Really appreciate your videos Sensei. Modern Arnis incorporates much of this ya ? In 95 I was blessed . It was a time of flux when lots was happening around the lions den and a couple of Shamrocks, Maurice Smith ,Tuhan Kier , many masters from around the world were here in the PNW ,The Hunted was being filmed and Tuhan was working with Benny and Tommy lee Jones. A high point of this life.
I started with TKD, but have been training in primarily Doce Pares Eskrima-Kali-Arnis for the last 30 years. There's so much to learn, one can train forever.
LOVE FMA!!!!! Been training in it for approx. 20 yrs. The only problem I have is that I wish I would’ve gotten into it sooner. It is, IMO, the BEST form of self defense out there.
Well, I'll try to put it into words: For my part I only trained a bit in Escrima; from that point on I found it very helpful as it is very dynamic and needs a lot of coordination. So I think that different martial artists get a lot from it through this coordination and the speed the moves are performed.
Really appreciate that. I’m really happy with the group we got going in. Everyone has a passion for martial arts and no ego. Didn’t expect that going in to it.
Filipino martial arts are the best martial arts for self defence. Simple, practical, and highly effective. Filipino martial arts and Silat are the only two martial arts styles that have credible knife fighting and knife defence techniques.
@@angeloschneider4272 No they don't. Older versions of Japanese jujitsu had knife defence and weapons kata. But that knowledge is now lost. Even Judo had strikes and wrestling in its syllabus, now thanks to Olympic sport rules only throws are taught in Judo. What was earlier one of the best forms of self defence has now been reduced to a sport.
@@angeloschneider4272 Why would anyone train knife defence when knives are not a part of any tournaments? Strikes like kicks and punches are part of traditional Judo, but they are not allowed in tournaments. So why would any dojo train in strikes? Did you even know that Judo was supposed to have kicks and knee strikes? And who trains Japanese jujitsu these days? Even in Japan BJJ is more popular because it is an easy sport to learn and does not require a high level of physical strength and fitness.
@@aavinashchaliha7810 Yes they do. As I practize that stuff: I know and: you don't. Traditional Judo still has for high level DAN graduations strike and weapon based kata. No idea why you think traditional Ju Jutsu dropped any weapon related stuff. Most Ju Jutsu styles are centered around weapons. And all styles which do not have "Ju Jutsu" in their name, like Kashima Shin Ryu Or Katori Ryu or Yagyu Ryu they all have a subsection called Tai Jutsu, which is unarmed combat against unarmed or armed opponents. They all do the same weapon curriculum like did always. Nothing is lost. You even see plenty on youtube.
Great video as always. Big fun of FMA. I have been practising FCS Kali the last 5 years. Always wanted to learn Doce Paris and Balintawak as well but unfortunately no teachers of those systems around here.
The way they strike with the sticks is correct. They power starts at the feet and rotates through the hip. It is a snapping motion, not a swinging motion. Most of the weapon movement occurs after the motion of the arms and hips. I always see people flailing with sticks.
NO WONDER!!!! The student becomes the teacher. Literally when I first trained with you I was super obsessed on how TF you were able to do abinicos with both hands. ANd so clean! Id practice every day ( and your right the rattan sticks are deadly ) Even when we'd practice and you stick a slice in across the belly , I was like how is he sneaking that in. And literally YOUR teacher is doing the same thing to you...Good stuff guro!
I study Kali and I agree with everything you're saying about the art and it's drills and the benefits, but one of my criticisms of Kali is that in an adrenaline fueled situation, rattan doesn't have the stopping power of hard wood, a steel bolo, or an extendable baton, but very few people train with those enough to be just as fast as they are with rattan, so they think they'll be able to pull off techniques in the wild that they do all the time with lightweight rattan in training. Do an hour of florete-filled training with a kamagong wood garrote and see how your forearm muscles and wrist joint feel the next morning.
I only use kamagog or hardwood for all my personal work. I obviously don’t spar with it but for any solo training it’s all i use. I agree with you. My arms are way stronger because of it.
Shark Dog Dog brother real contact stick fighter trained originally with Remy Presas for 1 year then started going gathering fights and just refining moves after each gathering.
"Aliveness drilling" - I like that term. That is basically what we do in Aikido, except that we do not break out of the role of "attacker" and "defender" - but we increase the pace, and the attacker is allowed to break out of the rhythm or make logical counters, and force the defender into doing a different technique.
FMA for me has always been one of the "utmost beautiful looking" martial art. Never really got the chance to train FMA but i love looking at it, the beauty of movement is amazing, mesmerizing
I would have liked a longer video myself (but I don't think I've watched any of your longer ones yet). I've been doing Pekiti for a couple years now, but don't know much about other Filipino styles. Looking forward to the KI video.
I trained Kali during the early to mid 2000s. Don´t even know what style it was. And although I haven´t had the chance to train at an actual school or under a teacher for quite some time now I still practice at home what I learned back then on an almost daily basis. I simply enjoy the physical sensation of doing these flowy, interconnected movements. The concentration and focus involved in the Sinawali-style partner exercises literally sent me into a kind of trance state. Man, I just love Filipino martial arts...
Also your philosophy on developing skill in sparring using aliveness drills is spot on. The idea is to train reaction to happen quickly but without unnecessary stress response. This is actually why traditional arts like karate didn’t emphasize sparring until one’s technique had years of development from various types of drills, including kata training.
This is one of the many styles of Arnis that I wanted to experience, unfortunately there are no chapters of Doce Pares here in Manila at least prior to my knowledge.
