I have 2010 gaggia classic. Could I apply the same modify? The only one I did was buy a gauge and adjust machine pressure. Tried also to buy a no pressurized filter but coffe was very bad, cold and without cream/foam. So I just using the bundle filter with "cream valve" SINCE 2012 but reqlly disappointed with result. I tried several kind of espresso powder coffy but never try to grind it on my own. Greetings from italy, sorry for my eng!
I would rather get a PWM controller for the flow control than a PID, for a machine that cannot do flat temperature before and during the shot, set to a 96c or whatever the temperature doesn't do much to the shots.
@@notmyrealhandle I think it’s a fun thing to do if you already own the machine, but if not, I would suggest getting something already integrated. It will be a cleaner design, and probably have better resale value.
Ahhh Tom, very nice video! I‘ve just started my coffee journey. I actually wanted to jump in with an espresso machine, but then decided to develope my sensory skills, whilst getting to know some pour over methods. Because there is such a vast variety of espresso machines and I woudn‘t know where to tune in, I planned the 2. step to be, getting a used Gaggia Classic pro + mod. So, after this video, to me it‘s quite clear what the journey‘s going to look like. Thanks a lot!
I noticed that the default PID settings for pro model may be not perfect enough because a 3 degree Celsius dropped during a 30s brewing. Do you have any recommendation for the PID settings for Pro model?
The only influence it has is on the voltage of the pump, and it switches the potential to the heating coils too, but all PID kits do that. I suppose one would have to see if there's any long term effects of limiting the voltage on the pump.
Hey Tom! Great video once again! Do you have any suggestions on where to purchase the Gaggia CP, preferably within the EU? In my country it appears to be out of stock and in the few shops that it is available, it is massively overpriced (450 euros and more). Thanks in advance!
Well, as I understand this is easier to install because there is no firmware to deal with, flashing of hardware, or programming required. The original builds of the Gagguino required digging into such material. I don't know if newer kits have simplified the process yet. Maybe someone else can speak to that.
Well, it's connected to the pump, and limits the voltage, so it ultimately limits the flow. But yes, the pressure should be controllable so that the gate that the spring would provide is likely not an issue anymore.
Lower water debit is usually a bad idea as the bottom of the puck doesn’t get saturated until late in the shot. At least that’s the way lance hendrik explained it in his pressure and flow video. He was really speaking to the pre infusion side of things but also as a general statement on extraction.
I would agree with that. You have to make sure that you have enough water debit to get the puck saturated, so you do have to play with the Settings. Sometimes, I had the water debit too low, and it was not a properly extracted puck. So beware that you will need to experiment.
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I have 2010 gaggia classic. Could I apply the same modify?
The only one I did was buy a gauge and adjust machine pressure. Tried also to buy a no pressurized filter but coffe was very bad, cold and without cream/foam. So I just using the bundle filter with "cream valve" SINCE 2012 but reqlly disappointed with result. I tried several kind of espresso powder coffy but never try to grind it on my own. Greetings from italy, sorry for my eng!
How in the world are you able to get that pigtail connected (@16:10) that still allows that "L" connector to reattach?? I've been struggling with that
I take it this does cannot connect to Bluetooth scales to stop shots based on weight?
No, there is no Bluetooth chip on this controller.
I would rather get a PWM controller for the flow control than a PID, for a machine that cannot do flat temperature before and during the shot, set to a 96c or whatever the temperature doesn't do much to the shots.
I'm looking into investing in this machine and kit, but at the cost, is it actually worth it, or just put all that money into another machine?
@@notmyrealhandle I think it’s a fun thing to do if you already own the machine, but if not, I would suggest getting something already integrated. It will be a cleaner design, and probably have better resale value.
Ahhh Tom, very nice video! I‘ve just started my coffee journey. I actually wanted to jump in with an espresso machine, but then decided to develope my sensory skills, whilst getting to know some pour over methods. Because there is such a vast variety of espresso machines and I woudn‘t know where to tune in, I planned the 2. step to be, getting a used Gaggia Classic pro + mod. So, after this video, to me it‘s quite clear what the journey‘s going to look like. Thanks a lot!
I noticed that the default PID settings for pro model may be not perfect enough because a 3 degree Celsius dropped during a 30s brewing. Do you have any recommendation for the PID settings for Pro model?
Hi Tom, I like your informative video's. You might consider stirring your cups before drinking, to mix all solubles.
Thanks for another super informative video! Would love to see you do a PID mod for the Delonghi ECP with this or another kit!
i ordered the last 1 for evo pro so its out of stock for now. Looking forward to install everything in a few weeks when it arrive.
Does this kit can damage at future my gaggia?
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The only influence it has is on the voltage of the pump, and it switches the potential to the heating coils too, but all PID kits do that. I suppose one would have to see if there's any long term effects of limiting the voltage on the pump.
Hey Tom! Great video once again! Do you have any suggestions on where to purchase the Gaggia CP, preferably within the EU? In my country it appears to be out of stock and in the few shops that it is available, it is massively overpriced (450 euros and more). Thanks in advance!
Which country? I would suggest avoiding the Evo by the way, until they figure out the boiler coating issue.
Hello Tom. Great video. Could you please share your opinion why do one need all this kind PIDs if there's much better options like Gaguino projects?
Well, as I understand this is easier to install because there is no firmware to deal with, flashing of hardware, or programming required. The original builds of the Gagguino required digging into such material. I don't know if newer kits have simplified the process yet. Maybe someone else can speak to that.
Thanks for this. I really like how you approach these reviews.
This kit is connected to the solenoid valve of the machine, excellent, no need for springs to change the working pressure.🧐👍
Well, it's connected to the pump, and limits the voltage, so it ultimately limits the flow. But yes, the pressure should be controllable so that the gate that the spring would provide is likely not an issue anymore.
Lower water debit is usually a bad idea as the bottom of the puck doesn’t get saturated until late in the shot. At least that’s the way lance hendrik explained it in his pressure and flow video. He was really speaking to the pre infusion side of things but also as a general statement on extraction.
I would agree with that. You have to make sure that you have enough water debit to get the puck saturated, so you do have to play with the Settings. Sometimes, I had the water debit too low, and it was not a properly extracted puck. So beware that you will need to experiment.
what's the capacity of the cup you're using? Is that a 120ml cup?
No, it's like 80ml to the brim.