Toxic Squash Syndrome Explained | Meagan Lloyd
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
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PIcture this: you sid down for thanksgiving dinner, you eat some delicious pumpkin soup only to find your HAIR falling out a week later?! Well that is just one terrifying symptom of "toxic squash syndrome" - you don't wanna know the rest!
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Omg I thought I was crazy! A squirrel planted a voluntary squash in my yard. Grew so nice, and we were excited to eat it. Bitter and nasty tasting. Wow.glad I trusted my instincts and didn’t serve it to my family!
This is the first I have ever heard of this. We grow squash every year and have had " volunteer " pumpkins come up every year. No problem so far, but thank you for the heads up. I will do more research.
TSS does not occur from planting domestic seeds. It can occur from cross pollination with a wild squash and like others have stated, you will know if a squash is toxic by how bitter and impalatable it tases. Its not something that really has to be worried about.
I planted two different kinds too close together and yes they were extremely bitter.
does this happen if i left a bunch of ornamental gourds and pumpkins from trader joe’s in my garden and they just sprouted their own patch? what if i have 2 zucchini plants no more than 6 feet from those?
@@user-nlvmruu You dont have to worry unless any squash crosses with a wild variety. It would only be the fruit that grew from the next generation. You would realize before you ate enough to poison yourself cuz the poison itself is so bitter its unpaletable and inedible. There are very few cases of this happening. Pianos fall on more people.
@@user-nlvmruu Your gourds and squash are different species completely and not likely to cross. If they did they would be gross to eat like the gourds.
I grew the seeds from a second generation Trader Joe's butternut squash. I got 60 big, beautiful butternuts last year. I found on the internet that you can eat them green if they fall off accidentally. They were tasty as well as buttery - maybe that is how they got their name. Edit: I had better dig up the 4th generation butternut (there must be 30 small ones already) and replant butternut from seeds from the store.
My understanding is you will know instantly if it's toxic because you will not want to eat it instantly due to how bitter it is.
Like you would not likely eat enough for the side effects.
You may find this information from Iowa State University Extension about cross-pollination among vine crops interesting:
“Since they have a similar flowering habit, bloom about the same time, and are members of the same plant family, it is logical that gardeners might assume that squash, melons, and cucumbers will cross-pollinate. Fortunately, however, this is not true. The female flowers of each crop can be fertilized only by pollen from male flowers of the same species. Cross pollination, however, can occur between varieties within a species.”
An article on fruit set in the
Cucurbit family from University of California, Davis (which also has information on how to hand-pollinate plants when necessary) says much the same thing:
“A common misconception is that squash, melons, and cucumbers will cross-pollinate. This is not true; the female flowers of each can be fertilized only by pollen from that same species. Varieties within each species, however, will cross-pollinate.”
This is why a book like Seed to Seed is very helpful. Something to consider is that Armenian Pale Green is actually a melon (treated as a cucumber) so it will cross with other C.Mellos but not true cucumbers.
Great info I need to look more into this … Thanks for the info
Sounds like a plan to get us not to grow food to me.
100% agreed. I grew up on my grandparents farm. My grandma has an entire patch of pumpkins that were volunteer for years and years and years….
My grandma also saved her heirloom seeds from year to year. The only time she bought seeds, was if she had a total crop failure (which sometimes, does sadly happen)…
Basically, if you take a bite of a squash, and it tastes insanely bitter, don’t eat it. “When in doubt, throw it out”…..But my gran told me this back in the 1970’s when I was a child 🤷🏻♀️
Don’t be afraid to grow your own food friends! Also don’t be afraid to save your seeds. ❤️💕👍🏼
What most people don't realize is that guords are cucurbita also. Squash crossing with guords is what causes the problem.
@@renebrock4147 is pumpkin a gourd? If i havs pumpkins growing with squash, is this a problem? I have hand pollinated pumpkin with squash and vice versa. This year's fruits would be fine just not a second generation fruit from the seeds, correct?
Wow, I am going to have to check my pumpkins this year. 😂
I assume you'll only need to check one fruit per plant?
Holy crap, I'd never of this. Good to know!
This is good to know. I'm gonna crossing some squash this year or next. Guess I need to be careful
I had a toxic syndrome in my life.... But I squashed it.
Bitter melons?
Bitter cucumbers?
How do we know for sure if it’s lack of water or a bitter variety that’s safe?
Don’t believe everything on the internet. This sure is fear mongering people without showing facts.
“It is more serious than I thought…” it does have TOXIC in the name afterall! 😂
Uh oh for my landrace cucumbers I plan on growing this year.
Not realy. Just taste them and make sure they don't show bad traits. "Good tasting" is something that should be on the list of "keepers" anyway.
I don't understand. If it's super bitter, why would you eat it? How would it even make you sick if it's too bitter to eat in the first place? Why NOT eat the squash if it tasted fine even if you do see it's not true to seed?
Wow! Holy cow! Well poop! Throwing out those seeds I saved! Never heard of this!
Where do you think the seeds you buy come from?
How do you know yours are toxic? Foolish
Don't. That's over reacting and that's what Big Ag wants you to do.
Just taste your squash and don;t eat it or save seeds if it's overly bitter. That's something you should be doing anyway, if you're seed saving.
Squash crossing with guords, which usually are toxic and are also cucurbits are what cause the problem.
Wrong.
Those will not cross pollinate. They are different enough they cannot in nature breed.
@@davidthedeafwhat about if a zucchini pollinates a pumpkin? Could suppressed genes for bitterness be less suppressed in the plants of such a cross?
Hmm... I saved seeds from butternut squash from last year. .. I planted them...
Will be fine.
I feel uncomfortable with the casual way this video presented the subject. Is it really dangerous. If so, how can you avoid it? What were your sources? I go to your channels because you have a large platform, generally post very informative videos, that are clearly presented. You also run a seed company. I think this video should have been made more rigorously given the resources at your disposal
This was done in such a “shock grab” way that it is scaring people here to throw out their saved seeds to buy more. That is NOT cool.
Just don't eat bitter things that are not supposed to be bitter. Bitter greens are fine, bitter zucchini is not fine. If in doubt, nibble on the raw squash, it should not taste bitter. If you can eat the squash raw then you know that it's safe to cook.
@@debraberg1763sure but who wants to waste a season growing something that may or may not be toxic? I agree with the original comment. More info was needed here
A man in Europe died of TSS a few years ago after eating a squash in his garden.
Omg!
If you baked it you wouldn’t necessarily know if it was in a casserole that is scary
So if you buy Heirloom seeds every year you will not have this problem with your own produce.
You shouldn't have to BUY heirloom seeds every year. Since they are not hybrid, they should give forth fertile seeds. You can save those seeds year from year, for each nexr year's crop.
Is this only if you use seeds from the previous year?
Yes. Orif you use seeds from a squash of unknown origin that you can't be sure wasn't inadvertently cross-pollinated.
This seems pretty uninformed, and scare mongering for views... I think it's very rare. Jess from roots and refugee talks about how it just scares people out of saving seed. You run a seed company, right?
Maybe that's why I'm bald. Lol
When you eat just meat, that doesn't happen, lol just saying 🤷
😮 WTF
He cracky Kardashian is annoying after a while. I cant.