The Social Justice Gospel
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Harris continue doing this there are many in the city that haven’t bow the knee. I thank you very much.
Attended Redeemer Presbyterian Church bet. 2007 - 2011, Tim Keller’s church - he baptized my first two boys. My family and I were founding members of a church plant (New Song) in Harlem. I had hopes of being in ministry - at times leading worship in the apartment of our pastor.
What revelations I had as I began to be mentored in the ministry of just how OTHER the gospel I was being asked to embrace, teach and model. Although I had no institutional theological training at the time I knew the gospel - I had been redeemed long before coming to Redeemer. Suffice it to say that there was subtle friction almost immediately between myself and my mentor/pastor as I grappled with the contradictions of the gospel of the Bible and the “mercy ministries”/social justice vision of Tim Kellers for the city of New York.
After two years of inquiry and at times gentle but ultimately condescending vagueness me and my family left Redeemer and their church plant efforts in Harlem.
This is one thing I can say; most Christians, while they may sense something is different in the gospel presentation and ask of the social justice gospel, most are ill prepared to identify that difference as error and a departure from the gospel of Jesus Christ. Far too many Christians don’t know what the gospel is nor the purpose of the church.
Thanks for this vid. Ultimately God protects His church - that we can joy in and be thankful. 🙏🏾
My son is 21 and going to a very liberal college. He’s a Christian and he is getting completely caught up in the social justice movement. I’m having a hard time convincing him it’s false gospel. We argue about it often. Please pray that the Lord will open his eyes to these things and see the deception in it. This podcast really helped me w/ clarity and some things to point out to him. Thank you for what you do! I’m getting your book!
I flirted with the idea of social justice too when I was in college. The opposition of social justice by very godly people i listened to brought me back to my senses. I'd encourage you to pursue godliness more so that he will see that you can know God better without being zealous for social justice, since social justice is not a means to know God more and glorify Him more. (Well you cant really know God better if you pursue the social justice false gospel). As well as trying to persuade him it's a false gospel.
Mikayla Holloway thank you for the encouragement! Good advice:)
I’m terribly sorry for you Sir. Jesus said that families will be separated over him. I pray that your family becomes spiritually united in Christ soon. But in the meantime, please cut your son off from college money if you can, in the name of the Jesus Christ! The crazies on the streets don’t need anymore moral support from leftwing social justice “Christians.”
Get him out of that college. I suggest listening to a lot of what Charlie Kirk says about how sending our kids to liberal colleges is playing Russian roulette with their values
@@JesseStevenPollom I even heard a very New Age type message from Liberty University recently. I hope our grandson will get a job or go to trade school. He can get a university degree later after he has a good job. His mom got a degree in nutrition from the Universidad Evangélica.
I know you've said you have other interests and career goals, but it just seems like God has put you in this position for such a time as this. In fact, I think it's that very "otherness" that tells me this is a God thing. May the Lord greatly bless and protect and multiply your efforts, in Jesus' mighty name. 🙏
Meg Houghton I so agree!
Meg, I also agree with you!!
Amen
In 1917 the Social Gospel became pervasive at Princeton Theological Seminary. . . The faculty that were conservative left to create Orthodox Presbyterianism: Gresham Machen, Meredith Kline and even David F.Wells were then keepers of this modern day reformation and helped to create the Alliance for Confessing Evamgelicals in the late 1990's right next to 10th Presbyterian Church. ( Where Tim Keller worshiped while finishing a Ph.D @ Westmister in 1992)
I love that you are giving a Gospel lesson, because Christians get the Gospel wrong so often, it's almost like a sin nature default to go back to a focus on doing, works salvation, rather than looking to Christ alone! Great video. May God use this for his glory!
Gal 3 verse 3
Please keep doing this work. I learn so much from your biblically grounded teaching. It’s so important to recognize the very “nuanced” false gospel that is infiltrating our churches today. I’m praying for you and look forward to reading the book you recommended and yours, when it’s published. God bless.
Thanks much John. I am a bible teacher/deacon at Clearcreek Chapel in Springboro, Ohio, and I write a quarterly Men's Discipleship Magazine. I will be using your materials to write our next "special" edition to warn the men of this false gospel. I also look forward to buying your new book Social Justice Goes to Church.
