Some of the better places I've worked, there were a "quiet rooms" where you can take a nap, breastfeed your kid, or just enjoy a quiet moment alone if you're having a hectic day. Also, it was company policy to only schedule meetings during "core business hours" which were 9am to 3pm. This allowed parents to drop off their kids at school and still get to work without missing any important meetings. Or maybe you're just a late-riser or have a lengthy commute. They had cafeterias with 4-star catering, on-site day care for kids too young for school, and laundry services. Companies can and will accommodate workers when they are properly incentivized, either by law, market forces, or labor unions.
I don’t think companies realise that somebody working at 50% efficiency and severe lack of motivation and sleep for 9 hours is worse than somebody working for maybe 5 or 6 hours at close to 100% efficiency with the capacity to complete tasks to their full potential. You’re losing more money by treating us like shit than you would if you actually helped us do our jobs to the best of our ability
Looking back at the chapter titles, I'll be clear that I do not read the chapter titles. It's a storytelling device that they use fairly often, though.
as a Spaniard I can only emphasize how great and important "la siesta" is. our working hours allow us to sleep for an hour or so at around 4pm. it's really refreshing and a good way to rest during the day
For people who need to travel a bit longer to work (at least half an hour), do they go home to nap, or they nap at work? If so, are there dedicated places in workplaces for siestas?
@@hetsmiecht1029 no napping for them. there's no dedicated place at work for siestas, so usually that off-time sucks. you can't go home to sleep or do anything productive because there's not much time left with all the travelling, and you usually can't stay in work/school. in high school I had physical education anywhere between 30 minutes and 2 hours after the school day ended (depending of the year), where I couldn't go home to have a siesta (I did anyways, and slept through many classes) but I also couldn't stay in school unless something bad had happened, so having that time off sucked for me.
Man, you are so lucky. Where I’m from, taking a nap means ‘slowing down’ and ‘falling behind’ and if a student naps during the day, people believe that he/she is a hopeless case and a lazy person. And this is just junior high!
French restaurants do this too at around 2-3pm- there is no such thing as a late lunch out in some towns and villages in France, because they’re closed so everyone can take a nap. The only alternative for someone in the us is try to nap in their car with an eyemask on their 30 minute lunch break *instead* of eating. So depending on your metabolism may be a good idea or may be downright impossible.
Absolutely. As a Spaniard too, most Spanish people have one or two naps per day. It’s really refreshing and most people go to sleep between 11-12pm and have to wake up really early to get to work or school. So taking naps during 5e day is totally normal in Spain!
The secret is to own a cat, train them to have breakfast at a certain time, and then they'll just wake you up. I do still set an alarm clock, but I rarely really wind up needing it
It works great! I got my cat from a school mate, who didn't have enough space anymore and the cat was used to getting up with her previous owner at 5:30. Problem was, I was getting up at 6:30 and it took the cat like half a year to adjust, not a fun time. Only long after I noticed something: The cat was able to tell weekdays from weekends, she only woke me up 5 days a week.
I Was just thinking about a motto or some catchphrase to find them easier! I first saw a video of them do a wine review (sorta kinda) and went down a rabbit hole searching for videos related to wine, squarespace, and coding because the main girl spoke of her coding experience in a few other videos. Luckily for me I was able to find them in my recommended a bit later.
Yeah knowing your own sleep schedule is key. Eight hours is NOT enough for me, and I sleep better if I go to bed at midnight and wake up at 9am than going to bed at 10pm and waking up at 7am. My body HATES waking up before 9, and yet I do it everyday to get to work. And I barely recover on the weekends when I *am* able to sleep in, assuming I get a good night's sleep at all (because my body sometimes just doesn't cooperate, and then I'm fucked the next work week and even MORE exhausted leading up to the weekend after... which EASILY spirals into burnout). Society's current sleep culture doesn't account for disability or illness either. You need more sleep to recover, but you're expected to keep grinding at the same pace as someone perfectly fit and well. It's obscene and I hate it.
YES I HATE HOW RIGID MY SCHOOL SCHEDULE IS!! I like sleeping from midnight or 1 to about 8 or 9 but I need to leave my house at 8 and I can't change my schedule on the weekend or else I'll be tired on monday
For me it turned out to be actually helpful to not sleep in on the weekends. I try to go to bed at the same time and wake up at the same time (using an alarm clock, of course) every single day. That way I reduced the problems I had with falling asleep and I also feel less fucked up in the morning.
I'm really glad that more people are talking about "sleep culture" and how society and our obligation to exist in it polices our sleep habits. This culture doesn't even consider those with sleep disorders such as insomnia, narcolepsy, or any other type of sleep disorder that makes one's sleep schedule not fit within capitalism. We've been led to believe that having a non-conventional sleep schedule is a moral failing or a disorder that needs to be fixed. I wish that we can go to sleep when we feel tired, wake up when we feel awake, and conform our daily schedule around our sleep instead of conforming our sleep to our daily schedule.
I've been doing Ph.D. research for the last four years. In this time I rarely had appointments (even rarer before noon) and, even before the pandemic, I could easily work from home whenever I wanted (I'm doing a Ph.D. in mathematics). This means, for the last four years, I've been pretty much freed from all those societal obligations. And what did I learn about my sleep schedule in all this time? At least for me, it's not just society and capitalism and sleep culture. For me it's the sheer concept of a day consisting of 24 hours. If I sleep as long as my body demands, I'll sleep for 10+ hours. This means I'd have to become sleepy again after about 14 hours of being awake. But I'm not. I can easily go for 18 to 20 hours without feeling the urge to search my cushions. So I'd need the day to consist of about 30 hours (how long is a day on Mars?). On the other hand this means that, in order to deal with a 24 hour day, I actually need to undersleep consistently. That's why I settled on using an alarm clock to get up about the same time every day (weekends included), even though I didn't have to.
@@lonestarr1490 I did this cause of the pandemic. Slept when I was tired, woke up when I woke up. It was so nice not fighting to get to every morning. I ended up averaging about 26 hours. And I feel so much more rested, despite only getting a little more sleep per 24 hour average.
While I agree with your idea about sleeping favoring the morning people, and not considering those with sleep disorders, and how nice it would be to just sleep when you’re tired. I don’t know that it’s always fair to blame everything on one aspect, which often tends to be capitalism. Sadly, I doubt that most people’s work ethic fits with the agricultural lifestyle that would perhaps “unbind” us from the capitalistic sleep schedule. Farming, growing your crops, creating or gathering something to trade in exchange for other resources, etc is hard work, that I’m not sure I could do. It’s either an agrarian life or something else, but I don’t think there’s a perfect system for work/sleep balance. Even a socialist or tyrannical system would demand some people create jobs/wealth, distribute wealth (goods, resources, money, etc), work, cook, homemake, etc. I think it’s more influenced by the individual, the way their society is structured, perhaps family and other sort of supports, their natural circadian rhythm, their values, and how they would want to choose to live their lifestyle. If anything, entrepreneurship under capitalism, the ability to have flexible work schedules, and technology that can give people more freedom. It’s certain types of service jobs, or jobs that require business type hours, that lead to some inflexibility, but all these things allowed different jobs to be done from home, allowed jobs we never thought of before like being a contact creator, editing from your home, doing computer things from your home, owning your own business, etc. Not saying that it’s easy, just that there’s more options now than only factory jobs or farming.
When I had a break from school and was off work for about a week, I didn't set an alarm clock and let myself sleep without interruption. I consistently got 10-11 hours of sleep every night and never felt so rested.
the main issue with this is that altho it feels really nice to be rested and I would love sleep every day for 10-11 hours, it leaves little to no time for other activities if you also have 8-9h work day.
honestly, i have adhd, and alarms on my phone are the only thing that makes me remember certain things, so i love them. they're very useful if you don't have a sense of time when you're awake either
@@juliaf_ I got an alarm app that you can set little tasks you have to do to turn off the alarm. There's preset options, you can decide which to use. It cut my "dismiss without thinking about it" rate to about 10%.
@@juliaf_ set funny reminders on them instead! I have one at 4:00pm that used to be when I had my meds, but when the timing and dosage was changed, I just kinda kept it around. All my daytime alarms are set to this nice little jazz riff, and the alarm name for that one has been changed from "dřugs,?" to "You're [age] you dumb ***" since I kept saying the wrong one. I rarely miss it now, lmao.
I think the best way to see the natural sleep cycle is to go camping for a week, when you have no outside obligations, no internet to distract you, and having a day full of walking and activities, it's amazing how easily you fall asleep at sundown ~8pm and wake up at sunrise 5-6am. I usually go to sleep at midnight and wake up around 9-10am, and it only takes a day or two of camping to reset that.
I was camping for 9 days this summer and did not have this experience 😅 still loved going to sleep late and wake up late (sun had to wake me with most ridiculous heat in my tent before my body even decided to do any being awake stuff)
Also just like there's a difference between natural sleep and sleep under industrial capitalism, there's also a difference between sleep in agrarian societies and natural sleep. Plenty of people would have a fire going for warmth in winter, or other tasks that couldn't run for too long without tending. When people talk about biphasic sleep, they forget that people weren't getting up in the middle of the night for fun. And, just because we can get up halfway through without being sleep deprived doesn't mean waking up for a while before going back to sleep is our bodies preferred sleep schedule.