I've done Dog brothers type fighting, to real full contact. The injuries a stick of rattan can dish out are hideous, even when wearing protective gear. I remember one guy got his head gear ripped off and his opponent struck him before he could stop and the guy's face from eyebrow to jawline exploded. I got my cheek cut in half when a stick got rammed into the corner of my mouth. Another guy I fought his jacket inadvertently came open in the back and I hit him there without knowing and he had this huge welt with a big c shaped cut down the middle of it. My instructor whacked my hand (no gear) and my middle knuckle bruised so fast it turned black. What is perhaps crazy is I ENJOYED all the punishment!!
Yes the adrenaline is nuts… i cracked my training partner on his headgear and blood just came pouring out one time… caught him in that lil spot it has that isn’t fully protected.. i also once had my brother believe his hand was broken off 😅 it’s really nuts
I nearly was blinded. Optometrist said it was a miracle that it was milletres from catastrophe. We both were experienced practitioners but our egos got the better of us. Stabbed straight in the eye with a stick. He broke a bone in my hand in the same combination. Full contact sparring with no gear is utterly reckless.
Excellent video. I love looking at the way different fma train to develop skills. Looking forward to your insights on Illistrisimo and Balintiwak too because so many guys have only trained one system (which is great for building skills but limits their ability to compare and contrast things the way you do).
really cool stuff! BJJ blackbelt here - I can really appreciate the skills you displayed here. These skills would be a real powerup for my grappling game! (or maybe my grappling would be the powerup!)
I have trained a lot of combat sports, like boxing and MMA, but I have always wanted to try out Filipino martial arts. I wish there was a place near me to try it out. Great content, keep it up.
You hit the nail on the head when you said there is no other martial art like it . I come from a multi martial art background I trained in bjj , tae kwon do , boxing etc but when I was first exposed to Kali in 2017 it quickly became one of my most beloved martial arts such a simple no non sense approach to self defense and I agree with what you said about it really rounding out your martial arts game and changing the way you feel about martial arts. Before being exposed to Kali I had a good idea on how to strike and grapple but now that I know how weapons work and some of the self defense techniques in Kali I feel like my ability to defend my self in a actual street situation is enhanced greatly. Anyone thinking about trying fma should
Fully agree with your final comments. Also, the benefits of training early with little or no protective equipment, imo, can't be underestimated. No need to be a masochist, but the appreciation you get for the 'reality' of the situation is priceless. I had my 2 to 3 years of getting my hands hit at the beginning, too, but now they have a life of their own born from those blows. Great video, great drills, thanks for sharing.
What is not mentioned is sticks of that length are easily concealed, are not automatically seen as weapons, makeshift versions are much easily available. I don't remember exactly but I think that the sticks came about because it was a tool used in daily life. I think it was used for guiding animals but could be wrong. A more full dive into the martial art and the origin of it would be nice. I always like trying to understand the origin of the martial arts as I feel like it gives me a better understanding of it
I'm glad you mentioned about the yaw yan stuff and the full padding. I'm not a fan of that because the padding ends up turning it into a point based slug fest with almost no concern for personal safety. I've trained in Pekiti Tersia for several years and am always amazed at how people think they can look at some component of the training and automatically assume it's not effective. Those srills are never for fighting, it for specific skill development and progression. An internet guy even said sina wali is worthless for self defense. I got to train with Leo Gaje, jr. during visit to our school and at the time he was in his early 70s and was just an absolute monster in what he could do with sticks and knives. Now in his mid 80s he's still awesome even though he tires out more. A fount of knowledge and skill. Anyway, great video, Doce Pares was an influence with my early pekiti days and I still work that stuff.
Very insightful video and I like how you outline it. As for Balintawak, a lot of Balintawak don't do the stick-punch though, for controlled swings in my lineage we chamber and chop diagonally with the mid-stick with the caveat that in reality the stick would swing through. Others aim with the outer edge of the stick which makes it harder to check than a stick-punch.
I’ve only trained balintawak with three people and briefly. I’d have to do a full video on it. There is a great teacher near me so maybe I’ll jus do a collab video
@@inside_fighting I get your point though and that we always have to check ourselves to prevent that issue from arising - getting lost in the "rules" or format or tangential details of the drill and forgetting the practical intention/application. Like forgetting chi sao is for fist fighting, focusing so much on it without even practicing proper punches anymore. Understandably curriculums differ among different groups, we're always taught that the agak drill strikes are controlled versions of full swings and there should be adequate time spent on drilling full power swings, etc. It should be about going BONK BONK on people!
Love seeing videos on one of the favorite styles I've trained! Doce Pares was incredibly helpful for getting me to branch out into unarmed combat sports and martial arts coming from only having done Olympic fencing and karate when I was a very little kid.
So I just started fma like a month ago. I hear everyone say that's not how we do it in a fight. Like is the checks and parrys in the drills actually how you deal with incoming strikes in a fight or does the drills lead to a completely different way to deal with strikes?? I'm confused.
@@thomasginter2827 they are a series of movements but in sparring you only have one step.. a parry is a parry. A check is a check etc… you just won’t do them in sequence
Thanks for the video. I don't have the background to say that you are right or wrong. Everything that you've said makes sense to me, but again, I don't have the background to make a definitive judgment. I wish I had been able to try Doce Pares when I was young enough and healthy enough to gain real benefit. I think I would have enjoyed this training and would have felt more confident for having had this training. I would have also benefitted from the training in coordination if I could have started as a kid.
