If the situation with Aaron Hernandez hadn't gone down the way it did, I believe the Patriots double tight end set would have changed football forever.
This is still my favourite patriots offense The ability to switch in and out of heavy and empty in that 12 personnel set destroyed teams - they just had no answers for it
@@ThinkingFootballSB46 is so much worse for me because of this. I could accept the greatest Cinderella run in football history, especially since they only lost 35-38 against that same team a month earlier. Patriots just crumbled in 46 and had so many chances to put it away and just couldn't get it done.
Gronk getting hurt in the AFC Championship game and only being a decoy really stagnated the offense Also that defense was just out of resources by the time it got there
Man underrated comment. Really truly could have. The ability to go heavy, but yet still dominate the pass game would be even MORE applicable in today's NFL.
I don't think that there are enough TEs of that caliber in the league to really run in 12 personnel like the patriots were able to. Gronk was the best tight end of his generation and Aaron hernandez wasn't too far behind him from a pure talent standpoint. They had lightning in a bottle with those 2, and they really were only able to get both of them because gronk missed his last year in college with back surgery and Aaron hernandez was a psychopath
I was at near every home game this season. I remember midway through the season when the excited cheers half transformed into laughter with Brady to Moss because it felt so inevitable. The defense was throwing everything and it didn't matter. Moss was the big picture catalyst here. He could take a nap on the field and safeties would still have been way off the LOS. It opened everything up for Welker and Faulk. If the D slipped and left Moss alone, Brady instantly ignored everyone else and forced the ball to Moss. On the occasion that they would force it to him in double/triple coverage just to remind the defense they had forgotten about him, Moss frequently won those, too.
This channel is probably the top 2 or 3 football breakdowns/explainer/concepts anywhere. Selfishly I would love a video showing spags progression a d-coordinator from this 07 giants team to his 2024 chiefs team. What's the same, what's new, and how has has progressed and become one of the best ever.
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Simply the best channel to bring the complexity - hence the beauty - of the game to understandable, and, more importantly, immensely enjoyable level to the layman. Thank you for your great work.
Great video. Looking back this patriots offense not only put up historic numbers but did it on some of the best defensive minds of this century. Spags, Rex Ryan, Jim Johnson, Wade Phillips, Lebeau, Romeo Crennel, Marvin Lewis, Jack Del Rio, Tony Dungy. Really puts into perspective how dominate this offense was.
@10:13 that play action on the goal line was nasty. Moss's casual walk at the snap to sell a run block into a quick burst and release inside was beautiful. that DB was cooked within 2 feet of the LoS
The NFL let you have this footage?!? Hopefully the SEC changes their tune. So ready for your scouting and draft videos. You're the best channel and helping me learn so much about the X's and O's of the game. I'm a former hoops prodigy and football is still a new game to me
Yes sir - We are making a few videos with them, mostly focusing on retro breakdowns I doubt the SEC will change their mind anytime soon but we can hope
This was the first season where I really realized Brady was really special. I knew he was great before this, one of the best in the league. But this was where the elite decision making that had made him a star when he first started playing was really combined with his incredible passing ability. Sure he was always accurate, and he'd hit tight windows and deep balls from time to time, but in this season it felt like he was money every time. Every time he dropped back you were expecting a first down, if not a TD. Brady's arm strength was incredible. Not necessarily his deep ball, which was good in it's own right, but he threw so freaking hard. Especially over the middle or on those quick outs and curls. I've never really seen anything like it, before or since. There's been guys who've clocked faster throws, but Brady's were so consistently that way, and it seemed like he never missed. And not just that they were always catchable, but they were catchable in the best way possible. If it's a tight window, it's going to be right in the spot where only the receiver can get it. If there's run after catch opportunity, the ball is going to lead the receiver into space. It was perfection.
The Pats were a buzz saw that season…offensive juggernaut…but the down four the Giants had was ferocious on pass rush…Spags is the modern day Belichick when he was defensive coordinator for Giants back in the day
Spags I feel got overshadowed during BB/Pats near two decade run at the top. He thwarted BB TWICE on two of his SB trips with great talents on defense.
This video is so good! Def gonna try to use some of these schemes simplified down for our pop warner team next season! Last season we started in the basic I-Form and Pro-Form, but were able to expand after a few games. We got lucky and had a smart QB that can throw, so we were one of the only teams that was able to have success passing. We started in the splitback shotgun for extra blockers, but ended up having more success spreading it out with an adapted air raid kinda deal. Post_wheel, Seams, and Waggle were our best plays mixed with like some Jet Sweeps and started trying to mix in some motions. Of course we also ran the ball about 40% of the time too w the basic run plays- Dive, Off-Tackle or really Power/Duo but no guard pulling, and then the HB Toss to the strong and weak side. It took a few games to find our groove but once we did I felt like we were as good as any team in our division and won almost all our games the 2nd half of the season. Def watched some of your videos during last season too! What do u think the best playbook is for like 11u Youth Football? Maybe one for not having a QB and for having a QB that can throw...
