USA win Women's Team Epee Bronze - London 2012 Olympics
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Highlights as USA win Bronze in the Women's Team Epee during the London 2012 Olympic Games.
Fencing was included for the first time at the 1896 Games in Athens, and has remained on the Olympic programme since then. The women's fencing competition entered the Games in 1924 in Paris. Today, men and women compete in individual and team events, in which three types of weapon are used: foil, epee and sabre. The foil was, at first, the only weapon used by women, until the 1996 Games in Atlanta, when women's epee was introduced. Women's sabre appeared for the first time on the Olympic programme in Athens in 2004.
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I really love this video. I've meet Courtney and Kelly Hurley before.
My fencing coach, Andrey Geva, is coaching them for the Rio 2016 Olympic Games.
I am so fortunate to meet them.
Cool! Kelly is dating my cousin.
That's awesome! Courtney is best friends with my brother.
_exclamation_! _name_ is _relation_ with _relative_!
Do you still go to alliance?
i think the one on the right is american. i just cant get my finger on it.
+MagicalManatee It's so funny seeing their helmets. Funnily enough, Ro (the American coach) is my coach at the fencing club I go to and he always makes fun of the kids who wear the flag masks.
+foxybingo2015 hey you aren't so bright yourself, can you not pick up sarcasm?
foxybingo2015
Well that would explain that.
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MagicalManatee I
I REALLY wish they would show this on the telly more often! :p
[Cold war joke]
Lawl
[Laughter]
nice cold war ref
I didn't know who would win until the final touch was scored. Somehow I completely missed the title of the video
There is a suprisingly big difference between male fencing and female fencing
ikr?!
How do you figure?
Female fencers tend to spend more time jockying for distance and position, while male fencers are far more likely to rush in aggressive. It's especially noticeable in sabre, as the male matches tend to be hits as fast as possible from the start, while female tend to spend a second or two jockying first before striking.
yeah really, I end up enjoying watching the women more because it seems more strategic and skilled
@@alexanderleeart You could say that, I personally don't find it as entertaining. You can definitely see the difference in the 2016 individual epee for men vs women. The women's match involved many wrist hits, and close-quarters combat, while the men had way more advancements, double-advancements, foot touches, and much more. You could say the technicality of women's fencing may be entertaining for a fencer, but for a spectator who has never fenced, they would definitely find more enjoyment in men fencing.
Interesting. I had my first experience with fencing today through a university club, and one of my first thoughts was "This is surprisingly similar to boxing." Nice to know I was actually on to something.
This makes me want to take up fencing again... I know I'll never get even close to the Olympic level, that wouldn't be my goal... the video reminds me how fun it was.
i wished you guys would change the title of the videos. Its a huge spoiler lol
I am about to show you what I used to do Fencing and I dearly love this game so much I was a certified coach too!!!!!!
If the contestants were wearing their flags, it would look like carnival.
I love fencing, It's so fun! ^_^
I love the American coach smmm😭😭❤️❤️
Ro 😍
That's not the priority selection sequence...that's the Sivkova testing her weapon to make sure it's working before fencing. It happens earlier in the bout as well, and is fairly common.
The speed of the lights changing is not something that slows down as it gets near selecting priority...it flickers at a regular rate and then STAYS ON GREEN, indicating selection of priority.
Maya went to my high school, she's a great peron and a great fencer!
EPIC MATCH!!!!!!!!
I can't help it, tears just came out
The champion should get a golden sword that they can use in these tournaments!
Branone the gold paint will just get scratched off and fencers will probably just want to use their own sword. I've got a few badges from tournaments that I've done well in that I sow onto my jacket but I don't think badges will be allowed in the Olympics.
for a few competitions on china (small ones), I received a "golden sword," the quality was complete trash, so I use my original FIE blades.
Never seen this match before. It makes me wonder, what are the coaches teaching these high level epee fencers? Hardly any touche was scored with a parry riposte. They wait and wait to attack, and the opponent reaction is counterattack.
Yeah it was boring.
Sivkova's last foot hit.....just wow. I couldn't hit the foot if you stood there and gave me a free shot....then again, I'm a sabeur!
sam signorelli you club wielding maniac! (From an epee fencer who probably couldn’t either)
2:25 haha! the hell?so instead of moving back and make a second attack, they decide to continue to stand there trying to score a hit
+wezurii Don't know about you, but my coach said retreating is the worst thing to do in infighting, foil or epee.
My coach told me to not get in that position in the first place and keep them at a distance. though retreating is okay when used in trying to trick your opponent. just differences in techniques I guess.