@@inside_fighting I have chronic fatigue syndrome. That means that the doctors really don't know what's wrong, but I doubt that I could get through an entire class of anything.
Love FMA, trained in 3x different styles. Unfortunately there's no good school anymore closeby (only Cinco Tero and this is not my preferabel style). Nothing better for close range together with Silat & Wing Tsung IMHO ... ;-)
Agree with you 200% on reflex training translate into real fighting. Idiots who only spar without proper technical drills end up getting brain or other body damages while will not see improvement on their techniques...
Oh and how dare I you sweep teacher like that it was a masterful sweep man damn! The old tried to tear you up after that lol I’ve had some experience like that with my old instructor in judo, he made me pay for it afterwards.
FMA and MMA are pretty much the best martial arts with a simple but brutally effective style. Both have been paved with blood to make the style better and more effective.
Thanks, enjoyed this. I've watched a few of your RUclips videos but had no idea this was your background. I've been training Doce Pares for nearly 5 years, my instructor was taught by Cacoy, he heads up CDP in Europe and the UK - he's is bound to know Chris, I'll show him this. Thank you for sharing your videos with Chris, agree with all your sentiments and much respect for your corto skills :-)
Modern arnis is cool. Its a mix of Balintawak and other FMA. Also small circle jujitsu ( more closer to aiki jujutsu vs aikido.) Its taught very simple, open then closer. Single weapons focused. Lots of empty hand and trips. Its taught in highschools in the Philippines.
I feel like FMA is better than Kempo it's more authentic Ed Parker weird chubby dude that was into elvis (FMA is more fluid and dynamic). They always in fall in the trap doing power ranger XMA which doesn't make sense. The stick fighting in Kempo looks like FMA but no whipping action. Although I had a good kempo teacher better idk what happened to the art. Because my kempo teacher that I had would in the 90s, He teach me stuff that looked like Okinawan karate with Kung fu attack to the eyes and hair. That's my unpopular opinion I never talked about.
Team Lakay is a Filipino MMA team all black belts in Wushu Sanda.. They are all amazing and thier fights are always awesome.. They know the Filipino arts
I love FMA! I had a teacher I trained a few hours a day a few times a week 1 on 1 with when I was a Muay Thai coach at the same gym as him. He taught me real Panantukan and Escrima from the Phillipines and I I fell in love with it. But he’s doing other stuff with life now so I’m looking for a new teacher. I have some friends who are mma fighters and kickboxers I’ve taught the moves to and we drill/spar with knives/rattans 1-2 times a week now. So I’m still getting the practice but it’s difficult to find a good teacher AND a school that spars
Ok man I’ve been checking out your videos for a while now and I enjoy them I like your honesty. So I’m in the Bay Area CA where can I go to learn this I want your recommendation I must say this is the first one I’ve seen that I’m really interested in. I do HEMA as well whichi enjoy a lot. There was one other I liked as well I think it’s a Portuguese martial law with a use a long staff which I feel and have some good crossover applications towards sword fighting. I hope you can consider helping me out. I’d appreciate your input. Thank you.
Had the privilege to train a few times with Danny Guba - Doce Pares Master - perfect gentleman, but hella scary when you see him in full flow 😮 - great vid as always 🎉
Trained with Danny 2 weeks ago. Comes up to scotland twice a year for seminars. Outstanding knowledge of doce pares. Trained and learned under a lot of the original doce pares masters.
Danny is great to train with, i have trained with him quite a few times. Also had the pleasure of training in the Doce Pares headquarters in Cebu City with Diony Canete back in 2009. And many other masters in some of the FMA systems.
Doug Marcaida is one of the best! His strikes look fast but soft... until you are hit by one! DUDE! it leaves a slight red mark, but the tissue is sore for days! and in the moment it makes that body part numb! LOL
I was fascinated with an obscure matrial arts system when I was young called "Yi Quan" or "Yi Quan." (from memory) They emphasized a highly-individual approach to training and understanding. They basically instructed that NO ONE can do you better than you and that you need to figure out, WITH A BROAD KNOWLEDGE BASE and a keen, imaginative mind, which specific way that you felt most comfortable exercising your intent. It was a very nebulous and interesting concept and I felt the instruction itself was nothing less than pure art and fascnating philosophy. It was the most fascinating artial art I've ever encountered by far. Btw, what i9s the refund rate on 1 view, precisely? Is it like a grocery store coupon that equalls 1/1000 of a cent? PS: i love your intro.
The two styles that fascinate me the most are balintawak and ilustrisimo. You can immediately recognize the movements. Always wondered what a synthesis of those two would look like...with a bit more boxing footwork to keep you mobile
Great video, for me the Filipinos and Indonesians have the best techniques with bladed weapons in the world! Now I'm waiting for a video from you on combat sambo. 😊
FMA is a combat art. We train destruction . Sticks , knives, empty hand destruction of the opponents arms, hand, and so on. We train CPD, modern Arnis, and progressive Arnis FMA all the way😎
I have training in Muay Thai and Karate jujitsu but believe me when I have those stick ratan In my hands I'm unstoppable I test it many times with my students the can't touch me or coming near me it hurts like a no Punch or Kick will never deliver with the full protection on top imagine without nothing ...it works 👍👍👍
I'm actually ok with the critics not appreciating Filipino martial arts. It makes the humble pie they end up eating so much more bitter. I lost count of the amount of times I get roasted, only to absolutely crush them moments later in sparring ON THEIR TERMS. They see sticks, but fail to see how that speed and angle transfers to empty hands. Or how gauging distance with weapons makes you hyper sensitive to feeling out ranges, which translates to dominating them at all ranges because I'M SIMPLY BETTER AT IT. Nothing more satisfying than getting a guy from outside striking range into a sudden clinch because they don't know how to hide that range transfer in passing. Hubud drills excel at teaching that.
