Why did Paul want to go to Spain?
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Starting from Pentecost and the Book of Acts we see how the gospel is reaching every place in the Table of Nations in Genesis 10, except Tarsis, which is Spain. Paul repeatedly says that he wants to reach Spain because he sees his mission as the rescue of the disinherited nations. Check this out!
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Forsure, this bit of information is like finding treasure. I certainly overlooked it when I read Acts.
This is also prophesied in Is 66:19 "I will perform a mighty act among them and then send some of those who remain to the nations-to Tarshish, Pul,[ Lud, (known for its archers, Tubal, Javan,[an] and to the distant coastlands[ao] that have not heard about me or seen my splendor.
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He's right. I've heard Acts 2 sermonized a hundred times but never heard it like that!
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Then you haven't listened to that much Heiser because he has frankly disgusting Catholophobia in his analysis - and I'm Protestant.
@@darkknightsdsI've listened to a lot. Haven't heard him say bad stuff about Catholicism yet. And I've said pretty "bad" things myself about Pope Francis, so that I finally got banned from a Catholic Discord.
@darkknightsds you baby PROTESTANTS are still in diapers. Baby Christians. Don't and Still don't understand the early church and early Father's. We're the Bishops appears there let the people be.. just as where JESUS CHRIST IS there is THE CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH. St. Ignatius of Antioch 107 AD. Before any protestant baby denomination. It was the Catholic church. Common. Its basic early church history. 🫶🏻✝️🕊🙏🏻📿⛪️🔥🍷🍞🫡
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Great stuff. Just wish the modern church would open its eyes and see the huge blind spot it has when it comes to the gospel. The gospel Paul was determined to preach throughout the world was almost completely opposite of the "personal salvation" gospel we preach today. As Heiser endlessly pointed out, Paul's gospel was all about announcing AND demonstrating the power of God's kingdom, which is always a direct threat to the rule of the gods of the nations. We today think evangelism is simply getting people to say a sinner's prayer, and then signing them up to a doctrinal statement.
The apostles were not murdered for preaching that kind of gospel.
Serious question, not being a jerk, what do you think our preaching of the gospel should consist of today?
@@grbggaming6885 Look at the book of Acts and do what they did... (1) Announce the good news of the kingdom of God (that God's rule & reign has begun & Satan and the fallen gods have been evicted), and (2) demonstrate the power of it through signs, wonders, healings, resurrections, deliverance. Doing that will surely result in persecution, but it will just as assuredly result in the conversion of the masses. I don't see that as the emphasis in our Laodicean churches.
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I think Paul did make it to Spain. In 1 Clement we read, "Because of jealousy and strife Paul showed the way to the prize for patient endurance. After he had been seven times in chains, had been driven into exile, he had been stoned, and had preached in the east and in the west, he won the genuine glory for his faith, having taught righteousness to the whole world and having reached the farthest limits of the west (τερμα της δυσεως). 1 Clem 5:5-7.
Christ gave his three most cherished and precious things to his three favorite / leading apostles: The Church to Peter, his Mother to John, and Spain to James
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I mean iberian ham is the best ham in the world I don't blame Paul wanting to go!!
😂 I'm only kidding. Miss the late Dr. Heiser. Wish his works would get translated for spanish readers someday.
Translating and explaining myself can only get me so far having the book translated would be a lot easier.
I meant to say translated and printed. I know they're available on Logos but not everyone can afford it or isn't a scholar who needs it.
I was going to say something about tapas 😆!
@@Telorchid Tapas and bit of spanish 🍷 is always a good way to go !!
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Yes, Paul of Tarsus / Tarshish (deliberate association of names) went to Spain, as both 1Clement and the Muratorian fragment testify. Paul himself knew that the Gospel had covered the Romano-Hellenistic world of that age, and that the only free direction was west -- foreshadowing, as the Apostle to the Gentiles, the historical western path of the Gospel to great Gentile nations. After Spain, he returned, making arrangements through men like Titus and Timothy, for the ordaining of Evangelists, the successors to the Apostles, and setting out, in the so-called Pastoral Epistles, the constitution of New Testament churches etc.
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“Well I’ve never been to Spain, but I kinda like the music.” Maybe Paul was a Three Dog Night fan!
Not just for the food. The wine, the climate, the nightlife, the girls , and the laid back lifestyle were all factors.
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Are all these excerpts from the school videos? Which part exactly and how can I get it?
