Every University’s Worst Nightmare

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  • @VALUETAINMENT
    @VALUETAINMENT  4 года назад +80

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    • @diannh2894
      @diannh2894 4 года назад +7

      This is so SCARY. I love your show. Patrick, would you ever make a video on the naked communist? Reagan once tried to warn our people. I am so worried they are succeeding. What can we do to help get the word out?? These kids are being taught capitalism is a bad thing. America is in serious trouble! Please respond if you can!
      Thank you, Brandi

    • @robertbarkho4098
      @robertbarkho4098 4 года назад +7

      I guess Google will show you how to perform a surgeries or how to fix your electronics.

    • @animus3328
      @animus3328 4 года назад +2

      I am server at a Casino....i have ideas in restaurant business...i am 62 years old...want to be rich before dying...any ideas....* excuse my english...you are very smart...

    • @juansoto623
      @juansoto623 4 года назад +2

      @@animus3328 invest in silver and gold

    • @juansoto623
      @juansoto623 4 года назад +2

      I go to college to help me advance in my personal plans which do not require a degree. Qualify for grants and pass classes equals no debt for me. The cash will run out if I decide to stay for a degree then I would owe. Not part of my plan.

  • @AxemanMessiah
    @AxemanMessiah 3 года назад +803

    "I never let my schooling interfere with my education." -Mark Twain

    • @namenotfound8747
      @namenotfound8747 3 года назад +7

      Mark Twain was an autodidact, 99.5% of people in this world are not anywhere near that. So unless you are the .5%, this quote doesn’t apply to you.

    • @AxemanMessiah
      @AxemanMessiah 3 года назад +9

      @@namenotfound8747 Did you know 105.8% of statistics are made up on the spot? Don't underestimate the number, there are quite a few, and most humans have an innate desire to learn on subjects they are interested in; add that with powerful tools like the internet and you have a formula for a revolution. It's politics that have prevented the takeover of merits via virtual learning, not very different on how hard they are trying to make decentralized banking seem inferior and hiding the truth of private centralized banking controlling the economy.

    • @namenotfound8747
      @namenotfound8747 3 года назад +5

      @@AxemanMessiah Child's play. Humans are inclined to learn, but we all unequally capable of doing so. Simply put, autodidacts all display levels of genius. But not all geniuses are autodidacts. Without the fundamentals, you lose more then you would gain. Because the people that are self taught, are already doing it. Only look at human history to find them. Whenever humans have decided that they "knew" better, that they have figured out some ultimate truth, and forsaken the knowledge of the past, it has only ended in tragedy. The annihilation of paganism resulted in the destruction of the library of Alexandria, which had nearly all the known knowledge of that time in the region. Knowledge that would take over 1000 years to be rediscovered in the Islamic golden age. Or look at the cultural revolution of China, killed 20 million people trying to leave the knowledge of the past behind. WWII: blame Jews, Cambodian genocide: blame the educated. We could do this all day. Learn history, not prophecy.

    • @AxemanMessiah
      @AxemanMessiah 3 года назад +1

      @@namenotfound8747 Not sure if you got the message, I am saying virtualized learning can replace occupations that do not require licensure with the modern tools we have, so it is not "self-taught" but a school.
      Regarding your example, there as just as many examples countering it.
      It is not a prophecy, it's happening today..you are using it right now. ;)

    • @namenotfound8747
      @namenotfound8747 3 года назад

      @@AxemanMessiah I do not oppose virtualizing education of any kind if done right. I do oppose when people start saying we should start gutting elements out that they don't like because of convenience. I don't care if my phone knows the answer to a math question before I do, the moment society says that we don't need to learn the fundamentals of education because we have modern tools, so lets just go straight to what we "want", we lose sight of what we "need" to keep progressing forward. That kind of flawed thinking comes from people that don't know or want to know history at a deep level, and don't respect the laws of physics. New technology doesn't automatically trump or replace the old. A computer does make it easier to communicate, but if tomorrow some jackass says since we have computers, we shouldn't worry about learning to write. What's next? Let's not learn how to read? Because we have computers that do it better then we do. licensures and accreditation is there to stop stupidity, do institutions stray from there core objective, yes. But getting lazy and saying screw math, I'm a writer, what do I care? Or any other craze and delusional notion, pick your poison.

  • @user-vc2pm5xv7s
    @user-vc2pm5xv7s 4 года назад +777

    College professor here, agree to your point, worried about my job...

    • @saullopez602
      @saullopez602 4 года назад +91

      Kids today are brainwashed by that “college lifestyle”. Your job won’t be going anywhere soon...

    • @MattGarcyaDC
      @MattGarcyaDC 4 года назад +36

      you'll be fine for awhile. But look at another career lol

    • @michealcolt210
      @michealcolt210 4 года назад +49

      @@saullopez602 most of the time its not the kids its the parents

    • @saullopez602
      @saullopez602 4 года назад +8

      Micheal Colt I say half and half

    • @dishappywithlife2556
      @dishappywithlife2556 4 года назад +13

      Yup!! I agree you should worry!! Times are changing!!!

  • @daveleger2002
    @daveleger2002 3 года назад +35

    I am accidentally the perfect example of this... I'm a highschool dropout, but I had a love of computers, then networking.
    I am self taught and companies I've worked for have always provided me courses of their own product focus.
    I'm now about to retire in the next 12 months and have a very good salary over the years...
    Let you passion drive your expertise, and learn on your own...

  • @GeneralChangOfDanang
    @GeneralChangOfDanang 3 года назад +376

    So basically companies are starting to use common sense in hiring, rather than looking for a piece of paper.

    • @sheilag2231
      @sheilag2231 3 года назад +21

      No they are still looking for paper. I don’t know about the speed to train. Every job I heard wants you to “hit the ground running”

    • @LarsonChristopher
      @LarsonChristopher 3 года назад +20

      An employee without crippling debt is generally a happier employee.

    • @markwalter4881
      @markwalter4881 3 года назад +12

      The HR Dept is the tipping point. When HR sees on online Univ/ computer boot-camp as the same weight as a brick & mortar school's diploma the terrain will change. People chose the brick & mortar school b/c they believe HR values that diploma over and online diploma.

    • @sheilag2231
      @sheilag2231 3 года назад +1

      @@markwalter4881 well they do... cue the jokes about University of Phoenix. Cue jokes about ITT. You need a bachelors to be a secretary yet this guy is saying universities are scared. Ha.

    • @aygwm
      @aygwm 3 года назад

      @@markwalter4881 we’re already there

  • @neogeo79
    @neogeo79 4 года назад +1878

    Formal education will get you the job, self education will earn you a fortune.

    • @perfectsplit5515
      @perfectsplit5515 4 года назад +76

      Self education and success habits are what will carry one through life.

    • @deuxpomme9777
      @deuxpomme9777 4 года назад +5

      You didn't even quote that
      Nor cite who said it

    • @CunoWiederhold
      @CunoWiederhold 4 года назад +1

      Amen!

    • @jeanalexandre1105
      @jeanalexandre1105 4 года назад +2

      That's Earl Nightingale quote I believe

    • @paulrichards2365
      @paulrichards2365 4 года назад +15

      I got out of Electrical Engineering and into IT. I got the MCSE through my own efforts and that led to some great jobs.

  • @smoresrock
    @smoresrock 4 года назад +352

    We've come full circle, folks. Back to apprenticeship we go...

    • @miltonrazon3974
      @miltonrazon3974 4 года назад +6

      Whoah, I always believed that the time is just a circle.
      So we are now returning back in timr

    • @DickinsonLivingInDickinsonNort
      @DickinsonLivingInDickinsonNort 4 года назад +23

      It's a little worse than that, it's self teaching, no one wants to take the time to show or teach you anything.

    • @DJRenee
      @DJRenee 4 года назад

      Yep

    • @mohammadwasilliterate8037
      @mohammadwasilliterate8037 4 года назад +8

      In Australia tradesmen earn more than lawyers, because they are more valuable.

    • @johnberry2877
      @johnberry2877 4 года назад +3

      Apprenticeship is what I strived for, for several years. However, while applying and testing for apprenticeships at the big three in Michigan, each time I was told, either you cannot be given an application because the jobs are for women and minority's or, because you are white you must score at least 99 or 100% to even be considered. This after I was tested at 97% on skilled trades testing after being a machinist for several years. The system of apprenticeships is severely broken and I have long abandoned any hope of pursuing this!

  • @johnrazvaliaeff
    @johnrazvaliaeff 3 года назад +188

    RUclips is school these days. I've learned a lot watching different videos.

    • @isettech
      @isettech 3 года назад

      Very important is to put what you lean to use. For example, have you bought a Cisco network switch to program one? Have you bought any DC Servo amplifiers to program the PID loop? Do you know the difference in incremental encoders line vs transitions, vs analog out and interpolation? Quiz, DC servo motor, with an incremental encoder of 500 lines per rotation, with analog out, connected to a 20X interpolation decoder. What is the resolution of the motor position per transition? Can you tune the PID loop for this motor, encoder, and the mass on the motor? Have you leaned how to change a BGA part? Do you own an oscilloscope? Do you own a function generator? Have you used them together to find the impedance of a microphone cable? Have you designed a PCB? Have you debugged your board when it didn't work as planned? Can you properly implement an RS-485 line to a data recorder? Do you know what DATAQ makes? Do you own one?
      Do you know the difference between a voltage amplifier and transconductance amplifier used in servos?
      In DC motors, do you know the relation between Speed, Power, Torque, to Voltage, Current, and power? Do you know what a coreless motor is? Can you program a VFD as a closed loop servo?
      You do not need a degree to learn all of the above. Showing your potential employer how you implement those skills is important. Last interview I was quizzed about DMM use. let them know I had a DSO, microwave tracking counter, and 3 DMMs, I was hired. Get some test equipment and know how to use it. Buy equipment and learn how to set it up. User manuals are fantastic.
      Creativity is important. Needed to test some magnets used with Hall sensors. Instead of buying an expensive magnetic field instrument, simply bought some very inexpensive analog hall sensors and used a new magnet for reference, and then graphed the relative strength of the failing sensors magnets. Ability to problem solve is important. Ended up building a coil to recharge magnets back to specification to match a new magnet used for reference. The hands on in college is probably not a class you would find listed.
      Can you use Audacity to help find the instability in your robotic servo for pick and place to troubleshoot the LPF?

