The biggest surprise of my USAF life was PCSing to Carswell AFB in the middle of an ORI in 1989. Then 16 ships MITOed right over Fort Worth as my newbie eyes bugged out watching wake turbulence. My severely proud Master Sergeant then shouted “Welcome to SAC, Lieutenant!”
It is amazing how the water injection completely changes the sound of the J57 engines upon takeoff. I've seen many B-52G models pass directly overhead at 400 feet on a pretty much daily basis back in the 1980s (I lived underneath a SAC low level training route). I remember the loud, deep roar of the J57. But I also remember a distinct whine/screeching/whistling sound the engines made. You might even call it a scream. The water injection at the time of takeoff seems to completely prevent this part of the J57 sound. All you hear is the deep roar and a sound that mimics rushing water in a raging flood.
Brought back a lot of memories seeing this, thanks Mark! I was there, by time these BUFF's were rolling, MMS was already reloading the flatbeds for the next launch. I was in the Handling Shop, call sign Hotel21. I still miss those island days.
Those are the most loudest, screaming, smokiest, engines I've ever heard. They would fly over Gab Gab Beach (Naval Station) and I would have to cover my ears as they went by! ‘87-’93
My Dad was on board one of these BUFFs. Maj. J.Q. Barnard Radar-Navigator. I was just a little baby back on Andersen with the family. Cool to see this footage.
That is nice target practice and they are ready for the real thing. I use to work on and sometimes flew with the crews on the G models from Barksdale to our satellite base to rearm the Hound Dog missiles while stationed there. Before that I worked on the H models at my first duty station, and then the D models in U-tapao, Thailand. I got to fly on the KC-10 right after they came into service from Barksdale to Travis AFB once and it is a nice aircraft, but as noisy as the KC-135's.
Made a lot of memories with my little time there. Saw a friend that I hadn’t seen since Dog School second female to complete the class.Rickey Thompson. She was just passing through the terminal on a layover. Heading to another base. Talk about your chance meeting! The first one was one week ahead of her Shells Dugan . (I apologize for any spelling errors 74 was a long time ago.) I got to see some pictures of what it looked like during Viet-Nam there was hard stands everywhere. It looked like the assembly line was there on that island. And a girl behind every snowbank.
OK. I was there. 43rd Heavy Bombardment Wing. (I was also with the 5th Heavy Bombardment Wing, in Minot, ND.) Saw MITO's at both bases. Guam was the best, though. As a Jet Engine Mechanic, we got to sit in our trucks waiting for a "red ball" call. Oh.......Those are B-52H. TF-33. The old KC-135's did use J-57's. (Water injection.) I was the first mechanic (in Guam) to have the honor of installing a new starter on the the CFM-56. The new engine for the KC-135.
If people only knew what a crew chief has to do. I spent 10 years crewing a B-52-G. The aircraft are now airborne, now the real fun begins. B5 stands, drag chute all loaded onto the stand,cases of engine oil, hydraulic carts. How would you like to be in "Job Control"?
Bomb/Nav 30150k '66 - '70 @ Castle, Andersen, U-Tapo Saw many a MITO, 4 times a day, but a 16 ship + Tankers is a pretty big deal. It gets load. And a "Red Ball" can really spice up your day, particularly if the problem is under the radome.
There is a water tank in the aircraft - the water doesn't last long, it's only used for take-off - in basic terms - water was injected into the combustion chamber, increase in oxygen - increases thrust
B-52Gs had a 1200gal water/methanol tank. KC-135A had a 600gal. tank. Electric pumps injected water into usually either the compressor inlet or the diffuser just before the combustion chamber. This increased the mass being ejected from the rear of the engine, thus improving thrust, and simultaneously cooled the turbines allowing for higher RPM operation without overheating. The drawback of the system is that it had the effect of somewhat extinguishing the flame in the combustion chamber, leading to unburnt fuel being expelled aft out of the rear of the engine, thus creating the characteristic black smoke trails. Water injection also greatly increased the noise emitted. The TF33 turbofan version on B-52H and KC-135E was a vastly more efficient powerplant, more thrust, less fuel consumption and no need to use clumsy and inefficient (and heavy) water injection.
Nice editing, but not a real MITO. In the mid-sixties, every SAC wing launched one one ORI in true fifteen second intervals. At Turner AFB, we had 15KCs followed by 15 BUFs. Our crew was #23 in the stream, and the turbulence after liftoff was really exciting. All the wives and families were watching it from outside the perimeter of the base, and it was pretty exciting for all of them, too. One KC-97 crashed at Pease AFB during their MITO, and one B-58 was blown off the runway by the plane ahead of them at Grissom AFB, IN and the WSO ejected and came down into the wreckage. SAC decided on no more MITOS after that!
Good grief! The ICBM’s weren’t going to wait! It’s dangerous business so you practice to make it as safe as it can be but the very nature of the work is unsafe.
@@jrftworthNot necessarily. If the bombers had to use the non-optimum runway and the tankers could still use the optimum runway, the tankers could very well have launched before the bombers. More importantly, PACCS aircraft were always the primary.