4:20 "They've got Randy Moss in the slot on this one" #DefenseIsCookedAlready✌️The 07 Pats with Brady, Welker, and Moss were a cheat code 🤷♂️ It was GLORIOUS 🙌
Congrats on one of the most well put and spoke out videos I’ve seen on football . Loved watching this patriots team even as a Steelers fan. They were just that team … then came the wild card G men
Seeing the field at 1:14 and NOT having the QB run it in feels so foreign nowadays. Giving a QB that much room in the red zone is wild, even if he runs a 5.2 or whatever
That’s bc there were consequences. They don’t show the footage of McNabb, Vick, Vince young & others getting smacked up when they ran but it happened 😂
The ability of the Giants to win with 4 changed the numbers game that other teams couldn't. They could pressure without sacrificing numbers in coverage. This was actually he backdrop that allowed Spags to do Spafs things with Blitzes. It made extra rushers more effective, and made Brady's eye levels and processing have to constantly shift. It kept him and the receivers off time and out of rythym. I think without the dominant front 4, the Blitzes may not have worked. It is one of the few times that Bill was out coached in the playoffs. Even though the run was not very effective, averaging only 2.9 ypc, they should have used it more. Stuck with it. It would have allowed them to keep the pass rush honest and give Brady more looks at the defense.
Goes to show the type of D-line talents needed to make the elite QBs feel shook in the pocket. And ultimately where the Jimmys and Joes are going to beat the Xs and Os.
I totally forgot there used to be a ref behind the middle LB. It seems insane nowadays, and annoying for a QB trying to throw in the middle of the field.
Great video I love actual film breakdowns with schemes illustrated. Thanks. This whole offense was the epitome of pick your poison. Wes, moss, Watson. All of them working together to get the other man open.
"Insane", "Unstoppable", "Unguardable" etc are all grossly overused, but they are completely justified for Randy Moss. His combination of skills was and remains without compare. Extreme high-end ability in pretty much every possible area. He is, frankly, the most talented player at any position to ever play the game of football and easily yore most effective scoring weapon. Even a bit past his prime, pairing him with Brady was a true joke. Moss caught 23 TD while sitting out numerous 2nd halves, had a few called back for phantom OPI (Dallas, Philly games) that was more of a mercy call from officials. Hell, Randy even defeated the Giants Hail Mary coverage at the very end of the Super Bowl, the ball was just a tad late...the amount of coverage Moss received in the playoffs rivaled the OJ Simpson trial.
I’m in my 40’s and this is the greatest team I’ve ever seen. I fully believe had they not played the giants at the end of the regular season, they would have beaten them in the Super Bowl and made history. Playing them in the regular season gave them the game plan to beat them
Its not like its a big secret if your front 4 dominate the line of scrimmage the offense is going to struggle. Eagles almost beat the patriots too. At the end of the day the giants defence matched up very well vs the patriots offense, you dont need a "blueprint" in these instances, just team performance
I had a sneaky suspicion that even with a 07 Pats/Brady in the thumbnail that Spags was going to make a cameo. That Giants pass rush talent in the front 4 were playing like absolute maniacs by the playoffs. So as Brady and the pass game were ascending in January so did Strahan, Osi and Justin Tuck spear heading that pass rush.
I've been a Pats fan all my life, I was too young to remember this season, but when I learned about it, I was proud of them, even if they didnt win SB 42.
This was a great video! This Patriots team always fascinated me by how dominant they were during the regular season, but were able to be outsmarted in the final game. Thanks for including the Giants gameplan, as well. Also, loved how you first broke down how challenging the concepts were to stop, but also had a dedicated section on how the specific talented players they had made the gameplan as unstoppable as it was. Made it clear that your scheme can only go as far as the personnel can take it.
I'm not a Patriots fan, but the '07 Patriots are one of my favorite teams of all time. I loved the Moss redemption after wasting away on the Raiders, and the Pats were so futuristic that year.
This is the era when I started to get into football, but it feels weird seeing the umpire lined up behind the middle linebacker. He’s gotta be agile, head on a swivel.
People say this is when Brady became "elite" but imo he always had this talent. He would have shined a lot sooner stat wise if the Pats actually gave him WRs. No offense but Dion Branch being your best receiver before 07 says a lot. Imagine if Brady had Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne early in his career.