    • @isettech
      @isettech 3 года назад +2

      @Joshua Craft II watch, practice what I learned, and compare to physics and math I self study. Psudo Science stands out when it breaks the physics of reality.

    • @arcguardian
      @arcguardian 3 года назад

      @Peter Nguyen it all depends. Can't speak for all viewers, but if that's the case many ppl are learning indeed. I'm sure u know what a tutorial is, it turns out YT has tons of those videos, you'd have to assume most observers of tutorials on YT never apply what they learn from the video(s). I wouldn't bet on that assumption.

    • @arcguardian
      @arcguardian 3 года назад

      @@isettech why do you ask? Does lacking that knowledge actually cut against their original statment, or are you leaping at the opportunity to say what you've learned which none of us asked you for? Is there greater context I'm missing or are you actually questioning someone as if they claimed to be in your field of work for no good reason?, seems odd.

    • @arcguardian
      @arcguardian 3 года назад

      @Peter Nguyen no doubt about that. Research should go beyond the scope of using just one website. As long as you're not saying ppl can't learn from YT I think we are in agreement. I never said YT was better than college, but claims like "impossible" and "professional level" seem a bit extreme. What is a "professional level of practice"? You don't get that in college either unless you apply what you've learned. If ur arguing YT doesn't train doctors etc. I get that, YT isn't shipping body parts and equipment etc. for students to practice on nor does it have an expert correcting mistakes. It also depends on the field you're learning in, you can easily check for your own mistakes via a check list, especially if the YT provides that check list. I think we are in agreement, I just interpreted the comment as though you can't learn from YT and responded accordingly.

  • @guyathfaiz4479
    @guyathfaiz4479 3 года назад +272

    Depends on what you want. If you want to become a doctor, engineer, lawyer, or other things you have to go to college. Also if you have a full scholarship then it might be worth it.

    • @TheUltrasEnd
      @TheUltrasEnd 3 года назад +9

      Yep, very true.

    • @epicscream1234
      @epicscream1234 3 года назад +9

      My situation exactly

    • @guyathfaiz4479
      @guyathfaiz4479 3 года назад +3

      @@epicscream1234 what are/will you study? I will study electrical engineering next year.

    • @epicscream1234
      @epicscream1234 3 года назад +10

      @@guyathfaiz4479 same lol, I'm a junior on a full ride. It's a tough degree and the field is starting to get saturated. My buddies all work trades and make over 100k a year so if you just want money go to a trade school. Starting salary for an EE is only 68k. I would add that medical is a solid choice as well, its always in search of people.

    • @samuelmcmurray3502
      @samuelmcmurray3502 3 года назад +10

      Exactly you can’t say don’t go to college as a general statement it’s more what you want to do, some software engineering fields require a masters like machine learning you can not be a self taught programmer and get these jobs even if you work at the company and are proven you require theoretical knowledge and mathematics to even approach some of these subjects. Can that person take some code offline and say here this works sure but why does it work.

  • @faizahmed5865
    @faizahmed5865 5 лет назад +1403

    The internet is the biggest educator for us.
    Edit: Wow, 900 likes! Thank you all so much. This means so much to me.

    • @halasimov1362
      @halasimov1362 5 лет назад +19

      Faiz Ahmed
      And now it is shaped and controlled by a few technocratic oligarchs. They can choose what is approved thought or wrong think, alternative media gets put out of search results and replaced by propaganda outlets and books are even banned! Voices are secretly silenced and shadowbaned as they see fit

    • @davyroger3773
      @davyroger3773 5 лет назад +1

      @@halasimov1362 Point to one concrete example of such censorship by these "Oligarchs"

    • @faizahmed5865
      @faizahmed5865 5 лет назад +3

      @@halasimov1362 Actually these big media companies rank on search results because they put in the time and energy to optimize their content to rank by getting a lot of approval from their audiences. More over, it is not like google or any other search engine has a secretive bias towards some of the news distributors, it's all fair and good.

    • @faizahmed5865
      @faizahmed5865 5 лет назад +5

      Wow, it's the first time i'm getting over a hundred likes. Thank you everyone!

    • @arabdidin7480
      @arabdidin7480 5 лет назад +2

      propaganda outlets like VOX and HUFFPOST

  • @victorwashington7306
    @victorwashington7306 5 лет назад +408

    College Degrees were over hyped and over sold long ago
    Ask graduates who are underemployed and thousands of dollars in debt

    • @Steve_Takes
      @Steve_Takes 5 лет назад +13

      You're generalizing, Some degrees are a waste and some aren't

    • @MailsonWei
      @MailsonWei 5 лет назад

      can anyone explain to me number 3??

    • @donttouchme2095
      @donttouchme2095 5 лет назад +5

      Yep... When you get out you need "experience" I learned the hard way.

    • @jamesallen5591
      @jamesallen5591 5 лет назад +14

      @@Steve_Takes It isn't 'some', it is most. The vast majority of degrees earned every year are worthless.

    • @jamesallen5591
      @jamesallen5591 5 лет назад +13

      @stanleykaffee No, most of them don't stand a better chance. Working for 10 years on 'meager wages' is better than going into $80K in debt. Ten years later they both and up at the same place but the person who didn't go to college has no debt and actually has a positive financial position while the person who went to college still has 20 years worth of debt. But you keep telling yourself that it's worth it. Go ahead; rack up as much student debt as you want. It's your life.

  • @billbixby4431
    @billbixby4431 3 года назад +80

    Considering that 90% of what I’ve learned in school I’ve forgotten or never use I’d say this seems right.

    • @TheScientist_
      @TheScientist_ 3 года назад +2

      Sadly Hulk the schools need to provide a general background for every potential career. Historians don't need science and vica versa. Universities are important - as you see with the pandemic. Cut them away and you get consumer driven education and no innovation.

    • @rickarmbruster8788
      @rickarmbruster8788 3 года назад +1

      @@TheScientist_ schools need to GO ! We dont try to bring a braindead man back to life either..

    • @TheScientist_
      @TheScientist_ 3 года назад +1

      @@rickarmbruster8788 Schools are required to ensure that everyone can read and perform basic tasks. Without schools you would see a clear class system

    • @rickarmbruster8788
      @rickarmbruster8788 3 года назад

      @@TheScientist_ basic tasks like reading are the only thing a school is OK for :) the rest is BS

    • @TheScientist_
      @TheScientist_ 3 года назад +2

      @@rickarmbruster8788 really? So the social skills and learning systems is pointless? The basic principles of the scientific method, oxbow lakes, Pythagoras (which I use nearly everyday)? Principles of history, economics and religion? School may not be brilliant but school does teach self reliance, resilience and politics.

  • @SeamusMartin1
    @SeamusMartin1 3 года назад +163

    Soft skills - it's like Henry Ford said over a century ago: "Hire friendly, train technical!".

    • @rickarmbruster8788
      @rickarmbruster8788 3 года назад +5

      @Peter Nguyen oh boy you are so wrong :D, there are only a few exceptions that wanna have brains the rest wants 100% obedience xD

    • @rickarmbruster8788
      @rickarmbruster8788 3 года назад

      @Peter Nguyen the good old 90s :/

    • @aiahzohar5636
      @aiahzohar5636 3 года назад

      But companies aren't doing this. Because they don't have to. There's an ocean of college grads--including self taught people--competing for every available job.

    • @rickarmbruster8788
      @rickarmbruster8788 3 года назад

      @@aiahzohar5636 im a selftaught c++ developer, i only compete with top notch devs that arent scared off of difficult things. That makes it not easyer but its a more benefitial longtime investment. There are many c++ jobs out there, but the expectations are astronomical. LUV IT :D

  • @TampaAerialMedia
    @TampaAerialMedia 5 лет назад +1024

    Right on, universities are so political now and outdated.

    • @solutreanswerethenatives3954
      @solutreanswerethenatives3954 5 лет назад +38

      Its to indoctrinate the youth to accept communismand while leading students to debt.

    • @solutreanswerethenatives3954
      @solutreanswerethenatives3954 5 лет назад +23

      They indoctrinate with communist beliefs then take away students money.

    • @solutreanswerethenatives3954
      @solutreanswerethenatives3954 5 лет назад +6

      @JRRnotTolkien Tell that to the ones who suffered under Lenin and USSRcommunism bet they dont teach that truth in school on top of that some have nerve to promote openborders.

    • @solutreanswerethenatives3954
      @solutreanswerethenatives3954 5 лет назад +9

      @Vinny Holiday No you lie I know the truth from my family fakejw I dont manipulate like your kind. My family been through it and many were raped,kidsmurdered,lost homes and businesses. I speak truth so does my family who went through it.

    • @solutreanswerethenatives3954
      @solutreanswerethenatives3954 5 лет назад +4

      Thanks now I have more reasons to prevent my kids from becoming future indoctrinated unlike the rest of the brainwashed youth today.

  • @myxsys
    @myxsys 5 лет назад +253

    I have a University degree and it taught me nothing on the work that I do today.

    • @myxsys
      @myxsys 5 лет назад +4

      @asmard tech where is pyramid schemes coming from ???

    • @myxsys
      @myxsys 5 лет назад

      @asmard tech 😕

    • @myxsys
      @myxsys 5 лет назад +5

      @Mike There are thousands of companies that offer in-house training and online courses in art, programming, online marketing e.t.c at a fraction of the cost that universities charge. There is nothing unethical about that. I fail to see his point.

    • @myxsys
      @myxsys 5 лет назад +1

      @Mike What is it and what does it have to with training provided by private companies that are not in academia? Do note that when I mean training, I mean online courses or books that you can buy. Seminars or webinars are not training. Those are marketing ploys to indoctrinate new people into a product or service.

    • @gustavobarajas6155
      @gustavobarajas6155 5 лет назад

      @@myxsys Is your degree in STEM?

  • @stranger9216
    @stranger9216 3 года назад +38

    "Education is what is left after one has forgotten all that they learn in school"
    Albert Einstein

  • @leonardo899
    @leonardo899 3 года назад +52

    Everything that I learned that is worth knowing, I learned from the Internet. I got a degree and a masters, but only because jobs want me to have it. I didn't learn any useful skill at college.

    • @inspirasiusaha2478
      @inspirasiusaha2478 3 года назад +2

      I couldnt agree more.

    • @mikemack7933
      @mikemack7933 3 года назад +2

      Man I learn lots of skills from the internet and every time I go to class they are so outdated and boring except maths. I am only going to university because in my country every jobs needs a degree. It's depressing me.