I always just assumed he wanted to bring them the Gospel and plant a church.
During the Babel incident, God stepped back and handed us over to the sons of God, which in context and proper translation can only me the bene ha elohim or angels in our common parlance. They were the gods of the nations. It is they who've ruled behind human leaders and rulers ever since. Psalm 82:7 and the Divine Council passages show how God the Father essentially indicts these rebel elohim for their crimes and terrible stewardship of the earth and mankind. He tells them they will suffer death as does man. We remember these beings were created immortal, but after their indictment by God and his Divine Council, they would now suffer death at some future point in time. Deuteronomy 32 worldview plays very heavily into this and truly goes back to Enoch, the 7th from Adam and great grandfather to Noah. In his days the Watchers chose for themselves wives from among the daugthers of men and from this abominable union came the nephilim or giants. Huge narrative and goes all the way to the Cross. Dr. Heiser is my go to guy for all things supernatural in the bible.
Perhaps Paul did make it to Spain, but we have no record.
Agabus prophesied to Paul that if he went to Jerusalem that he would go no further. Looks like he could have listened to the prophecy & gone on a cruise vs. go south & shorten his ministry..
@@jebgohome He could have. But to play armchair psychologist, there was probably a part of Paul that didn't want to shy away from it because he felt he deserved it after everything he put the Church through before his conversion.
Oh, but we do. Read the 29th Chapter of Acts. It chronicles Pa'al's (Paul's) journey to Spain and then into Britain.
@@bradhuckins1637Acts 29 is a forgery
Spain is where a large group of first temple diaspora were hanging out. I also assume the Jews, initially at least, followed others who dispersed before them.
Spanish food is pretty good though
Apostle Paul be like: Its not about foods, its about sending a Message 😂😂😂😂
Maybe you said this and I missed it. But from what I understand in books outside of the bible they do say that Paul did end up going to Spain before he was killed.
He knew, the Lord has chosen Spain for the near future, our present
This lends credence to acts chapter 29 then.
Why did Peter want to go to New York?
Well, I can tell you, he would have enjoyed the food: tortilla española, morcilla, chorizo, lentejas, butifarras, cocidos, jamón serrano, jamón ibérico, paella, gazpacho. ¡Viva España! Well, at least St James made it!
Because many of the ten tribes of the house of Israel had scattered there hundreds of years before.
Did he not die in Rome?
Paul wasn't planning to die in Rome but get relief from the Jews false claims against him.
And then proceed to Spain.
Yes. But later. Released in 61 C.E, but then re-imprisoned after the great fire of Rome in 64 C.E.
The first time Paul was at Rome, it was more like he was in Witness protection. That sort of "house arrest". The Jews were trying to kill him. So he appealed to Caesar.
The second time he's in Rome, it's because Nero is blaming Christians for the fire, scape-goating them, so he makes an example of both Peter and Paul.
Church tradition has John Mark interpreting/transcribing Peter's address to the Equestrian class in Rome, which becomes the Gospel of Mark. After Peter and Paul are martyred in Rome under Nero, according to North African (esp. Coptic) tradition, Mark returns to his native North Africa (Libya) where he plants two churches before being martyred in Alexandria. (And Paul DID complete his trip to Hispania/Spain before returning to Rome, where he was executed.)
He had two arrests it is unknown if he made it to Spain
Does anyone know if this video ties to any of the Naked Bible Podcast episodes and if so, which?
Paul is a Herodian and Herod was in Spain of course.
Did any of the Apostles go to Arabia?
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Was Tarsus Tarshish?
No, Tarsus is located in Turkey. I believe that's still the name of the place when I last stopped over.
Tarshish was the ancient name of Spain.
Note that at the time Paul wanted to go to Spain, it was not called Spain as the Germanic Spanish tribes had not invaded Spain yet. At the time paul planned to go to Spain, only 3 people's lived there, the Basques in upper north west and Hebrews (Jews) and Phoenicians. Cordoba, ascalona, Toledo and many other cities were Jewish cities built by Jews.
It's called the Iberian peninsula after the first Hebrew iber, or the Hebrew peninsula.
The entire Roman empire was 20% Jewish. Israel was largest center of Jews, about 7 million. Next was Asia minor or now called turkey of about 3 million Jews. Third was what we call Spain also about 3 million Jews. Paul wanted to bring the gospel to third largest Jewish area. God stopped it. Why ? Those Jews were reserved to stay Jews for the state of Israel in 1948 and today are about 30% of all Jews in Israel. Without them coming in 1950s to Israel, Israel would have fallen. As far as salvation, Jesus has the keys to the grave for these people. God's big picture is far bigger than the picture to most of us and even all of us at times.
