Thank you for the shoutout Dylan, and thanks for your help! So a number of us (Andrew, Ian, Hiroki, Jeremy, Peter, Dylan and myself) managed to do the experiment and we were able to get to with 1-2% of the moons true distance with the larger baselines. Not bad for backyard measurements!
You are a natural and sensational communicator! I for one think you, together with Astrobackyard, now set the standard. Terrific stuff. And we cannot forget "Chuck's" :) You guys are all terrific. Best to you at university and keep educating we amateurs... even in far flung places like Florida-USA. You are top-drawer.
Ah yes science! I actually love to do that with astrophotography, making pretty pictures is wonderful but I always look at frames to see if stuff is moving or wanting to see if I can get more data out of it. So much fun.
Parallax Error from school time, I think I heard that again after a long time. Didn't pay attention at that time, I never knew it will come back "Cool" . Excellent Video Dylan!
Also, be warned. The professional astronomers I work with everyday have very dry sense of humors. If you become a researcher don’t let them get to you!
my question is how does it calculate the arcseconds per pixel. It's cool that we can plug it into the calculator but I don't understand how it reached that calculation. Would be good to know. Thanks!
Great upload mate ☺real science and my kinda party. It's kind of difficult to get precise measurement of the Moon because of its unusual orbit. Each orbit and distance differs from the previous one hence why they depend on the laser sensing experiment. I use magnitude in comparison to stars along with powers of 10 mathematical form ☺
Yeh I was happy enough to get this close but your method sounds better :) it was just a happy coincidence to be doing this at the same time we were discussing parallax at uni !
@Notts boy24 looks like you are wasting time on this You tube Nonsense. You may need to stuck to your alley. Sounds like your intelligence will be very helpful in the real stuff. Become a real astronomer like what Dylan is getting to - are you already?!! . I hope you spend your energies in the right place. Cheers Kiddo! if you are still 24!
so interesting, I am adding to my understanding of these things daily... so the star which is in the background, it's distance is already known, that's the arc second info, but how do they figure the stars distance by parallax when the next star in back of it is also unknown? thanks
I like this form of video mate, a bit of sciency stuff and some really good content. Getting together and doing this with yourself, Terry and everyone else was really fun. Who said science isn't fun. I had an absolute ball doing this. Maybe next time we will have to use online timing so we are a little more accurate with our photo taking, just an idea. When is the next one :D ;)
Yeh it’s really fun doing astronomy with others generally which is why I liked the GSP too. Glad you could join us for this experiment! I should’ve credited everyone but Terry’s post has all the details for the main event :)
Your formula needs changing slightly to take account of the angle between your baseline and the direction of the moon. If the baseline is at a perfect 90 degree angle to the direction of the moon, then your calculation will be accurate. If not, then it will be an underestimate.
Say man? You got any recommendations for me? I'm fresh out of community college getting ready to transfer to a CSU. My two majors were history/ social and behavioral sciences. When I transfer out I will lean towards what is related to the latter major. I'm looking for something related to sciences.
Great video Dylan, very informative ( until you mentioned the curvature earth - when its clearly flat , lol totally taking the piss man... ) look forward to more educational info like this :) :) clear skies man.. been over a month here with cloud.
Hehe thanks for watching and forgiving the slight pivot away from pretty pictures for the moment :) hopefully this never ending summer ends soon and the sky comes back!
Dylan, you are it. I tagged you from my Utube channel "moonscapes". I hope it gets you more subs. Wish I could meet you at NEAF, I live only 100 mils away. Yes I said miles, I was the one who contacted you about NASA going to the Moon on inches and feet. I do see that Saturn 5 behind you in your VID. LOL And yes everything is meaning less and yes we are all going to die. Great vids and keep up the great vids.
