thought that in this situation, bishop takes knight was the correct road to turn on; but when grand master Jonathan Shranz said it was wrong and showed concrete variations I was shocked! Where am I going wrong in my evaluation functions. Is it that I needed to do more calculations, or is more instinctual judgement of Chess positions is what that needs improvement.
probably cuz queen takes and then u got ur queen in the game and not much can stop it after the knight moves. There also isn't any point in taking, there is not much advantages but when d5 takes it has an advantage for white as he/she got an open file. (my opinion)
Thought it was a monty python sketch when the flowers appeared but he just kept talking like the flowers weren’t fronting him.. it’s like they’re saying ‘I’m bigger than you chess boy, imma stand here n take your limelight, watch a gonna do.’ Nothing. You’ll do nothin chess boy
I can't understand, it is at 5:58 (the reversed Sicilian after c4-e5, Kc3-Kf6, g3-d5, cd5:-Kd5:). Why doesn't white just take the knight on d5? Am I missing something here?
5:58 The presenter says Be6 is not very common today, instead black usually plays Nc6? That would immediately loose a piece right ? Nxd5 or Bxd5 ? What am I missing ?
Well memorizing moves helps with knowing the best counter or move against your opponent in the v early of games. If you happen to play against someone who knows more about that opening than you do you might get put into traps and/or positions that make you lose
@@itsink6754 believe me.memorizing isn't gonna help you.the moment ur opponent decides to go for a infamous sideline or totally out of theory line,you are on your own and u need to know why the hell u played the moves u played and what are your plans in the position.basically u need to understand the position rather than memorizing the moves.
@@_s_l well even if the opponent plays something sideline its still a win win for a prodigy person cause they just memorised a new strong move which they will probably research later in coming days so they again know the strongest move to that counter move ,I understand how you feel about people memorising the game but its the bitter truth of chess ,"the person with most memorising power and best end game skills rules the world of chess like Magnus does , Magnus literally remembers games that he played years ago when he was newcomer
I love how he hangs his knight in the beginning with Nc6, instantly plays Nf3 THEN Nb6 but after Nc6?? Nxd5 wins a piece, therefore first Nb6 is suggested ;) Remember your move orders buddy!!
Bg5 looks like a good move @ 13:00. If he blocks with Pf6 you go Qb3 check then maybe ideas of Rf7. If he takes with Ba4 then you take back on D8, he takes with Rd8 then you go Rc8 then you trade rooks and then you go Bc5 and attack the pinned bishop. Whichever choice black makes is good for us, kinda looks better if he takes on A4.
Dana Reizniece-Ozola a guy you have never heard of? Haha, for your information, Jonathan: this lady at the last chess Olympiad won against women's world champion Hou Yi Fan, and besides her excellence in chess she is also Minister of Finance in her home country Latvia!
What lovely lovely flowers! I'd say flower to c4, immediately putting pressure on the flower guarding e3. This is standard when playing the Florist's Gambit. Red declines the gambit by playing flower to c4, attacking the c4 flower. And a then yellow flower continues with development.
4:21 why does he do first name, last name for Mikhail Botvinnik, but reversed for Portisch? I should mention that other notable Hungarian players include Leko Peter and Polgar Judit.
I would be interested in the queen´s gambit trade variation after 11.f3 from the white side. (1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.d5: d5: 5.Bg5 c6 (...Be7 is also possible) 6.Qc2 Be7 7.e3 Nbd7 8.Bd3 0-0 (im not sure what to do if he plays Nh5/Nf8) 9.Nge2 Re8 10.0-0 Nf8 11.f3! and we are in the starting position from the mainline. Im would like to learn how to push in the center while creating a pawn weakness. how the game could develop. and how i can expliot his pawn weakness. thx, alet
Thanks for another great vid - very helpful. If an opponent responds to the English opening with a semi-slav type structure, is it best to transition into a more 'main-line' attack and put the bishop on D3 (as opposed to the fianchetto)? Similarly, if an opponent can force an exchange (their dark square bishop for Knight on C3) AND double your pawns on the C file, do you generally abandon the English?
12:55 i thought of Qg4 and Bh6 18:03 i expected white to play Bd4 or Ng6 and Nh4 to terrorize black in bishop style 18:11 maybe Bxe8 followed by Qg4 i guess 46:47 why? Rd8 is even better now...
verrry interresting. gave the impression I could play the English; which is pretty good trick, since i would actually get my ass kicked for sure. Seriously, very nice video.