Always been aware, never practiced. Once banned by the Spanish as well as every other Philippines art I believe. You should look Luke Holaway up bro heavy phillipno based arts teaches out of Japan, complete badass. They say once you learn the stick and knife everything else comes naturally. You got good skills bro.
There is no such thing as a perfect martial art, except maybe that practiced by Navy SEALs. Every so-called martial art was developed within the context of the culture and geography of the time. Much of it depends on what the guy attacking you is using.
Doce Pares was our P.E. back in the 90s and for the record nobody got kidnapped in our school when we had the program but some dumb@$$ thought it was a great idea to take it off. So sad now they have tablets back in my time we had sticks 😔. But on the bright side in my first halloween in America my Doce Pares came in handy when I showed up as Daredevil 😂
My personal FMA career started with Modern Arnis, then i moved via Doce Pares and DBMA towards ETF (Latosa) Escrima,. But now, not a purist anymore, i think that all the styles i did left something important. I added a bit of Muay Thai and Judo/Bjj and i like this , unconventional and very personal, mix. Not that i consider myself a master, but it fits for me. Greetz from Hamburg
People who criticize traditional types of training have never done it to a point of proficiency. If they had they would get it. Don’t pay attention to the peanut gallery! 😂😂
Do you know about the duel incident on the island of Madura, Indonesia, 2 brothers vs 5 people. What was surprising was that the two brothers won against 5 people and managed to kill 4 of their opponents, while 1 person was left alive. they all duel using sickles. FYI, they are all Silat experts. 2 brothers, experts in Kuntau silat from Kalimantan. And the opponents were 5 Silat practitioners from the Madura Islands
They are awesome. I’ve never been to their gatherings but trained with different guys who have. They are all very good. Grappling seems like it became a huge part of it
Do you like Filipino arts? Let me know!!!
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@@CocaineCowboyJoneshahah well that’s amazing. sadly many Filipinos like other countries martial arts more and the fma are so special
Really appreciate your videos Sensei. Modern Arnis incorporates much of this ya ? In 95 I was blessed . It was a time of flux when lots was happening around the lions den and a couple of Shamrocks, Maurice Smith ,Tuhan Kier , many masters from around the world were here in the PNW ,The Hunted was being filmed and Tuhan was working with Benny and Tommy lee Jones. A high point of this life.
I've done FMA for over 20 years. I trained with Cacoy Canete while he was still alive. Old man was a wizard.
He was amazing. I was lucky to have trained with him too. Really special guy
How about that laugh of his? Lmao
I started with TKD, but have been training in primarily Doce Pares Eskrima-Kali-Arnis for the last 30 years. There's so much to learn, one can train forever.
LOVE FMA!!!!! Been training in it for approx. 20 yrs. The only problem I have is that I wish I would’ve gotten into it sooner. It is, IMO, the BEST form of self defense out there.
FMA fits into any martial art and enhances every martial art.
Agree fully
You can see how it fits and connects wing chun and boxing
So true, people tend to call something stupid because they don't know the reason behind of it!
FMA is really fun and really helps everything else I train. It's hard to explain
Couldn’t agree more. It’s hard to put in to words
Well, I'll try to put it into words: For my part I only trained a bit in Escrima; from that point on I found it very helpful as it is very dynamic and needs a lot of coordination. So I think that different martial artists get a lot from it through this coordination and the speed the moves are performed.
I remember when you released your first video, with 800 subscribers. So good to see your channel grow to 30k plus 💪
Really appreciate that. I’m really happy with the group we got going in. Everyone has a passion for martial arts and no ego. Didn’t expect that going in to it.
Filipino martial arts are the best martial arts for self defence. Simple, practical, and highly effective.
Filipino martial arts and Silat are the only two martial arts styles that have credible knife fighting and knife defence techniques.
All Japanese martial arts also have credible knife defense techniques.
@@angeloschneider4272 No they don't. Older versions of Japanese jujitsu had knife defence and weapons kata. But that knowledge is now lost.
Even Judo had strikes and wrestling in its syllabus, now thanks to Olympic sport rules only throws are taught in Judo. What was earlier one of the best forms of self defence has now been reduced to a sport.
@@aavinashchaliha7810 Lolz, why would the knowledge be lost when it is trained daily?
@@angeloschneider4272 Why would anyone train knife defence when knives are not a part of any tournaments?
Strikes like kicks and punches are part of traditional Judo, but they are not allowed in tournaments. So why would any dojo train in strikes? Did you even know that Judo was supposed to have kicks and knee strikes?
And who trains Japanese jujitsu these days? Even in Japan BJJ is more popular because it is an easy sport to learn and does not require a high level of physical strength and fitness.
@@aavinashchaliha7810 Yes they do.
As I practize that stuff:
I know
and:
you don't.
Traditional Judo still has for high level DAN graduations strike and weapon based kata.
No idea why you think traditional Ju Jutsu dropped any weapon related stuff. Most Ju Jutsu styles are centered around weapons.