Much prayer beforehand!. Be prepared, for this will expose any chasm. Praise God for His refining fire! You may be surprised the impact the media has played on the most godly of men. We were called for such a time as this, and EVERY church needs to pray, hear, and battle against the enemy of our souls. May the Lord bless your writing
Channels like yours and AD Robles' are so appreciated. We are in a day and age where false teaching and worldly narratives have so infiltrated the church that it is sometimes hard to even parse the two!
Thank you. I felt like I was having flashbacks from my Sojourners days.
It struck me how time-bound the wokie evangelicals are. Looking at the date on their quotes tied them to to the times they were made ... like verbal versions of lime-green, polyester leisure suits. Ron Sider in 1977 was ripping the U.S. over "unjust social structures" of "international trade patterns," but now that China has the upper hand on world trade, I don't hear him making that issue an essential part of his "whole gospel." Ironically, today, it's Trump who's preaching against unjust trade patterns.
Indeed, trendiness has been the bane of evangelicalism for decades ... pop psychology, jumbotrons and rock bands, positive thinking ... basically anything that has Oprah-fied the larger culture gets adopted by evangelicals (that Oprah is pushing the new book "Caste" even as wokeness is infiltrating the church is no accident).
The riff on the only "real Christianity" being that of the slaves and the poor ... so, what happens to "real Christianity" if poverty is alleviated or if whatever-healing-from-slavery-is-supposed-to-occur actually happens? Does "real Christianity" disappear? Does Big Eva need the poor to stay poor in order to save "real Christianity"?
I suggest one of the biggest sources of systemic racism for blacks in the country is the worthless education they are given by public schools. It affects these kids for the rest of their lives and impacts the next generation. Those schools are owned -- lock, stock and barrel -- by the teachers unions who are pushing the same critical-race scam Big Eva is. Why is it not fighting this systemic racism by speaking against teacher unions or demanding the parents of those trapped kids be allowed to pick the school they want to attend. It might be that demanding Big Eva live out the implications of its new religion by fighting the systemic racism of leftist institutions would put its feet to the fire and show how bankrupt their agenda is.
As an example of doing just that, the president of Princeton recently published an 1,800-word virtue-signaling letter confessing the "structural racism" at the university. So, the Trump administration is taking him at his word and has opened an investigation to determine if the systemic racism-plagued university violated Title 6 when it took millions of federal dollars. Get woke, go broke.
Make cheap virtue-signaling expensive and it will go way. For Big Eva, make it bear the shame of ignoring the systemic racism of the left.
I cannot wait to see how the Princeton thing turns out. The irony there is especially juicy.
I’ve been waiting for this all day.
The other line I hear is that social justice needs more than the gospel. When I ask why, they can't give me an answer. The other error is that lamenting and repenting is an action that we "oppressors" need to do to the "victim" but not our own personal sins against God. And they claim that we are to repent of sins we never even committed. Ezekiel 18 says that God only holds us responsible for our sins against Him. No one can take the place of God as judge.
Sin against your fellow man is always an against God.
This is so important! Yes, I found myself puzzled when GF was killed and the protests and riots began because everything being discussed was so one-sided. It was being done to such a degree that I sensed that bullying tactics were being enacted (later I found out how true that was!). It was obvious that something significant was occurring and that I didn't understand what it was. I am so grateful for people like you who have helped to educate us about SJ, BLM, CRT, etc. We are in such a crucial time for the Church and our nation that we must pray, ask for wisdom, become informed and respond as the Lord leads us 🙏 I highly recommend looking up Darrell B. Harrison and Virgil Walker on the Just Thinking Podcast.
Thank you Jon, God bless you
Thank the Lord for those pastors, leaders, fellow believers that are holding true to the faith once delivered to the saints!
Any pastor who says they didn't understand the full gospel until learning CRT must step down as a new "convert" is not qualified to hold the position of pastor.
Keep up the great work Jon! Right on the money! As an 'old' Marine I am right there in the fight with you! Semper Fi & Agape! Captain Ed D. 'E2D' Seaman, USMC, Wild-honey, locust and crayon eating Marine of Christ!
Thank you for you service!
@@vickimoore6426 It was indeed my pleasure! Semper Fi!