It is difficult to find info about how to play the English opening. It would be really nice if you could make a several part series on the English and how counter black's various defenses.
Great video! Learned a lot. One bit of advice. The camera change around the 34th minute was ill-advised. Otherwise, very useful information here. Thanks!
Wow it's been four years since I studied chess and I lost 400 ELO. here we go again learning the basics of the english opening, thanks for the content!
The thing I like about c4 is that as white, from move one, you dictate the opening - it's the English. While when opening with e4, your opponent can turn it into a Sicilian, French, Petroff, etc., and you are playing your opponent's game and he's probably more schooled on it than you are.
yea right.. thats why i dont like e4 for white... since people like prepare 99% for that move.. and im not a high player, thats mean the black is not GM that knows all the tricks and trap and how to counter english..
Flower to e4 is such a strong move
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Once the flowers were placed I thought to myself, this comment section is going to be good.
Lmao same
lmao
WTF!!!! LOL
Hhahhahahhah
At first I thought the flowers were some sort of joke Then, I realized WTF!!
Literally 10 seconds into the video and i'm on the floor laughing. Who's bright idea was it to put the flowers there LMAO. I've never laughed this much at a chess video. 4 minutes in and he finally moves it. I'm dead lol.
Ok
im glad someone else has the same stupid sense of humour as me xD
I seriously just laughed uncontrollably all by myself for about 4 straight minutes. That flower move was too much!!!
Right, it's too much laughter for a chess video !
It was amusing, but I can’t imagine it made your arse fall off. I’d sue if it is the case.
Everyone is complaining about the flowers but they couldn't move earlier since there was a pin on them by the bishop on G2.
I hate you. =)
hahahaha 🤣
Lol
Thats good. Hahahs
Zaitann, your profession should be professional RUclips commenter.
Who the hell puts the flowers right there at the beginning and why doesn't he remove them immediately lol.
+Jesse Donovan Haha, that was awsome. I REALLY hope it's on purpose. My kind of humor. "Just pretend it's not there, it's gonna be awsome funny!"
+Jesse Donovan My guess: Ben Finegold was playing a joke on his in-house competition. Watch out for Jonathan's reply in Ben's next video :-)
+Abrasjefen lmaoooo it was totally on purpose .. he even says it :D .. "enough of that now" as he removes it :D:D..
I guess he's just not a beard guy. ;)
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Schrantz just refutes the dangerous Flowers Gambit in the English by the move "Enough of that..." (2 exclamation marks!).
As recommended by Ben Finegold
lol
hahahahaha Best comment ever (!!)
He wasn’t phased, he could see right through that pin haha
😂
He wasted no time in blocking his entire face with flowers.
David Holden very poor positional weakness
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Great lecture on the flowers gambit declined. Solid performance.
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i've been studying the flora gambit my whole life and never have I seen such a brilliant display of confidence in the opening, you absolutely took advantage of the misplaced piece, and disregarded the attack, waiting to make your capture when the time was right.
At 5:58, after Nc6, isn't the Knight on d5 hanging? I think you are supposed to play Nb6 now and only play Nc6 after that.
6:00 How can he develop a knight? What about bishop takes on D5???
I guess its because white loses tempo.
But after analyzing through chess com that is the best move if
Yup. That was a piece blunder.
My guess is because the light-square bishop is super powerful in the English, he doesn't want to trade it for the queen so early, or it takes away a lot of later control for those light-squares. I could be off though.
@@visus6906 wtf no man unless there is positional or tactical compensation with a winning advantage a piece won is a piece won
He was glad to have two people in the room. Bet he never expected this video to have over 500k views seven years later.
Yep, before the chess boom of 2020. That room would probably be a lot fuller now.
That flower is extremely knowledgeable in the english opening variations. I'm impressed.
No one showed? Well, damn- we’re here and we appreciate you for it!
For the record at 5:58 black is just losing a piece if he develops the knight on b8. Engine says +3.42 with no compensation. The correct move is Nb6 or Nxc3.
+Andrew Backhouse I agree he's gonna lose the knight
He made a mistake about that , I was looking too for that, also try not to use engine and use your brain and your ideas, cause in chess your point of view matters the most ,(but that doesn't mean it's great) and you have to gain more knowledge.