And all styles which do not have "Ju Jutsu" in their name, like Kashima Shin Ryu Or Katori Ryu or Yagyu Ryu they all have a subsection called Tai Jutsu, which is unarmed combat against unarmed or armed opponents.
They all do the same weapon curriculum like did always. Nothing is lost.
You even see plenty on youtube.
Great video as always. Big fun of FMA. I have been practising FCS Kali the last 5 years. Always wanted to learn Doce Paris and Balintawak as well but unfortunately no teachers of those systems around here.
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It’s so hard to find good instructors that’s the sad thing
The way they strike with the sticks is correct. They power starts at the feet and rotates through the hip. It is a snapping motion, not a swinging motion. Most of the weapon movement occurs after the motion of the arms and hips. I always see people flailing with sticks.
I’ve trained Gina Doce Pares for nearly 3 years and have grown deeply passionate about it. Great to see this amazing system being promoted!!
We NEED a much longer video on this please.
Thanks for putting into words something I’ve been trying to explain about drilling (hubud etc) for years. Cheers from the UK.
NO WONDER!!!! The student becomes the teacher. Literally when I first trained with you I was super obsessed on how TF you were able to do abinicos with both hands. ANd so clean! Id practice every day ( and your right the rattan sticks are deadly ) Even when we'd practice and you stick a slice in across the belly , I was like how is he sneaking that in. And literally YOUR teacher is doing the same thing to you...Good stuff guro!
HAHAHA yes everything he did to me I stole brother. Miss training together but we will start again soon.
I study Kali and I agree with everything you're saying about the art and it's drills and the benefits, but one of my criticisms of Kali is that in an adrenaline fueled situation, rattan doesn't have the stopping power of hard wood, a steel bolo, or an extendable baton, but very few people train with those enough to be just as fast as they are with rattan, so they think they'll be able to pull off techniques in the wild that they do all the time with lightweight rattan in training. Do an hour of florete-filled training with a kamagong wood garrote and see how your forearm muscles and wrist joint feel the next morning.
I only use kamagog or hardwood for all my personal work. I obviously don’t spar with it but for any solo training it’s all i use. I agree with you. My arms are way stronger because of it.
Kamagong E. Hondas cars. It is crazy hard.
Shark Dog Dog brother real contact stick fighter trained originally with Remy Presas for 1 year then started going gathering fights and just refining moves after each gathering.
GM Presas was a true monster of the art. And rumor has it he was quite a player with the ladies.
"Aliveness drilling" - I like that term. That is basically what we do in Aikido, except that we do not break out of the role of "attacker" and "defender" - but we increase the pace, and the attacker is allowed to break out of the rhythm or make logical counters, and force the defender into doing a different technique.
FMA for me has always been one of the "utmost beautiful looking" martial art. Never really got the chance to train FMA but i love looking at it, the beauty of movement is amazing, mesmerizing
I would have liked a longer video myself (but I don't think I've watched any of your longer ones yet). I've been doing Pekiti for a couple years now, but don't know much about other Filipino styles. Looking forward to the KI video.
In my experience pekiti is more structured than dove pares. I could have talked about this for hours but i try and keep my videos 20 min or less
Beautiful to watch thank you for sharing
Great video!!! I love when you show Filipino martial arts 😊
Thanks so much 🙏🏼
Great introduction to Doce Pares. Very interesting. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I trained Kali during the early to mid 2000s. Don´t even know what style it was. And although I haven´t had the chance to train at an actual school or under a teacher for quite some time now I still practice at home what I learned back then on an almost daily basis. I simply enjoy the physical sensation of doing these flowy, interconnected movements. The concentration and focus involved in the Sinawali-style partner exercises literally sent me into a kind of trance state. Man, I just love Filipino martial arts...
You got the bug :)
Also your philosophy on developing skill in sparring using aliveness drills is spot on. The idea is to train reaction to happen quickly but without unnecessary stress response. This is actually why traditional arts like karate didn’t emphasize sparring until one’s technique had years of development from various types of drills, including kata training.
FMA rocks..I train PFS Lacosta Inosanto and Illumustrimo
I’ve trained with Guro Dan. He’s amazing
This is one of the many styles of Arnis that I wanted to experience, unfortunately there are no chapters of Doce Pares here in Manila at least prior to my knowledge.
I've done Dog brothers type fighting, to real full contact. The injuries a stick of rattan can dish out are hideous, even when wearing protective gear. I remember one guy got his head gear ripped off and his opponent struck him before he could stop and the guy's face from eyebrow to jawline exploded. I got my cheek cut in half when a stick got rammed into the corner of my mouth. Another guy I fought his jacket inadvertently came open in the back and I hit him there without knowing and he had this huge welt with a big c shaped cut down the middle of it. My instructor whacked my hand (no gear) and my middle knuckle bruised so fast it turned black. What is perhaps crazy is I ENJOYED all the punishment!!
Yes the adrenaline is nuts… i cracked my training partner on his headgear and blood just came pouring out one time… caught him in that lil spot it has that isn’t fully protected.. i also once had my brother believe his hand was broken off 😅 it’s really nuts
I nearly was blinded. Optometrist said it was a miracle that it was milletres from catastrophe. We both were experienced practitioners but our egos got the better of us. Stabbed straight in the eye with a stick. He broke a bone in my hand in the same combination. Full contact sparring with no gear is utterly reckless.
Great video. FMAs really should be explored by all martial artists at some point. It really opens your eyes.