There is more to an offense than passing. WRs are the last piece to the puzzle that you add. A QBs best friend is an effective run game, not a great WR talent. And brady always had an effective run game. He was without a doubt a game manager to start his career. There is no shame in it. It takes the vast majority of QBs a few years to figure it out, rodgers is another good example of this. The peytons mahomes and marinos of the nfl world are the outliers
Has the Patriots fan myself though this offense was definitely generational and change the landscape of offenses in the NFL. It's not without its weaknesses and the New York Giants in Super Bowl 42 definitely exposed it, though I hated it at the time I can't help but respect the New York Giants game plan against this Dynamic offense
great stuff. if you could, it would be nice if you make a video about the resurgence of the running game and the pistol pony formation stuff that we saw this season haha
Based on strength of schedule, and relative to league offensive performance, the '07 Pats are by far the greatest offense in NFL history. No one, not Denver in '13, the Chiefs, the Greatest Show on Turf, the late 80's Niners, or other older teams, are even close.
Blah blah the 2013 Broncos scored more. The 07 Patriots schedule was not harder, cry harder, lost the scoring record only 6 yrs later after 2 SBs. Friggin patriot fans still salty, trying to call their lost season the best offense ever, completely dismantled by NYG. Even Jay Alford got a sack in.
@@WalterWhiteFootballSharing how you gonna say the 13 Broncos were better, based party on how they performed in the playoffs, when wet-fart-noodle-arm, literally on welfare disability Peyton Manning put up 8 points in a SB that they lost by 33
Great channel great breakdown love it but so basically you’re saying he still Manning’s offense when he retired right was he retired at this time? I don’t know😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
I like your show. .. i am a giant fan. do a giants defense break down against either patriot SB or bellichek against the bills. Offense wins games, defense wins championships. I think the SB 46 mvp shouldve been steve weatherford. Im not kidding. Brady never started outside his own 20. Edit: 9:53 megatron all day.
Lol. This is pure copium. Defences are significantly different today than 15+ years ago. Cheifs did not have the personel to even run this kind of offense after tyreek
@@omegakilo871 nope, just a simple observation to instantly show how wrong you are. Modified version of what? The colts offense in 04? Greatest show on turf? Miami and dan marinos run and gun offense? Pats originated nothing, dude in the video mentioned that more than once. You pats fans love to bend over backwards to justify your hero worship. Always funny to watch
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This video is pretty good. But. There are some serious over blown areas and not coverage of some key areas that matter. Out of the back field - Kevin Faulk was an absolute weapon and if the down field started getting choked - the options here were real. Mike Vrabel was a TD and play threat. And they were good with the running game and slants/screen plays. Its a real shame that they didn't win that final game - goes to show how hard it is to win.
There were only 4 or 5 QBs in the history of the league with the football IQ to effectively run this offense the way the Pats did. Brady, Manning, Breese and Rodgers. Reading coverages, leverage & alignment before & AFTER the snap, using cadence & motion to expose the defense & understanding & dictating protection, & effective pocket movement to help your blockers is a lost art.
I would make the argument that colts also did these things from at least 04 onwards. It was stated here, but I feel Colts did more innovation here and pats just studied and improved it. The colts did move away from this offense a bit more as they would move the ball too fast and the defense would get crushed being on the field so much. The colts purposely pulled back their offense with more clock control. I do agree the pats had better weapons this year to make it work better in 07.
I kinda agree but also slot receiver position has evolved even after his retirement. Run blocking is a premium to play that position so you can't be 5'9" 185lbs to survive long term playing that position. Even Cooper Kupp whose the ideal size to play that position now is struggling to stay consistent the last two seasons with how the age/hits have been adding up for him.
People aren’t gonna like this but Pat is better because of his legs. When things go wrong for Brady it’s over most of the time. When things go wrong for Pat most of the time the play is just beginning.
I miss and prefer the old style. Just my opinion, it's what I grew up on. But people before me hated the pure west coast and Coryell offenses that I grew up with.
They didn't change anything. They just proved, once again, proved previously by the '85 Bears, that an ultra dominant defensive lines can Trump any offense. Of course, it's hard to assemble such a line.
great video really shows why having a smart qb is always the best shifting lines protection to open better throwing alleys isnt something mobile qbs even know to do
There will never be another team like this in this era not even the Chiefs, it's quite obvious the NFL Rigged the game for them to Win to make them look invincible it's so Disgusting I remember back in the 80's & 90's when Football was actually Football fair competition, real rivals a more balanced now everything is all about $$ who gets paid the most the Love of the game is Dead.💯🌎🌍
The media continues to ignore the severe high ankle sprain Brady had leading up to the Super Bowl where he was in a boot for two weeks. He clearly couldn’t move that night. The Chargers were the real MVP. There’s no excuse for the 2011 matchup though.
Injuries are a part of the game. Get over it. There have been many many championship worthy rosters that got destoryed by injuries. Patriot fans are something else. Imagine being a lions fan and the first super bowl caliber squad completely derailed by injuries.