    • @reikocool1
      @reikocool1 3 года назад +2

      At the college I attended, a number of teachers used online sources as parts of their lesson plans

    • @mohamedn87
      @mohamedn87 3 года назад

      @@mikemack7933 . . .online sources? and how?

  • @akhi85
    @akhi85 5 лет назад +437

    Hence we shouldn't confuse education with schooling. University = schooling ( outdated) + debt. Education = awareness + fortune

    • @SelfDevelopmentQuest
      @SelfDevelopmentQuest 5 лет назад +16

      Absolutely. And the best way to learn is through self development books, business books, management and leadership books, etc.

    • @akhi85
      @akhi85 5 лет назад +11

      @@SelfDevelopmentQuest 100 %. Readers are leaders.

    • @leifc.6045
      @leifc.6045 5 лет назад +4

      I've been in tech internships back in high school and racked up alot of certifications (which cost me $0) but when i went to college, i learned jacked poop. Prefer learning online on the internet for certifications or courses... wayyy more helpful to be honest.Overheard that universities at least cost 8k per semester. May not go there. Online courses, trades, business (etfs,stocks,mutual funds, dividends, etc.)or self taught is the way to go. Everyone with college degrees will be brought upon debt unless you know finances / business then you good.

    • @ghosttv1098
      @ghosttv1098 5 лет назад +1

      💯

    • @akhi85
      @akhi85 5 лет назад

      @@leifc.6045 that's the way to go chief. Keep it up.

  • @json5467
    @json5467 5 лет назад +211

    The barrier to information is rapidly dissolving. I am making money (not that much yet) doing freelance motion graphics animation, and I am purely self-taught. The crux of my knowledge came from those 10 dollar Udemy videos and consistent, deliberate practice. This, however doesn't mean it will be smooth sailing for everyone. We live in a hyper-distracted time where you are bombarded with thousands of ads and newsfeed vying for your attention. You must have the self discipline to sit down and focus for long periods of time on whatever it is you are doing without going on an uncontrollable youtube binge spree. That's pretty much it. The power to focus and not get distracted by mundane information is the most powerful weapon you can have today.

    • @BlueSkyedCountry
      @BlueSkyedCountry 4 года назад

      Json is udemy an online education website

    • @RubbinRobbin
      @RubbinRobbin 4 года назад +1

      If you are given an opportunity where you can make money and you have to learn a skill to do so, not everyone will try to learn that skill, but those that do and do it fast tend to be successful.

    • @gkk2001
      @gkk2001 4 года назад

      Json ...so well said. My hat is off to you. You will be highly successful with this approach. I have no doubt.

    • @chadwickdavis8316
      @chadwickdavis8316 4 года назад

      Great summary j.. well spoken

    • @bvolt70
      @bvolt70 4 года назад

      The information is out there. You just need to know what you need to know... If I had kids, I'd never send them to college.

  • @xlade
    @xlade 3 года назад +19

    I don't know about all the curriculum in universities, but in my University, the first thing we are taught is the way to think. Memory was never tested

  • @Mikeonmicrocaps
    @Mikeonmicrocaps 3 года назад +5

    I recently retired a HS Counselor. I cringe when colleges charge over $50-$70k a year. I made it a point to tell my students about Community 2 year Colleges which did the same for 1/10th the price.

  • @DarkNinja-24
    @DarkNinja-24 4 года назад +286

    Meanwhile, there are still people who pay 6 digits for a degree in Women's Studies

    • @johnames6430
      @johnames6430 4 года назад +33

      that and race studies/africana studies are the worst, they needed to invent degrees that these dumber people could make it through. Right now most of these universities act as a indoctrination area for progressive ideas.

    • @juleflash54
      @juleflash54 3 года назад +7

      Brilliant! I spend that money on Tinder and learn a million times more on that topic 😂

    • @kevinreily2529
      @kevinreily2529 3 года назад +29

      Women's Studies teach college women to hate men and blame men for their bad life choices instead of making them accountable. Who is going to marry a woman who took women's studies? Only a fool.

    • @bepositivestaynegative
      @bepositivestaynegative 3 года назад +3

      @@kevinreily2529 no woman needs be married to be a woman. Skip that outdated idea, she can study whatever she wants.

    • @bepositivestaynegative
      @bepositivestaynegative 3 года назад +1

      @@johnames6430 well, wnd what is your argument in that judgement?

  • @NASIRUB1
    @NASIRUB1 5 лет назад +116

    I said the same thing to friends and family, you are paying for an outdated education and by the time you get out of school, your are trying to pay off years of debt for a useless piece of paper/degree that has already depreciated in value. People called me nuts, but I was right.
    I self taught myself how to fix computers and how to market my skills. Then I started a business and started making money for myself. I went to college for my Associate's and Bachelor's and the stuff I learned wasn't from school, it was from the internet (aka my Professor).
    I can remember myself correcting technology Professors at college about the work they were teaching us because it was outdated. Their was always, "this is what is in the book" or some would tell me I was wrong and they never heard about what I was telling them so it can't be true.

    • @ministeriounamanoeneldesie1615
      @ministeriounamanoeneldesie1615 5 лет назад +4

      When I was in College, i had similar situations like you and still have out of it with people that didn't understand or don't want to understand and some call you crazy, because you have a broader view of things and think differently and out of the box.

    • @gkk2001
      @gkk2001 4 года назад +5

      NASIRUB1 ...your comments are sad to hear but quite believable. It must be a very tough job being a professor today trying to keep up to date with all the information and new knowledge. A good professor should suck it up and admit they are not up to date and learn something. I would have much respect for that response from a professor I just corrected.

    • @alltheworldsastage4785
      @alltheworldsastage4785 4 года назад +2

      Great job, I'll be doing the same, I'll be pursuing A+ though.

    • @alltheworldsastage4785
      @alltheworldsastage4785 4 года назад +2

      @@svaj1000 Yes, lots of jobs want degrees, but there are lots of jobs that don't, and there are ways of making a name for yourself without wasting 4 years of your life, and hundreds of thousands of dollars, only to be in student loan debt years after you're done, it's literally a black hole, literally, if you can get a degree program, that offers you your degree in half the time, and is much cheaper, take it, if not, then leave it where you found it, it's not worth it, it's like I told you on the other post, do A+, I provided a link that you need to check out, after you recieve your A+, you will be at a much better position in life, that certificate is a highly advanced certificate, that will land you a job faster, go for that instead, and while you're working, you can do an affordable degree and in less time.

  • @AO-qy8fp
    @AO-qy8fp 3 года назад +58

    I feel bad for any person going to college and not aiming for Doctor, lawyer, or civil engineer. I doubt the necessity of college for certain fields.

    • @sandponics
      @sandponics 3 года назад +3

      What makes you think that doctors, lawyers, and civil engineers will be safe from the impact of AI?

    • @AO-qy8fp
      @AO-qy8fp 3 года назад +5

      @@sandponics They wont be immune to the impact of A.I. I'm sure certain specific processes can be automated. But each individual field in its entirety is by far to complex to be automated as a whole. There will have to be a human reviewing the work at some point.

    • @dirremoire
      @dirremoire 3 года назад

      @@AO-qy8fp more likely it will be the AI reviewing the work of the human.

    • @sandrajones8245
      @sandrajones8245 3 года назад +1

      Even the fields you mentioned are problematic.
      Ok, say you're the CEO of a company or head of a hospital, you personally, would you rather train an 18 year old, have them shadow someone or you, who is a veteran in the field for 3 years and slowly let them handle their own projects/clients and pay them £200 pw.
      Or
      Hire a fresh uni graduate that still requires training, because all the theory they learned is dated way back to 1950s or whenever the book published, but you have to pay them £1000+pw?
      I would choose the former.

    • @user-lu6yg3vk9z
      @user-lu6yg3vk9z 2 года назад

      Even those Doctors and Lawyers will be replaced with machines. Engineering jobs are being outsourced.

  • @aggierowe9574
    @aggierowe9574 3 года назад +8

    I’ve noticed a number of organizations now mentioning thinking skills as more important than a college degree on employment applications. I also love that some applications ask you to write your thoughts on a problem. It’s a better indicator of what you know (ie writing skills, problem solving etc.)

  • @stevrgrs
    @stevrgrs 5 лет назад +203

    I've been saying this for about ten years now. It was obvious that the Internet would kill University

    • @omegamalerevelations7543
      @omegamalerevelations7543 5 лет назад +4

      Bro I was just thinking about that. Most children have phones and most answers are only a click away.

    • @all4Dorian
      @all4Dorian 5 лет назад +5

      You are ahead of your time. And I hope you know your pissing ppl off with the truth btw lol😉

    • @iconicend5639
      @iconicend5639 5 лет назад +3

      Man when i tell people this they get in denial or completely dismiss what i say

    • @PrincipalDBA
      @PrincipalDBA 5 лет назад +4

      @@omegamalerevelations7543 The answers have to be provided by someone. Looking up answers can be left to automationn like Siri. Answering a question takes research and cannot be automated. Those doing work do not need to be educated, they need to be obedient. Those who have to answer questions need to be educated.
      On another matter. While Google does do research, can they match the University system? Harvard, Yale, Boston University and so many more conduct research and are given billions each year. In addition what Google calls research I call customization. The University system produces the foundational research Google builds on. Google itself came out of University research.
      A university is not a karate sensi. It's a place to study not to be trained to be a worker.

    • @ra1507
      @ra1507 5 лет назад +1

      BOUT FUCKING TIME!
      College is just a place of either brainwashed people who don’t know better or extremely passionate people who wants the genuinely learn their craft and do it as a profession (eg. Doctors, Dentist, psychologist, nutritionist, etc etc.)

  • @emmanuelr710
    @emmanuelr710 5 лет назад +365

    I'd take RUclips access over a college if I'd have to choose.

    • @meryamle6270
      @meryamle6270 4 года назад +4

      Same here 😂

    • @chuckchan4127
      @chuckchan4127 4 года назад +13

      Bitchute too. RUclips is censor Happy

    • @infamouscrusader3363
      @infamouscrusader3363 4 года назад +5

      Agreed. If you can learn it for free, then why spend the money?

    • @lyrachrome6222
      @lyrachrome6222 3 года назад

      There is many wrong information on the internet, including RUclips. It is pleasant, but not always accurate. I spent 2years to find good answers from the internet. A specialist would have given them to me in about an hour...

    • @mjolninja9358
      @mjolninja9358 3 года назад +1

      Fr homie, learned more shit on the internet than in school. Its not like I really relied on school.