@@yusurkassem4174 boomer bosses that think you should power through everything. Not like I was taking a siesta(with all the studies on that),wish I could. Office manager would tattletale about everything(she had no control over service tech)and boss was an asshat.
I think the trick is to know what's ok to miss and what's not. Risk sleeping in when you can, but if you NEED to get up by a certain time, set an alarm anyways at a time where you'd be in a bit of a rush. if you wake up early, no biggie, and you won't be stressed about missing work. And going to bed extra early as a habit helps too.
Yeah, i try to give my self no alarm days often it's easier if you don't have class or work in the morning at the every day, aldo you can tray to go to sleep early to try and give you time to be sure you'll be on time. I have also found that waking up with the sun is much easier and I'm less grumpy that with an alarm clock so if i have to wake up between 8-9 i will try to go to sleep by midnight and then just make sure my curtains are open and the sun will be able to come in. Waking up in a good mood does make yiu fell well rested. Lastly I am Spanish so if I don't have many appointments and or i can reschedule siestas are always allowed. I learned in highschool that I value more myself than may work/homework so i never drink coffee and if i have to decide between them i will choose me and go to sleep. I'm useless when i need to sleep anyways.
@@lilac.mascara so do I, But if you start just going to bed sooner, eventually you’ll get used to it and if you don’t sleep well, you’ll sleep better the next night. Eventually your body will know when it’s bedtime, still might take an hour or two but it’s better than falling asleep at 1-2am.
It wouldn't be easy. While it is related to capitalism, it's way more about the industrial revolution, which was a novelty at the time and drastically changed the world. And while yes, in some ways for the worse, in some ways for the better too. The society before that was the agricultural one, where people started having large farms and living in large settlements. Well, in agrarian societies there were other problems, horrible health conditions (plagues), and also it was when the patriarchy started in the first place (as well as other large-scale inequalities). In the modern world, we have a way more egalitarian society then before, but prior to the Agricultural Revolution, we had an absolutely egalitarian society, without the patriarchy at all. It was the hunter gathering years. And this era wasn't perfect either, it didn't have modern technology so many people died very young. So this sort of analysis of saying it's only because of capitalism seems very simplistic when our society is complex and was never perfect.
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Also as an autistic person with a special interest in sleep I'm so hype seeing people starting to take an interest in/ realising the importance of sleep!
damn, as an autistic/adhd person to whome sleep is the bane of my existence, having it as a special interest sounds pretty fun! Do you find that because of that interest you have a healthier sleep pattern, then? bc i know not all autistic people are insomniacs. Or do you struggle with sleep too like many of us, but you just understand the science of it better?
This is actually so important on a structural and accessible level. I've accidentally lived this experiment because I've been unemployed since March 2020. I've stopped booking any appointments or social stuff before noon because I'm naturally a night owl-i find it hard to fall asleep before 1 or 2am even when I have no caffeine for a week. By following my body's natural sleep cycle, I've found I actually only need 7 hours to feel rested versus the 8-9 hours I needed when I was forcing myself into earlier wake up times. I also found pre-pandemic that the earlier I wake up, the worse my chronic pain and chronic nausea are. When I did an internship that started at 10am I had no problems. Trying to go to classes or other jobs earlier took a huge toll on my body. It's an even bigger problem in high schools where the majority of students fall into a different sleep pattern than adults, but the schedule is based around parents' and teachers' needs
wait a minute, you mean to tell me: "Dr Dr, I have pain when I wake up in the morning" "wake up in the afternoon then. that will be $50000" actually works?
literally had the exact same experience. as a rule unless the appointment is otherwise impossible to get nothing before noon. no regular obligations before noon. I can do with much less sleep when I follow my body clock too. 3 am is my time and that’s just how it is!
from what I've read, it's not even set around teachers' time. teachers have a slightly better time and are happier and healthier when school starts later(a minor increase, but an increase). there's basically no reason for high school to not start later...
So I'm 30, and for years I've tried to avoid using an alarm to wake up. What I've learned is that your body will wake itself up subconsciously when it feels the need to. If you worry that you need to be up at a certain time, until you've grown accustomed to it, you will continue wake up throughout the night being worried. It won't be until you have overslept a few times that you'll naturally get into a rhythm of being able to wake up without an alarm at a specific time. You also have to try and let the things that worry you just leave your mind when you're going to sleep as well, especially if you know there's nothing you need to do the next day, otherwise you could allow a work schedule that doesn't apply for the next day to subjugate your sleep schedule on your days off. After years of not really sleeping with alarms, I can't sleep with alarms. Alarms don't work to wake me up anymore, I just sleep right through them. I know that if I go to sleep around 12:00 a.m., I'll wake up around 7:00 or 8:00 a.m.. If I go to sleep around 4:00 a.m., I'll wake up pretty consistently around 12:00 p.m. A lot of what causes poor sleep is stress and worry. If you're worried that you're going to miss something, you will sleep a lot worse, Even if you stay asleep for a full 7 to 8 hours. It really is a mind over matter thing. The idea of a structured schedule can be both a blessing and a curse. When you've adjusted for it, that schedule can make things very easy. But at the same time that schedule can introduce more worry and stress that can actually affect how well you sleep.
This is exactly it. I wake up naturally when I need to, but I have an alarm set to the latest time I should be out of bed that I end up dismissing before it even rings 99% of the time.
Not sure if it's a good thing or not, but I always wake up just before the alarm rings every time I use it. Unless I really needed the sleep and then the alarm will be useless. I treat oversleeping as a signal that my sleep schedule isn't good.
funny thing about going sleep late and waking up late. for me if I go sleep at 22:00, I wake up at ~9:00, but if I go to sleep at 4 in the morning, I still wake up at ~9:00. and the level of how rested I am depends on how much I have been getting sleep before that. So in the end, if I have been constantly getting 8 hours of sleep for the past 3-4 days, I can easily go through a day by getting just 4 hours of sleep that night.
I had pretty terrible sleep habits due to having depression most of my life, but then I got one of those alarm clocks that lights up gradually before the alarm goes off and it changed my life. It helped me actually wake up on time for important things like classes, job interviews etc. Wouldnt say my natural sleep schedule is perfectly suited to societal expectation but it's far harder to sleep though the alarm if there's a bright light in my face
How about Japan? They nap everywhere all the time, on the bus, the train, on public benches and even on the workplace itself. It is not frowned upon but seen as "wow, this person worked so hard, he's now completely tired!". I guess this helps a lot in sleeping habits. (while being aware that Japan has an insane work-life-balance, work is completely and fully integrated in your free time as well and they have incredibly few days off)
Sorry to break it to you, but this is just a stereotype. Yeah people nap in trains or during lunch breaks but that is just because they don’t get enough sleep during the night (many companies make you work overtime every day so 6 hours or less sleep is pretty normal). Sleeping on your job is not a good thing in Japan either; it just sometimes happens because it’s very hard to fire somebody lol. But you will never be promoted let alone praised for it.
@@MarleenEliza Also it's not like people don't do that in other countries... If you haven't seen someone asleep on public transit then you probably don't ride it often enough lol
Just wanted to jump in an add: if blaring alarms aren't your thing, try birdsong. It triggers a part of your brain that says, "oh hey, the suns up, lets get movin," and it's considerably less terrifying than the usual alarm.
My bedroom has an eastern window. I have a really excellent body clock, but I still have to use an alarm in case the morning is cloudy. Nothing is more sleep inducing than a math proof, so It was always easy for me to sleep in college. The best part was whenever I solved the proof while sleeping. When I had to wake up at 5:30 for work, I found the best time to go to bed was 10:30. If I couldn't fall asleep, I learned to stop worrying because my body was still resting even if I wasn't sleeping.
Sleep is literally the number one piece of advice I give anyone who ever vaguely seems like they might take my advice 😂 it’s so wildly undervalued and no one my age (Gen Z and Millennials) seems to really grasp how much it affects _literally everything else_ in our lives!
I can't do anything at all when I am tired. I am like a literal zombie, and then I curse myself because I waste my day. It's terrible for me and for the others, since I am not in a good mood, no matter how much caffeine I consume.
Being originally from Spain it's funny to see this after decades of people asking me if I nap during the day with a judgemental tone. I don't, I'm subject to the same societal norms as everybody, but I think is interesting how it's been associated with laziness yet people who manage to do so actually are more aware and perform better.
@@fannishfanning160 sleep feels like a waste of time only if you already are sleep deprived, outside of vacations you'd usually not get actually enough for full awareness but that 50-80% would be your norm. For example during vacations or weekends people who sleep the actual amount needed complete more projects and have more effective progress.
this made me realize I've been living that experiment the whole time because my brain will just "shut off" the ability to hear my alarm sometimes and I have ADHD sleep issues and time blindness . . . and the results are basically this vlog - not being able to sleep bc I'm worried about not being able to wake up, missing the alarm or waking up naturally but in a panic - yipes. Y'all don't live like this already?
I do disagree about the "industrial revolution caused the night's sleep" thing. Even in the Ancient world (Rome in specific) it was 'up at dawn, in home by dark' just because there weren't street lights. They had naps far more often than we do today, but they definitely had to get all their work done before dusk.