In the 80s the Dolphins used a lot of shotgun on first and 2nd down and the Redskins used a bunch of 11 personnel. The Patriots didn't do anything new and they never did RPO which is all over the NFL right now and the first truly successful implementation of that was by the Eagles and they used it to beat the Patriots in the Superbowl. The Patriots are guilty of having the best players.. particularly in 2007. They ultimately lost to a 9-7 team, Plexico Burress predicted that Patriots would score 14 points. Brady laughed at that but that was all they put up that day.
I'm glad you managed to pay attention to the point where I said they didnt invent anything Endless scroll has truly ruined the worlds ability to pay attention and take in infomation
Just imagine this offense in today's soft era of Football. The Giant won in the Super Bowl because they were allowed to play defense. A rematch between those 2 teams with today's officiating would be a complete blowout.
Mehn, i sincerely miss Brady and P.Manning's intelligent QB playmaking. QBs today are too mechanical, plus rules making things easy for them. All they wanna do is play like RBs. That's why no matter what happens down the line, Brady (will always be the Goat 🐐 for me) and P.Manning, the best QBs in NFL history. They both played the position the way it was supposed to be played.
New England was pretty one dimensional all they did was lob it to randy moss. Once randy moss started to slip during the playoffs and toward the end of the season that’s when you started to see cracks. While randy moss started off the season on fire he was not really able to sustain that same type of momentum later in the season. Even then though their were many games were New England struggled particularly the colts and ravens game were they had to win by the skin of their teeth the ravens in this case thanks to some controversial calls. The patriots weren’t smart enough to draft a true running back to take some heat off the passing game. Lawrence Maroney was too inconsistent but Joseph Addai or Maurice Jones Drew would have been what they needed.
Welker was clutch *during the regular season.* Not so much in that year's playoff - especially the Superbowl. I'll take Edelman over Welker on every day that ends in 'y.' I can think of two superbowls that Pat's wouldn't have won without Edelman in the game (Second Rams SB & The Comeback vs Falcons.)
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If the situation with Aaron Hernandez hadn't gone down the way it did, I believe the Patriots double tight end set would have changed football forever.
This is still my favourite patriots offense
The ability to switch in and out of heavy and empty in that 12 personnel set destroyed teams - they just had no answers for it
@@ThinkingFootballSB46 is so much worse for me because of this. I could accept the greatest Cinderella run in football history, especially since they only lost 35-38 against that same team a month earlier. Patriots just crumbled in 46 and had so many chances to put it away and just couldn't get it done.
Gronk getting hurt in the AFC Championship game and only being a decoy really stagnated the offense
Also that defense was just out of resources by the time it got there
Man underrated comment. Really truly could have. The ability to go heavy, but yet still dominate the pass game would be even MORE applicable in today's NFL.
I don't think that there are enough TEs of that caliber in the league to really run in 12 personnel like the patriots were able to. Gronk was the best tight end of his generation and Aaron hernandez wasn't too far behind him from a pure talent standpoint. They had lightning in a bottle with those 2, and they really were only able to get both of them because gronk missed his last year in college with back surgery and Aaron hernandez was a psychopath
When Moss scored his first TD Brady said and I quote “ This will be a fun season”
I remember watching that TD and thinking, here we go!
I was at near every home game this season. I remember midway through the season when the excited cheers half transformed into laughter with Brady to Moss because it felt so inevitable. The defense was throwing everything and it didn't matter. Moss was the big picture catalyst here. He could take a nap on the field and safeties would still have been way off the LOS. It opened everything up for Welker and Faulk. If the D slipped and left Moss alone, Brady instantly ignored everyone else and forced the ball to Moss. On the occasion that they would force it to him in double/triple coverage just to remind the defense they had forgotten about him, Moss frequently won those, too.
Greatest receiver of all time IMO.
Eli Manning says hi
The ultimate 'gun to a knife fight' type season.
Styles make fights
Brady just forgot to get out of range of the knife in the last game.
This channel is probably the top 2 or 3 football breakdowns/explainer/concepts anywhere. Selfishly I would love a video showing spags progression a d-coordinator from this 07 giants team to his 2024 chiefs team. What's the same, what's new, and how has has progressed and become one of the best ever.
Would love to see even more of an in depth video, adding on why it didn't work as a head coach too.
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Simply the best channel to bring the complexity - hence the beauty - of the game to understandable, and, more importantly, immensely enjoyable level to the layman. Thank you for your great work.
Great video. Looking back this patriots offense not only put up historic numbers but did it on some of the best defensive minds of this century. Spags, Rex Ryan, Jim Johnson, Wade Phillips, Lebeau, Romeo Crennel, Marvin Lewis, Jack Del Rio, Tony Dungy. Really puts into perspective how dominate this offense was.