@@danelder6846 The whole purpose of launching alert aircraft is to get your offensive aircraft (bombers) in the air so they don't get taken out by ICBM's. I've seen countless MITO's in person and every single one, bombers went 1st.
Wow, the memories. I was piloting number four in that MITO. If memory serves. Off to do battle with the Farallon De Medinilla Island. Good times.
So many of the uninitiated will never understand what a thing of beauty this whole thing is.
I grew up on air force bases, just a kid, but the men that flew the planes, heros, one and all.
and how many careers in the balance if it's an ori
The biggest surprise of my USAF life was PCSing to Carswell AFB in the middle of an ORI in 1989. Then 16 ships MITOed right over Fort Worth as my newbie eyes bugged out watching wake turbulence. My severely proud Master Sergeant then shouted “Welcome to SAC, Lieutenant!”
I do. I was in on 7 ORI launches. B-52Ds at Ellsworth AFB.
Could you imagine how busy it was in December '72!
I was there watching this as a 9... almost 10-year-old boy! Thank you for posting this!!!
I was right there with you. Got to watch it up close and personal. Nothing more exciting for a kid who loves airplanes
It is amazing how the water injection completely changes the sound of the J57 engines upon takeoff. I've seen many B-52G models pass directly overhead at 400 feet on a pretty much daily basis back in the 1980s (I lived underneath a SAC low level training route). I remember the loud, deep roar of the J57. But I also remember a distinct whine/screeching/whistling sound the engines made. You might even call it a scream. The water injection at the time of takeoff seems to completely prevent this part of the J57 sound. All you hear is the deep roar and a sound that mimics rushing water in a raging flood.
Crew chief
I was a pilot in this Mito from the 320 BW at Mather AFB
tippersteffi1 thank you for your service sir
Brought back a lot of memories seeing this, thanks Mark! I was there, by time these BUFF's were rolling, MMS was already reloading the flatbeds for the next launch. I was in the Handling Shop, call sign Hotel21. I still miss those island days.
Those are the most loudest, screaming, smokiest, engines I've ever heard. They would fly over Gab Gab Beach (Naval Station) and I would have to cover my ears as they went by! ‘87-’93
Love seeing the KC-10s, that is the first time I've seen a video of KC-10s doing a MITO.
When you are heavy and low on fuel, a KC-10 is like gold in the sky:)
I have a picture of me in front on a KC10 in Guam, 1986.
I was a crew chief on the KC 10 for 10 years
My Dad was on board one of these BUFFs. Maj. J.Q. Barnard Radar-Navigator. I was just a little baby back on Andersen with the family. Cool to see this footage.
I worked G models back in the day. We all loved to watch the MITOs.
Asg15 gunner here...G models rule
That is nice target practice and they are ready for the real thing. I use to work on and sometimes flew with the crews on the G models from Barksdale to our satellite base to rearm the Hound Dog missiles while stationed there. Before that I worked on the H models at my first duty station, and then the D models in U-tapao, Thailand. I got to fly on the KC-10 right after they came into service from Barksdale to Travis AFB once and it is a nice aircraft, but as noisy as the KC-135's.
You were a crew chief
The 93rd, was where it all started...! ✈️
Made a lot of memories with my little time there. Saw a friend that I hadn’t seen since Dog School second female to complete the class.Rickey Thompson. She was just passing through the terminal on a layover. Heading to another base. Talk about your chance meeting! The first one was one week ahead of her Shells Dugan . (I apologize for any spelling errors 74 was a long time ago.) I got to see some pictures of what it looked like during Viet-Nam there was hard stands everywhere. It looked like the assembly line was there on that island. And a girl behind every snowbank.
OK. I was there. 43rd Heavy Bombardment Wing. (I was also with the 5th Heavy Bombardment Wing, in Minot, ND.) Saw MITO's at both bases. Guam was the best, though. As a Jet Engine Mechanic, we got to sit in our trucks waiting for a "red ball" call. Oh.......Those are B-52H. TF-33. The old KC-135's did use J-57's. (Water injection.) I was the first mechanic (in Guam) to have the honor of installing a new starter on the the CFM-56. The new engine for the KC-135.
had to read that twice - OK - got it - your birds from Minot had TF-33 / / these were older B-52G models, with J-57's
Captain Jerry Simon thank you for introducing me to the military Mather Air Force Base Sacramento Rancho Cordova California
Truly amazing to see from the Glideslope bldg
1:26-that's a line of business ready to get-going! :) MMS- We Provide the Force!
I wish I could have seen it live...
Andersen AFB was my first base of choice on my AF Form 90 after a non-volunteer / 4-year controlled tour as a T-38 IP at Laughlin AFB in 1988.
I was born at K.I. Sawyer. Dad worked on autopilot for G,H,,KC-135 and RC-135!
If people only knew what a crew chief has to do. I spent 10 years crewing a B-52-G. The aircraft are now airborne, now the real fun begins. B5 stands, drag chute all loaded onto the stand,cases of engine oil, hydraulic carts. How would you like to be in "Job Control"?