Excellent video. I love looking at the way different fma train to develop skills. Looking forward to your insights on Illistrisimo and Balintiwak too because so many guys have only trained one system (which is great for building skills but limits their ability to compare and contrast things the way you do).
really cool stuff! BJJ blackbelt here - I can really appreciate the skills you displayed here. These skills would be a real powerup for my grappling game! (or maybe my grappling would be the powerup!)
I’m a black belt and I’ll be honest, the hand drills and flow helped my bjj tremendously
I have trained a lot of combat sports, like boxing and MMA, but I have always wanted to try out Filipino martial arts. I wish there was a place near me to try it out. Great content, keep it up.
Thank you very much. It’s frustrating that it’s hard to find
You hit the nail on the head when you said there is no other martial art like it . I come from a multi martial art background I trained in bjj , tae kwon do , boxing etc but when I was first exposed to Kali in 2017 it quickly became one of my most beloved martial arts such a simple no non sense approach to self defense and I agree with what you said about it really rounding out your martial arts game and changing the way you feel about martial arts. Before being exposed to Kali I had a good idea on how to strike and grapple but now that I know how weapons work and some of the self defense techniques in Kali I feel like my ability to defend my self in a actual street situation is enhanced greatly. Anyone thinking about trying fma should
Fully agree with your final comments. Also, the benefits of training early with little or no protective equipment, imo, can't be underestimated. No need to be a masochist, but the appreciation you get for the 'reality' of the situation is priceless. I had my 2 to 3 years of getting my hands hit at the beginning, too, but now they have a life of their own born from those blows. Great video, great drills, thanks for sharing.
Thanks so much 🙏🏼 those hand strikes are really terrible
Liked the video , I'll be watching it again later this week .
What is not mentioned is sticks of that length are easily concealed, are not automatically seen as weapons, makeshift versions are much easily available.
I don't remember exactly but I think that the sticks came about because it was a tool used in daily life. I think it was used for guiding animals but could be wrong. A more full dive into the martial art and the origin of it would be nice. I always like trying to understand the origin of the martial arts as I feel like it gives me a better understanding of it
Oh wow, your teachers body mechanics were fantastic
I’m very lucky he was my teacher 🙏🏼
I'm glad you mentioned about the yaw yan stuff and the full padding. I'm not a fan of that because the padding ends up turning it into a point based slug fest with almost no concern for personal safety. I've trained in Pekiti Tersia for several years and am always amazed at how people think they can look at some component of the training and automatically assume it's not effective. Those srills are never for fighting, it for specific skill development and progression. An internet guy even said sina wali is worthless for self defense.
I got to train with Leo Gaje, jr. during visit to our school and at the time he was in his early 70s and was just an absolute monster in what he could do with sticks and knives. Now in his mid 80s he's still awesome even though he tires out more. A fount of knowledge and skill.
Anyway, great video, Doce Pares was an influence with my early pekiti days and I still work that stuff.
You are lucky you got to train with Tuhon Gaje. Must have been awesome
This was a really great video. I want to shout out my Guru Tony and the Pangasinan system of kali in Cleveland, OH.
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Fantastic video. Lovely flow and drill work. Thank you for sharing 👊
Very insightful video and I like how you outline it.
As for Balintawak, a lot of Balintawak don't do the stick-punch though, for controlled swings in my lineage we chamber and chop diagonally with the mid-stick with the caveat that in reality the stick would swing through. Others aim with the outer edge of the stick which makes it harder to check than a stick-punch.
I’ve only trained balintawak with three people and briefly. I’d have to do a full video on it. There is a great teacher near me so maybe I’ll jus do a collab video
@@inside_fighting I get your point though and that we always have to check ourselves to prevent that issue from arising - getting lost in the "rules" or format or tangential details of the drill and forgetting the practical intention/application.
Like forgetting chi sao is for fist fighting, focusing so much on it without even practicing proper punches anymore.
Understandably curriculums differ among different groups, we're always taught that the agak drill strikes are controlled versions of full swings and there should be adequate time spent on drilling full power swings, etc. It should be about going BONK BONK on people!
I really enjoyed this. Make some more about this.
Absolutely 🙏🏼
Grand Master Chris has been my teacher since late 2012.
When i'm in montreal I am going to come visit. He's the best. I miss him lots
@@inside_fighting Awesome. He's still teaching a group over here. Love the channel bud. Keep the videos coming.
Love seeing videos on one of the favorite styles I've trained! Doce Pares was incredibly helpful for getting me to branch out into unarmed combat sports and martial arts coming from only having done Olympic fencing and karate when I was a very little kid.
We are lucky we both got to train it 🙏🏼
This was really cool to learn about. Thanks for this one
Glad you enjoyed it!
Did balinwantak found it very fun, tough and effective and great starting point to weapon skills work
It’s a great system. I have my issues with it but that’s like any martial art. Overall it makes great stick fighters
those are some cool kinetics, i enjoyed the footage, thanks.
Appreciate it 🙏🏼
We train with arnis sticks every once in a while. It love it.
I would love to see a video the end result if all those drills. Like how you actually fight using FMA empty hand.
I can show some videos. It makes your parties and checks faster and makes it easier to enter but it never looks as clean
So I just started fma like a month ago. I hear everyone say that's not how we do it in a fight. Like is the checks and parrys in the drills actually how you deal with incoming strikes in a fight or does the drills lead to a completely different way to deal with strikes?? I'm confused.
@@thomasginter2827 they are a series of movements but in sparring you only have one step.. a parry is a parry. A check is a check etc… you just won’t do them in sequence
Thanks for the video.