Aren't you wasting a foot tempo retreating out of infighting though? I mean sometimes your opponent will crush the distance and there's not much you can do about it.
you're right, but then again, it is up to you to maintain your fencing distance to the best you can. The way I fence doesn't get me in may close engagements so I'm going to just spout some nonsense.
If Your quick enough you might be able to seed your opponent's sword while retreating to better position yourself, though i reckon that's almost impossible from infighting.
True, but my point was that if you don't want to infight you could just run past them or "accidentally" bump into them
I wonder why the epee plays so differently from the foil which plays SO differently from the saber
Wow 😮I have no words
I don't think you're looking at the same vid I am. The priority light clearly is green, for the right, which was the US (54:07 on THIS vid. The one you referenced is the same vid, along with other matches. I have no idea what Natural Sound means). The ONLY following on red light was on the double touch.
Further, there is a graphic indicator on the US side of the screen (although it looks like a yellow card indicator), and the commentators got it right....you are wrong.
I find it slightly agonizing how they spent so very very long shuffling back and forth both trying to play defensive, like test the waters a little bit, see how they react if you move in, faint and try another angle, do something at least
Dude...the red and green lights flipped back & forth until the machine SETTLED on green....that's how a machine makes the selection. There was NO red light after the strip lights settled on green.
Thanks...I didn't even see that option.
Yeah....the announcer in the venue got it wrong. The lights indicated the US.
If you go to a tournament using a scoring box that does the determination (the Virtual Scoring Machine does) you'll see how it works.
Point number two was so slow it felt like the Cold War all over again.
I was there for this match, incredible play off. I have some good pictures should anyone be interested.
i wanna get a look into those pictures
No. they're mine
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I could only hear the main color commentary...which clearly says US....the background guy (announcing for spectators actually in the venue) is to garbled to hear over the other guys. I tried to find the original streaming, which did not have the color commentary, but I think it's down.
fencing is dope
I want 34:32 as my wallpaper! Go USA!
Here you go: imgur.com/RUZUaQ1
Scuba Steve
THANK YOU
Scuba Steve
You rock!
calfencer
Thanks for pointing it out! It's my wallpaper now too ;]
Scuba Steve Same.
USA
Actions offensives : Attaque
L'action est simple lorsqu'elle est exécutée en un seul mouvement: soit directe (dans la même ligne), soit indirecte (dans une autre ligne).
L'action est composée quand elle est exécutée en plusieurs mouvements.
I am about to show you what I used to do Fencing and I dearly love this game so much, I was a certified coach too!!!!!
Hope they add sword and shield, or just any other swordfighting practice. Would love to see it.
That is historical fencing! Fencing but as it was done in the 1600-1800 Europe :)
I've seen some guys trying it and it looks so cool
HEMA
Good thing there wasn't any more women's epee controversy
click left and press space at the same time. cheap slow mo, but still do the trick.
I wish something similar to gladiatorial combat was an olympic sport
WIN COLD LOVE REALLY NAUS
Nice
An people say a woman can't lead a dance 😂 .ain't that some b.s . An after learning the rules. I am a genuine fan of the sport !
This is a lot closer to how i learned to play, no charging in for suicide thrusts. It's great to kill the other person as long as you live to tell the tale.
The whole "suicide thrusts" thing is probably from foil and sabre, which revolve around the right of way which says the person who attacks first gets the point (can be changed by parrying or evading)
Bruh trye
HAY ES
Very different from men's
+Erik Fruto From what I've seen, men's fencing is just a contest of who can rush in and stab the other first. I think the women's fencing is a lot more fun to watch, with more strategy and patience.
+Gabe Lance you're watching saber then. This is epee
Gabe Lance Check out some mens foil. trust me the strategy in that is well worth watching
6;00 is it just me or is that a ff7 song?
search gatka fight with sword
Courtney stayed at my house for a weekend to teach a fencing camp near us
Why is there so much less aggression in women's fencing? You'd think the meta of the sport would be the same regardless of gender.
MonsterTeegs different events? Sabre is more aggressive.
I don't really think that theres less aggression. Women (stereotypically speaking) need to at least act as friends after a bout.
Cause they're doing Epee, which is a slower more calculated bout than Sabre or foil
left click i meant
Tournament in a few weeks. Watching this to learn LOL
hux sux why lol?
@@henrymob2651 because I'm not very good at it 😂
hux sux oh ok good luck man :)
@@henrymob2651 Thank you!!!!!!!! :D 🌻
C. HURLEY is good!
Epee is so easy to follow. Whoever gets their light off gets a hit.