Spain existed 2000 years ago???
Not at all as a country but it was already called Hispania from the second century before Christ. Hispania is the originial word written in greek, now translated as Spain.
Hi from Spain by the way lol.
@@JTomas96 pensaba que el nombre Hispania era más reciente
@@oscaralegre3683 Para mi sorpresa, según la tradición irlandesa los antepasados de los verdaderos irlandeses vinieron de Oriente, luego se mezclaron en egipto y pararon en Galicia, España. Se hacían llamar los Galos. Por eso Galicia. Su diosa era Espaine que los irlandeses pronuncian como España, incluso la "ñ" xD. Entonces los hijos de Mil Espaine llegaron a Irlanda y la conquistaron de las manos de los Tuatha de Dan. Algunos dicen que su diosa Dan, Danu o Dannan era el nombre de la tribu de Dan que no aparece en el apocalipsis debido a que se fueron a los ídolos y ocultismo. Lo cual queda perfecto con los de la tribu de Dan. Muchos dicen que los pueblos Dan-eses vienen de ellos. Y que muchos nombres de ríos como Dan-uvio o Din, o incluso London que en inglés las vocales se alteran vendrían de ahí. London sería "Andonada de Dan". También se dice que la diosa Diana era Dannan. Y que los dioses de europa antiguos no eran más que ángeles caídos engañando a la humanidad.
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En cuanto a Tarshis siendo el Sur de Hispania tiene cierto sentido ya que hay registros y pruebas físicas de una tribu casi mítica y tenemos ciertos registros de unos tales "Tartessos" o "tarsos".
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Poco a poco vemos como la verdad se asoma tras los mitos. Que no serían más que el conocimiento popular pero corrompiéndose con el tiempo. En Galicia la gente va con gaitas y sidra. Y tenemos hasta rocas con runas. Ahí lo dejo. Si Pablo llegó a España por que eran los últimos en ese tiempo del mundo conocido entonces lo compro. Por que desde mi punto de vista los galos del sur de francia y norte de españa y de irlanda no eran más que las castas de los ricos que tenían su religión ocultista conocida como paganismo. España es un país bizarro. Sólo piensa en los vascos.
@@JTomas96 madre mía, me estas dando tanta información que no sabía que me cuesta mucho procesarlo. Pero es una historia impresionante
@@oscaralegre3683 ¿A que sí? Ves y estúdialo por tí mismo, es impresionante. Está escrito en el Libro de las Crónicas de irlanda. Y de los tartessos no se sabe casi nada son muy misteriosos.
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Snorri Sturlurson, el famoso islandés que recogió la mayoría de mitología nórdica dfe su época, dijo esto sobre el panteón de los dioses Aesir:
Son llamados Æssyr por que Æssyr es la palabra del islandés para "Asirio". La civilización humana comienza en Sumeria(Asiria) como los mismos historiadores comentan. La gaita se encuentra antes en Sumeria, luego en España Y LUEGO EN IRLANDA. EN ESE ORDEN. Estos ángeles fueron llegados a ser creídos como dioses por las tribus europeas y el mundo conocido. Cada uno tuvo un nombre por ejemplo Júpiter era Zeus en griego. Júpiter llegó a escapar de su hijo y se refugió en el norte de Italia en el que fue llamado Júpiter. (No eran titanes ni nada por el estilo sino hombres glorificados como Gandalf en el señor de los anillos). En la biblia se le describen como los Nephilim mal traducido como gigantes. Y como Snorri dijo se casaron con muchas mujeres y les enseñaron ocultismo. De ahí la simbología de la serpiente y Eva. Estas castas se convertirían en lo que conocemos como nobles y Reyes. Por eso el dragón en sus heráldicas y banderas por que como dice la biblia "La Serpiente antigua, el Dragón o Satanás que engaña al Mundo entero". -Snorri no lo dice pero sería la Quetzacoatl o Dragón chino. - En fin totalmente impresionante. Y como die la biblia "Y vieron LOS HIJOS DE DIOS A LAS MUJERES QUE ERAN BELLAS, Y SE CASARON Y LES NACIERON NEPHILIM".