I don't have the background to say that you are right or wrong. Everything that you've said makes sense to me, but again, I don't have the background to make a definitive judgment.
I wish I had been able to try Doce Pares when I was young enough and healthy enough to gain real benefit. I think I would have enjoyed this training and would have felt more confident for having had this training. I would have also benefitted from the training in coordination if I could have started as a kid.
Starting young makes a big difference but its never too late to pick up a style like this IMO.
@@inside_fighting I have chronic fatigue syndrome. That means that the doctors really don't know what's wrong, but I doubt that I could get through an entire class of anything.
Nice video, thanks for sharing.
I concur. Doce Pares is freaking awesome. E.T.A - comprehensive excellence through a metric shit ton of sparring.
That’s a great way to put it
Does anyone else sing along to the opening song? 😂
😂😂😂
Love FMA, trained in 3x different styles. Unfortunately there's no good school anymore closeby (only Cinco Tero and this is not my preferabel style). Nothing better for close range together with Silat & Wing Tsung IMHO ... ;-)
Agree with you 200% on reflex training translate into real fighting. Idiots who only spar without proper technical drills end up getting brain or other body damages while will not see improvement on their techniques...
It’s sad because most of us train for passion as well and we end up in gym wars that ruin our bodies
Oh and how dare I you sweep teacher like that it was a masterful sweep man damn! The old tried to tear you up after that lol I’ve had some experience like that with my old instructor in judo, he made me pay for it afterwards.
Hahhaha yea that’s how it goes. There were times where he hit me so hard i thought I’d die
FMA and MMA are pretty much the best martial arts with a simple but brutally effective style. Both have been paved with blood to make the style better and more effective.
I laugh every time I hear your intro😂
Thanks, enjoyed this. I've watched a few of your RUclips videos but had no idea this was your background. I've been training Doce Pares for nearly 5 years, my instructor was taught by Cacoy, he heads up CDP in Europe and the UK - he's is bound to know Chris, I'll show him this. Thank you for sharing your videos with Chris, agree with all your sentiments and much respect for your corto skills :-)
That's so cool. WIll be awesome if they know each other.
This is pressure tested by town guards called tanod here in Philippines against criminals who are into drugs
That explains why it’s so effective 😅
Modern arnis is cool. Its a mix of Balintawak and other FMA. Also small circle jujitsu ( more closer to aiki jujutsu vs aikido.) Its taught very simple, open then closer. Single weapons focused. Lots of empty hand and trips. Its taught in highschools in the Philippines.
I feel like FMA is better than Kempo it's more authentic Ed Parker weird chubby dude that was into elvis (FMA is more fluid and dynamic). They always in fall in the trap doing power ranger XMA which doesn't make sense.
The stick fighting in Kempo looks like FMA but no whipping action. Although I had a good kempo teacher better idk what happened to the art. Because my kempo teacher that I had would in the 90s, He teach me stuff that looked like Okinawan karate with Kung fu attack to the eyes and hair. That's my unpopular opinion I never talked about.
They are both interesting but for me Filipino arts made way more sense and felt more rooted… like you said
Fma urban based survival and jungle based military fighting
Team Lakay is a Filipino MMA team all black belts in Wushu Sanda.. They are all amazing and thier fights are always awesome.. They know the Filipino arts
I love FMA! I had a teacher I trained a few hours a day a few times a week 1 on 1 with when I was a Muay Thai coach at the same gym as him. He taught me real Panantukan and Escrima from the Phillipines and I I fell in love with it. But he’s doing other stuff with life now so I’m looking for a new teacher. I have some friends who are mma fighters and kickboxers I’ve taught the moves to and we drill/spar with knives/rattans 1-2 times a week now. So I’m still getting the practice but it’s difficult to find a good teacher AND a school that spars
Kali, the drill makes u really good reaction , even in Krav Maga they are incorporated.
Would love to train this
Ok man I’ve been checking out your videos for a while now and I enjoy them I like your honesty. So I’m in the Bay Area CA where can I go to learn this I want your recommendation I must say this is the first one I’ve seen that I’m really interested in. I do HEMA as well whichi enjoy a lot. There was one other I liked as well I think it’s a Portuguese martial law with a use a long staff which I feel and have some good crossover applications towards sword fighting. I hope you can consider helping me out. I’d appreciate your input. Thank you.
Hey send me an email with more specific of where you are at and I’ll see what i can recommend!
Had the privilege to train a few times with Danny Guba - Doce Pares Master - perfect gentleman, but hella scary when you see him in full flow 😮 - great vid as always 🎉
Thanks so much!
Trained with Danny 2 weeks ago. Comes up to scotland twice a year for seminars. Outstanding knowledge of doce pares. Trained and learned under a lot of the original doce pares masters.
Danny is great to train with, i have trained with him quite a few times. Also had the pleasure of training in the Doce Pares headquarters in Cebu City with Diony Canete back in 2009. And many other masters in some of the FMA systems.
great video, ty Ilan :)
Thanks 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
DOCE PARES is in Australia will try it.
Make a video on the legends of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu redbelts
Good idea
The fluid motion of the strikes cause the weapon to vibrate. that vibration hits tissue and goes to the bone man! LOL Ya, it hurts!