@@DylanODonnell Khan academy math is really good. I did a TPP (tertiary preparation program) with USQ back in 2017 with the aim of doing a Bsc majoring in Astronomy and had a horrid time with the maths (maths all online only, no lecturer, head lecturer at the Ipswich campus taught 3 classes each at both Ipswich and Springfield lakes campuses; so was really hard to get a hold of). And, even worse, no tutor available (only for the beginning and intermediate maths subjects). I can learn the material, but not in a compressed period of time like they expect (i'm older, nearly 50, and my learning ability in the past few years has really slowed down). It was a very unpleasant experience to say the least.
mrtheoden you are right on both counts, Khan academy is a fantastic resource especially those original maths tutes that go right back to primary school level - which I happily admit I refer back to! And maths isn’t hard, just a bit of a plod and as you say it’s hard to get support in an online course. The Swinburne course is very maths light - so it can’t be transferred to other unis if you choose to move institutions. I’m only doing a post grad cert though, it’s unlikely I’ll go on to masters where the math gets more intense.
@@DylanODonnell have you got a link to the course in question? How do you define math light? USQ's program wasn't super heavy on maths I believe, certainly not the same level as a similar degree at UQ or ANU. I'm more curious than anything - I've admitted to myself that I am simply too old to be considering doing a degree.
I’m at the pub so forgive me but google Swinburne online astronomy for the course options. I’m doing the grad cert so I only have to knock over 4 subjects to get the equivalent of a bachelor degree. Re maths light .. you could get zero points on all the maths questions and still pass. No exams. Take home tests and a heavily weighted essay. It’s geared up for science communication really. I should get a commission for these referrals .. quite a few subscribers have enrolled :)
I thought modern astronomers used a laser to measure the distance by bouncing a laser off of the moon with mirrors left from the moon missions. Truly mind blowing we have lasers that shoot 230,000 miles away off of mirrors and not hitting a single satellite or having trouble with the rotation or orbiting
Yes, that’s a much more accurate way professional astronomers measure the distance to the moon. This video is about an amateur DIY method. Your other comments make no sense. Satellites would be too small to interfere with the laser.
@@DylanODonnell Perhaps everything is problemless and we're all going to live? One thing is for certain Mr O'Donnell: "Know thyself" (Delphi Oracle circa 600 BC)
Thank you for the shoutout Dylan, and thanks for your help! So a number of us (Andrew, Ian, Hiroki, Jeremy, Peter, Dylan and myself) managed to do the experiment and we were able to get to with 1-2% of the moons true distance with the larger baselines. Not bad for backyard measurements!
High five! ✋🏼
@@DylanODonnell I 2nd that too 👍
We all know Dylan is doing this because the moon is out and he loves it xD.
Good luck on your way to becoming a real astronomer, Dylan.
Haha Thanks Freeman. God damn moon. Psshhh.
You are a natural and sensational communicator! I for one think you, together with Astrobackyard, now set the standard. Terrific stuff. And we cannot forget "Chuck's" :) You guys are all terrific. Best to you at university and keep educating we amateurs... even in far flung places like Florida-USA. You are top-drawer.
Thanks for the very lovely comments mate! Gives me motivation to keep going.
True. I have lots of friends until it comes to sitting in the garden at night staring upwards for hours... gr8 vid. Cheers.
Hehe so true. Thanks Matt!
Ah yes science! I actually love to do that with astrophotography, making pretty pictures is wonderful but I always look at frames to see if stuff is moving or wanting to see if I can get more data out of it. So much fun.
Exactly! No reason why we can’t do both :)
Parallax Error from school time, I think I heard that again after a long time. Didn't pay attention at that time, I never knew it will come back "Cool" . Excellent Video Dylan!
Thanks Ray! I’ve forgotten almost everything from primary and high school so this degree takes some relearning hehe
THX u saved my life Im doing a school project on this topic this helped A LOT
Did it?? Amazing :)
yess@@DylanODonnell
Nicely done! Sounds like fun! You always do a great job on your videos from start to finish!
Also, be warned. The professional astronomers I work with everyday have very dry sense of humors. If you become a researcher don’t let them get to you!
Thanks mate! I’m surprised a math video got such a decent like ratio! And yes .. there is a type ;)
Great job Dylan, short, and to the point! excellent result, and something that we could all try. (if we can find a friend!)
Haha thx Mikey. I try to get to the point as quickly as possible 👊🏼
I laughed at the Wayne's World cut scene - perfect.