I noticed it without using an engine, then later checked before commenting as I'm not a master.
Andrew Backhouse never doubt yourself, trust your intuition. you can verify yourself but never underestimate yourself as long as you know you need to learn more
Andrew Backhouse yes never verify your suspicion with the engine. Blindly trust your intuition always.
33:50 what's the fastest mate? I see queen to e3, #1!
He probably doesn't think good under pressure..
@@michaelroditis1952 Very few people do.
Rook to e5# as well
@@jameschurch2441
King eats the pawn, not the fastest way then
What about Qg4 then ?
4:20 1st instructional game (from 1968), not for latest theory but because it’s a nice game played by white.
21:16 2nd instructional game, from black’s pov.
34:45 3rd instructional game
48:16 Completed watching.
Tom Lau thanks
TY!!
Fun fact, the "player you have never heard of" at 21:20 is the current Minister of Economy of Latvia.
+Augusts Bautra lol ! for real?
+Augusts Bautra who cares latvia is some shitty african country right ?
Thimo Jansen are you from Texas ?
roumi123 Nope
Thimo Jansen how come?
The fact that they still went ahead and uploaded the flower to RUclips...get me that subscribe button.
In 33:49 isn't it check mate in one after Qe3?
Qg4 too I think
+psychoreaper86 I yelled the same thing at my computer screen :p
Aye, both Qe3 and Qg4 are checkmates in 1 move and it't funny how he's wondering: "what's the fastest way..." :)
Re5 too
@@jamesmanuelpardo6766 Re5 leaves d4 undefended.
@5:58 isn't Nc6 a blunder because the knight on d5 is defended once but attacked twice so white could just take the knight?
Same question on my mind. Came to comments section looking for an answer. Let me know too.
Forced mate at 33:41 would be Rg3 Kf2 Qh2 and then either Kf1 or Ke1 is met with Rg1 mate.
That works. Faster is Qg3 then Qe3#/Qg4#
This is the funniest video I’ve watched in awhile
Great video. It's funny, the opening i play most with white is the English and the French with black and you hit them back to back.
Would love to hear your analysis of the Budapest.
@33:49 Queen to E3
huh?....I thought tht was a gag.............the flower
fess04 j
at 14:52 why not just block with your queen? is there something i'm not seeing?
+tesla_was_cool discovered attack on black's queen when white does Ng5+
That poinsettia dominated the opening!
Slight mistake on 5:57. Knight is hanging, so it has to move to b6 before Nc6
The plant is an amazing chess GM. I did not know that flowers could play such advanced chess. Are trees btw. able to beat computers?
They know all the branches.
@@gm2407 noice
It's very very very instructive this video. And I especially like [40:43], where Sam Sevian had the option to win a pawn by giving up his dark squared bishop.
I have been trying to improve my calculation skill, and have devised numerous philosophies to aid me. The idea of calculation being various roads that you must trod on to reach your destination, with road signs giving you a hint on the right route to use. I thought that in this situation, bishop takes knight was the correct road to turn on; but when grand master Jonathan Shranz said it was wrong and showed concrete variations I was shocked!
Where am I going wrong in my evaluation functions. Is it that I needed to do more calculations, or is more instinctual judgement of Chess positions is what that needs improvement.
He's not a grandmaster lol.
The flower attack opening. The reverse colour sicilian with a pink touch. The greek 'flower' gift gambit.
I didn't understand why at 05:58 black plays Nc6? wouldn't white capture the Knight on d5 as it is only defended by the queen and attacked twice?
15:57 why not QC4? Setting up discovered checks!
5:58 why does white not just take on D5?
probably cuz queen takes and then u got ur queen in the game and not much can stop it after the knight moves. There also isn't any point in taking, there is not much advantages but when d5 takes it has an advantage for white as he/she got an open file. (my opinion)
@@kaio6185 lol what?! There's a bishop on g2.
Thought it was a monty python sketch when the flowers appeared but he just kept talking like the flowers weren’t fronting him.. it’s like they’re saying ‘I’m bigger than you chess boy, imma stand here n take your limelight, watch a gonna do.’ Nothing. You’ll do nothin chess boy
wtf flower wants to have exposure .