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(Está escrito en la introducción a la Edda prosaica, no confundir con la poética)
Por desgracia nos quedamos en la Edda poética o en los mitos poéticos que se acercan más a un ridículo cómic de Marvel-
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Hijos de Dios por que cuando Jesucristo obtiene un cuerpo glorificado, restaura la imagen caída del hombre, que eran estos ángeles o semidioses. Por eso en la biblia en salmo 82 dice: "Dios está en la reunión de los dioses(Elohim en hebreo sólo significa ser metafísico, horrible traducción aunque mientras sea dios con d minúscula como hablaban los paganos no hay problema); En medio de los dioses juzga." Entonces los reprende y dice: "Yo dije: Vosotros sois dioses, Y todos vosotros hijos del Altísimo; Pero como hombres moriréis,". Y entonces dice "Levántate o Jehová por que tú heredarás la tierra". La hereda el hijo, por que del padre es evidente que ya es la tierra, el hijo también es llamado Jehová igual que Eva es llamada Adán en génesis 1:26. Por que son un Ser.
Por eso en génesis 1 dice "Hagamos al hombre a nuestra imágen". El genesis 1 es un resumen de los siete días no literales de la creación (Cada Día son mil años) mientras que el primer Adán sería el formado y no creado en Génesis 2. Formado por que ya existiría en espíritu desde la eternidad. Sí, la biblia técnicamente comienza en génesis 2 verso 4.
Whoa, Spain became the leader in colonization
So, did Paul die in Spain, his last mission? Also, there seems to be no passage in the book of Acts that Paul was able to go to Spain.
No, he very likely did not get to Spain. History tells us that he died in Rome.
@@marthaj67 Clement, who was in Rome and almost certainly saw Paul executed, says he made it to Spain. Why do you think you know better?
Tarshish is creating so much confusion in me! Tin ,lead and silver, and The boats of Tarshish that took the Jews back to Israel = Britain?
I think Tarshish is Britain because of prophecies like that one and certain historical references; though many favor Spain - it is possible Tarshish had two seats just as Tyre had two locations though because of the great distance between Spain and Britain in the ancient world it would seem unlikely
“The Bible Came from Arabia “, Kamal Salibi,1985 plus his 3 other bible study books and blog for facts not fantasies. Peter, James and Jesus went to Palestine from Arabia. Paul went from Palestine to Arabia to get the “special parchments.” The OT has yet to be translated. The little- but significant- parts Kamal Salibi has tells different stories. Start at start. So,no.
Because Spain lies on the Iberian peninsula, or the land of the Iber, the Hebrews. Not a single act in either the Old or the New Testament happened in tiny desert Ersatz Israel of today. Does little desert Israel sound like the large land of milk and honey described in Exodus 3:8?
This is just a bold-faced lie.
Not to mention Gen 48 … for example ephraim was prophesied to be a company of nations (plural!!!) in the end days.
Because you would rather believe the father of lies than think. John 8:44. Unfortunately, most people would rather believe lies than take the plain words in the Bible literally. Exodus 3:8: "And I am come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians, and to bring them up out of that land unto ; unto the place of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites." Does that sound like tiny desert Ersatz Israel? What country has Perizzites? Paris, France. What country has Canaanites? Cannes, France. What country lies right by Iberia? France? @@marthaj67
You think the modern borders of Israel are the same through history? Use the brain in your head.
cheap hols, init!
Answer: Because the White Israelites called the Gentiles were there (and in all of Europe).
Iberia…Hebrews?
No. Don't embarrass yourself.
J jjjjjjews no that is Caucasian 19 century invention , anyway there's isn't such thing as white Hebrews , secondly the word Israel don't exist on Hebrews Scriptures .
1. Wrong. 2. Also wrong.
Who cares why Paul wanted to do anything, he wasn't of Jesus Christ.
what???
@@through-faith-alone Paul wasn't chosen by Jesus. No, not even when he was so called blinded.
@@debbiewareing1178 Not according to Jesus! So I'll stand on what He and my Father have taught me. You can stand with men.
Oh, Jeremiah 17:5 tells us the Lord said, a man that follows man is cursed. So I'll keep with the one tru Truth that only comes from my Father because I don't want to live a cursed life.
A man wrote Jeremiah, thus by your definition it isn't to be followed. You either believe the Bible or don't. Without the Bible you have no objective authority on Christianity. Can't believe you are this foolish. @@TribulationIsNear
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