  • @mattyb4202
    @mattyb4202 3 года назад +61

    Love how Siri missed two digits from his number and he’s like “yOu SeE wHaT i MeAn”

    • @pdsnpsnldlqnop3330
      @pdsnpsnldlqnop3330 3 года назад +4

      Alexa? Is that you?

    • @open_ckt
      @open_ckt 3 года назад +5

      Yeah, I noticed the same. Was searching for a comment that will mention that and found this.

    • @peanuthead7359
      @peanuthead7359 3 года назад

      Lmfao

    • @Cbaroglio
      @Cbaroglio 3 года назад

      🤣🤣🤣 Exactly!

    • @mace3632
      @mace3632 3 года назад +1

      Yeah - seemed like a good time for a reshoot

  • @hotrotts6467
    @hotrotts6467 3 года назад +69

    When I was 5 years old, I couldn't wait to go to school. I got the new clothes, Lunch box, shows, - the works - I thought this was going to be great. I got on the bus and off I went. After 4 hours I came home from my first day of half day kindergarten. My Dad asked me how was my first day? I threw my lunch box across the living room and said:"I'm not going back". I was the first person iI knew who hated school. I hated it so bad, I graduated early just to get out. I asked my guidance counsel why General Motors or Paramount Pictures didn't have a college? She said because their business is business, not education. I'm happy that one day these Freakin Hippy Liberal College Campuses will one day go the way of the dinosaur.

    • @AC-ri2ph
      @AC-ri2ph 3 года назад +5

      that’s why i’m not getting a masters like all my friends. no need to get one when i don’t plan to stay in the same 9-5 for years. this is the best and maybe the only timeframe to get rich.

    • @rickarmbruster8788
      @rickarmbruster8788 3 года назад +1

      @@AC-ri2ph when you want to do something for years do you really expect your mild master will give u anything compared to the reallife experience? Except its Rusty mindset xD

    • @amiller5885
      @amiller5885 2 года назад +2

      I couldn't agree more. I can't wait until these Universities and their hippie professors are gone. School was a huge stress for our family because we don't think and learn the way their tiny little boxed world thinks we should. Good bye Universities 👋don't let the door hit you on the way out. 👍

    • @DoronBond
      @DoronBond 2 года назад +1

      Why don’t General Motors or Paramount have colleges? Now that’s a very good question! I’ll raise you one….it’s 2022 and I’m asking why isn’t LinkedIn Learning an accredited college?

  • @thetaylorholt
    @thetaylorholt 4 года назад +24

    I learned a lot in school. Especially about critical thinking. I’m blessed. I’m thankful for my education. And I’m thankful to my parents for teaching me to be a life long learner.

  • @TheFirstTriplefife
    @TheFirstTriplefife 4 года назад +193

    I've discussed the fall of college and universities with friends. Honestly trade schools are so much more efficient and they don't leave you with a massive amount of debt. Now that companies are taking the task upon themselves to teach, they essentially have the combined knowledge of a university and the speedy resourcefulness of a trade school.
    Best of both worlds.

    • @marioronci5338
      @marioronci5338 4 года назад +4

      Triple fife trade and tech schools are the best, great skills you take and apply to a job immediately

    • @TheFirstTriplefife
      @TheFirstTriplefife 4 года назад +3

      @@marioronci5338 they really should be the gold standard. Not these 4 or 8 year colleges. The choice is obvious.

    • @brianperry4815
      @brianperry4815 4 года назад +4

      Trade/tech schools used to be the standard 40 years ago when only 20% of the workforce had college degrees. BTW. Back then a 2year degree was common. Not anymore.

    • @TheFirstTriplefife
      @TheFirstTriplefife 4 года назад +3

      @@brianperry4815 we need to get back to that standard.

    • @thermionic1234567
      @thermionic1234567 4 года назад +1

      Triple fife Brilliant analysis!

  • @bloosea123
    @bloosea123 3 года назад +51

    Once these companies start training their own employees out of high school we can say goodbye the mythical 6-figure starting salary in tech.

    • @baileyjohn5010
      @baileyjohn5010 3 года назад +3

      This is a good point. Not to mention "Non-solicitation clauses" in hiring contracts are about to be Cray cray

  • @bige1106
    @bige1106 3 года назад +66

    This can be summarized in one word: apprenticeship

    • @moc7323
      @moc7323 3 года назад +1

      Spot on ..
      why retrain your apprentice...

    • @aiahzohar5636
      @aiahzohar5636 3 года назад +1

      Agreed. But where??

    • @spellcasterneo
      @spellcasterneo 3 года назад

      Exactly. When I was in school I thought? Wait I need to learn what I need to learn to be successful at this field? These universities are not teaching me anything! I work in IT (Helpdesk / Desktop Support) None of my "Computer Science" courses taught the following:
      Logical troubleshooting
      Ticket creation and closing
      Ticket documentation
      Customer Service
      Dealing with difficult customers
      Dealing with difficult team members
      Time management and project prioritization

    • @aiahzohar5636
      @aiahzohar5636 3 года назад +1

      @@spellcasterneo Worse, you have to first pay for the degree (a lot of people go into debt), then you often have to pay for the practical skills (bootcamps...), then you have to pay for the certifications... It's a giant money-making scheme. Most smart kids graduating from high school are well equipped to learn what they need to be successful on the job--and to keep learning. If companies offered on-the-job training, there'd be no supposed "skills gap."

    • @spellcasterneo
      @spellcasterneo 3 года назад +1

      @@aiahzohar5636 Indeed and colleges and universities would be out of business because that's what it is a BUSINESS.

  • @bradmorgan60
    @bradmorgan60 4 года назад +388

    Online courses on Udemy and RUclips have really helped me learn more than I ever have in college.

    • @MelModica
      @MelModica 3 года назад +7

      Me too, I use both for guitar lessons.

    • @sumtingwong8768
      @sumtingwong8768 3 года назад +8

      Yes but there is no proof you learned that, its not accredited and employers arent gonna take chance to give you $60k/year to prove yourself, unless they are gonna pay you $36k and train you, then 5 years later you have the experience in that field to get that $60k job, but your resume will be full of junk jobs

    • @bradmorgan60
      @bradmorgan60 3 года назад

      @@sumtingwong8768 I agree. Been starting my own projects and using RUclips tutorials and documentation for help. Only way to escape tutorial hell

    • @sumtingwong8768
      @sumtingwong8768 3 года назад +2

      @@bradmorgan60 Everyone is trying to get out of the rat race, but you gotta have money coming in to be financing your side-business, which means you need a job. Having a degree would give you more options to choose from and higher pay on average. I will say if you just want to tick the box of having a bachelors, you can enroll into an online accelerated, accredited college like WGU which is $3500 for 6 months and can get your bachelors in 1 year if your fast and have the freetime. Its a fully accredited degree and cheap. Its competency based, they give you all the learning material up front and you can do it as fast as you want, get that degree and check the box. Look at reviews many people are doing esspecially since COVID

    • @bradmorgan60
      @bradmorgan60 3 года назад +1

      @@sumtingwong8768 I just graduated with a Master’s but even with that it is still difficult landing a job

  • @alcomproduction
    @alcomproduction 4 года назад +213

    Real estate- no college - $250,000 a year
    Insurance - no college- $150,00 a year
    Tax preparer- no college - $250,000 a year.
    This is just the beginning. Start your own business today.

    • @rontayan
      @rontayan 4 года назад +9

      Investment advisor - 250K per year no college.

    • @InStyle908
      @InStyle908 4 года назад +7

      Digital Marketer - 100k per year... no college.

    • @jakafe1188
      @jakafe1188 4 года назад +10

      tax preparer(accountant) requires Bachelor's degree

    • @alcomproduction
      @alcomproduction 4 года назад +1

      Taesamu Not in California

    • @rontayan
      @rontayan 4 года назад +4

      @@alcomproduction That job dosent require a degree just a CPA license.

  • @user-sn7yj7me4q
    @user-sn7yj7me4q 3 года назад +19

    So when you go under the knife do you want to hear the anesthesiologist say "Hey Siri, is that 0.1 or 0.001 cc's?"

    • @Maxxmentum
      @Maxxmentum 3 года назад

      ROFL

    • @peanuthead7359
      @peanuthead7359 3 года назад +2

      I think this video is good up to a certain point. There are very specialized professions where a college degree is extremely important and probably the most efficient way of training the skills. Outside of these professions, I think there is a bigger demand for “generalists” in the labor market.

    • @dirremoire
      @dirremoire 3 года назад +1

      Big surprise for you. Surgeons and anesthesiologists learn their jobs during an extensive residency. Basically, they learn on the job. A four year degree in anatomy and physiology would more than enough to preparation to be a surgeon.

    • @petersachs764
      @petersachs764 3 года назад +1

      @@peanuthead7359 Someone else on here said it best. While there still needs to be medical schools and schools of engineering, apprenticeships and tradeschools can take up much of the slack. Look at Germany 🇩🇪.

    • @user-lu6yg3vk9z
      @user-lu6yg3vk9z 3 года назад

      @@dirremoire which is why A.I. will replace surgeons in the future.

  • @remig6349
    @remig6349 3 года назад

    so so well said. Congratulations.great video

  • @manassurya2019
    @manassurya2019 4 года назад +557

    You'll still need a degree for medicine, nursing, civil engineering, biotech research and a few others. So basically core science related fields will need a formal degree for the foreseeable future. But software? No.

    • @dragonofthewest8305
      @dragonofthewest8305 4 года назад +56

      Your correct there will need to be PROOF in them situations but theoretically you could learn it on the Internet without uni

    • @literalh2o327
      @literalh2o327 4 года назад +58

      @Krishna Dwarampudi NO one is going to hire a self proclaimed person who said they learned how to do surgery online you fool. Grow a brain, science isn't taught online, science is how to overcome new and diverse challenges with reason and logic. Aka why your not a scientist.

    • @StayBassd
      @StayBassd 4 года назад +21

      for now...but with augmented and virtual reality on the rise, as well as citizen science, maker spaces, and community labs...the days of big lumbering universities are numbered.

    • @chriscampbell5901
      @chriscampbell5901 4 года назад +8

      The point is that every organization can take control of how their potential employees learn the necessary skills needed for the job. This is NOT tech exclusive, it's just more practical in tech industry FOR NOW!