I can't understand, it is at 5:58 (the reversed Sicilian after c4-e5, Kc3-Kf6, g3-d5, cd5:-Kd5:). Why doesn't white just take the knight on d5? Am I missing something here?
I think he confused the move order
5:56 Nc6 is not an option right? The knight on d5 would just be lost.
In 5:59 black develops a knight but isn’t that move a blunder cause the only piece protecting d5 is the queen?
I REALLY ENJOY THE SHOUTING THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE VIDEO.
5:58 The presenter says Be6 is not very common today, instead black usually plays Nc6? That would immediately loose a piece right ? Nxd5 or Bxd5 ? What am I missing ?
@5:57 That hangs Black's knight, right? Am I missing something???
Yep the Knight hangs
5:58 why dont you just take the piece as white since the D5 knight has only one defender?
I was hoping someone would explain this
At 6m why did white not take the knight on D5? it was not protected
Telling the ideas behind moves and main ideas of the opening instead of making us memorize all those moves like idiots is really great!!
Well memorizing moves helps with knowing the best counter or move against your opponent in the v early of games. If you happen to play against someone who knows more about that opening than you do you might get put into traps and/or positions that make you lose
@@itsink6754 believe me.memorizing isn't gonna help you.the moment ur opponent decides to go for a infamous sideline or totally out of theory line,you are on your own and u need to know why the hell u played the moves u played and what are your plans in the position.basically u need to understand the position rather than memorizing the moves.
@@_s_l well even if the opponent plays something sideline its still a win win for a prodigy person cause they just memorised a new strong move which they will probably research later in coming days so they again know the strongest move to that counter move ,I understand how you feel about people memorising the game but its the bitter truth of chess ,"the person with most memorising power and best end game skills rules the world of chess like Magnus does , Magnus literally remembers games that he played years ago when he was newcomer
5:58 Am i missing something? The "usual" move 5. ... Nc6 is losing a piece, no?
He can take back the knight with his Queen.
Hanan Sheikh no, because bishop on g2 would capture the queen!
if youre going to be a flower ventriloquist at least make it look like your lips aren't moving
The flower banter is soo good
At 05:59, rather than Nf3 after black plays Nc6, I don't understand how Nd5 doesn't simply win black's knight.
I love how he hangs his knight in the beginning with Nc6, instantly plays Nf3 THEN Nb6 but after Nc6?? Nxd5 wins a piece, therefore first Nb6 is suggested ;) Remember your move orders buddy!!
Came for this
@@BrendanClune 😀
18:05 why not just take the rook on e8 with the bishop?
U don’t ve to ask anyone to subscribe ,, the content is so good that it’s an automatic option
What were the flowers meant to hide? They immediately gave him an allergy with a tempo! They were an absolute pin to his face.
33:52 When you wondered what's the fastest way, queen E3 checkmate in 1 .......
Those flowers are amazing
Bg5 looks like a good move @ 13:00. If he blocks with Pf6 you go Qb3 check then maybe ideas of Rf7. If he takes with Ba4 then you take back on D8, he takes with Rd8 then you go Rc8 then you trade rooks and then you go Bc5 and attack the pinned bishop. Whichever choice black makes is good for us, kinda looks better if he takes on A4.
Dana Reizniece-Ozola a guy you have never heard of? Haha, for your information, Jonathan: this lady at the last chess Olympiad won against women's world champion Hou Yi Fan, and besides her excellence in chess she is also Minister of Finance in her home country Latvia!
that’s cool
AT 5:58 we cant play Nc6 as the knight on d5 is hanging
At 19:43, I was hoping that white played Qf7+ winning Black’s Queen and either rook after
What lovely lovely flowers! I'd say flower to c4, immediately putting pressure on the flower guarding e3. This is standard when playing the Florist's Gambit. Red declines the gambit by playing flower to c4, attacking the c4 flower. And a then yellow flower continues with development.
4:21 why does he do first name, last name for Mikhail Botvinnik, but reversed for Portisch? I should mention that other notable Hungarian players include Leko Peter and Polgar Judit.
fantastic lecture Jonathan
Yasser is by far better! :P
33:50, Qe3#, no? Am I missing something?
5:58 isn't d5 knight hanging?
Hey, I have a question. At the time 5:58 the white knight c3 takes black knight d5? I don't really understand if this is intentional?
he made a blunder, the right move is Nb6 not Nc6
33:49
I think ... Qe3 is mate?