Haha was a total afterthought but how perfect is it? 😆
@@DylanODonnell Tia Carrere
Great video Dylan. I learned a similar method in my astronomy class, pretty neat stuff. Thanks for sharing my photo 🤙
No worries Bryan!
my question is how does it calculate the arcseconds per pixel. It's cool that we can plug it into the calculator but I don't understand how it reached that calculation. Would be good to know. Thanks!
Cool stuff Dylan, thanks for sharing
My pleasure, thanks!
So, you really did the math! Great and enlightening video! (I’m not kiddin’).
Thanks Enrique!
Nice work Dylan!
Delayed response but thanks T :) Loving your work lately.
Great upload mate ☺real science and my kinda party. It's kind of difficult to get precise measurement of the Moon because of its unusual orbit. Each orbit and distance differs from the previous one hence why they depend on the laser sensing experiment. I use magnitude in comparison to stars along with powers of 10 mathematical form ☺
Yeh I was happy enough to get this close but your method sounds better :) it was just a happy coincidence to be doing this at the same time we were discussing parallax at uni !
@@DylanODonnell super cool 👍
@Notts boy24 looks like you are wasting time on this You tube Nonsense. You may need to stuck to your alley. Sounds like your intelligence will be very helpful in the real stuff. Become a real astronomer like what Dylan is getting to - are you already?!! . I hope you spend your energies in the right place. Cheers Kiddo! if you are still 24!
Hi Dylan,
I loved seeing you and Trevor getting together at NEAF. He and Ash will be invited to Star Stuff III, WON’T THEY?
Cheers, Mel
It was SO fun Mel.. video going up in the next hour.. assuming the render works !
I want to be an astronomer please tell me what degrees or courses I have to do. I am from INDIA
I enjoy every second of this kinda video :D
Thanks man! More to come then :)
Wow great video Dylan. 👍
Thx LAshotts !
so interesting, I am adding to my understanding of these things daily... so the star which is in the background, it's distance is already known, that's the arc second info, but how do they figure the stars distance by parallax when the next star in back of it is also unknown? thanks
Great video Dylan!
Cheers mate :)
Why do I have to count the pixels can’t I just use a theodolite?
3:45-I’d like to know what the ruler distance said as well as the chord length.
I like this form of video mate, a bit of sciency stuff and some really good content. Getting together and doing this with yourself, Terry and everyone else was really fun. Who said science isn't fun. I had an absolute ball doing this. Maybe next time we will have to use online timing so we are a little more accurate with our photo taking, just an idea. When is the next one :D ;)
Yeh it’s really fun doing astronomy with others generally which is why I liked the GSP too. Glad you could join us for this experiment! I should’ve credited everyone but Terry’s post has all the details for the main event :)
Well done!
Thanks Sergio :)
Noice : ) I'm amazed that the parallax could be measured from only 130km!
Yeh I was surprised ! Thanks !
Ah, yes. . .a friend. That joke was so . . . .true, actually. Lol.
I feel the burn too :)
Your formula needs changing slightly to take account of the angle between your baseline and the direction of the moon. If the baseline is at a perfect 90 degree angle to the direction of the moon, then your calculation will be accurate. If not, then it will be an underestimate.
Have fun.
Can we get some more 5 min science gems?
Sounds good to me :)
Say man? You got any recommendations for me? I'm fresh out of community college getting ready to transfer to a CSU. My two majors were history/ social and behavioral sciences. When I transfer out I will lean towards what is related to the latter major. I'm looking for something related to sciences.
1:45 why'd that cut so deep?
Haha!
Great video Dylan, very informative ( until you mentioned the curvature earth - when its clearly flat , lol totally taking the piss man... ) look forward to more educational info like this :) :) clear skies man.. been over a month here with cloud.
Hehe thanks for watching and forgiving the slight pivot away from pretty pictures for the moment :) hopefully this never ending summer ends soon and the sky comes back!
@@DylanODonnell Spring will be starting here soon in Ireland :(
But I look forward to seeing what you get up too. :) great videos man..
Being that your studying astronomy I guess that will involve more VISUAL use of your telescopes. Hope you can find those dusty eye pieces lol
Hey, I'll have you know that I didn't have any friends before I was even into astronomy!