At this point in the nfl offenses were well ahead of defenses
@10:13 that play action on the goal line was nasty. Moss's casual walk at the snap to sell a run block into a quick burst and release inside was beautiful. that DB was cooked within 2 feet of the LoS
He did that for 3/4 slant TDs that year, monster
I've re-watched that play at least 20 times now, thank you for pointing that out lol
This is why Brian Flores is a great defensive coordinator, he's basically a Spag impersonator with the fake blitzes.
The NFL let you have this footage?!? Hopefully the SEC changes their tune. So ready for your scouting and draft videos. You're the best channel and helping me learn so much about the X's and O's of the game. I'm a former hoops prodigy and football is still a new game to me
Yes sir - We are making a few videos with them, mostly focusing on retro breakdowns
I doubt the SEC will change their mind anytime soon but we can hope
Welker, Edelman. Patriots have been fortunate eith lethal route running, clutch and tough slot recievers
This was the first season where I really realized Brady was really special. I knew he was great before this, one of the best in the league. But this was where the elite decision making that had made him a star when he first started playing was really combined with his incredible passing ability. Sure he was always accurate, and he'd hit tight windows and deep balls from time to time, but in this season it felt like he was money every time. Every time he dropped back you were expecting a first down, if not a TD. Brady's arm strength was incredible. Not necessarily his deep ball, which was good in it's own right, but he threw so freaking hard. Especially over the middle or on those quick outs and curls. I've never really seen anything like it, before or since. There's been guys who've clocked faster throws, but Brady's were so consistently that way, and it seemed like he never missed. And not just that they were always catchable, but they were catchable in the best way possible. If it's a tight window, it's going to be right in the spot where only the receiver can get it. If there's run after catch opportunity, the ball is going to lead the receiver into space. It was perfection.
Yes to this day Brady still has the 3rd fastest throw of all time and he did it when he was 44
The Pats were a buzz saw that season…offensive juggernaut…but the down four the Giants had was ferocious on pass rush…Spags is the modern day Belichick when he was defensive coordinator for Giants back in the day
Spags I feel got overshadowed during BB/Pats near two decade run at the top. He thwarted BB TWICE on two of his SB trips with great talents on defense.
This video is so good! Def gonna try to use some of these schemes simplified down for our pop warner team next season!
Last season we started in the basic I-Form and Pro-Form, but were able to expand after a few games. We got lucky and had a smart QB that can throw, so we were one of the only teams that was able to have success passing.
We started in the splitback shotgun for extra blockers, but ended up having more success spreading it out with an adapted air raid kinda deal.
Post_wheel, Seams, and Waggle were our best plays mixed with like some Jet Sweeps and started trying to mix in some motions.
Of course we also ran the ball about 40% of the time too w the basic run plays- Dive, Off-Tackle or really Power/Duo but no guard pulling, and then the HB Toss to the strong and weak side.
It took a few games to find our groove but once we did I felt like we were as good as any team in our division and won almost all our games the 2nd half of the season.
Def watched some of your videos during last season too!
What do u think the best playbook is for like 11u Youth Football? Maybe one for not having a QB and for having a QB that can throw...
9:24 "A vertical soul stealer"! 😤 Yep. The man's last name became a VERB associated with a spectacular catch over the defender 🙌
4:20 "They've got Randy Moss in the slot on this one" #DefenseIsCookedAlready✌️The 07 Pats with Brady, Welker, and Moss were a cheat code 🤷♂️ It was GLORIOUS 🙌
Congrats on one of the most well put and spoke out videos I’ve seen on football . Loved watching this patriots team even as a Steelers fan. They were just that team … then came the wild card G men
Seeing the field at 1:14 and NOT having the QB run it in feels so foreign nowadays. Giving a QB that much room in the red zone is wild, even if he runs a 5.2 or whatever
That’s bc there were consequences. They don’t show the footage of McNabb, Vick, Vince young & others getting smacked up when they ran but it happened 😂
@@deez9805 For real, I don't like QBs being protected runners. It doesn't feel fair.
The ability of the Giants to win with 4 changed the numbers game that other teams couldn't. They could pressure without sacrificing numbers in coverage.
This was actually he backdrop that allowed Spags to do Spafs things with Blitzes. It made extra rushers more effective, and made Brady's eye levels and processing have to constantly shift. It kept him and the receivers off time and out of rythym.
I think without the dominant front 4, the Blitzes may not have worked.
It is one of the few times that Bill was out coached in the playoffs. Even though the run was not very effective, averaging only 2.9 ypc, they should have used it more. Stuck with it. It would have allowed them to keep the pass rush honest and give Brady more looks at the defense.
Nah patriots just weren’t talented enough or good enough. Impossible to win when you are a loser team.
Goes to show the type of D-line talents needed to make the elite QBs feel shook in the pocket. And ultimately where the Jimmys and Joes are going to beat the Xs and Os.
nah I think NE was definitely more talented.Spags just had a good plan
I totally forgot there used to be a ref behind the middle LB. It seems insane nowadays, and annoying for a QB trying to throw in the middle of the field.