Only people who have felt it understand 😅
Doug Marcaida is one of the best! His strikes look fast but soft... until you are hit by one! DUDE! it leaves a slight red mark, but the tissue is sore for days! and in the moment it makes that body part numb! LOL
I’m about to start doce paris and see how it works with Muay Thai and krabi krabong
I was fascinated with an obscure matrial arts system when I was young called "Yi Quan" or "Yi Quan." (from memory)
They emphasized a highly-individual approach to training and understanding. They basically instructed that NO ONE can do you better than you and that you need to figure out, WITH A BROAD KNOWLEDGE BASE and a keen, imaginative mind, which specific way that you felt most comfortable exercising your intent.
It was a very nebulous and interesting concept and I felt the instruction itself was nothing less than pure art and fascnating philosophy. It was the most fascinating artial art I've ever encountered by far.
Btw, what i9s the refund rate on 1 view, precisely? Is it like a grocery store coupon that equalls 1/1000 of a cent?
PS: i love your intro.
The two styles that fascinate me the most are balintawak and ilustrisimo. You can immediately recognize the movements. Always wondered what a synthesis of those two would look like...with a bit more boxing footwork to keep you mobile
I think Dan insansto systemo maphillido comes his instruction
It sucks that yes protection is needed for most you can’t really go to work with broken fingers .
Yea the hand damage is the worst
@@inside_fighting definitely I haven’t done Filipino fighting but I do longsword. A bunch of the older guys have fingers with s bends .
Would love to see the Balintawak video as a former trainee
Do that and Bajiquan
Dangerous mix
Would be most honored to train with you.
Thank you. I’ll be doing seminars eventually when my schedule opens up 🙏🏼
Silat I love is Inosanto and also Vic Pak Du Thouras
Both great
Serak silat is very interesting system
Great video, for me the Filipinos and Indonesians have the best techniques with bladed weapons in the world! Now I'm waiting for a video from you on combat sambo. 😊
FMA is a combat art. We train destruction . Sticks , knives, empty hand destruction of the opponents arms, hand, and so on. We train CPD, modern Arnis, and progressive Arnis
FMA all the way😎
well said
I have training in Muay Thai and Karate jujitsu but believe me when I have those stick ratan In my hands I'm unstoppable I test it many times with my students the can't touch me or coming near me it hurts like a no Punch or Kick will never deliver with the full protection on top imagine without nothing ...it works 👍👍👍
Very informative ❤️
Thank you 🙏🏼
I have not studied Doce pares
I'm actually ok with the critics not appreciating Filipino martial arts. It makes the humble pie they end up eating so much more bitter. I lost count of the amount of times I get roasted, only to absolutely crush them moments later in sparring ON THEIR TERMS. They see sticks, but fail to see how that speed and angle transfers to empty hands. Or how gauging distance with weapons makes you hyper sensitive to feeling out ranges, which translates to dominating them at all ranges because I'M SIMPLY BETTER AT IT. Nothing more satisfying than getting a guy from outside striking range into a sudden clinch because they don't know how to hide that range transfer in passing. Hubud drills excel at teaching that.
Looking forward to the vid on Balintawak 👍
Always been aware, never practiced. Once banned by the Spanish as well as every other Philippines art I believe. You should look Luke Holaway up bro heavy phillipno based arts teaches out of Japan, complete badass. They say once you learn the stick and knife everything else comes naturally. You got good skills bro.
Appreciate that man. This is old footage. I’ll look up Luke. Sounds awesome.
@@inside_fighting he has the Street Smart podcast, ex bouncer from Aus regularly trains in the Philippines, Real life experienced.
@@inside_fighting I think it's double L IN HOLLAWAY
Look up The Dog Brothers…
They fight in the parks with very little gear!
That exercise is laborious already in itself... Gasping for air... So if people are belittling it, certainly, they don't know what they're saying...
Thank you video
There is no such thing as a perfect martial art, except maybe that practiced by Navy SEALs. Every so-called martial art was developed within the context of the culture and geography of the time. Much of it depends on what the guy attacking you is using.
Yes they are made for the demands of their time and place
Doce Pares was our P.E. back in the 90s and for the record nobody got kidnapped in our school when we had the program but some dumb@$$ thought it was a great idea to take it off. So sad now they have tablets back in my time we had sticks 😔. But on the bright side in my first halloween in America my Doce Pares came in handy when I showed up as Daredevil 😂
My personal FMA career started with Modern Arnis, then i moved via Doce Pares and DBMA towards ETF (Latosa) Escrima,. But now, not a purist anymore, i think that all the styles i did left something important. I added a bit of Muay Thai and Judo/Bjj and i like this , unconventional and very personal, mix. Not that i consider myself a master, but it fits for me. Greetz from Hamburg
I think that’s the best journey of all. When you find your own way
People who criticize traditional types of training have never done it to a point of proficiency. If they had they would get it. Don’t pay attention to the peanut gallery! 😂😂
🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 you are correct. It’s based on a lack of experience
People who trained traditionally would have their nails fall off every week just by sparring.
Do you know about the duel incident on the island of Madura, Indonesia, 2 brothers vs 5 people.
What was surprising was that the two brothers won against 5 people and managed to kill 4 of their opponents, while 1 person was left alive.
they all duel using sickles.
FYI, they are all Silat experts. 2 brothers, experts in Kuntau silat from Kalimantan. And the opponents were 5 Silat practitioners from the Madura Islands
Wow. Weapons are dangerous. Real duels with weapons is crazy
love it
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What's your thoughts on the dog brothers and have you ever been to one of their gatherings
They are awesome. I’ve never been to their gatherings but trained with different guys who have. They are all very good. Grappling seems like it became a huge part of it
This video should be available only for a fee... this is amazing insight. Thank you sir. 🫡