Tomasz Losinski Do you fence? I fence epee
Bwab Gaming 702. I fence all three but my main is sabre then foil then epee.
Bwab Gaming 702 Only epee, the others are insane, I mean, by this point your both dead! Though I do wish we could cut... I really just want to plain old sword fight with my weapon of choice, a pair of medium weight 2 ft swords. But epee shall suffice for now.
@@CraftQueenJr 4 years later and I'm checking in to see if you discovered HEMA yet
you don't say... ?
the first USA player has really weird reflexes .She need to learn how to control her self more than that
So what's the goal here? To force the opponent to strike and miss, or to land a strike? Or both.....
I'm 4 years late but the goal is just to hit the other person first (40 millisecond window of time where both can score, since it's epee and weird). Generally, attacks that look like they are only at 80% of their power are meant to be feints/false attacks and are to instigate a response either as a parry that doesn't find the blade or a counterattack that will open up target area. So in a way, yes the goal can be to force them to miss, but since there's no priority rules in epee it's more about getting them to attack poorly so you can hit them first.
I love me some Maya Lawrence, who is my favorite black female fencer.
How many fencers here KNEW there'd be at least one double-touch in priority??
Lol I want to meet these announcers
this sport is funny lol idk why
is this a contest of swords or a contest of who can deplete their own calf muscles faster with that strange dancing?
walk forward in guard until the opponent is forced to attack, then target the wrist as they make their thrust
what are you even talking about. bouncing helps you be more quick on the feet and react way faster than just step by step footwork. if you don't know anything about the sport then just stfu
How were they able to do the scoring accurately before modern technology
They used chalk usually, then for a while they used ink, then they developed electronic fencing in the 50s I believe
Fire those narrator get me funny ones
34:50
Rare footage of WW3
46:33
Nope....the lights were on the US side for priority. RF HAD to score...US could've just burned the minute (not that it was likely to happen at this level)
is it wrong that I thought about the cold war during this? I am a hetalia fan so, I guess it's normal for me :3
Doctor Vale I did xD sad reality is that the cold war may become a thing again soon :(
34.21 haci fena
Boxers should be good at fencing
We had a couple of boxers join our club for a little while and they were very good with footwork and change in tempo. Had they continued both would have been tidy little fencers.
They appear to share so many attributes- footwork, timing, reach, hand-eye co-ordination, bursts of speed and stamia
Fenced an amateur boxer who fenced Sabre for about 2 years. His timing and hand speed was on point. Stop cuts were unbelievably well timed. It does seem that many of the skills he gained from boxing transfered over to fencing
Usa
Am I the only person who finds fencing a bit funny ?
+VikkiMinaj1
Yeah, it's been so sportified and had so many rule-changes over the past century it definitely looks a bit silly.
+VikkiMinaj1 Funny in what way?
+Michael Naulls that the "swords" look like wet noodles
krokodil The swords used are actually quite stiff and you can tell for the fact that they spring back into position after they bend them.
Remember the reason for the swords looking flimsy or wet noodles is due to the fencers wrist strength allowing them to bend in the way they do.
Professional fencers will use the stiffest blades available to increase point control.
💙💔😖😖❤💚😚
How did Russia lose?
watch the video
strike already!!!! good god, this is agonizing! had I been in the audience I would have taken a nap.
Watch sabre
MM.
holy hell the announcers are annoying, i dont think they stopped talking for more then 10 seconds the entire time.
Announcers gotta announce
+Victor Paine that's their job
Isn't that what they're paid to do?
US murafukin A
Нет Россия нет!!!!
lol team america got big thighs
+halogamer77 But they won though, so..
russian fencer fix your sock already
K
modern fencing is so sloppy,
What would you do differently?
I'm sure many athletes would be more clean and traditional if they could, but the way that modern rules are set up it benefits having more offense than defense
they should make the swords heavier again, the saber and epee used to be much heavier, not waving around a little feather.
maz 90 When did they change the weight of the swords?
+maz 90 I don't think you realize how impractical that is. Also dangerous? You ever tried lifting those swords? It's not sloppy. It's technique.
Look at America being cocky, putting they're flag on the mask, jk
Those flag masks are made by an English company.....
Conor Boyle
And it's not just the US that has masks with their flag on it...even Ghana has an approved design.
I really don't like the form of the American, that heavy stance with little movement in the legs when idling.
Since when did Americans care about form?
I don't like to see the mask designs. I think it's an unfair advantage & only serves to garner favor or distract others.
Anybody can do this!! Step 1:dance step 2:poke the other guy with a stick
I think there are like "top ten times civilians challenged pros" videos for people like you
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