Great video I love actual film breakdowns with schemes illustrated. Thanks. This whole offense was the epitome of pick your poison. Wes, moss, Watson. All of them working together to get the other man open.
"Insane", "Unstoppable", "Unguardable" etc are all grossly overused, but they are completely justified for Randy Moss. His combination of skills was and remains without compare. Extreme high-end ability in pretty much every possible area. He is, frankly, the most talented player at any position to ever play the game of football and easily yore most effective scoring weapon. Even a bit past his prime, pairing him with Brady was a true joke. Moss caught 23 TD while sitting out numerous 2nd halves, had a few called back for phantom OPI (Dallas, Philly games) that was more of a mercy call from officials. Hell, Randy even defeated the Giants Hail Mary coverage at the very end of the Super Bowl, the ball was just a tad late...the amount of coverage Moss received in the playoffs rivaled the OJ Simpson trial.
I’m in my 40’s and this is the greatest team I’ve ever seen. I fully believe had they not played the giants at the end of the regular season, they would have beaten them in the Super Bowl and made history. Playing them in the regular season gave them the game plan to beat them
Its not like its a big secret if your front 4 dominate the line of scrimmage the offense is going to struggle. Eagles almost beat the patriots too. At the end of the day the giants defence matched up very well vs the patriots offense, you dont need a "blueprint" in these instances, just team performance
the best team in NFL history in my book. Unreal watching this team live.
I had a sneaky suspicion that even with a 07 Pats/Brady in the thumbnail that Spags was going to make a cameo. That Giants pass rush talent in the front 4 were playing like absolute maniacs by the playoffs. So as Brady and the pass game were ascending in January so did Strahan, Osi and Justin Tuck spear heading that pass rush.
I've been a Pats fan all my life, I was too young to remember this season, but when I learned about it, I was proud of them, even if they didnt win SB 42.
That 2007 Patriots team had at least 5 HOF defense players
This was a great video! This Patriots team always fascinated me by how dominant they were during the regular season, but were able to be outsmarted in the final game. Thanks for including the Giants gameplan, as well.
Also, loved how you first broke down how challenging the concepts were to stop, but also had a dedicated section on how the specific talented players they had made the gameplan as unstoppable as it was. Made it clear that your scheme can only go as far as the personnel can take it.
Great video! I miss that football 🏈. Pats so good. A machine. So fun to watch! Teams are just not dominating like they did. I subscribed.
High quality. Thank you.
Like you said, a lot of this stuff is pretty normal now. But in 2007 this stuff was DIABOLICAL.
Love this. Awesome breakdown, and what a team
First video I've watched of yours. Really awesome content! I'm hooked.
Great quality video. Very engaging.
This is the greatest team of all time, with the greatest moment and lesson all time
I love Welker, but he flinched when Chancellor lit him up
One of *exceedingly* few teams to average over a field goal per drive.
Still hurt this team lost 😂
I'm not a Patriots fan, but the '07 Patriots are one of my favorite teams of all time. I loved the Moss redemption after wasting away on the Raiders, and the Pats were so futuristic that year.
This is the era when I started to get into football, but it feels weird seeing the umpire lined up behind the middle linebacker. He’s gotta be agile, head on a swivel.
People say this is when Brady became "elite" but imo he always had this talent. He would have shined a lot sooner stat wise if the Pats actually gave him WRs. No offense but Dion Branch being your best receiver before 07 says a lot. Imagine if Brady had Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne early in his career.
There is more to an offense than passing. WRs are the last piece to the puzzle that you add. A QBs best friend is an effective run game, not a great WR talent. And brady always had an effective run game.
He was without a doubt a game manager to start his career. There is no shame in it. It takes the vast majority of QBs a few years to figure it out, rodgers is another good example of this. The peytons mahomes and marinos of the nfl world are the outliers
NFL - "Sure we'll lend you footage!"
SEC - "How dare you show anything about our players!"
I don't get it man
So this is like NFL version of the 2016 Warriors. Damn what an offense
Has the Patriots fan myself though this offense was definitely generational and change the landscape of offenses in the NFL.
It's not without its weaknesses and the New York Giants in Super Bowl 42 definitely exposed it, though I hated it at the time I can't help but respect the New York Giants game plan against this Dynamic offense
great stuff. if you could, it would be nice if you make a video about the resurgence of the running game and the pistol pony formation stuff that we saw this season haha
We talked about the Insert Concept and this seasons run game a few videos ago
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13:03 is just so clean to watch
Based on strength of schedule, and relative to league offensive performance, the '07 Pats are by far the greatest offense in NFL history. No one, not Denver in '13, the Chiefs, the Greatest Show on Turf, the late 80's Niners, or other older teams, are even close.