Jonathan is the best! He should start streaming.
I would be interested in the queen´s gambit trade variation after 11.f3 from the white side.
(1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.d5: d5: 5.Bg5 c6 (...Be7 is also possible) 6.Qc2 Be7 7.e3 Nbd7 8.Bd3 0-0 (im not sure what to do if he plays Nh5/Nf8) 9.Nge2 Re8 10.0-0 Nf8 11.f3! and we are in the starting position from the mainline.
Im would like to learn how to push in the center while creating a pawn weakness. how the game could develop. and how i can expliot his pawn weakness.
thx, alet
5:58 Doesn't that drop a piece after Nxd5?
33:50 is Qe3+ not checkmate?
14:50 can we play black queen to d5
4:26 And it was in this position the arbitor removed the flowers from the chessboard
Sir at 41:53 minutes black could have pinned rook and knight rather than pushing up the pawn
33:51 wasn't Qe3 the fastest way?
Thanks for another great vid - very helpful. If an opponent responds to the English opening with a semi-slav type structure, is it best to transition into a more 'main-line' attack and put the bishop on D3 (as opposed to the fianchetto)? Similarly, if an opponent can force an exchange (their dark square bishop for Knight on C3) AND double your pawns on the C file, do you generally abandon the English?
At 5:59, why wouldn't white simply take Nd4 with either his bishop or knight?
I think he just made a mistake. 5...Nb6 is played straight away (you don't play Nc6 first).
Hey, Jonathan at 33:56 Qe3# is the fastest mate.
I hope you still making new videos because it really help a lot to us beginners. Thank you for the Nice video.
16:50 - 17:49 AMAZING series of moves!
12:55 i thought of Qg4 and Bh6
18:03 i expected white to play Bd4 or Ng6 and Nh4 to terrorize black in bishop style
18:11 maybe Bxe8 followed by Qg4 i guess
46:47 why? Rd8 is even better now...
33:51 isn't Qe3 just mate in 1 lol?
verrry interresting. gave the impression I could play the English; which is pretty good trick, since i would actually get my ass kicked for sure. Seriously, very nice video.
41:56 why not Na3?
at 6:00 why not Nxd5?
c4 is explosive!
The most explosive opening in chess.
The floor is made out of floor
what if black plays D5? whats the best move for white
At 14:52 why doesn't black just play Qd5?
Nf5 wins the queen
He is like Wilson from "Home Improvement".Plant is just one way to hide the face :)
It is difficult to find info about how to play the English opening. It would be really nice if you could make a several part series on the English and how counter black's various defenses.
6:02 isn't it a free knight?
Vikhram Ravi no, there’s a queen
@@rishijoshi7989 review it from 5 seconds back.... You'd see there are two pieces attacking but only one defending
Great video! Learned a lot. One bit of advice. The camera change around the 34th minute was ill-advised. Otherwise, very useful information here. Thanks!
Wow it's been four years since I studied chess and I lost 400 ELO. here we go again learning the basics of the english opening, thanks for the content!
did you go from 2400 to 2000 or from 401 to 1?
@@nobodyelse-h6h I think the lowest elo is 100
Would you show a proper response for Black when playing against the Wayward Queen, and done traps if they exist?
It isnt by St Louis chess club but it helped me
33:45 There's forced mate in two.
1.) ..., Qg3+
2.) Ke4, Qe4#
Not Qe4, but rather Qe3# or Qg4#
@@chessandmathguy Right you are. I meant Qe3#, not sure if I typoed or it autocorrected, but you're absolutely right.
A good start. I've noticed that white can get in trouble in the English when black plays c6. Why is that?
If u can do some more videos about english with great games.......that would be fantastic
The thing I like about c4 is that as white, from move one, you dictate the opening - it's the English. While when opening with e4, your opponent can turn it into a Sicilian, French, Petroff, etc., and you are playing your opponent's game and he's probably more schooled on it than you are.
yea right.. thats why i dont like e4 for white... since people like prepare 99% for that move.. and im not a high player, thats mean the black is not GM that knows all the tricks and trap and how to counter english..
@@happyfish1212 English is great... The opening as well as the spelling 🗿
Your videos are very instructive
33:49 does Qxe3 work?