@@ScutoidStudios from my cursory research, they weren't biphasic at night (and doing chores in the night would have cost a lot of money for lighting), but were probably somewhat biphasic with a nap near the middle of the day (siesta-like).
The 8 hour work/school day has me always tired to the point of barely functioning. It is difficult to learn or be productive living in today's society, but membership isn't really very optional. So, thank you for making a video about this, more people need to become more concious about how sleep works so that maybe we'll eventually get to live in a society that isn't torture. Regards, 🧠
I never understood the bragging about not getting sleep. Since High school, I have always put sleep above most things even if it meant a small reduction in the quality of my school work. I kept prioritizing sleep through undergrad and grad school and like I was not top of the class, but I was a good student. I think this means I'm a little more in tune with how much sleep my body needs and what time of day I work best (I am a morning person by far). Also it's funny because I am a morning person and I don't drink coffee which always makes people look at me sideways when I have to get up early to be on a job site, but I am relatively okay and not very groggy. Sleep is key. and I'm glad it's becoming more of a discussion because I feel like I have it relatively easy because my sleep habits line up with general work hours and things like that. I know people who are total night owls and have had so many issues through school and work because of it, but I think they have been doing better with that work from home pandemic life. It's all super interesting! (I also don't use an alarm clock unless I have to get up uncharacteristically early and even then my body eventually adjusts to the new wake up time if I have to do it for a week or two in a row.)
Excatly that is true. In Highschool (in Germany) I went to bed at like 9 PM on the weekdays. How I remember I was one of the only ones who was not tired in the first class of the day starting at 08:00 AM. Now in university it is kinda different but I use a light alarm clock and my hue lamps which are awesome. Sleep is just great
Yeah. Like bragging about how you're chronically sleep deprived and have to mainline caffeine to function is so common. And super frustrating. Especially cause I can't really have caffeine, well not unless I want a world of pain to bring me to me knees. So it's sleep or be tired, there is no other option.
Hot tip for sleepy service employees who take the bus and need to set limits: At your current/next job, make your starting hours start when the buses get convenient, not the first hour they're available. Stick to it and make a fuss the moment that boundary is crossed, make them know how tired you are. As a barista this hasn't acquired me any naps, but I start no sooner than 9am, meaning I get up at 7:30 at the earliest. An hour to be human, thirty minutes for the bus that now arrives every 15min instead of 20 to 30min on weekdays
I hated alarms. I still dont like them, but waking up to a quiet calming melody getting progressively louder rather than a loud blaring siren helped immensely
I am lucky not to need an alarm clock most of the time, but I realized that each time I actually need to use one I almost always wake up before it rings (less than an hour before). Because nothing is worse than having your sleep cycle interrupted, and that thought really stresses me out.
Answer in Progress chapter titles are SO good oh my god. I started napping mid-day during the pandemic - I work from home in a job that allows for that sort of flexibility - and I was constantly stuck between 'this feels like exactly what my body and brain needs' and 'this is weird and wrong and I shouldn't be doing it'. The pressure to fit the norm is heavy, especially for neurodiverse folks trying to fit in with neurotypical coworkers.
I have anxiety and there is nothing more crucial to my well being than good sleep. I know it can be annoying sometimes, but if you can, prioritise sleep as highly as possible.
I think this experiment would’ve been more suitable if you took a week off of work and not make any obligatory appointments. So that you’re not worried about waking at a certain time or that you’d miss something if you didn’t. I think doing it when you’re not scheduled to go somewhere will prove that our sleep has become ndustrialized
When I was working in Vietnam, everyone would take out their sleeping mats and take a nap from 12-1pm. My friends in the UK were so shocked about that. I wish that was more of a thing.
This is a very interesting experiment. Here is my personal experience: I love and hate alarm clocks. They are useful for being on time and not missing important and/or fun things. They are hated because you do not want to leave your sleep or leave your dream. Now on days where I had no plans (like when I am on vacation or during the quarantine), I am not missing anything. I had all my alarms off and slept REALLY well. I lost weight and went into a really healthy BMI. I was feeling great. Sadly, quarantine ended/vacations ended and it's back to social obligation/work obligation. Sleep went back to being industrial and weight began to gain with the stress.
Love how everything bad is cause of capitalism, makes me feel less crazy in knowing that's something is wrong in our society and it's just not me "not working hard enough"
Online school has kinda been a sleep experiment in itself I’ve been going to sleep between 2:30 and 4:00am and waking up at around 2:00pm, It definitely makes me curious as to what other people’s natural sleep patterns are
I'd say an alarm clock is basically an insurance against oversleeping. That insurance is why you're sleeping better, as you don't have that pressure of waking up in time naturally in the back of your head all the time. Having said that, I'm in a 9-5 office job for years now, and my body has gotten used to that. Even during weekends or holidays, my sleep schedule isn't too dissimilar to what it is on workdays.
i have a 6-2 factory (support) job, and the same thing happens. i used to wake up between 430 and 500 every morning without an alarm clock no matter what (well, daylight stupid time would mess with it a little for a couple weeks a year). i would set the alarm just in case, but woke up before it actually went off.
this video was really interesting and makes me think about when i used to work in a bakery and would take naps in my car during my lunch break and how much of a difference that made in how less tired i was for the second half of my shift and made it feel less harsh that i had to get up at 3 in the morning hours before the sun would rise
I remember one of those random internet facts was that it's praised to nap at work in Japan. (Honestly I've never heard of this outside that one fact I read.) It supposedly shows that you were working really hard. Yea that sounds cool and all but the flip side of that is the insane workplace culture in Japan. Japanese workers usually work overtime and on weekends.
I used to have pretty bad insomnia, but nowadays, I actually sleep very intuively from 10:30~11:00 pm to 7:30 and even if I have to get up (which is three days a week since I'm a university student and have very flexible times), I am usually up before my alarm. (My alarm is just a gentle reminder to stop playing Animal Crossing and start getting ready) For me personally, 7 hours is already sleep deprivation since I exercise a lot and just need quite a lot of sleep in general. I personally think that people have a very skewed perception of how much sleep is really needed ("4 hours if you want to be productive! 6 is already a luxury! " And all of that nonsense which you also mentioned). Of course you are not feeling well rested after just six hours, but society tells you that it should be enough...
Something that wearing a fitbit for a couple years has taught me is that I need 8 hours of sleep. I do not function well without that much and its a significant drop off. I can tell if I've gotten enough sleep at night with whether or not I wake up freezing cold (I wake up really really cold if I haven't gotten enough sleep). I'm a college student currently and people just don't get that some people need this much sleep, including professors and even my parents. I've been dealing with sleep deprivation for the last couple of weeks and it just sucks.
Yeah, society loves to put productivity ahead of health and wellbeing. Of course productivity is defined by how much money you can make your corporate overlords so yeah, it's great.
@@waffles3629 but quite paradoxically, sleep is the most essential part for productivity. When I was unable to sleep, I had to postpone exams that would have been no problem with a good night's rest and physical capabilities as well as attention to detail also go down rapidly...
@@annamargarethe8848 exactly. Especially for people like me who can't just chug coffee to get through the day if they didn't get enough sleep. Anything more than a little bit of caffeine will bring me a world of pain (dumb migraine).
I feel so much better if I can have a nap in the day around lunch time. In fact I now feel like I HAVE to nap to function properly and will have one almost every day. It’s nice to see a video discussing it openly and positively
As someone who lived in spain, did the siestas and, so, slept for 2 hours and worked till 8, i definetlly can say that it changed my life. From being always tired to being able to do much more. Now living in the netherlands again, i unfortuently, don't have that luxery anymore, so, i went back to sleeping shitty and waking up tired. So, maybe its not the, sleep till waking, but the strategic sleeps that are important in this day and age
It would have been interesting for this discussion to touch more on the role of daylight in affecting our sleeping patterns as well. I find for example that I rarely need my alarm when I have low, warm lighting in my room in the evening and sleep with the curtains open so I wake up naturally when the sun comes up. Obviously this doesn't work well in the summer when the sun comes up at about 4am but it's great in the winter!
Enjoyed the video :) Sleep has been a huge battle for me ever since high school but now I'm really emphasizing it. My doctor told me sleeping well is as important for my health as taking my medications.
I learnt that the sound of your alarm can really affect how well/easily you wake up! A more sharp/violent/loud noise (like the traditional alarms) can be really harmful because it shocks you awake. It might make you get up but soon you'll feel tired again! Meanwhile a gentler noise will help you wake up gradually and help you to stay awake for longer
16:46 - “I really didn’t think this is where the video would end up, but here we are.” I think this is a good illustration of the disparity in our work/life balance, because this is EXACTLY where I expected it to end up. Prior to the lockdown, loved ones called me an idealist for trying to have this conversation. Now, it seems a little more like common sense to them, too.
This is gonna sound weird, but I love my alarm, I got this 1971 flip clock with a radio and alarm function, and it plays the radio in the morning. And I just can’t hate that thing.
Sounds like this would be an ideal experiment for a housewife with kids who are in their teens. Any appointment before 2pm is going to need an alarm for me
This is too real. Society forces you to overwork yourself and, as a neurodivergent person with an ill-fitted sleep schedule, I cannot do that without a complete meltdown within days of doing so. If we didn't Live In A Society I would function perfectly well, I just need a more leisurely pace to do things, which I guess that makes me disabled in this day and age.