Blah blah the 2013 Broncos scored more. The 07 Patriots schedule was not harder, cry harder, lost the scoring record only 6 yrs later after 2 SBs. Friggin patriot fans still salty, trying to call their lost season the best offense ever, completely dismantled by NYG. Even Jay Alford got a sack in.
@WalterWhiteFootballSharing OSRS says the Patriots were far better. Like, it's not even close
@@WalterWhiteFootballSharing how you gonna say the 13 Broncos were better, based party on how they performed in the playoffs, when wet-fart-noodle-arm, literally on welfare disability Peyton Manning put up 8 points in a SB that they lost by 33
I believe it. They did it against strong regular season teams and several top 5 defenses. It was ridiculous how good they were.
They played in an absolutely terrible division
They are incredibly overrated
We need a video on how the giants were able to contain this offense or is the explanation that strahan and tuck were just beasts?
I will say, as far as Manning's Colts beating the '07 Pats to "11 personnel" - before they were doing it, the '98 Vikings feasted using 11 personnel.
Brady looks like Dexter Morgan in that thumbnail
The 07 patriots cheated. That's why the couldn't score in the superbowl. The giants figured it out and beat them.
Brady already had 3 super bowls. He was a star for years before this
Great channel great breakdown love it but so basically you’re saying he still Manning’s offense when he retired right was he retired at this time? I don’t know😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
This Tom Brady guy looks pretty good
Can you do a retro scout of Ed Reed?
It helps that teams would always dedicate two people to Randy Moss.
I like your show.
.. i am a giant fan. do a giants defense break down against either patriot SB or bellichek against the bills. Offense wins games, defense wins championships.
I think the SB 46 mvp shouldve been steve weatherford. Im not kidding. Brady never started outside his own 20.
Edit: 9:53 megatron all day.
This is the offense Andy Reid has been copying with the Chiefs for the last 6yrs.
Lol. This is pure copium. Defences are significantly different today than 15+ years ago. Cheifs did not have the personel to even run this kind of offense after tyreek
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You said after Tyreek. Sooo you agree and now it’s a modified version.
Might wanna edit you comment
@@omegakilo871 nope, just a simple observation to instantly show how wrong you are.
Modified version of what? The colts offense in 04? Greatest show on turf? Miami and dan marinos run and gun offense?
Pats originated nothing, dude in the video mentioned that more than once.
You pats fans love to bend over backwards to justify your hero worship. Always funny to watch
@@123payattention
Listen kiddo, you watch way too much ESPN and put too much stock into what ur drunk uncle says.
Believe what you want and you can feel whatever way you want.
You clearly blabber until blue in the face
Facts don’t care about your feelings.
LFG!!!..💪🏼
This video is pretty good.
But. There are some serious over blown areas and not coverage of some key areas that matter.
Out of the back field - Kevin Faulk was an absolute weapon and if the down field started getting choked - the options here were real.
Mike Vrabel was a TD and play threat.
And they were good with the running game and slants/screen plays.
Its a real shame that they didn't win that final game - goes to show how hard it is to win.
Awesome!
There were only 4 or 5 QBs in the history of the league with the football IQ to effectively run this offense the way the Pats did. Brady, Manning, Breese and Rodgers. Reading coverages, leverage & alignment before & AFTER the snap, using cadence & motion to expose the defense & understanding & dictating protection, & effective pocket movement to help your blockers is a lost art.
Mate that list could be 3-4x longer
I would make the argument that colts also did these things from at least 04 onwards. It was stated here, but I feel Colts did more innovation here and pats just studied and improved it.
The colts did move away from this offense a bit more as they would move the ball too fast and the defense would get crushed being on the field so much.
The colts purposely pulled back their offense with more clock control. I do agree the pats had better weapons this year to make it work better in 07.
People forget how good Wes Welker was. I feel like he doesn't get the love that he deserves because he played with Brady for most of his career.
I kinda agree but also slot receiver position has evolved even after his retirement. Run blocking is a premium to play that position so you can't be 5'9" 185lbs to survive long term playing that position. Even Cooper Kupp whose the ideal size to play that position now is struggling to stay consistent the last two seasons with how the age/hits have been adding up for him.
There was plenty of great undefeated teams this year too until they ran into the patriots
People are already missing The Pats.
Now do one on the giants team that beat them.
No
They had a wicked defense
4:28 "The backer can't carry this" 😅
One of the greatest Sports teams ever! Could’ve been the Greatest had they won the Super Bowl
People aren’t gonna like this but Pat is better because of his legs. When things go wrong for Brady it’s over most of the time. When things go wrong for Pat most of the time the play is just beginning.
I miss and prefer the old style. Just my opinion, it's what I grew up on. But people before me hated the pure west coast and Coryell offenses that I grew up with.