Thank you for your service sir! And I would love to hear more about crayon eating... :)
Amen! Semper Fi and God bless brother!
Be encouraged! You did a great job Jonathan!
I was able to watch this again all the way through, and I am so thankful for the work you are doing, and I hope and pray that the Lord will continue to use this for his glory. It has made me realize just how deceptive the enemy is and to be on guard against false teaching hidden in between truth.
I have shared and I plan to get your book, and I hope your channel continues to grow. Your conversations do matter!!!!
Thank you for breaking this down.
Thank you Jon, you are helping me and a lot of others. Be encouraged 🙏🏽💯
Extremely strong presentation- need to become a patreon supporter. Such godly and well researched content..
Talking about your videos in our bible study last night. I’m currently working on a letter to my pastor about this stuff. Weekend after Floyd’s death, pastor read Woke Church and decided the church should read it too. It was an online sermon. June 6- TheWellCC.org
God bless you, Jon Harris, for using your gifts of persistent study and breaking down the information within all these trending false doctrines, so that caring Christians can learn these errors and explain it to others! I refer them to your RUclips channel, so they can gain much fuller understanding.
When I pray for you, I also pray for your wife and ask your other supporters to do so and to join in this prayer, as well! Almighty God, We thank You and praise You for Your Light and Word shining so brightly in the lives of both Jon and his wife. Thank You for bringing them together to fight the good fight to lift up Jesus Christ as Savior in Truth through the Word of God as presented in scripture alone! She needs the same strength and covering in prayer as Jon does!
God has gifted Jon to SPEAK THE TRUTH IN LOVE! Of all the fruits of the Spirit, LOVE is the greatest of all! Jon presents the TRUTH OF THE GOSPEL in kindness and gentleness, while calling out the lies and deceptions that the Father of Lies is currently pouring out through the false doctrines of social justice!
The effect of Jon's ministry to test each teaching by the standard of God's Word, is meant to bring false teachers and their followers to the truth and repentance!
And whereas we pray for many to repent and return to the truth of Biblical
Born Again Salvation, those who do not will persecute the truth tellers!
We pray for God to keep Jon and his wife in the many scriptures of God's faithfulness during persecution! The Psalms overflow with them!
Please bless all those who seek the truth and who pray for the lost to be set free from all false doctrine! Then Jesus Christ can set them free by His precious poured out blood and the holy, true Gospel! AMEN
Thank you for going through this.
So appreciate Jon’s ministry. He’s really helped me navigate through the “compassion” and morality of social justice.
This is breaking my heart! What is going on with all these guys?! It’s crazy.
Maybe your best yet. SO disturbing but necessary for us to know. Thank you so much, Jon.
This is excellent- so helpful! Thank you for all the time you put into these videos.
Keep up the fight, Jon! Appreciate your extensive work and efforts in defending the Gospel in a pastoral and insightful way. My husband and I are living overseas ministering to the Chinese all around the world and are currently in covid lockdown. When Breonna Taylor and George Floyd were killed, I started hearing about this from my millennial daughter who was becoming very passionate about social justice. This was all new to me; I was clueless so I started searching the internet to learn about it. Your "Conversations That Matter" was the first site I came to; it was not only extremely helpful but turned the alarm on to what my daughter was leaning toward. Because the social justice theory is so squishy and based on feelings, it was literally impossible for me to have a rational conversation with her. So, as a mom who wants to keep our communication lines open, but lives on the other side of the pond, I pray - I pray that God would use this in her life to grow her faith.
I think what also, after prayer, could help your daughter is finding stories of those who escaped from or lived in countries with Marxism. Their stories show what living under communism is like and can counter the emotional tug of stories like those of Breonna Taylor. Someone should organize some resources.
@@reformed5558 Her Chinese grandparents fled Communist China in 1949 for Taiwan. And her father has served in many underground churches. She knows the whole story so that is why we see this as more of a spiritual battle of her faith than a lack of logic or reason. There's something happening with millennial white women coming out of college that makes this movement especially attractive to them.
Thanks so much Jon, all your videos are so helpful
This whole Social Justice concept strikes me as Cane and Able all over again. Sin is crouching at the Social Justice Warriors door.