    • @Ace1000ks19751982
      @Ace1000ks19751982 4 года назад +34

      You need a 4 year degree to be a engineer, medical doctor, scientist(this includes computer science), a brokerage license, teacher, professor, NP, registered nurse, law, etc.
      You learn science and advanced math in computer science, so you can become a better problem solver. Computer Science is not the same thing as a programmer, they can create a operating system, create artificial intelligence, apply advanced mathematics in programming.
      This man is ignorant.

  • @someonewhobitthedust9124
    @someonewhobitthedust9124 4 года назад +332

    I'm an American that is in my early 20's. When it was time for me to go to college I said fuck that. Mainly becuase I was only 18 and definitely did NOT know what i wanted to do for my career but knew I did not want to go 40K in debt. Instead I went to Mexico to learn Spanish and then went to Asia for a 3 month journey. It was a pretty good investment considering the experiences I had and the things I saw but I was able to do it cheap by teaching English and offering work abroad in exchange for boarding. Now I have a great job (2 years later) as a bilingual tech support at a really cool software company making better money than a lot of friends of mine that have been to college that are stuck working in a grocery store. I have never been to a day of college in my life. Don't let everyone else make decisions for you in your life.

    • @misspandesal
      @misspandesal 3 года назад +3

      WORD!

    • @holdensagan
      @holdensagan 3 года назад +9

      I'm impressed. Alot smarter than I was at your age. Did you live in Mexico City? Would you say that the only way to learn a language, quickly as well as thoroughly, is complete immersion?

    • @sumtingwong8768
      @sumtingwong8768 3 года назад +4

      Where you can apply is very limited, end of story.

    • @sarahf.s.2961
      @sarahf.s.2961 3 года назад +6

      Congrats! You escaped a decade or more of crushing debt!

    • @bandanaboii3136
      @bandanaboii3136 3 года назад +3

      I waited until age 21 to start college and I'm glad I did. I found a way to get my bachelor's degree online without any student loans, in a field i am interested in.

  • @robertcartino9677
    @robertcartino9677 3 года назад +12

    Everything that I required to be successful in life, was learned on the job, or taught to me by the company...

  • @JimVincitore
    @JimVincitore 3 года назад

    Great video! Very cool! Thank you!

  • @craigruchman7007
    @craigruchman7007 4 года назад +67

    I have a degree in math and computer science. I can now learn (or re-learn) it all for free on RUclips.

    • @hanssmith8901
      @hanssmith8901 4 года назад +2

      Could you give me all your resource?

    • @infamouscrusader3363
      @infamouscrusader3363 4 года назад

      Nice. So you wouldn't recommend taking Computer Science courses?
      I was thinking of taking Web Development classes as electives for my major just so it can be added to my résumé. Right now, I am learning Programming Languages and plan on creating a website but do you think taking CS or CIS courses would help?

    • @ronjeremy1232
      @ronjeremy1232 4 года назад +1

      Good luck getting a job/internship with RUclips videos on your resume

    • @infamouscrusader3363
      @infamouscrusader3363 4 года назад

      @@ronjeremy1232 He is just pointing out that he can learn again online not get a job especially when a lot of programming jobs involving keeping up to date with learning new languages and softwares.

    • @infamouscrusader3363
      @infamouscrusader3363 4 года назад

      @Sarah Anderson Absolutely. Unfortunately, many believe it's all about the document and not the skills or obtained to receive the degree. Sadly, even employers have that mentality and they wonder why the people they hire are not best for the job.

  • @ccsmooth55
    @ccsmooth55 4 года назад +249

    STEM programs are the only programs worth going to University for anymore.

    • @civcinfo
      @civcinfo 4 года назад +21

      CC Smooth But that’s the point of this vid. Tech is definitely not worth going to uni for.

    • @token8273
      @token8273 4 года назад +15

      @Gabriel Martinez STEM is Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics

    • @token8273
      @token8273 4 года назад +1

      @Gabriel Martinez I just got here....

    • @dab0331
      @dab0331 4 года назад +21

      Even mathematics aren't worth going to university anymore.
      If you're a math-head you can naturally learn and self teach yourself math with RUclips, a mentor, and friends/associates you can teach each other and bounce ideas with.
      Ben Franklin didn't go to no fucking school. He just started a club with fellow nerds and went to the library.
      Only things which can endanger someone's life like doctor, engineer, architect, or chemist is worth going to school for. College is CERTIFICATION not education.

    • @perfectsplit5515
      @perfectsplit5515 4 года назад +32

      Re: "STEM programs are the only programs worth going to University for anymore."
      Mechanical Engineering graduate here. The Mechanical Engineering profession is in some ways like the Hollywood acting profession. In Hollywood, there are washed-up actors who can no longer get any acting roles. Perhaps because of 1 bad project. The same is true for the Mechanical Engineering profession. There are washed-up mechanical engineers who can no longer work in the field because of a bad work record. I should know, I am one of them. Every company that wants a mechanical engineer always wants one with recent experience, and heavy experience in what their company does. 5-10 years.
      Don't think that a degree is valuable just because it is a STEM degree. A STEM degree can be every bit as worthless as one in Philosophy.

  • @yamazaheer6966
    @yamazaheer6966 3 года назад

    Thank you so much for being this up

  • @e.carroll6164
    @e.carroll6164 3 года назад +5

    Nice one, Patrick. This was a seriously great video - every single point was excellent. You were about two years ahead of the game with this video. Watching in Feb 2021. Always nice to see a predictive video, preceding the Mar '20 shutdown.

  • @OCnStiggs
    @OCnStiggs 5 лет назад +30

    College costs skyrocketed right after the government got into the student loan business. The Liberal professors jacked up their salaries and benefits and the colleges started raising room and board. The kids were ignorant of loan costs and the impact of lifetime payback schedules. Add to this the train wreck in useless degrees like "Transgender African Studies" and you have a disaster that was almost engineered. I remember when I was in college, the Deans had all been employed in senior positions in their fields. Today, I bet 95% of the professors have never worked outside of academia. The whole system has rendered college useless.
    Sad news for kids graduating next year with huge debt. The "edjumication" system hosed them bigtime.

    • @larrywoodruff7530
      @larrywoodruff7530 4 года назад

      Key word here," ignorant "

    • @kayaeki
      @kayaeki 3 года назад

      yeah, degree apart from engg, med and law + important ones. Everything else WHY DO YOU EVEN NEED A DEGREE!!?!?!?

  • @prajwalgraphy8430
    @prajwalgraphy8430 5 лет назад +319

    Finally the time of forcing student to join school and colleges are changing

    • @radcow
      @radcow 5 лет назад +7

      @@TheAstroflight right but certain jobs just require a degree and any degree at that

    • @thewhizkid3937
      @thewhizkid3937 5 лет назад +1

      Work a regular job.

    • @alejandrosantacruz5379
      @alejandrosantacruz5379 5 лет назад +1

      keecefly agree, but the fundamentals and theory can mostly be learnt. Any IT pro worth their weight is able to gauge their blind spots and study accordingly... I half agree with ya 😅

    • @Trey_W
      @Trey_W 5 лет назад

      Information at your fingertips. That’s what the internet is for, not social media BS.

    • @alejandrosantacruz5379
      @alejandrosantacruz5379 5 лет назад

      @keecefly tuition skyrocketed as the government subsidized and guaranteed loans... If it was left to the markets, they would be more affordable plus the lender and borrower would have skin in the game which leads to better outcomes all around. IE no 100k loans for lesbians dance theory and philosophy majors

  • @babydarling2272
    @babydarling2272 3 года назад

    Great points - thanks again

  • @RealEstateEntrepreneur
    @RealEstateEntrepreneur Год назад

    I have seen this video many of times. I will include this video and the concepts into my company. Great stuff.

  • @zengseng1234
    @zengseng1234 5 лет назад +132

    I’m glad I’m finally done with college so I can study stuff that I actually want to learn!! I should’ve dropped out a long time ago

    • @PrincipalDBA
      @PrincipalDBA 5 лет назад +6

      The technology does move quickly. Glad you have some free time. You must have noticed how a crowd of applicants are weaned. College degree is one criteria to limit applicants. Aren't you lucky.b

  • @jordanearl5449
    @jordanearl5449 5 лет назад +35

    technical schools and trades are the best type of post secondary. you learn with on the job training.

    • @jasoncentore1830
      @jasoncentore1830 5 лет назад

      That's the only way to go, a few thousand dollars and 6mos ur making tons. My buddy got sick of bussing tables, he took an electrical trade, he has now been working on those extremely tall towers for years, I can only imagine what he makes. He doesn't worry about making the car payment

    • @josephscott1870
      @josephscott1870 5 лет назад

      True, here in the UK (apprenticeships) are taken off you learn on the jon get qualified and get paid for it, no massive debt and real world experience

  • @kimnenninger7226
    @kimnenninger7226 3 года назад

    Great video. Absolutely makes sense.

  • @leejenkins7184
    @leejenkins7184 3 года назад

    Great points

  • @darklight5271
    @darklight5271 4 года назад +94

    "What did you learn from the last 6-8 years in college?"
    That I waste a lot of time and money.

    • @ruthwianto4592
      @ruthwianto4592 4 года назад

      Dark Light lol 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

    • @infamouscrusader3363
      @infamouscrusader3363 4 года назад +2

      Amen brother. I came to the same conclusion as well as knowing how stupid human beings can become.

    • @wusenrob
      @wusenrob 3 года назад +2

      Well you're not supposed to spend so much time in a university..

  • @zebsmith5014
    @zebsmith5014 4 года назад +16

    Just graduated college, and now I’m doing a 6month boot camp. This couldn’t be more accurate

    • @joeschmoe1193
      @joeschmoe1193 4 года назад

      Sounds more like a reboot camp on your life. You go to college and then you get das boot.

  • @flowwiththeuniverse31
    @flowwiththeuniverse31 3 года назад +15

    "Education is what remains after one has forgotten what one has learned in school " (Einstein). Einstein would have loved this guy!

  • @bebodhi
    @bebodhi 3 года назад

    Thanks for this and the other.
    peace

  • @EstebanQuijada
    @EstebanQuijada 5 лет назад +185

    Asks siri what 27,227/13 is and gets an answer of 227/13. I'll stick to asking uncle John 😂

    • @cryora
      @cryora 5 лет назад +8

      I have access to the python console with a numpy package, so I can do a lot more complicated calculations in similar time. I also have access to Matlab, so I can do curve fitting and data visualization in a short amount of time.