I think it's cool the nfl let you use this. Do you have any clue how to get college film?
How did you get this footage?
How did you find such DREADFUL music?
Next vid should be what did the Giants do to negate this
The real reason the Pats lost the SB was because Asante Samuel dropped that INT the play before the Tyree catch
You might as well do video on how they lost to the Giants in the Superbowl.
Best team I ever seen
Just one game and a little bad luck
Dont forget to talk about the taping of opposing teams practices 😂
Great video. The patriot glazer comments never disappoint
13:42 When Brady runs up and blocks the dt on the reverse... Nowadays that would be a penalty on the defense lol
They didn't change anything. They just proved, once again, proved previously by the '85 Bears, that an ultra dominant defensive lines can Trump any offense. Of course, it's hard to assemble such a line.
great video really shows why having a smart qb is always the best shifting lines protection to open better throwing alleys isnt something mobile qbs even know to do
He said he wants to compete for a sb , ravens is not on his list lmao
The league has now moved to double tights and power running as defenses moved to speed to stop the spread formationa
There will never be another team like this in this era not even the Chiefs, it's quite obvious the NFL Rigged the game for them to Win to make them look invincible it's so Disgusting I remember back in the 80's & 90's when Football was actually Football fair competition, real rivals a more balanced now everything is all about $$ who gets paid the most the Love of the game is Dead.💯🌎🌍
What if they had a running game?
It was called Wes Welker quick screens
The media continues to ignore the severe high ankle sprain Brady had leading up to the Super Bowl where he was in a boot for two weeks. He clearly couldn’t move that night. The Chargers were the real MVP. There’s no excuse for the 2011 matchup though.
How you gonna call others out for ignoring Ankle injuries and then forget Gronk went down with a way more severe High ankle sprain in 2011?
@@ThinkingFootball I was referring to Tom Brady.
Injuries are a part of the game. Get over it. There have been many many championship worthy rosters that got destoryed by injuries. Patriot fans are something else. Imagine being a lions fan and the first super bowl caliber squad completely derailed by injuries.
In the 80s the Dolphins used a lot of shotgun on first and 2nd down and the Redskins used a bunch of 11 personnel.
The Patriots didn't do anything new and they never did RPO which is all over the NFL right now and the first truly successful implementation of that was by the Eagles and they used it to beat the Patriots in the Superbowl.
The Patriots are guilty of having the best players.. particularly in 2007.
They ultimately lost to a 9-7 team, Plexico Burress predicted that Patriots would score 14 points. Brady laughed at that but that was all they put up that day.
I'm glad you managed to pay attention to the point where I said they didnt invent anything
Endless scroll has truly ruined the worlds ability to pay attention and take in infomation
Just imagine this offense in today's soft era of Football. The Giant won in the Super Bowl because they were allowed to play defense. A rematch between those 2 teams with today's officiating would be a complete blowout.
So what you're saying is this is gonna be the playbook for Drake Maye? But with less talent???
How did you get all 22 of the 07 pats?
The NFL gave it to me
@ good stuff hate we can't even get game broadcasts from 08 and before and then add in all 22 we'd pay for
18-1. Almost perfect 😂
Man this teams superbowl ring mustve been SICK......wait...😂🤡
So they're to blame! Get there with 4 go Giants!
Mehn, i sincerely miss Brady and P.Manning's intelligent QB playmaking. QBs today are too mechanical, plus rules making things easy for them. All they wanna do is play like RBs. That's why no matter what happens down the line, Brady (will always be the Goat 🐐 for me) and P.Manning, the best QBs in NFL history. They both played the position the way it was supposed to be played.
New England was pretty one dimensional all they did was lob it to randy moss. Once randy moss started to slip during the playoffs and toward the end of the season that’s when you started to see cracks. While randy moss started off the season on fire he was not really able to sustain that same type of momentum later in the season. Even then though their were many games were New England struggled particularly the colts and ravens game were they had to win by the skin of their teeth the ravens in this case thanks to some controversial calls.
The patriots weren’t smart enough to draft a true running back to take some heat off the passing game. Lawrence Maroney was too inconsistent but Joseph Addai or Maurice Jones Drew would have been what they needed.
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N A S T Y
Coulda Shoulda Woulda
How good would Brady be at madden if he took it seriously for 2 weeks
Madden punishes you for actually playing the game like a real quarterback, the game would disappoint Brady.
That's like asking how good an ace fighter pilot would be at Ace Combat.
Welker was clutch *during the regular season.* Not so much in that year's playoff - especially the Superbowl. I'll take Edelman over Welker on every day that ends in 'y.' I can think of two superbowls that Pat's wouldn't have won without Edelman in the game (Second Rams SB & The Comeback vs Falcons.)
You're thinking of 2011 - Welker was excellent in the playoffs in 07