I left my Church of 20 years because of this. Southern Babtist.
I am still amazed that the Resurgence movement in the SBTS has come to this. There is no double in my mind it is heresy. And yet the institution that promoted orthodoxy has embraced heresy. How the might have fallen!
Thanks so much Jon! Great presentation!
Thank you so much for all your hard work. God bless you and your family. We will be buying your book one for us and one for our pastor in hopes they stop allowing this CRT message into our church.🥰🙏
I will be getting your book, Lord's willing. ❣
Thanks Brother Harris, I watched it all the way through. It is encouraging to see people standing up for Orthodoxy, please pray for me as I've decided to dig into this further and when the time is right, confront the appropriate parties about this in the hope that God will grant them repentence (2 Timothy 2:25)
John, thank you so much for bringing this historical and conceptual clarity to this most pernicious issue. Maranatha!
Thank you so much Jon. May the Lord bless you richly. 😊🙏
Such a great episode, Jon! Listened to it three times now and I get something different from it every time. Thanks and please keep up the great work!
Preordered your book this week. Can't wait it receive it. Will share this video with my family.
This is absolutely powerful and clarifying ! What a treasure of a video!
This makes me sick, knowing I have heard or read books from many men you reference in your study. How do I sit in church now and wonder how much of this my own pastor has bought into? How can I tithe knowing a portion is sent to a seminary that hires such men to espouse such trash? My only response as I write this is: "even so come, Lord Jesus."
I’m just learning about all this and making me just sick and want to know who to trust to read
Timely and well put. I live in a small town that was described in Dr. Walter Martin's book "The Kingdom of the Cults " as " Ojai Calif. the cult capital of the western world " this knowledge is greatly needed
Than
I’m going to watch and rewatch this as I continue to discuss this with my friends and even to people who wouldn’t call me their friend anymore 🤙🏼
Thank you for a great exposition of the gospel (15:41). One of the primary failures in the western Church is the failure to test to see if the people are really in the faith; to determine if they understand the true gospel of justification by faith alone in Jesus Christ alone (not by works). We may not be where we are today with the infiltration of wolves touting the heresy of the Social Justice Gospel if the people understood the true gospel of Jesus Christ and understood that it is a "different gospel" as Paul notes.
Well done! Thank you for all the work you've put into this. It is very helpful!
Thank you!
I came across this podcast today. Thank you for your comprehensive critique of this issue. It quite clearly explained the issues with the social justice gospel. The church I grew up in unfortunately was overtaken by this and as a result I decided not to attend this church denomination when I became an adult. Unfortunately, the church I have attended for the past approx. 30 years has also been overtaken by this in recent years. I am at a loss at how to address this at a local level as I have too late realised that this had occurred and am no longer in a position to exercise any influence with current leadership. I really appreciate your work - keep it up!
Thank you for this video! I just pre-ordered your book; I'm doing my part to financially support this cause!
Great job on this video. You hit the nail right on the head!
Will you please discuss NT Wright in an upcoming video?
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
I appreciate what you did in this video, very much. As I was watching, it came to me that this social gospel movement is exactly what happened in the 1800's with John Nelson Darby and his corruption of Christian beliefs, but I do believe that the social gospel is much worse. Thank you for your video!
Most excellent and helpful video, kudos Jon.
The challenge for many of us (me) in listening to your videos is that your view of the issues is so much larger than mine. I am in a church that is not a part of the SBC and does not, as far as I know, have direct influence from most of the authors/leaders you mention. (No doubt they are influencing many of the leaders of my church in some way, I am just not aware of it as their is never any mention of names.) This is a good video for me because it doesnt go to much into the weeds. I understand the need to get into the weeds to fully understand where much of this thought is going but I feel a greater need to understand the basics of what the social justice gospel is , what the arguments are and how I can respond. Anyway, thank you for all your efforts. They are not without affect!!! God bless.
Thank you for putting this all in one video! I read Voddie Baucham’s book Fault Lines, but a lot of us are auditory learners 😅
I just found this It is Profound, and such an amazing teaching, Thankyou
Thanks for this! I'd be sure to watch out for these ideas in our churches here in the Philippines.
Watching from Phoenix!
Thai you for this insightful and powerful study!