I set up a wake-up routine on my Google Nest mini, which works great for me. The fact that it's not just the same sound, over and over, every morning, but rather a voice that tells me the weather and such makes me pay attention to the information said, which, in turn, wakes me up. Of course, I must keep to a reasonably sensible sleep schedule. If I go to sleep at 4 am and have to get up at 6, there's no way I'm waking up. Other than that, I've rarely used a regular alarm clock since.
@@jasonmajere2165 I do wonder how many people would actually sleep 8 hours a night if we didn’t adhere to modern life. I’m also a night auditor and here were definitely night watch people as well as varying sleep patterns.
Spanish siesta. Night workers don't see the sun and can mess with sleep pattern and not getting vit d, nitric oxide, and enough melatonin production. How much we rely on the direct sun is crazy.
Switching my alarm sound to birds chirping and singing is one of the best decisions I've ever made in my life. Waking up doesn't feel abrupt due to some unnatural, unpleasant sound, and I have no "bad association" when I hear birds chirping outside my bedroom. Nothing but pleasant waking up for the past 5 years!
I spent years working a job where I had to be at work at 7am and I am a person who needs 9-10 hours of sleep to be okay, especially working a highly physical job. No matter how long I practiced going to bed at 9:30PM I was just never ready to go to sleep at that time and so I was chronically sleep deprived. For a few weeks my boss started scheduling me to work on Wednesday mornings, which was right after an event I helped run that ended at 11PM. I was only getting 5-6 hours of sleep on those nights. 5 hours of sleep for me is like a typical healthy person pulling an all-nighter. It was quickly obvious that I was a danger to myself trying to lift and move heavy boxes on no sleep and I asked to be moved off of that shift and never put on it again.
i have a wake light thing that slowly lights up in the morning to wake you up. it can also (but doesn’t have it) play a soothing song that slowly gets louder. i find it a pretty calming way to wake up every morning
I did the sleep however long I like for a while in my early twenties, WIth the difference that there was nothing I needed to be on time for. For me it turned into a 12-12 sleeping schedual. Obviously that does not work well with how society is structured these days. The reality is that while there are jobs where you can work/sleep any hour of the day, there are twice as many where that is just not an option. So I don't think there will ever be a great chance to what the sleeping schedule looks like for most people.
thanks to university i have been able to get up at 9am earliest during the week and my productivity and quality of life has gone up so insanely much like I no longer felt miserable in class nor am I tired all day again. I don't like naps, they don't help me, but just that small change of being able to go to sleep at 1am and waking up at 9am has changed so much. mainly bc I am just not able to sleep before 1am naturally
Best thing I did in my life. Use the smartwatch as alarm clock that gently vibrates in my wrist every morning without noise, without suffering, without having a sound that I start to really really hate!
I just realized this vid was posted today- this’s super interesting yo!! I’ve lately realized some of my problems with sleep are largely related to my alarm not going off & my stress around that, so it’s cool ya did this topic hehe Sheep are so cute,,
I have insomnia and sleep apnea so I have the sh*ttiest sleep you can imagine. But I am getting a tonsillectomy and adenoidectomy in 6 days so that’ll solve the apnea bit hopefully 🤞😅
My husband spent 8 years working with kind of whatever schedule he wanted, and he became a consistent bimodal sleeper. He slept partly at night and partly during the day, and his sleep during the day was his best sleep, he'd literally not move, no snoring, just sleep like the dead from like 1pm-4pm
My favourite bit was marvelling at the detail the camera was picking up on Taha's denim jacket while his face was out of focus. Really nice jacket, for real :) The rest of the video was great too
I think once as kid my optimal sleeping schedule was from 10 PM to 6 AM but that degraded into from 2 AM to 11 AM and i can't get enough sleep. I should start napping.
My sleep is all over the place at the moment but typically I enjoy sleeping from about 11-8:30. If I don't sleep for at least 7.5 hours, I usually don't function well. I function best with about 8.5-9.5 hours. Usually if I sleep a lot one night, I sleep a little less the next. So my sleep isn't very consistent, but I'm well aware of my patterns. I don't usually use an alarm clock unless I have to wake up early for something. I also sleep better if I'm physically active during the day too.
I use Lo-Fi to wake me up. It's something that I adopted when I had roommates who slept in the same room and it's really beneficial. Lo-Fi is really soothing so it won't disturb your roommates but it's also soothing to you. I never wake up pissed
Constructive Criticism: much of the video was out of focus, including the ad read. Great content and really well structured, I love what you guys are doing with this channel!
Working from home I frequently enjoy a lunchtime nap with my dogs and it’s great. Even if I don’t sleep it’s so relaxing to read surrounded by snoring dogs
This channel never fails to find new ways to reveal that we live in a society
And it’s surprising everytime LOL
Sometimes you need a reminder.
Whose society?
@@loicrutabana1884 Our society
@@loicrutabana1884 the one we live in.
Some of the better places I've worked, there were a "quiet rooms" where you can take a nap, breastfeed your kid, or just enjoy a quiet moment alone if you're having a hectic day. Also, it was company policy to only schedule meetings during "core business hours" which were 9am to 3pm. This allowed parents to drop off their kids at school and still get to work without missing any important meetings. Or maybe you're just a late-riser or have a lengthy commute. They had cafeterias with 4-star catering, on-site day care for kids too young for school, and laundry services. Companies can and will accommodate workers when they are properly incentivized, either by law, market forces, or labor unions.
ok this is amazing, please companies make it become the norm so people can work productively
Quiet rooms are nice. Had one in the last place I worked and wish there was more in universities too for students.
:O yooo this is awesome! Where do you live? 👀 asking for a friend.
what kind of company was it?
I don’t think companies realise that somebody working at 50% efficiency and severe lack of motivation and sleep for 9 hours is worse than somebody working for maybe 5 or 6 hours at close to 100% efficiency with the capacity to complete tasks to their full potential. You’re losing more money by treating us like shit than you would if you actually helped us do our jobs to the best of our ability
I love this channel
At the start: "This will be fine!"
Narrator: "It was not, in fact, fine"
[IASAP title card]
_"The Gang is Not Fine"_
It always goes like that and i love it
Looking back at the chapter titles, I'll be clear that I do not read the chapter titles.
It's a storytelling device that they use fairly often, though.
The dog snoring through all of Matthew's parts was an entire mood
So that was the sound i was wondering about
Ah! That's what it is
Oh, THANK YOU. I was about to be driven crazy if no one else pointed out that sound.
That snoring is contagious. It's making me sleepy
It took me too long to figure out that it wasn't me breathing!
as a Spaniard I can only emphasize how great and important "la siesta" is. our working hours allow us to sleep for an hour or so at around 4pm. it's really refreshing and a good way to rest during the day
For people who need to travel a bit longer to work (at least half an hour), do they go home to nap, or they nap at work? If so, are there dedicated places in workplaces for siestas?
@@hetsmiecht1029 no napping for them. there's no dedicated place at work for siestas, so usually that off-time sucks. you can't go home to sleep or do anything productive because there's not much time left with all the travelling, and you usually can't stay in work/school.
in high school I had physical education anywhere between 30 minutes and 2 hours after the school day ended (depending of the year), where I couldn't go home to have a siesta (I did anyways, and slept through many classes) but I also couldn't stay in school unless something bad had happened, so having that time off sucked for me.
Man, you are so lucky. Where I’m from, taking a nap means ‘slowing down’ and ‘falling behind’ and if a student naps during the day, people believe that he/she is a hopeless case and a lazy person. And this is just junior high!
French restaurants do this too at around 2-3pm- there is no such thing as a late lunch out in some towns and villages in France, because they’re closed so everyone can take a nap. The only alternative for someone in the us is try to nap in their car with an eyemask on their 30 minute lunch break *instead* of eating. So depending on your metabolism may be a good idea or may be downright impossible.
Absolutely. As a Spaniard too, most Spanish people have one or two naps per day. It’s really refreshing and most people go to sleep between 11-12pm and have to wake up really early to get to work or school. So taking naps during 5e day is totally normal in Spain!
The secret is to own a cat, train them to have breakfast at a certain time, and then they'll just wake you up.
I do still set an alarm clock, but I rarely really wind up needing it
But cats don’t know about the daylight savings 👉🏽
@@KlearlyIMme eventually, they learn
I can confirm this, cat wakes me up 5 am everyday. Naps with me after lunch and demands me to stop working at 6pm.
@@nflores328 _like a living alarm clock :0_
Wow :00000
It works great! I got my cat from a school mate, who didn't have enough space anymore and the cat was used to getting up with her previous owner at 5:30. Problem was, I was getting up at 6:30 and it took the cat like half a year to adjust, not a fun time.
Only long after I noticed something: The cat was able to tell weekdays from weekends, she only woke me up 5 days a week.
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Hello :)
oh hey jamie, love ya
I Was just thinking about a motto or some catchphrase to find them easier!
I first saw a video of them do a wine review (sorta kinda) and went down a rabbit hole searching for videos related to wine, squarespace, and coding because the main girl spoke of her coding experience in a few other videos.