    • @mjordan812
      @mjordan812 5 лет назад +42

      Not only did Siri screw it up, but Patrick didn't notice. Uncle John, it is.

    • @AppleManiagaming
      @AppleManiagaming 5 лет назад +3

      Haha you gotta speak clearly unfortunately.

    • @denimili7659
      @denimili7659 5 лет назад +1

      He didn't speak clearly. Not even I understood it.

    • @AppleManiagaming
      @AppleManiagaming 5 лет назад +2

      @@denimili7659 "Tenty Theven Fowzand"

  • @JessG_20
    @JessG_20 4 года назад +92

    I'm so sick of everyone still asking me "are you in school?" But aren't you going to go to college?" "Do you have a degree?"
    I get it, I get it 🙄 They're not futurists. They can't keep up with the times.

    • @DIVISIONINCISION
      @DIVISIONINCISION 4 года назад +4

      Sorry, but those of us who have higher education always think in those terms. When you have a Master's degree, you look at society as educated vs. uneducated. The bias is real, but it's not unfounded. I have much more in common with people who have formal education. No degree = no pedigree.

    • @shaunrosenberg4568
      @shaunrosenberg4568 4 года назад +5

      But then what do you do? If you can get to a middle class or higher position without a college degree that's great. If you're flipping burgers while talking about how smart you are, you may want to reconsider things.

    • @infinity2012rmx
      @infinity2012rmx 3 года назад +4

      This video is about top performers. Like extremely gifted ppl. Don't expect a job at Apple saying "uuhm college is outdated guys"
      It's not a good thing for you that college is losing its value. It means college is a side project you better have and that shouldn't be a big deal for you to handle. ONTOP OF IT you should also be full time nerd on your topic of interest and self-educate with RUclips, books, etc...

    • @JessG_20
      @JessG_20 3 года назад +3

      @@infinity2012rmx 🤔 So in other words you seem to agree that everything is moving faster now. People are expected to really know their field inside & out and to learn quickly + adapt fast, hence why the 4+ years people spend at college universities is becoming a pointless waste of time. Society will eventually do away with that style of learning. Probably sooner rather than later. The point you made about needing all of this PLUS a college degree as a "side project" doesn't make sense.
      "Here kid, learn everything you need to know to get qualified for the job via online learning & similar resources but also...spend four or more years of additional wasted time learning what you already know or what you could learn in half the time and at almost no cost".
      Right.
      No. People (yes even highly educated people) realize it's becoming redundant and you haven't quite caught up to this realization is all.

    • @JessG_20
      @JessG_20 3 года назад +3

      @@DIVISIONINCISION what exactly was the point of your comment because it mostly came across as snooty and that's about it. Are you trying to make the point that nobody would give me the time of day as far as job opportunities go because of this black and white way that formally educated people view society? Also, why not ask what it is I do or what it is I want before assuming it's wrong for me to think college isn't necessary for all of us.
      I'm sure you're aware that people want different things/have different goals, and have varying levels of potential... or are you that out of touch?

  • @hiro3759
    @hiro3759 3 года назад +15

    I hope no one ends up with a doctor that only learned from youtube... college is no where near dead.

    • @raisasiddique7018
      @raisasiddique7018 3 года назад +5

      Finally someone who has common sense

    • @hiro3759
      @hiro3759 3 года назад +3

      @Thiago Oliveira it's not my fault people pick useless degrees and they are in debt...no one told you to figure your life out in college that's why you understand your goals first then aim towards a degree that will benefit you.

    • @tintedeyez
      @tintedeyez 3 года назад +2

      There are regulations for doctors so a youtube doc isn't realistic...and if you heard the companies he is referring to, they are all tech companies.....so obviously engineering and medical degrees are much needed but the vast majority are not....college is 2 yours of bullshit...i mean prereqs ......and 2 years of youtube videos and TED talks ....i mean core courses.....its all nonsense.....and this is coming from a person with a Master's.....i graduated with $230k in debt....and almost 20 years later....i can honestly say...that it was not worth it!!!! save your money

    • @hiro3759
      @hiro3759 3 года назад +2

      @@tintedeyez I get what your saying but going to college is a choice and the reason that these youtubers and tech giants wants to cancel college is to pay their workers less...yes I hear you that you came out with 230k of debt but why didn't you choose a cheaper school to attend to...why you didn't work to pay for your classes so you won't go into debt or waited until you were independent so they could provide more benefits for you to attend school...I sympathize with you but you put yourself into that situation...I got a computer science degree got into 16k in debt and I only have 4k to pay off plus old joe is canceling 10k of student loan debt...schools should not be cancel at all but students should be educated before they sign that financial aid agreement....and even if you cancel school and you have to earn certificates to apply for a tech job it doesn't mean your getting that job there will be more competition because certificates are easier to get...think of the consequences before you jump on the bandwagon and do research.

    • @raisasiddique7018
      @raisasiddique7018 3 года назад +2

      @@hiro3759 exactly, cuz they wanna pay less!

  • @leeanucha
    @leeanucha 3 года назад +4

    I still remember went to a tech college in UK in 1993 to learn about computers and the teachers were out of date then, they could barely catch up with what the Pentium could do. I don't even want to begin how it is much worse today and in the near future.

  • @bballboy164
    @bballboy164 4 года назад +141

    So we're just going to act like siri didn't ignore the other 27,000?... 🤔

    • @billmeriwether605
      @billmeriwether605 3 года назад +13

      Just like a Woaman ..... doesn’t listen

    • @emperorza5777
      @emperorza5777 3 года назад +2

      @@billmeriwether605 Right 😂😂

    • @kgriff087
      @kgriff087 3 года назад +5

      Siri is a female afterall...
      But really its because of the way he said the number.

    • @TheRavensdomain
      @TheRavensdomain 3 года назад

      @WorldFlex idk wat your talking about, the reason for the exclusion wasnt subjectivism, it was disorted voice identification, siri jus didnt pick up the rest, i bet your some math teacher so your annoyed at reality lol, salty loser

    • @TheRavensdomain
      @TheRavensdomain 3 года назад

      @WorldFlex insulting you? so your one of egoitistical keyboard warriors, huh, should have known, and for your information, i am pretty decent at maths and even got A's in college, always top of the class, and also i can code in java and C++, since the age of 15, sure i havent created my own app yet , but just so you know im planning on starting a studio company very soon. so keep your mouth shut you insect, your nothing compared to me.

  • @osse1n
    @osse1n 5 лет назад +174

    *COMPETENCE over EDUCATION.*

    • @badboy95ca
      @badboy95ca 5 лет назад +1

      @discorperted nope COE, competence over EVENTHING!

    • @badboy95ca
      @badboy95ca 5 лет назад +2

      @discorperted why would would you let someone u know thru just connections that isnt competent do business with you?

    • @badboy95ca
      @badboy95ca 5 лет назад

      @discorperted corrected!

    • @badboy95ca
      @badboy95ca 5 лет назад

      @discorperted i would suggest you look into the 4 levels of competence, there is a good video on youtube, anyways there is no really no argument here as these are apples and oranges incomparison, and i do argree connections are important but without the proper application of competence knowing someone aint gonna do you nothing if you dont have the means, that why I say COE!

    • @badboy95ca
      @badboy95ca 5 лет назад +1

      @discorperted my priority is based on success and money, and in the long run competence always take priority over everything, if u look at the companies of from the 80 90s and 2000s, most of them went under thru neoptism and hiring friends, but after a while the realized the need a merit based system to survive, and the companies of today is all merit based look at companies google amazon facebook all merit based, once u shown ur competence ur in the club making the connections

  • @roymustang2013
    @roymustang2013 3 года назад

    Another video with a great break down. Thank you so much for these.

  • @Mary-io1mb
    @Mary-io1mb Год назад

    Great content👍🏿💯‼️

  • @henrytang2203
    @henrytang2203 5 лет назад +23

    To be fair, I still see value in a degree like mathematics. The quantitative skills are useful in finance, teaching, and the tech sector (although it may need to be augmented with other skills).
    But a large part of many degrees is paraphrasing and citing papers by Smith, J. et al. (2017). There is nearly no value in this outside of research/academia.

    • @courtneydurham8429
      @courtneydurham8429 4 года назад +1

      I feel that if it's not directly related to the skill I'm trying to learn, I shouldn't have to earn the credit. Why do I need to take a history class to become a car mechanic? Maybe a science class about rust and corrosion and electricity as it relates to car engines. But a Humanities course? Why?

  • @oldpicker49
    @oldpicker49 3 года назад +171

    going to college is like buying a expensive car and never driving it

    • @billycasper3351
      @billycasper3351 3 года назад +7

      borrowing

    • @christophekapuschenski7723
      @christophekapuschenski7723 3 года назад +1

      Maybe for Art and Humanities degree

    • @valeriew4833
      @valeriew4833 3 года назад +2

      Maybe for some. For me, my degree opened doors.

    • @scrapmason3721
      @scrapmason3721 3 года назад +1

      More like buying an expensive car that has wheels of random shapes but never round and as a bonus, the engine doesn't work anyway

    • @scrapmason3721
      @scrapmason3721 3 года назад +2

      @Peter Nguyen Yes but this is assuming colleges and universities actually do that. Which seems less and less the case in the US. Even if they may be teaching valuable stuff, it seems students just come out of there more concerned with their pronouns than the real world

  • @manavmehta8038
    @manavmehta8038 3 года назад

    Thank you so much

  • @TheCommonSenseProfessor
    @TheCommonSenseProfessor 3 года назад +2

    I am a tenured Associate Professor at a state university. This video is spot on with some of the problems with higher education.

  • @user-mw1cm1kl3s
    @user-mw1cm1kl3s 4 года назад +122

    You pay for degree
    Go to university
    Get told to do your research
    Back on Google anyway
    Topkek

    • @GodofThunder89
      @GodofThunder89 4 года назад +6

      google scholar > university

    • @andrewstones2921
      @andrewstones2921 4 года назад +9

      Except when you need to cite your sources and youtube is not acceptable.

    • @dragonofthewest8305
      @dragonofthewest8305 4 года назад

      True

    • @RustyShacklefardd
      @RustyShacklefardd 4 года назад +3

      Math for engineering teacher: You can’t use a calculator to do this for you it’s cheating
      My cad teacher with 40 years of drafting experience: So anyway if you google gear ratio calculators it makes designing gear much easier

    • @elemerkis6387
      @elemerkis6387 4 года назад

      Try to learn surgery or law on Google this is the real TOPKEK.