Just had a lovely debate with a co-worker who is Hispanic. I'm English decent. And he basically told me I'm racist and don't understand because I'm 'white'
Keep in mind this man claims to be a believer and goes to SBTS. I really am trying to understand how this is a tool to be used. And all he could tell me is that I shows that there is oppression and wrongs done. Sin? Yup.
So I asked then why do we need it? We have Genesis 3. He then took that as my lackluster, 'who cares mentality' and thus we should not care about abortion or anything else. Huh? Exactly. I'm even less convinced that this 'tool' should be used in the church
This is the best intro to the bigger discussion of how postmodernism is corrupting the faithful into the devil's purpose.
Keep speaking the truth! A false light trying to deceive.
How do people fall for this? It is easier to follow the stream than to go up-stream. It takes determination and commitment to our Lord and Savior, his power, grace, and mercy to stay with him, our only hope for our salvation!
“When the church joins up with the world it is the true church no longer but only a pitiful hybrid thing, an object of smiling contempt to the world and abomination to the Lord” A.W. Tozer
Yesssssssssss
Thank you very much. The winds of Social Justice are sweeping up the younger leaders in Christianity. This is very bothersome to me. I just happened to run into this video. I thank God for this. Keep up the great work.
Incredibly helpful video- I’ve been asleep! Waking up...
We are saved when we confess our sins ask God for forgiveness and we are saved by faith through grace.
The main problem with social justice is that it reduces the essence of sin to man to man (racism) instead of man’s breaking Gods law (man to God). By reducing sin to a primarily horizontal orientation you have to completely rewrite the gospel into something that will fix the horizontal problem instead of the need of the Savior to repair the damage we caused against God’s law
That is what happened during the Renaissance late 14th C to early 16th century. Re rediscovery of Greco-Roman culture through art, architecture, and literature was embraced and fused with Christianity.
This is excellent.
I am enjoying your broadcasts and learning from them. One suggestion, could you slow down a little? My ears can't keep up with you. Thanks
Thank you!
Rewind it and listen again! Lol
Thank you Jon. Keep it up.
Good job. I'm much older than you Jon and the names presented here Ive heard since the seventies and understood they were false teachers.
This sounds like words are being refined..Noticed this a few yrs ago..But today it is really bad..and no one is paying attention..
The gospel is what Christ did, all that he did, and how those actions of his are our salvation by faith. It's the good news of Jesus Christ.
I’m 77 years old and I am a SB member and my grandfather was a Baptist and was never taught anything about race.
Jon: So much enjoy your videos and your spirit. I followed all of the video and the slides. Very good and great flow of scripture and thought. AND I do want to share it! Of course in this day and age we all want short cuts. So: guilty. What I'm saying is: Is there any way you could produce a condensed version that could be shared? (I know: that all the content is important and that people will watch a 2 hour movie no problem, but won't spend 1:11:50 to strengthen their faith!)
Excellent
well done sir
What always infuriates me is when a pastor or other Christian says "you need to earn the right to tell someone the gospel"!! Really? Wonder what they'd say to Jesus when he called the Pharisees "white-washed tombs; children of the devil; liars; stiff-necked people" etc.? I guess Jesus wasn't so hung up on "earning the right" to tell people the gospel.
That "final justification" part in 21:26 sounds like John Piper.
Jude 4. Over the course of my life time the SBC has gone through many ups and down in their doctrinal position. It is very sad but it is not only in the SBC but throughout most denominations. I am a SBC pastor. I am very worried about all that is happening in Evangelicalism, especially Neo-evangelicalism. By the way Neo-evangelicalism has been looked at by many in Christianity lately as a good thing. It is not! What is the answer? 1. Stay faithful to the Word of God. 2. Stay faithful to God Himself. 3. Share the true Gospel of the Bible not the social gospel. 4. Pray, pray, pray for the church and its leaders. Remember Jude 4.
Jim Wallis was the go to theologian (so-called) of the Clinton Whitehouse. He is total into Social Gospel. I can see his Marxist attachment and his liberation theological position.
Using poison to describe and understand truth does not work. Liberation Theology is the poison and the Gospel of Jesus Christ is the truth.
Addressing problems in our pulpits is not foolishly discussion, but we need the truth because the lie is being spread everywhere.