Luckily for me I was able to find them in my recommended a bit later.
Didnt think id see you here but hi :)
Yeah knowing your own sleep schedule is key. Eight hours is NOT enough for me, and I sleep better if I go to bed at midnight and wake up at 9am than going to bed at 10pm and waking up at 7am. My body HATES waking up before 9, and yet I do it everyday to get to work. And I barely recover on the weekends when I *am* able to sleep in, assuming I get a good night's sleep at all (because my body sometimes just doesn't cooperate, and then I'm fucked the next work week and even MORE exhausted leading up to the weekend after... which EASILY spirals into burnout).
Society's current sleep culture doesn't account for disability or illness either. You need more sleep to recover, but you're expected to keep grinding at the same pace as someone perfectly fit and well. It's obscene and I hate it.
It sucks how noone cares about the actual humans. You just have to produce every day all the time like a machine
I've specifically gone into my field of work for this reason. I do *not* get up before 9am so I don't come into work until 11-12 most days.
YES I HATE HOW RIGID MY SCHOOL SCHEDULE IS!! I like sleeping from midnight or 1 to about 8 or 9 but I need to leave my house at 8 and I can't change my schedule on the weekend or else I'll be tired on monday
@@theevauwu7853 lucky i have to leave at 10 to 7
For me it turned out to be actually helpful to not sleep in on the weekends. I try to go to bed at the same time and wake up at the same time (using an alarm clock, of course) every single day. That way I reduced the problems I had with falling asleep and I also feel less fucked up in the morning.
I'm really glad that more people are talking about "sleep culture" and how society and our obligation to exist in it polices our sleep habits.
This culture doesn't even consider those with sleep disorders such as insomnia, narcolepsy, or any other type of sleep disorder that makes one's sleep schedule not fit within capitalism.
We've been led to believe that having a non-conventional sleep schedule is a moral failing or a disorder that needs to be fixed. I wish that we can go to sleep when we feel tired, wake up when we feel awake, and conform our daily schedule around our sleep instead of conforming our sleep to our daily schedule.
I've been doing Ph.D. research for the last four years. In this time I rarely had appointments (even rarer before noon) and, even before the pandemic, I could easily work from home whenever I wanted (I'm doing a Ph.D. in mathematics). This means, for the last four years, I've been pretty much freed from all those societal obligations.
And what did I learn about my sleep schedule in all this time? At least for me, it's not just society and capitalism and sleep culture. For me it's the sheer concept of a day consisting of 24 hours.
If I sleep as long as my body demands, I'll sleep for 10+ hours. This means I'd have to become sleepy again after about 14 hours of being awake. But I'm not. I can easily go for 18 to 20 hours without feeling the urge to search my cushions. So I'd need the day to consist of about 30 hours (how long is a day on Mars?).
On the other hand this means that, in order to deal with a 24 hour day, I actually need to undersleep consistently. That's why I settled on using an alarm clock to get up about the same time every day (weekends included), even though I didn't have to.
Yeah I have insomnia and I can never sleep and I’ve tried everything apart from medication.
@@lonestarr1490 I did this cause of the pandemic. Slept when I was tired, woke up when I woke up. It was so nice not fighting to get to every morning. I ended up averaging about 26 hours. And I feel so much more rested, despite only getting a little more sleep per 24 hour average.
While I agree with your idea about sleeping favoring the morning people, and not considering those with sleep disorders, and how nice it would be to just sleep when you’re tired. I don’t know that it’s always fair to blame everything on one aspect, which often tends to be capitalism.
Sadly, I doubt that most people’s work ethic fits with the agricultural lifestyle that would perhaps “unbind” us from the capitalistic sleep schedule. Farming, growing your crops, creating or gathering something to trade in exchange for other resources, etc is hard work, that I’m not sure I could do. It’s either an agrarian life or something else, but I don’t think there’s a perfect system for work/sleep balance. Even a socialist or tyrannical system would demand some people create jobs/wealth, distribute wealth (goods, resources, money, etc), work, cook, homemake, etc. I think it’s more influenced by the individual, the way their society is structured, perhaps family and other sort of supports, their natural circadian rhythm, their values, and how they would want to choose to live their lifestyle.
If anything, entrepreneurship under capitalism, the ability to have flexible work schedules, and technology that can give people more freedom. It’s certain types of service jobs, or jobs that require business type hours, that lead to some inflexibility, but all these things allowed different jobs to be done from home, allowed jobs we never thought of before like being a contact creator, editing from your home, doing computer things from your home, owning your own business, etc. Not saying that it’s easy, just that there’s more options now than only factory jobs or farming.
@@warholcow exactly, honestly I don't know why people blame capitalism for everything, like if life was that simple :|
When I had a break from school and was off work for about a week, I didn't set an alarm clock and let myself sleep without interruption. I consistently got 10-11 hours of sleep every night and never felt so rested.
the main issue with this is that altho it feels really nice to be rested and I would love sleep every day for 10-11 hours, it leaves little to no time for other activities if you also have 8-9h work day.
@@riddixdan5572 It could be argued the problem is work.
@@ignisxiii6705 is that to say that there should be no work at all?
@@N8JUMPER If possible, yes. The economy can sustain everyone, if only the 0.1% didn't hoard wealth like that. Wasn't that the point?
@@N8JUMPER also note that work and labor are not the same
Them talking about sleep as a pet snores in the background is perfect.
I kept pausing and glancing over at my sleeping dog trying to confirm where the snoring was coming from.
Aww I can't hear it because deaf, so thanks for sharing the detail, so cute!
@@NahnomachinesSon it would be incredibly rude and unlikely to record a video with a sleeping person in the room lol
No legit there's a noise
"To be honest, I really didn't think this is where the video would end up." - every AiP experiment ever
honestly, i have adhd, and alarms on my phone are the only thing that makes me remember certain things, so i love them. they're very useful if you don't have a sense of time when you're awake either
Samee. Except I've gotten to the point of autodismissing :/
@@juliaf_ I got an alarm app that you can set little tasks you have to do to turn off the alarm. There's preset options, you can decide which to use. It cut my "dismiss without thinking about it" rate to about 10%.
I also love to use Siri reminders so if I remember something, I’ll ask her to remind me to do that thing tomorrow at 10am for example.
Correct
@@juliaf_ set funny reminders on them instead! I have one at 4:00pm that used to be when I had my meds, but when the timing and dosage was changed, I just kinda kept it around. All my daytime alarms are set to this nice little jazz riff, and the alarm name for that one has been changed from "dřugs,?" to "You're [age] you dumb ***" since I kept saying the wrong one. I rarely miss it now, lmao.
I think the best way to see the natural sleep cycle is to go camping for a week, when you have no outside obligations, no internet to distract you, and having a day full of walking and activities, it's amazing how easily you fall asleep at sundown ~8pm and wake up at sunrise 5-6am. I usually go to sleep at midnight and wake up around 9-10am, and it only takes a day or two of camping to reset that.
I was camping for 9 days this summer and did not have this experience 😅 still loved going to sleep late and wake up late (sun had to wake me with most ridiculous heat in my tent before my body even decided to do any being awake stuff)
@@tbbivi thats probably just your schedule then
Also just like there's a difference between natural sleep and sleep under industrial capitalism, there's also a difference between sleep in agrarian societies and natural sleep. Plenty of people would have a fire going for warmth in winter, or other tasks that couldn't run for too long without tending. When people talk about biphasic sleep, they forget that people weren't getting up in the middle of the night for fun. And, just because we can get up halfway through without being sleep deprived doesn't mean waking up for a while before going back to sleep is our bodies preferred sleep schedule.
That was exactly my experience during my first multi-day hike. Best sleep I've ever had. Can recommend.
Sundown here is at 11pm, and sunrise is at 4-5am
The new sigma grindset will now include a 30-minute afternoon nap + snack/coffee/tea break.
can’t have naps since it takes me 2 hours to get to sleep.
I did a lunch nap and got bitched at by a out of state boss.
@@jasonmajere2165 lol why
Power naps can actually make you more productive then stuffing your face with food
@@yusurkassem4174 boomer bosses that think you should power through everything. Not like I was taking a siesta(with all the studies on that),wish I could. Office manager would tattletale about everything(she had no control over service tech)and boss was an asshat.
@Vali you're just jealous you're not gigachad
I think the trick is to know what's ok to miss and what's not. Risk sleeping in when you can, but if you NEED to get up by a certain time, set an alarm anyways at a time where you'd be in a bit of a rush. if you wake up early, no biggie, and you won't be stressed about missing work. And going to bed extra early as a habit helps too.
Yeah, i try to give my self no alarm days often it's easier if you don't have class or work in the morning at the every day, aldo you can tray to go to sleep early to try and give you time to be sure you'll be on time.
I have also found that waking up with the sun is much easier and I'm less grumpy that with an alarm clock so if i have to wake up between 8-9 i will try to go to sleep by midnight and then just make sure my curtains are open and the sun will be able to come in. Waking up in a good mood does make yiu fell well rested.
Lastly I am Spanish so if I don't have many appointments and or i can reschedule siestas are always allowed.