  • @speedster1500
    @speedster1500 4 года назад +39

    I spent my 4 years in college getting a lot of now useless info. BUT, I also spent a lot of that time learning Physics and more advanced math. I graduated in 1962, My optional studies ( history, arts, Psych, et.al) are now available as RUclips videos, but my science studies are still valuable. In the subsequent 40 years, I morphed from a physics student into an aerospace systems engineer. After graduating, I had several job offers. One from Brookhaven National Lab(working on a liquid sodium Cooling system, for a nuclear reactor;One from Grumman Aerospace Corp Working on the flight testing of the A-6 Intruder's bombing system, One from Riverhead School System as Head of the Math Dept. I wasn't even trained to teach Math, but I had learned how to use it. I joined /Grumman, and had the most rewarding and fun job I could ever have imagined.I'm now retired, and still Am active in the sciences. I'm now doing climate research. More fun, but challenging and useful work. Colleges still are behind what's needed. Too much B.S. and political correctness to deal with. We have dumbed down Nearly All colleges/universities to feel good enterprises and The degrees only useful for job contacts. We ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT THE EDUCATIONAL PROCESSES UNTIL WE GET IT RIGHT, AGAIN!

    • @maximuscomfort
      @maximuscomfort 4 года назад +1

      Carl Carter, you didn't fake it to make it and you did well. The slots that pay are occupied by experienced retirees, that will be the doomed scenario.

    • @lefthanded5473
      @lefthanded5473 4 года назад

      I’m too stupid to be like you tho.

  • @vaclavblazek
    @vaclavblazek 3 года назад +25

    "CS degree obsolete in 3 years" tells a lot about you. Especially that you have no idea what Computer Science is. Hint: no, it's not bodging web pages in yet another hip framework.

    • @dirremoire
      @dirremoire 3 года назад +2

      the only thing my computer science degree help me with was getting my first job. Once I started my career I never used what I learned in college. Ever. My company sent me to technical classes and training seminars for the knowledge I needed to do my job. They could have just as well hired any high school graduate who knew how to code reasonably well.

    • @vaclavblazek
      @vaclavblazek 3 года назад +3

      @@dirremoire Depends what you are doing. CS gives you fundamentals you can build upon. If you are talking about programming then it could be done by trained high/secondary schooler.

    • @dirremoire
      @dirremoire 3 года назад +3

      @@vaclavblazek Well, I guess it depends on what are considered the fundamentals. Data structures, algorithm design, i/o control, portability. ALL these are considered fundamentals yet each and everyone can be self-taught or learned in high school. Can you think of a fundamental that can't be acquired by a motivated high school kid who loves coding?

    • @epistemicompute
      @epistemicompute 3 года назад +6

      @@dirremoire I think you’re ignoring the part that survivorship bias plays in your story. You graduated with a CS degree, many others who attempted didn’t. You were able to self teach yourself tools at work, many other people who attempted weren’t able to. Also, where did you actually learn to code? In your data structures and algorithms class, or did you learn through google and self teaching? At least for my degree, I wasn’t being taught commands, just concepts - the ability to self teach myself new languages was the practice I got doing the problem sets. Also, algorithms is fundamentally a problem solving class, I’ve never had to program my own algorithm from scratch, but I do still refer to what I learned from Algo & data structures to know what library to pull up to solve my problem at hand. I definitely don’t think a cs degree will be obsolete. All the people programming siri and alexa that this guy claims will make cs obsolete is being created by CS PhD’s. That requires more than googling how to code.
      Remember 20-80 rule, for every 20% of people make it, 80% of people don’t.
      Why doesn’t everyone just go on your company trip to learn the tools you learned and replaced you? It’s probably because your education gave you skills that others don’t possess.
      College isn’t there to teach content, it teaches you how to learn.... and possibly teach machines.

    • @flagmichael
      @flagmichael 3 года назад +2

      When I worked in IT we had a software architect who was probably the smartest person I ever knew. He could foresee where every project could possibly go and built his framework to match the future. That could not possibly have been something he was taught, it was something his vision showed him. Lesser people ended up working for video game developers - a fate worse than death.

  • @ancientengineer1153
    @ancientengineer1153 Год назад

    Thank you Patrick.

  • @ButchHartmanart
    @ButchHartmanart 4 года назад +232

    Love this video. It’s time more people understood these ideas. Including myself!

    • @CaptainBones222
      @CaptainBones222 4 года назад +7

      How is it that noone noticed your comment?

    • @dathunderman4
      @dathunderman4 3 года назад +5

      My childhood was a little better because of you. Thanks for your creative work

    • @MultiKwolf
      @MultiKwolf 3 года назад +2

      BUTCH HARTMAN !??!?! OMG YES !!! BOTH RUclipsRS I FOLLOW !!

    • @royroy3
      @royroy3 3 года назад

      @@CaptainBones222 I did 👍

    • @jankoleon3785
      @jankoleon3785 3 года назад +1

      I just got a four year degree in gender studies ? DINKLEBURG !!!!!!

  • @youthsportsfilms6252
    @youthsportsfilms6252 5 лет назад +148

    Every IT job I’ve applied for asked if I had a degree.

    • @noname-hs5mo
      @noname-hs5mo 5 лет назад +25

      For now, soon enough that won't be necessary. Sites like Brilliant.org and programs like the Great Courses Plus are very helpful.

    • @derekderekderek2
      @derekderekderek2 5 лет назад +38

      This channel is more directed at entrepreneurs. Think of it this way: did you ask if the founder/CEO had a degree?

    • @eternalgaze
      @eternalgaze 5 лет назад +60

      Jobs ask for degrees just as standard fare but many of them don't care. They are more interested in years experience and certifications (Cisco, Microsoft, AWS, etc) You have to realize that many jobs ask for the moon, but will take New Jersey. This is from someone who has been part of the hiring process in the IT field for my last three jobs.

    • @supercoolmunkee
      @supercoolmunkee 5 лет назад +11

      @@eternalgaze Bruh I could learn new technology in like 5 minute with some business network stuff that I wasn't exposed to yet. Just give me a step by step guide and I'm good to go.

    • @yunggpacino
      @yunggpacino 5 лет назад +9

      They also asked if you have a criminal record guess which one they actually investigate???

  • @yogasounds1
    @yogasounds1 3 года назад +2

    This was an awesome video! A true eye opener! Damn, you’re good bro!

  • @Tioniker01
    @Tioniker01 3 года назад

    Well done! Mind blown!

  • @KimberWaul
    @KimberWaul 5 лет назад +68

    As a teacher, I can say that this is really so. By the time it'll take for the curriculum to be revised, then course module outlines to be adjusted, new texts to be identified to support the course content, teachers to be called to seminars to be briefed on the new development, the industry will have already made shifts. Not to mention the time period for the revised course to be assessed by the school/college's governing and accreditation bodies. These things literally take years!! (At least in my country).
    As a businesswoman though, I set up systems for training and empowering my staff on the specifics of their jobs and in professional and personal development. I also get specialists to train them in areas where my knowledge/understanding is limited, like how to identify industry trends, opportunities and threats, etc. Patrick, great content!

    • @taoist32
      @taoist32 5 лет назад +6

      Kimber Waul What kids need these days are seminars, workshops, and short online courses. That’s all they need to get their head right and their feet wet. A degree used to be the recognized factor to represent hard work, discipline, and gained knowledge. With current work atmosphere and the continuous trends of economics and technology, kids need knowledge and experience quickly. Even those who are not in the computer or technology sector can benefit from this type of education. Psychologists, doctors, and professional services can still gain immense benefit by utilizing these types of educational formats.

    • @KimberWaul
      @KimberWaul 5 лет назад +6

      @@taoist32 Yes, I agree. I tell my students that if you want to specialize in certain areas, like medicine, law, teaching, accounting, engineering, etc., then college is for you. Otherwise, you may do professional courses and try to start internships (especially paid ones), as soon as possible, until you can actually PAY for college (if you desire a degree that badly). I also tell them to completely immerse themselves into the experience, become lifelong learners and also work towards owning business(es) of their own. Some children, parents and school administrators think that I am strange and wrong for saying this. Many of them equate 'education' to 'schooling' and that's where the problem lies.

    • @sami-9233
      @sami-9233 5 лет назад +2

      @@KimberWaul Teachers no longer need a degree nor do accountants. These have been made redundant at least here in Western Europe. Flight attendants also used to need a proper career training for their field, now it's all being taken care of by educators at airlines.

    • @KimberWaul
      @KimberWaul 5 лет назад

      @@sami-9233 In my country and in most, if not all, of the countries that I know, teachers who intend to teach within the mainstream school system need a degree. If one intends to open a school in my country and most of those that I know, s/he would need some kind of degree and/or license to start a school. Also, in my country and in others, one needs to be licensed and certified to become an accountant. That's why I advise my students the way in which I do.

    • @whatevergoesforme5129
      @whatevergoesforme5129 5 лет назад +1

      @@sami-9233 I am a teacher and in my country, teachers need at least a college degree since methods of teaching, educational statistics, lesson planning, and other education courses are needed. We also need to pass a licensure exam for teachers. Then we are encouraged to get our master's and attend several seminars in a year.

  • @tommyjones7275
    @tommyjones7275 5 лет назад +15

    Scary how the companies can limit what you can learn so you are restricted to that company

    • @cryora
      @cryora 5 лет назад +3

      The same is true for how they restrict customers from using other products.

    • @ArturZygmunt
      @ArturZygmunt 5 лет назад

      They can't and they don't.

    • @cryora
      @cryora 5 лет назад

      @@ArturZygmunt Ever heard of platform exclusives? Ever heard of ecosystems?

    • @jasoncentore1830
      @jasoncentore1830 5 лет назад

      I can imagine getting fired by Google will make it tough to work Apple

  • @spencerheath5085
    @spencerheath5085 3 года назад

    Something that will always be needed is understanding the concepts and being able to rearrange them in a useful manner

  • @johnwagenhofferjr1132
    @johnwagenhofferjr1132 3 года назад

    Excellent video.

  • @ConiferF
    @ConiferF 5 лет назад +66

    We from apprenticeship system to the university system. And now it looks like apprenticeship is coming back

    • @jokibud-sm1kr
      @jokibud-sm1kr 4 года назад +1

      ConiferF trades are always going to be needed,

    • @Freedom20241
      @Freedom20241 4 года назад

      Three skills that are always in demand. Plumbers, HVAC and electricians.

