Hey everyone here to complain about the music: Too bad. Your gripes feed my soul. Also the cockpit noise from the source video isn't nearly as interesting as you think it is. If you don't like the music feel free to mute the video and play whatever you want over top.
Used to sit at the W. end of the e/w runway when Fairchild used to be a SAC base for the B-52's and watch them do touch & go's. What a heart pounder. Was also the when the tanker crashed and seen the B-52 go down when it was practicing for the Open House.
Cool video! I lived at Fairchild AFB in the 1960s and my dad was a KC-135 pilot, when the aircraft was brand new to the Air Force. Sixty years later, still going strong. New engines and avionics help.
I was a KC-135A/R boom operator from 1979-1986. Back then MITO's were 12 seconds between tankers. Yeah it didn't look too good visually when you had water injection departures using J57 engines.
SOO many questions! (2500 135/1500 T-1; current STRAT/J5) Are 15 second MITOs back or what the hell? Was this part of GT or a Wing Commander demo thing??
1st question - yes, they've been back for a few years now. 2018ish IIRC. 2nd question - theaviationgeekclub.com/fairchild-sets-record-with-20-kc-135-stratotanker-minimum-interval-take-off-mito-departure/
It's really not so bad. If you notice around the 2:20 mark in the video we bank off to the left, this is intentional as it moves us out of the wake turbulence of the preceding aircraft. We do hit some wake of the preceding aircraft and while it can be fairly sporty, it's nothing unmanageable. I've hit clear air turbulence more rough.
how is the stress when lining up behind a throttled up B52 at T/O and taking off so close? making sure u rotate soon enough ahead of it ? when all airborne what is next, i meet at a point and make a formation ? radar controller busy i assume or o u fly a prebriefed route with not too much radio talk?
MITOs are only used for EWO aircraft. The object is to get the aircraft airborne before the incoming ICBM's hit. 12 second interval due to the SLBM threat. Now for the "reality check". SAC EWO bomber and tanker alert ended in 1992, 30 years ago. No need for MITO takeoffs anymore. The more common formation is cell departures at 1 minute intervals
You would never mix aircraft types for MITO. After liftoff, each aircraft turns left or right to avoid the turbulence. The aircraft do not form up after takeoff, but each aircraft is assigned to meet up with a bomber out there somewhere.
Minimum Interval Take Offs were changed from 10 seconds to 30 seconds staying 150 feet behind the jet in front of you. It was fun. 10 seconds would be scary. After T/I you fan up wind 💨.
Only remember more than 5 once. Coming out of Westover with an entire fighter wing coming to Spain in 72.. However launched my B58 in a pack of 20 at sunset at Little Rock. Totally awesome. J79s in afterburner
It is obvious that you were never in the military/Air Force. This is real sir, and I participated in many such exercises from 1979-1995 flying on KC-135 A, E, Q, R, and U models. With the A and Q models, we had water injection engines and did 12 second MITO’s. You definitely didn’t want to be the last tanker. No sir, this is not photo shopped!
Hey everyone here to complain about the music:
Too bad. Your gripes feed my soul.
Also the cockpit noise from the source video isn't nearly as interesting as you think it is. If you don't like the music feel free to mute the video and play whatever you want over top.
weird comment.
@@metroplex3k cutting me to my soul right now.
Used to sit at the W. end of the e/w runway when Fairchild used to be a SAC base for the B-52's and watch them do touch & go's. What a heart pounder. Was also the when the tanker crashed and seen the B-52 go down when it was practicing for the Open House.
Cool video! I lived at Fairchild AFB in the 1960s and my dad was a KC-135 pilot, when the aircraft was brand new to the Air Force. Sixty years later, still going strong. New engines and avionics help.
would love some ATC or just cockpit noise in the background but that's a really good tight takeoff.
I was a KC-135A/R boom operator from 1979-1986. Back then MITO's were 12 seconds between tankers. Yeah it didn't look too good visually when you had water injection departures using J57 engines.
When I was stationed at Grissom AFB IN, we had 13 tankers on alert, and planned on 10 second intervals on takeoff.
Buff cheifs salute you
Without the smoke from water in J-57's it isn't nearly as exciting! :)
Or the noise!
Totally agree!
1195 gallons
Love the old water burners.