Thank for serving, people have no idea, all I was, was a kid, my Dad flew off to war and Mom told us to relax it will be all ok.
she thought we were idiots we knew he could get shot down.
The B-52 is older than me, and I ain't naming my medical aliments :) born 1954, the B-52 I think 1952
what does it matter, all I want is a warm women in my bed
woman not women, that would cause problems :)
I had left Guam July 4th, 1986. I remember those days on the northwest ramp by the WSA.
I arrived on Guam on the 4th of July. I worked defensive fire control fro 86-88
Its not a MITO departure this is a cell departure with 30 second intervals
Yep, MITO interval is 15 seconds per B-52, 17 seconds between tankers.
Great video!
I was there and have the T-shirt to prove it. I was sitting in Bomber8 waiting for a red ball while they all launched.
Crew Chief in the 43rd OMS during this MITO, I still have the artical in the Stars and Stripes
I think I had moved to the Phase Dock by the time this occurred. I was getting out and left Andersen at the end of Feb. '87
The Mexican ......I was a crew chief there and then too.
You must know Doug Hall @@jamesphillips8069
Yes Paul we know and we made this happen @@pauldubay6713
Bomb/Nav 30150k '66 - '70 @ Castle, Andersen, U-Tapo Saw many a MITO, 4 times a day, but a 16 ship + Tankers is a pretty big deal. It gets load. And a "Red Ball" can really spice up your day, particularly if the problem is under the radome.
great description. thought it had water injection, wasn't sure
Surprised the USAF did not rig up some device to make the KC-10s pour out black smoke too, lol.
Salute from 92oms FAIRCHILD 81-85
Right there with ya, 92oms 78-90
NICE VIDEO B - 52G
I wonder how loud this was 😮
worked this mission as a 20151 in the target intel shop. scored those farallon bombs!
Awesome dude!!
Thanks Mark dad did 23 years Air Force we were yanked across the world, but he was Tac not Stratigic :)
not that there is anything wrong with Tac, a lot of men died in Korea and Nam flying Tac even ww2, but not sure they differentiated the service.
Would have been a great view from Pattys Point with them shooting overhead
a pretty thing to watch all you knuckle draggers lol actually it took everyone in the ready room and launch trucks besides us to get em up.
Classic water burners in action.
How does the whole water injection thing work? I'd love to know.
There is a water tank in the aircraft - the water doesn't last long, it's only used for take-off - in basic terms - water was injected into the combustion chamber, increase in oxygen - increases thrust
B-52Gs had a 1200gal water/methanol tank. KC-135A had a 600gal. tank. Electric pumps injected water into usually either the compressor inlet or the diffuser just before the combustion chamber. This increased the mass being ejected from the rear of the engine, thus improving thrust, and simultaneously cooled the turbines allowing for higher RPM operation without overheating.
The drawback of the system is that it had the effect of somewhat extinguishing the flame in the combustion chamber, leading to unburnt fuel being expelled aft out of the rear of the engine, thus creating the characteristic black smoke trails. Water injection also greatly increased the noise emitted. The TF33 turbofan version on B-52H and KC-135E was a vastly more efficient powerplant, more thrust, less fuel consumption and no need to use clumsy and inefficient (and heavy) water injection.
I'm here for the KC-10s.
43rd Bomb Wing !
Nice editing, but not a real MITO. In the mid-sixties, every SAC wing launched one one ORI in true fifteen second intervals. At Turner AFB, we had 15KCs followed by 15 BUFs. Our crew was #23 in the stream, and the turbulence after liftoff was really exciting. All the wives and families were watching it from outside the perimeter of the base, and it was pretty exciting for all of them, too. One KC-97 crashed at Pease AFB during their MITO, and one B-58 was blown off the runway by the plane ahead of them at Grissom AFB, IN and the WSO ejected and came down into the wreckage. SAC decided on no more MITOS after that!
Bombers go 1st, not tankers
This was a Conventional MITO (30 sec interval IIRC) and this was also the first KC-10 MITO.
Good grief! The ICBM’s weren’t going to wait! It’s dangerous business so you practice to make it as safe as it can be but the very nature of the work is unsafe.
@@jrftworthNot necessarily. If the bombers had to use the non-optimum runway and the tankers could still use the optimum runway, the tankers could very well have launched before the bombers.
More importantly, PACCS aircraft were always the primary.
@@danelder6846 The whole purpose of launching alert aircraft is to get your offensive aircraft (bombers) in the air so they don't get taken out by ICBM's.
I've seen countless MITO's in person and every single one, bombers went 1st.
2:48
I was there
So sad all the G models B52 have bin chopped up for scrap so sad
58-0184
Spent a lot of hours working 0184 and the rest of the Gs.
Lies dont cut it
So Bad Ass.
Fly the friendly skies over North Korea? Too bad the worlds third largest air force sits idle out west.
43rd Bomb Wing !
43rd SPS!