I learned in highschool that I value more myself than may work/homework so i never drink coffee and if i have to decide between them i will choose me and go to sleep. I'm useless when i need to sleep anyways.
My problem is going to bed extra early doesn't work, because I have insomnia
@@lilac.mascara so do I, But if you start just going to bed sooner, eventually you’ll get used to it and if you don’t sleep well, you’ll sleep better the next night. Eventually your body will know when it’s bedtime, still might take an hour or two but it’s better than falling asleep at 1-2am.
@@ImTHECarlos98 oh damn I fall asleep at 4 am. I go to bed at around like 9 or 10pm.
Gotta love how often a discussion on health goes "it would be easy to fix, but capitalism."
All of the world's problems, really
@@MariaNicolae Yeah lol if I’ve ever seen an overgeneralisation then this is it
@@MariaNicolae yea
This
It wouldn't be easy. While it is related to capitalism, it's way more about the industrial revolution, which was a novelty at the time and drastically changed the world. And while yes, in some ways for the worse, in some ways for the better too. The society before that was the agricultural one, where people started having large farms and living in large settlements. Well, in agrarian societies there were other problems, horrible health conditions (plagues), and also it was when the patriarchy started in the first place (as well as other large-scale inequalities). In the modern world, we have a way more egalitarian society then before, but prior to the Agricultural Revolution, we had an absolutely egalitarian society, without the patriarchy at all. It was the hunter gathering years. And this era wasn't perfect either, it didn't have modern technology so many people died very young. So this sort of analysis of saying it's only because of capitalism seems very simplistic when our society is complex and was never perfect.
Sabrina: I'm gonna torture this AI
Melissa: I'm gonna torture myself... to improve my life
Taha: Believe it or not, we live in a society
I really like AIP
This, this just sums then up so nicely
Intelligence Artificial?
@@wolfiegames1572 Thx, i fixed the typo
Also as an autistic person with a special interest in sleep I'm so hype seeing people starting to take an interest in/ realising the importance of sleep!
damn, as an autistic/adhd person to whome sleep is the bane of my existence, having it as a special interest sounds pretty fun! Do you find that because of that interest you have a healthier sleep pattern, then? bc i know not all autistic people are insomniacs. Or do you struggle with sleep too like many of us, but you just understand the science of it better?
Ali!!! By the way, I live for the “Answer In Progress” video bar chapters. I find myself hovering over the bar to see what they all read.
They're all in the description if you want to see them easier...
Agreed... Love chapters in almost everything... Especially podcasts and video essays
Thank you! @@CalebTerryRED
"what they all read"? You mean like "what they all said"?
This is actually so important on a structural and accessible level. I've accidentally lived this experiment because I've been unemployed since March 2020. I've stopped booking any appointments or social stuff before noon because I'm naturally a night owl-i find it hard to fall asleep before 1 or 2am even when I have no caffeine for a week. By following my body's natural sleep cycle, I've found I actually only need 7 hours to feel rested versus the 8-9 hours I needed when I was forcing myself into earlier wake up times.
I also found pre-pandemic that the earlier I wake up, the worse my chronic pain and chronic nausea are. When I did an internship that started at 10am I had no problems. Trying to go to classes or other jobs earlier took a huge toll on my body.
It's an even bigger problem in high schools where the majority of students fall into a different sleep pattern than adults, but the schedule is based around parents' and teachers' needs
wait a minute, you mean to tell me:
"Dr Dr, I have pain when I wake up in the morning"
"wake up in the afternoon then. that will be $50000"
actually works?
literally had the exact same experience. as a rule unless the appointment is otherwise impossible to get nothing before noon. no regular obligations before noon. I can do with much less sleep when I follow my body clock too. 3 am is my time and that’s just how it is!
Same
from what I've read, it's not even set around teachers' time.
teachers have a slightly better time and are happier and healthier when school starts later(a minor increase, but an increase).
there's basically no reason for high school to not start later...
So I'm 30, and for years I've tried to avoid using an alarm to wake up.
What I've learned is that your body will wake itself up subconsciously when it feels the need to. If you worry that you need to be up at a certain time, until you've grown accustomed to it, you will continue wake up throughout the night being worried. It won't be until you have overslept a few times that you'll naturally get into a rhythm of being able to wake up without an alarm at a specific time. You also have to try and let the things that worry you just leave your mind when you're going to sleep as well, especially if you know there's nothing you need to do the next day, otherwise you could allow a work schedule that doesn't apply for the next day to subjugate your sleep schedule on your days off.
After years of not really sleeping with alarms, I can't sleep with alarms. Alarms don't work to wake me up anymore, I just sleep right through them. I know that if I go to sleep around 12:00 a.m., I'll wake up around 7:00 or 8:00 a.m.. If I go to sleep around 4:00 a.m., I'll wake up pretty consistently around 12:00 p.m.
A lot of what causes poor sleep is stress and worry. If you're worried that you're going to miss something, you will sleep a lot worse, Even if you stay asleep for a full 7 to 8 hours.
It really is a mind over matter thing. The idea of a structured schedule can be both a blessing and a curse. When you've adjusted for it, that schedule can make things very easy. But at the same time that schedule can introduce more worry and stress that can actually affect how well you sleep.
This is exactly it. I wake up naturally when I need to, but I have an alarm set to the latest time I should be out of bed that I end up dismissing before it even rings 99% of the time.
Yes i always wake up in the night for no reason which is weird since i dont have issues otherwise
Not sure if it's a good thing or not, but I always wake up just before the alarm rings every time I use it.
Unless I really needed the sleep and then the alarm will be useless.
I treat oversleeping as a signal that my sleep schedule isn't good.
funny thing about going sleep late and waking up late. for me if I go sleep at 22:00, I wake up at ~9:00, but if I go to sleep at 4 in the morning, I still wake up at ~9:00. and the level of how rested I am depends on how much I have been getting sleep before that. So in the end, if I have been constantly getting 8 hours of sleep for the past 3-4 days, I can easily go through a day by getting just 4 hours of sleep that night.
Or you just sleep and sleep because your body doesn't seem to have a clue what circadian rhythm is. At least that's how it is for me.
I had pretty terrible sleep habits due to having depression most of my life, but then I got one of those alarm clocks that lights up gradually before the alarm goes off and it changed my life. It helped me actually wake up on time for important things like classes, job interviews etc. Wouldnt say my natural sleep schedule is perfectly suited to societal expectation but it's far harder to sleep though the alarm if there's a bright light in my face
How about Japan? They nap everywhere all the time, on the bus, the train, on public benches and even on the workplace itself. It is not frowned upon but seen as "wow, this person worked so hard, he's now completely tired!". I guess this helps a lot in sleeping habits. (while being aware that Japan has an insane work-life-balance, work is completely and fully integrated in your free time as well and they have incredibly few days off)
Wish they had that ideal in USA. I got bitched at for a nap on lunch break.
Isn't it because most don't get enough sleep at night? Hard to stay awake all the time if you work from 8am-7pm and then have to take the bus home
Sorry to break it to you, but this is just a stereotype.
Yeah people nap in trains or during lunch breaks but that is just because they don’t get enough sleep during the night (many companies make you work overtime every day so 6 hours or less sleep is pretty normal).
Sleeping on your job is not a good thing in Japan either; it just sometimes happens because it’s very hard to fire somebody lol. But you will never be promoted let alone praised for it.
@@MarleenEliza Also it's not like people don't do that in other countries... If you haven't seen someone asleep on public transit then you probably don't ride it often enough lol
Just wanted to jump in an add: if blaring alarms aren't your thing, try birdsong. It triggers a part of your brain that says, "oh hey, the suns up, lets get movin," and it's considerably less terrifying than the usual alarm.
Those work in the winter, but in the summer you'll be woken up by the real birdsongs at like 5am in the morning.
My bedroom has an eastern window. I have a really excellent body clock, but I still have to use an alarm in case the morning is cloudy.
Nothing is more sleep inducing than a math proof, so It was always easy for me to sleep in college. The best part was whenever I solved the proof while sleeping.
When I had to wake up at 5:30 for work, I found the best time to go to bed was 10:30. If I couldn't fall asleep, I learned to stop worrying because my body was still resting even if I wasn't sleeping.
Math is what keeps me up at night
your body might be resting but your mind is still working. that's usually the main issue for me since 99% of my work is just thinking
Sleep is literally the number one piece of advice I give anyone who ever vaguely seems like they might take my advice 😂 it’s so wildly undervalued and no one my age (Gen Z and Millennials) seems to really grasp how much it affects _literally everything else_ in our lives!
In my experience, sufficient sleep gets me to do more on a daily basis. That's why I stop going out so late or going to bed late. Sleep is life
I can't do anything at all when I am tired.
I am like a literal zombie, and then I curse myself because I waste my day. It's terrible for me and for the others, since I am not in a good mood, no matter how much caffeine I consume.
Yup
And yet, unfortunately
Yakko:
Early to rise and early to bed/Makes a man healthy, but socially dead.
Ngl This guy’s really good at vlogging
Taha is a legend
Being originally from Spain it's funny to see this after decades of people asking me if I nap during the day with a judgemental tone.
I don't, I'm subject to the same societal norms as everybody, but I think is interesting how it's been associated with laziness yet people who manage to do so actually are more aware and perform better.