Or the pucker factor if you loose water on one side before they split the pumps to either outboard or inboards losing water. CREW chief 70-75
really cool and good video, one can feel the spirit of aviation in this video !!!! thanks a lot for sharing this video here ! awesome !
SOO many questions! (2500 135/1500 T-1; current STRAT/J5) Are 15 second MITOs back or what the hell? Was this part of GT or a Wing Commander demo thing??
1st question - yes, they've been back for a few years now. 2018ish IIRC. 2nd question - theaviationgeekclub.com/fairchild-sets-record-with-20-kc-135-stratotanker-minimum-interval-take-off-mito-departure/
Remember a b52 is 380 million rivets flying in close formation.
Need J57’s on those kc135’s a proper turbojet with water injection just adds more theatrics to a MITO
And a runway covered in black smoke.
Interesting to see all the rudder deflection during taxi. Do the KC135s lack a steering tiller or how does it work?
I saw you guys, keep doing what you do.
I wonder how much stress is put on the airframe flying so close together on take off?
It's really not so bad. If you notice around the 2:20 mark in the video we bank off to the left, this is intentional as it moves us out of the wake turbulence of the preceding aircraft. We do hit some wake of the preceding aircraft and while it can be fairly sporty, it's nothing unmanageable. I've hit clear air turbulence more rough.
What a shame there was music instead of the sound of jets!!
Amazing. Which was the call sign of the flight?
how is the stress when lining up behind a throttled up B52 at T/O and taking off so close? making sure u rotate soon enough ahead of it ? when all airborne what is next, i meet at a point and make a formation ? radar controller busy i assume or o u fly a prebriefed route with not too much radio talk?
MITOs are only used for EWO aircraft. The object is to get the aircraft airborne before the incoming ICBM's hit. 12 second interval due to the SLBM threat. Now for the "reality check". SAC EWO bomber and tanker alert ended in 1992, 30 years ago. No need for MITO takeoffs anymore. The more common formation is cell departures at 1 minute intervals
You would never mix aircraft types for MITO. After liftoff, each aircraft turns left or right to avoid the turbulence. The aircraft do not form up after takeoff, but each aircraft is assigned to meet up with a bomber out there somewhere.
@@robertheinkel6225 Sorry but you're wrong. There is an old video from 1985 with a mix a 5 KC-135 and 12 B-52s
There is a jet shaped cloud to the left of center after take off!
NICE !!!
that must of been a sight to see sound of the Scream of the jet engines
Thats Cool...!!
Minimum Interval Take Offs were changed from 10 seconds to 30 seconds staying 150 feet behind the jet in front of you. It was fun. 10 seconds would be scary. After T/I you fan up wind 💨.
music kinda ruined it :(
It'd be a great video if it wasn't for the horrible music. Fix that and you get an A+.
Just wish they were "A" models so it would be lots of noise and smoke. Miss that, 917th ARS forever
Was a boom operator in the 70's never saw more than 5 for a mito takeoff. I see 10 here, not saying 20 is not possible but just saying what I see.
www.kxly.com/fairchild-air-force-base-successfully-launches-20-jet-take-off/
i was a boom in the 135's from 1979-1984 (McConnell) & 1984-1986 (Castle). from one to another, "Boom Stowed, Leaving Position."
Only remember more than 5 once. Coming out of Westover with an entire fighter wing coming to Spain in 72..
However launched my B58 in a pack of 20 at sunset at Little Rock. Totally awesome. J79s in afterburner
Ah, I knew it! They travel in packs for protection!
We ride in single file to hide our numbers. 😉
Amazing how life like modern video "photo shop" is.
Are you saying this fake? We used to do this for major exercises.
It is obvious that you were never in the military/Air Force. This is real sir, and I participated in many such exercises from 1979-1995 flying on KC-135 A, E, Q, R, and U models. With the A and Q models, we had water injection engines and did 12 second MITO’s. You definitely didn’t want to be the last tanker. No sir, this is not photo shopped!
Get rid of the music please! I wanna hear the natural aviation sounds, metal chatter, radio chat, etc. Great video otherwise. NOKAWTG
Stupid music instead of the engine sound
Can the music
Just wish they were "A" models so it would be lots of noise and smoke. Miss that, 917th ARS forever
917th MX alumni - new Marcus who made the last tail flash.