Haha my sincere apologies for casting aspersions 😆
Dylan, you are it. I tagged you from my Utube channel "moonscapes". I hope it gets you more subs. Wish I could meet you at NEAF, I live only 100 mils away. Yes I said miles, I was the one who contacted you about NASA going to the Moon on inches and feet. I do see that Saturn 5 behind you in your VID. LOL And yes everything is meaning less and yes we are all going to die. Great vids and keep up the great vids.
Hey thanks James - I really appreciate that! I'll check it out as soon as I get a moment!
Forgot to mention I imaged Terry's long period comet while it was on it's way out of the solar system ☺
I was only just getting into astrophotography during that one and have some very lack lustre images of it 😆
@@DylanODonnell ah right...here is my video of it ☺ ruclips.net/video/Xbhwe5hEmGI/видео.html
how are you finding the maths in your degree Dylan?
Mostly on google 😆
@@DylanODonnell Khan academy math is really good. I did a TPP (tertiary preparation program) with USQ back in 2017 with the aim of doing a Bsc majoring in Astronomy and had a horrid time with the maths (maths all online only, no lecturer, head lecturer at the Ipswich campus taught 3 classes each at both Ipswich and Springfield lakes campuses; so was really hard to get a hold of). And, even worse, no tutor available (only for the beginning and intermediate maths subjects). I can learn the material, but not in a compressed period of time like they expect (i'm older, nearly 50, and my learning ability in the past few years has really slowed down).
It was a very unpleasant experience to say the least.
mrtheoden you are right on both counts, Khan academy is a fantastic resource especially those original maths tutes that go right back to primary school level - which I happily admit I refer back to! And maths isn’t hard, just a bit of a plod and as you say it’s hard to get support in an online course. The Swinburne course is very maths light - so it can’t be transferred to other unis if you choose to move institutions. I’m only doing a post grad cert though, it’s unlikely I’ll go on to masters where the math gets more intense.
@@DylanODonnell have you got a link to the course in question? How do you define math light? USQ's program wasn't super heavy on maths I believe, certainly not the same level as a similar degree at UQ or ANU. I'm more curious than anything - I've admitted to myself that I am simply too old to be considering doing a degree.
I’m at the pub so forgive me but google Swinburne online astronomy for the course options. I’m doing the grad cert so I only have to knock over 4 subjects to get the equivalent of a bachelor degree. Re maths light .. you could get zero points on all the maths questions and still pass. No exams. Take home tests and a heavily weighted essay. It’s geared up for science communication really. I should get a commission for these referrals .. quite a few subscribers have enrolled :)
Now use ham radio eme moonbounce,and verify your calculatins😂
Well, the sciency part is why we get in to astronomy. 🤓 Also, nerds.
Exactly :)
I thought modern astronomers used a laser to measure the distance by bouncing a laser off of the moon with mirrors left from the moon missions. Truly mind blowing we have lasers that shoot 230,000 miles away off of mirrors and not hitting a single satellite or having trouble with the rotation or orbiting
Yes, that’s a much more accurate way professional astronomers measure the distance to the moon. This video is about an amateur DIY method. Your other comments make no sense. Satellites would be too small to interfere with the laser.
Nice Video!
Greets to Terry 😊
astrophoto.kevin
Thanks Kev!
I don’t have any friends😥
Welcome to astronomy!
Why not each measure the angle of the moon to the horizon and use trigonometry to calculate the distance?
"Use a calculator if you're a huge nerd from the '60s".
Nerd from the '60s, yes. But calculators from the '60s?? Pftt. Slide rule, baby, slide rule!
Those ancient Greeks were a clever lot over 2400 years ago
YOu didn't roast flat earthers in this video
Shoulda stuck the knife in you reckon? 😆
What is a "Friend"?
Is it a type of hydrogen alpha filter?
60,000 km off? Flat earth confirmed, probably 😏
Instead of distance as the crow flies I should’ve calculated it as the mole digs.
How many Mike Sargents is that?
And yet the Earth is flat, and we're all going to die!
Haha!
If everything is meaningless and we are all going to die, why bother doing anything at all?
If you need a meaning to be happy, maybe that’s the problem :)
@@DylanODonnell Perhaps everything is problemless and we're all going to live?
One thing is for certain Mr O'Donnell: "Know thyself" (Delphi Oracle circa 600 BC)
Horrible Moon River version!