Do we? I see siesta as a waste of time.
@@fannishfanning160 without it im less productive, waste of time would be looking at the pc tired without doing nothing
@@fannishfanning160 sleep feels like a waste of time only if you already are sleep deprived, outside of vacations you'd usually not get actually enough for full awareness but that 50-80% would be your norm. For example during vacations or weekends people who sleep the actual amount needed complete more projects and have more effective progress.
Personally I'm usually not sleeping enough but when I do, I feel it. If you find a healthy routine you can sometimes fit the usual 1h task in 30m.
@@fannishfanning160 Yeah and there are clowns who see all sleep like that?
this made me realize I've been living that experiment the whole time because my brain will just "shut off" the ability to hear my alarm sometimes and I have ADHD sleep issues and time blindness . . . and the results are basically this vlog - not being able to sleep bc I'm worried about not being able to wake up, missing the alarm or waking up naturally but in a panic - yipes. Y'all don't live like this already?
I do disagree about the "industrial revolution caused the night's sleep" thing. Even in the Ancient world (Rome in specific) it was 'up at dawn, in home by dark' just because there weren't street lights. They had naps far more often than we do today, but they definitely had to get all their work done before dusk.
Yes but they probably had Biphasal sleep, and did household chores in the gap, like people naturally do.
@@ScutoidStudios from my cursory research, they weren't biphasic at night (and doing chores in the night would have cost a lot of money for lighting), but were probably somewhat biphasic with a nap near the middle of the day (siesta-like).
people are fucken worn out, that's the message
@@ladle9670 Cool! I was guessing because that's how a lot of people used to be (anecdotal)
A nap is so important. Wether you're working or not.
Focusing on my sleep this year has made me more productive and energized than I’ve ever been
“We could be in danger of our work lives spilling out into our whole lives” this man just discovered homework
The 8 hour work/school day has me always tired to the point of barely functioning. It is difficult to learn or be productive living in today's society, but membership isn't really very optional.
So, thank you for making a video about this, more people need to become more concious about how sleep works so that maybe we'll eventually get to live in a society that isn't torture.
Regards,
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12:00 "it's about drive, it's about power, we stay hungry, we devour"
I never understood the bragging about not getting sleep. Since High school, I have always put sleep above most things even if it meant a small reduction in the quality of my school work. I kept prioritizing sleep through undergrad and grad school and like I was not top of the class, but I was a good student. I think this means I'm a little more in tune with how much sleep my body needs and what time of day I work best (I am a morning person by far). Also it's funny because I am a morning person and I don't drink coffee which always makes people look at me sideways when I have to get up early to be on a job site, but I am relatively okay and not very groggy. Sleep is key. and I'm glad it's becoming more of a discussion because I feel like I have it relatively easy because my sleep habits line up with general work hours and things like that. I know people who are total night owls and have had so many issues through school and work because of it, but I think they have been doing better with that work from home pandemic life. It's all super interesting!
(I also don't use an alarm clock unless I have to get up uncharacteristically early and even then my body eventually adjusts to the new wake up time if I have to do it for a week or two in a row.)
Excatly that is true. In Highschool (in Germany) I went to bed at like 9 PM on the weekdays. How I remember I was one of the only ones who was not tired in the first class of the day starting at 08:00 AM. Now in university it is kinda different but I use a light alarm clock and my hue lamps which are awesome. Sleep is just great
Yeah. Like bragging about how you're chronically sleep deprived and have to mainline caffeine to function is so common. And super frustrating. Especially cause I can't really have caffeine, well not unless I want a world of pain to bring me to me knees. So it's sleep or be tired, there is no other option.
It's like bragging about not eating enough. Next time someone does this, tell them to get better Time Management.
Hot tip for sleepy service employees who take the bus and need to set limits: At your current/next job, make your starting hours start when the buses get convenient, not the first hour they're available. Stick to it and make a fuss the moment that boundary is crossed, make them know how tired you are. As a barista this hasn't acquired me any naps, but I start no sooner than 9am, meaning I get up at 7:30 at the earliest. An hour to be human, thirty minutes for the bus that now arrives every 15min instead of 20 to 30min on weekdays
I hated alarms. I still dont like them, but waking up to a quiet calming melody getting progressively louder rather than a loud blaring siren helped immensely
I am lucky not to need an alarm clock most of the time, but I realized that each time I actually need to use one I almost always wake up before it rings (less than an hour before).
Because nothing is worse than having your sleep cycle interrupted, and that thought really stresses me out.
I often wake up like 5 minutes before the alarm goes off.
But of course I'll take that 5 minutes and go back to sleep 💤
Pethaps you should try a silent alarm, like a sunrise alarm or a smart watch / fitness tracker that vibrates.
Answer in Progress chapter titles are SO good oh my god.
I started napping mid-day during the pandemic - I work from home in a job that allows for that sort of flexibility - and I was constantly stuck between 'this feels like exactly what my body and brain needs' and 'this is weird and wrong and I shouldn't be doing it'. The pressure to fit the norm is heavy, especially for neurodiverse folks trying to fit in with neurotypical coworkers.
I have anxiety and there is nothing more crucial to my well being than good sleep. I know it can be annoying sometimes, but if you can, prioritise sleep as highly as possible.
I think this experiment would’ve been more suitable if you took a week off of work and not make any obligatory appointments. So that you’re not worried about waking at a certain time or that you’d miss something if you didn’t. I think doing it when you’re not scheduled to go somewhere will prove that our sleep has become ndustrialized
Taha has been on fire with their episodes lately - every one they get more personable and natural on camera!
When I was working in Vietnam, everyone would take out their sleeping mats and take a nap from 12-1pm. My friends in the UK were so shocked about that. I wish that was more of a thing.
The lack of focus on taha's face after the ad is 100% worth the crisp focus on the denim jacket 🧥 10/10 🧥
This is a very interesting experiment. Here is my personal experience: I love and hate alarm clocks. They are useful for being on time and not missing important and/or fun things. They are hated because you do not want to leave your sleep or leave your dream. Now on days where I had no plans (like when I am on vacation or during the quarantine), I am not missing anything. I had all my alarms off and slept REALLY well. I lost weight and went into a really healthy BMI. I was feeling great. Sadly, quarantine ended/vacations ended and it's back to social obligation/work obligation. Sleep went back to being industrial and weight began to gain with the stress.
Love how everything bad is cause of capitalism, makes me feel less crazy in knowing that's something is wrong in our society and it's just not me "not working hard enough"
Online school has kinda been a sleep experiment in itself
I’ve been going to sleep between 2:30 and 4:00am and waking up at around 2:00pm,
It definitely makes me curious as to what other people’s natural sleep patterns are
I'd say an alarm clock is basically an insurance against oversleeping. That insurance is why you're sleeping better, as you don't have that pressure of waking up in time naturally in the back of your head all the time.
Having said that, I'm in a 9-5 office job for years now, and my body has gotten used to that. Even during weekends or holidays, my sleep schedule isn't too dissimilar to what it is on workdays.
i have a 6-2 factory (support) job, and the same thing happens. i used to wake up between 430 and 500 every morning without an alarm clock no matter what (well, daylight stupid time would mess with it a little for a couple weeks a year). i would set the alarm just in case, but woke up before it actually went off.
I usually wake up 5-10 minutes before the alarm goes off; but if I don't set the alarm, I feel uneasy and stressed out.
this video was really interesting and makes me think about when i used to work in a bakery and would take naps in my car during my lunch break and how much of a difference that made in how less tired i was for the second half of my shift and made it feel less harsh that i had to get up at 3 in the morning hours before the sun would rise
we can all dream that we get enough sleep
I remember one of those random internet facts was that it's praised to nap at work in Japan. (Honestly I've never heard of this outside that one fact I read.) It supposedly shows that you were working really hard. Yea that sounds cool and all but the flip side of that is the insane workplace culture in Japan. Japanese workers usually work overtime and on weekends.
I used to have pretty bad insomnia, but nowadays, I actually sleep very intuively from 10:30~11:00 pm to 7:30 and even if I have to get up (which is three days a week since I'm a university student and have very flexible times), I am usually up before my alarm. (My alarm is just a gentle reminder to stop playing Animal Crossing and start getting ready)
For me personally, 7 hours is already sleep deprivation since I exercise a lot and just need quite a lot of sleep in general. I personally think that people have a very skewed perception of how much sleep is really needed ("4 hours if you want to be productive! 6 is already a luxury! " And all of that nonsense which you also mentioned). Of course you are not feeling well rested after just six hours, but society tells you that it should be enough...
omg i didnt know that exercising often can affect your sleep. hmm that explains a lot lol
Something that wearing a fitbit for a couple years has taught me is that I need 8 hours of sleep. I do not function well without that much and its a significant drop off. I can tell if I've gotten enough sleep at night with whether or not I wake up freezing cold (I wake up really really cold if I haven't gotten enough sleep). I'm a college student currently and people just don't get that some people need this much sleep, including professors and even my parents. I've been dealing with sleep deprivation for the last couple of weeks and it just sucks.
Yeah, society loves to put productivity ahead of health and wellbeing. Of course productivity is defined by how much money you can make your corporate overlords so yeah, it's great.