  • @mariaurbina9225
    @mariaurbina9225 5 лет назад +117

    I'm so glad I didn't finish college and I'm learning the school of life.

    • @zero5496
      @zero5496 5 лет назад +3

      Maria Urbina sane here man same here

    • @terintiaflavius3349
      @terintiaflavius3349 5 лет назад +3

      @stanleykaffee You obviously did not watch this video.

    • @winstonwatchman
      @winstonwatchman 5 лет назад

      @stanleykaffee
      You sound funny.!

    • @ladeda7033
      @ladeda7033 4 года назад +1

      Better read about the order of life and avoid the school of hard knocks! I was a hard head and did the hard knocks first. Read and study the book of wisdom. It is valid In every nation in every culture because it is truth. It was written by a king unto his son. So you know it has to be the very best advise. It is also written for you! It also speaks on principals for gaining wealth. As well as how to use it an to not abuse it. Tis called the book of proverbs. It is packed with relevant and useful practical and impractical information that if applied will achieve the results! Because it is truth and no lie!

    • @JaniceFernandezIngrid
      @JaniceFernandezIngrid 4 года назад

      Zero exactly.

  • @tonybanning
    @tonybanning 3 года назад

    I can’t wait to see you and these companies make lasting change in the way we educate our young people. PLEASE don’t give up.

  • @Hitman-ds1ei
    @Hitman-ds1ei 3 года назад +1

    I showed this to my daughter over 12 months ago when the company she was working for wanted her to consider doing a business degree to further her position in the company, in the last year she has progressed through the management level beyond the point of the person who raised the issue initially not because she did any degree but because she knew the business and outperformed others inline with the company's core business practices, values and employee and customer feedback

  • @karldilkington8587
    @karldilkington8587 5 лет назад +14

    Going to regular University was the biggest mistake of my life.

  • @jonl7855
    @jonl7855 4 года назад +30

    “Hey Siri what is 27,227 / 13?”
    “227 / 13 is about 17.4615”
    Genius!!!

    • @479films
      @479films 4 года назад +5

      Jon L thank you. Thank you for letting me not be the only person to realize this. He claims that we no longer need to know as much yet just proved that voice recognition fails many times.

    • @peppermintcatsass3141
      @peppermintcatsass3141 4 года назад +3

      ...not just me!

    • @jonl7855
      @jonl7855 4 года назад +1

      Rap Official Videos No problem man! Of course, he does long on-take style videos, so it’s hard to restart in the middle, but if he’d been thinking about the numbers at all, it takes just a basic understanding of numbers to realize that something in the 10,000s divided by 13(about 10) would have to be at least around the thousands range.

    • @salvo5108
      @salvo5108 4 года назад

      Indeed our goal is to become fast thinking machines with no common sense whatsoever lol.

    • @reanimaniact3263
      @reanimaniact3263 4 года назад

      Jon L yeah technology is not perfect yet I think his point was that we no longer need to worry so much on remembering when we have technology but I think it's important to still be educated at least a little otherwise your sound dumb asf and we have to keep in mind we are no where near perfect technology I can't ask that question if my phone freezes or my computer dies my Alex or Google home can't recognize my.voice

  • @Erick-di9gm
    @Erick-di9gm 3 года назад +1

    Very informative!
    What's not being taken into account or considered maybe is that college is learning a way of thinking. It's that way of thinking- whether its problem solving, risk taking and thoughtful processing that puts me way ahead of others in my industry that didn't graduate from college.

    • @1926howiemack
      @1926howiemack 8 месяцев назад

      many of those things are taught in life especially if you are self employed.

  • @seans9168
    @seans9168 3 года назад +3

    I’ve felt this way about college degrees for the last 20 years. Couldn’t have said it better myself.

  • @ma111ma11
    @ma111ma11 5 лет назад +10

    There is a difference between craft and profession. You can learn to drive a civilian aircraft in most climatic conditions within two weeks, But you will not get a civil aviation license until to study math, physics, quality, safety, etc, you need at least two years. This applies to programming, accounting, cooking and construction..etc. There are online academies, by the way

  • @dougtaylor26
    @dougtaylor26 5 лет назад +60

    College degrees have been dead for a long time. The entire IT infrastructure industry doesn’t use college. You can get a 6 figure job without paying a dime.

    • @krane15
      @krane15 5 лет назад +2

      Nope, and despite the message to the contrary, they're not going away anytime soon.

    • @dougtaylor26
      @dougtaylor26 5 лет назад +8

      Krane I did it and now I’m a manager hiring more people w/o degrees. The only reason they exist is because some industries are full of bureaucracy and have outdated policies requiring them.

    • @kevindao1103
      @kevindao1103 5 лет назад +6

      @@krane15 Even though they won't go away, we have more options to get a good career without a degree than 40-50 years ago. You can actually pay a few thousand for a boot camp to study programming. That's one example, could be many more.

    • @krane15
      @krane15 5 лет назад +6

      @@dougtaylor26 There are always exceptions. But your exception is NOT the rule. The vast majority of people still need degrees to advance or even enter many industries. Like it or not that is our system and its not going away anytime soon.

    • @krane15
      @krane15 5 лет назад +1

      @@kevindao1103 Of course there are, and that has always been the case. But there are also jobs and industries that won't even look at your without a degree. It depends on what type of job you're looking for. You want to become a doctor? You need a degree. And no amount of boot camp study can get around that.

  • @kangshito5292
    @kangshito5292 3 года назад

    Totally agree with you, based on my own experience dealing with workers and graduates

  • @youtubekanal4754
    @youtubekanal4754 Год назад +2

    Yep that's the truth, that's what I wanted to hear, That's why I droppoed out from university after 1 year education, Now i have totaly free in gain knowledge. Thanks for this video guys!

  • @Honeycomblife
    @Honeycomblife 4 года назад +149

    Glad I'm a college dropout and got my house at a good rate and my car with zero percent financing 😎👍

    • @blattlicht
      @blattlicht 4 года назад +9

      Noice

    • @carnivalwrestler
      @carnivalwrestler 4 года назад +6

      Yes, Bill Gates and Steve Jobs seem to have done well for themselves after dropping out.

    • @mohammadwasilliterate8037
      @mohammadwasilliterate8037 4 года назад +1

      0% Errrr,,,,,how nobody lends money for free?

    • @GalacticNovaOverlord
      @GalacticNovaOverlord 4 года назад +3

      @@carnivalwrestler Remember, these are pretty intelligent. That is why they could afford to drop out. They aren't run of the mil people.

    • @SkyyPiano
      @SkyyPiano 4 года назад

      0% financing? How?

  • @NilsJakobson
    @NilsJakobson 4 года назад +109

    You dont go to school to memorize facts. You go there to train your brain, prove that you can learn and are able to focus, organize your thoughts and express them coherently and clearly. To prove you can handle a project assignement. But memorizing things is also important because then you can work alot more efficiently. Your thought process is only based on knowledge not what you can find from Siri. Academical degrees are there for a very big reason.

    • @bobbyjeangayheart360
      @bobbyjeangayheart360 3 года назад +3

      You are wonderful!

    • @markbenassi9896
      @markbenassi9896 3 года назад +20

      Unfortunately, the university (generally speaking) has lost sight of this and has focused on the vocational side of education because that is where the money is. There is tremendous value in learning history, philosophy, languages and all the other elements of what used to be considered a liberal education. That sort of education has great value but it also does not demand a massive campus and $50,000 a year tuition, huge endowments and masses of administrators - Plato and Aristotle worked by themselves. Today's academics need to start focusing on the fundamentals that you reference and stop selling their degrees on the basis of how good a job you're going to get. Unfortunately, that would also mean cutting the price.

    • @VeryProPlayerYesSir1122
      @VeryProPlayerYesSir1122 3 года назад +6

      You go there to solve assignments?? Lol. Go and write that shit on your CV.

    • @ericsanjuan4901
      @ericsanjuan4901 3 года назад +7

      @@VeryProPlayerYesSir1122 you just proved her point. You don't have the ability to read simple english and understand. Or your memory is so poor you couldn't repeat what she said correctly 20 seconds later.

    • @MilosMilosavljevic1
      @MilosMilosavljevic1 3 года назад +13

      I disagree. Training your brain, proving that you can learn and are able to focus, organizing your thoughts and expressing them coherently and clearly as well as training your memory should be done much earlier, at ages 10-18. By the age of 18 or 19, it is probably already too late to teach these. Academical degrees as we know them today, were simple constructs of third industrial revolution. And they worked fairly well for nearly two centuries. Today however, they are completely obsolete. Now, obviously, for certain professions you need proof of ability before being allowed to partake in, such an example is medical profession. However, if you carefully think about it, achieving this does not necessarily mandate the existence of an academical degree as an institution, does it? We still use them, as they are an adequate and proven 19th and 20th century model. 21st century already has and certainly will continue to yield new methods of learning, new methods of measuring one's knowledge and abilities. Some of the technologies that come to mind that will disrupt higher education (and may I add much sooner then everybody is thinking) are AR with haptic feedback + AI teachers and teaching assistants.

  • @Mr1Dolfan
    @Mr1Dolfan 3 года назад +2

    I graduated in 1992 with a degree in computer science and upon entering the work force, I realized university was pretty much a lesson in history. I can't imagine what it's like today. A lot of the delay is the curriculum is outdated by the time it gets approved to be a curriculum.

  • @tjaelens
    @tjaelens 3 года назад

    Good info for young people and thier parents

  • @DanijelTurina973
    @DanijelTurina973 4 года назад +10

    It's basically I teach my kid how to code, he wins the national IT competition and his teachers at school get a raise.

  • @chaumetlouis19
    @chaumetlouis19 5 лет назад +6

    I'm dropping out after the semester. College is mostly to get recognition by corporations but corporations are downsizing, outsourcing, offshoring, automating, etc. The gig economy is growing rapidly.
    The community college I'm at offers an Entrepreneurship certificate. I scoff at it because anyone who is good at entrepreneurship wouldn't be a teacher. That would be the bane of their existence...

    • @achillessong
      @achillessong 5 лет назад

      Why would a good entrepreneur want to work for university?

    • @razaquadri8031
      @razaquadri8031 5 лет назад

      Why after?

  • @kdizzy5849
    @kdizzy5849 3 года назад

    Great video. Thanks for sharing. I work in the college industry and I would have to say that you’re right 🤔 however, young people still need growth and maturity and they would have to attain that in institutions of higher learning. Just my opinion. Thanks again for sharing