Just a side note - I have noticed that everyday I am receiving emails from Southern Baptist Theological Seminary for financial donations. I rarely received those in the past. I am wondering with the effect of the covid virus but also their involvement in the social justice and BLM movements, that the seminary is being "defunded". This whole CRT is a non-issue all around the rest of the world (writing from Malaysia) so trying to promote a "localized" issue as a gospel issue is merely a huge distraction or fad that will disappear but leave a wake of spiritual destruction.
Wondering how long Dr Strickland has been teaching this?
The last bullet point on "Mixing Law and Grace: An Example" is the same position as John Piper. He uses "final salvation" and Daniel Fuller uses "final justification" as well. I wondered how long this would take to manifest in SJ gospel.
Now a lot of podcasts like yours have the ability to reply turned off. Sadness. Thank you for your work.
Excellent and necessary exegesis.
I don’t know if this is an easy explanation or not, but I get confused when these guys say “CRT can be used as an analytical tool” what do they mean by that. I have heard it over and over again and I’m just learning about this CRT/Intersectionality stuff, so I am not as smart as many of you, so apologies if this is such a basic question, but I am trying to understand. Thank you!
Jon, your videos on this topic have been awesome and very helpful. Thank God, I am in a solid church that rejects this movement! I pray for the others that have to leave their church to find truth.
CRT is a useful tool if you want to twist the Bible to force it to support Marxism.
It’s like saying you ou should use Darwin’s teachings as a tool to study creation in the Bible or study an Atheists work like Dawkins as a tool to appreciate God in science.
Thank you @Greg B and @Gene Chastain
@@gchastain1 -- Well put!
Incredible video !
I had no idea! Is this what some of this rioting is about?
The main objection that I've heard for a soft defense of the notion of atonement applying to non-cognitive entities is, "This can happen, because Jesus makes all things new, including the earth"...or something like that. But we know that here and now, "all creation is groaning" in anticipation of Christ's return. My understanding is that the restoration of anything non-cognitive will be AFTER Christ's second coming. Sure, believers being salt and light in the world will have the positive effects of reflecting Christ where they go, but the institutions and structures are not themselves being atoned for. Is this an accurate distinction to make?
Yes. Jon touched on it in passing when he was discussing Richard Mouw and Mouw's understanding of Kuyper (i.e. Neo-Kuyperian) regarding institutions and structures. Ironically enough Kuyper himself does not address institutions and structures in the same manner as Mouw.
"Jargon, terms and words ..." -- yes indeed. Which is the greater problem: 1) God's church or 2) the general public's lack of understanding of the words "Gospel" and "Grace'? A real grasp and true appreciation for God's grace and the gospel pulls the social justice movement and its many allies into the light; bringing it to its knees.
Preach Christ's positive gospel and God's grace and nothing can stand before these ...
I just found this and now got his book on kindle and will start to read tomorrow. Can someone get me a few names of Christian writers that do still tell the truth
I just came across a RUclips video with John Piper sitting next to Timothy Keller being interviewed by someone I'm not familiar with, but I'm so disappointed to see that he has apparently jumped on this train of social justice in the church. What do you know about Piper, has indeed embraced this ideology?
The new intro music is way better by the way.
When James Cone was teaching and preaching during Jim Crow, naturally he taught liberation theology reflecting his oppressed state of time. That’s not Marxism.
I agree that these people are trying to complicate the simplicity of the gospel. If you are telling people that all they have to do is believe Christ died for our sins and just carry on with their sinful lives is not the gospel either. Jesus wants us to live a sinless life. What is sin? lawlessness! Jesus said "if you love Me keep My commandments". The Son of God wrote those commandments with His own finger. Careful what you preach. You will be held accountable for any soul you lead astray.
When Jesus arrived to inaugurate the Kingdom, his preached repentance as John the Baptist. "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe the gospel" Mk 1: 15. Deep repentance, walking in the Spirit and living a life of practical holiness is the only evidence our faith is real, saving faith. Sin is cosmic rebellion. Against you and you only have I sinned (Ps 51:4). The lack of emphasis on repentance is an earmark common among all false teaching. Deep repentance will always be found among the remnant, the true church of Jesus Christ. You are right on target Gene.