@@waffles3629 but quite paradoxically, sleep is the most essential part for productivity. When I was unable to sleep, I had to postpone exams that would have been no problem with a good night's rest and physical capabilities as well as attention to detail also go down rapidly...
@@annamargarethe8848 exactly. Especially for people like me who can't just chug coffee to get through the day if they didn't get enough sleep. Anything more than a little bit of caffeine will bring me a world of pain (dumb migraine).
I feel so much better if I can have a nap in the day around lunch time. In fact I now feel like I HAVE to nap to function properly and will have one almost every day. It’s nice to see a video discussing it openly and positively
As someone who lived in spain, did the siestas and, so, slept for 2 hours and worked till 8, i definetlly can say that it changed my life. From being always tired to being able to do much more. Now living in the netherlands again, i unfortuently, don't have that luxery anymore, so, i went back to sleeping shitty and waking up tired. So, maybe its not the, sleep till waking, but the strategic sleeps that are important in this day and age
It would have been interesting for this discussion to touch more on the role of daylight in affecting our sleeping patterns as well. I find for example that I rarely need my alarm when I have low, warm lighting in my room in the evening and sleep with the curtains open so I wake up naturally when the sun comes up. Obviously this doesn't work well in the summer when the sun comes up at about 4am but it's great in the winter!
A survey by Tom Scott once determined that sleep is the best thing. I guess this settles it.
Enjoyed the video :) Sleep has been a huge battle for me ever since high school but now I'm really emphasizing it. My doctor told me sleeping well is as important for my health as taking my medications.
I learnt that the sound of your alarm can really affect how well/easily you wake up!
A more sharp/violent/loud noise (like the traditional alarms) can be really harmful because it shocks you awake. It might make you get up but soon you'll feel tired again!
Meanwhile a gentler noise will help you wake up gradually and help you to stay awake for longer
16:46 - “I really didn’t think this is where the video would end up, but here we are.” I think this is a good illustration of the disparity in our work/life balance, because this is EXACTLY where I expected it to end up. Prior to the lockdown, loved ones called me an idealist for trying to have this conversation. Now, it seems a little more like common sense to them, too.
I wish I could hibernate. Or at least be able to sleep when I'm tired and lying in bed trying to get to sleep
love the little Bo Burnham crop at 16:36
This is gonna sound weird, but I love my alarm, I got this 1971 flip clock with a radio and alarm function, and it plays the radio in the morning. And I just can’t hate that thing.
They way my soul left my body when y'all played the alarm sound :,)
Sounds like this would be an ideal experiment for a housewife with kids who are in their teens.
Any appointment before 2pm is going to need an alarm for me
I got rid of my alarm clock several years ago, I’ve gotten very good at waking myself up naturally when I need to get up early
My father has never used a alarm in his life, yet he never wakes up too late for absolutely nothing as well. I envy him
Resting, sleeping and enjoying the company of family and friends are the real luxuries of life. No one dies wishing they had worked more.
Why do we never get enough sleep? Well, it's the capitalism, isnt it?
Yes
Nailed it
Yup
honestly I'm living for the chapter titles aka timestamp headings in these vids
This is too real. Society forces you to overwork yourself and, as a neurodivergent person with an ill-fitted sleep schedule, I cannot do that without a complete meltdown within days of doing so. If we didn't Live In A Society I would function perfectly well, I just need a more leisurely pace to do things, which I guess that makes me disabled in this day and age.
I set up a wake-up routine on my Google Nest mini, which works great for me. The fact that it's not just the same sound, over and over, every morning, but rather a voice that tells me the weather and such makes me pay attention to the information said, which, in turn, wakes me up. Of course, I must keep to a reasonably sensible sleep schedule. If I go to sleep at 4 am and have to get up at 6, there's no way I'm waking up. Other than that, I've rarely used a regular alarm clock since.
I use “a head full of dreams” as my alarm because I hated being startled awake.
I also sleep 4 hours at a time.
Better man than me, I put Skrillex drops as my alarm sounds because anything that doesn't wake me up annoyed and angry I'll sleep through
Ancient times did 4 hrs sleep pattern. The Odyssey mentions ‘first sleep’ they would sleep 4 hrs be up couple hrs and sleep another 4 hrs.
@@jasonmajere2165 I do wonder how many people would actually sleep 8 hours a night if we didn’t adhere to modern life. I’m also a night auditor and here were definitely night watch people as well as varying sleep patterns.
Spanish siesta. Night workers don't see the sun and can mess with sleep pattern and not getting vit d, nitric oxide, and enough melatonin production. How much we rely on the direct sun is crazy.
Switching my alarm sound to birds chirping and singing is one of the best decisions I've ever made in my life. Waking up doesn't feel abrupt due to some unnatural, unpleasant sound, and I have no "bad association" when I hear birds chirping outside my bedroom. Nothing but pleasant waking up for the past 5 years!
15:33 that’s another one for the “we live in a society” jar
I spent years working a job where I had to be at work at 7am and I am a person who needs 9-10 hours of sleep to be okay, especially working a highly physical job. No matter how long I practiced going to bed at 9:30PM I was just never ready to go to sleep at that time and so I was chronically sleep deprived. For a few weeks my boss started scheduling me to work on Wednesday mornings, which was right after an event I helped run that ended at 11PM. I was only getting 5-6 hours of sleep on those nights. 5 hours of sleep for me is like a typical healthy person pulling an all-nighter. It was quickly obvious that I was a danger to myself trying to lift and move heavy boxes on no sleep and I asked to be moved off of that shift and never put on it again.
Taha: So I'm gonna do this for the week. I think it's gonna be great!
Me: He obviously hasn't been watching this channel for long...
i have a wake light thing that slowly lights up in the morning to wake you up. it can also (but doesn’t have it) play a soothing song that slowly gets louder. i find it a pretty calming way to wake up every morning
I love this channel - making videos about topics that are relevant to out daily basis, while giving honest answers
love the background of the dog snores, need that at all times from now on
I did the sleep however long I like for a while in my early twenties, WIth the difference that there was nothing I needed to be on time for. For me it turned into a 12-12 sleeping schedual. Obviously that does not work well with how society is structured these days.
The reality is that while there are jobs where you can work/sleep any hour of the day, there are twice as many where that is just not an option. So I don't think there will ever be a great chance to what the sleeping schedule looks like for most people.
thanks to university i have been able to get up at 9am earliest during the week and my productivity and quality of life has gone up so insanely much like I no longer felt miserable in class nor am I tired all day again. I don't like naps, they don't help me, but just that small change of being able to go to sleep at 1am and waking up at 9am has changed so much. mainly bc I am just not able to sleep before 1am naturally
4:12 Me when Answers in Progress uploads a new video
Best thing I did in my life. Use the smartwatch as alarm clock that gently vibrates in my wrist every morning without noise, without suffering, without having a sound that I start to really really hate!
I just realized this vid was posted today- this’s super interesting yo!! I’ve lately realized some of my problems with sleep are largely related to my alarm not going off & my stress around that, so it’s cool ya did this topic hehe
Sheep are so cute,,
A great example of that is definitely school for me, since teenagers need to go to bed and wake up later. Combined with ADHD I never get good sleep.
I have insomnia and sleep apnea so I have the sh*ttiest sleep you can imagine. But I am getting a tonsillectomy and adenoidectomy in 6 days so that’ll solve the apnea bit hopefully 🤞😅
My husband spent 8 years working with kind of whatever schedule he wanted, and he became a consistent bimodal sleeper. He slept partly at night and partly during the day, and his sleep during the day was his best sleep, he'd literally not move, no snoring, just sleep like the dead from like 1pm-4pm
Thanks for uploading this at midnight
Really on theme lol
My favourite bit was marvelling at the detail the camera was picking up on Taha's denim jacket while his face was out of focus. Really nice jacket, for real :) The rest of the video was great too
I don't remember seeing Taha lead his own video before so is this is first video or did I miss one? Either way great vid and I love you Taha!!!
Wasn't there one about how you text?
@@darlhumanman2930 yes! There waw
this channel really do be finding new ways to say 'eh it's not that deep dw about it' every time and I'm here for it
I think once as kid my optimal sleeping schedule was from 10 PM to 6 AM but that degraded into from 2 AM to 11 AM and i can't get enough sleep.
I should start napping.
My sleep is all over the place at the moment but typically I enjoy sleeping from about 11-8:30. If I don't sleep for at least 7.5 hours, I usually don't function well.
I function best with about 8.5-9.5 hours. Usually if I sleep a lot one night, I sleep a little less the next. So my sleep isn't very consistent, but I'm well aware of my patterns.
I don't usually use an alarm clock unless I have to wake up early for something. I also sleep better if I'm physically active during the day too.
10:03 snoring puppy noises in background. Yw.
I use Lo-Fi to wake me up. It's something that I adopted when I had roommates who slept in the same room and it's really beneficial. Lo-Fi is really soothing so it won't disturb your roommates but it's also soothing to you. I never wake up pissed
Constructive Criticism: much of the video was out of focus, including the ad read.
Great content and really well structured, I love what you guys are doing with this channel!
Working from home I frequently enjoy a lunchtime nap with my dogs and it’s great. Even if I don’t sleep it’s so relaxing to read surrounded by snoring dogs