G'day legends, I hope you've had a great start to the week, Todays Podcast is with Kum a Russian Soldier who has served in Multiple PMC's Including PMC Wagner. And was wounded in Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Wagner has been in the spotlight more so than usual with the death of Prigozhin and Utkin over the past week. You make this possible, to The Support Channel directly: www.patreon.com/willybeatingcancer www.paypal.me/MWilliams745 MERCH willys-merch.creator-spring.com/
Just curious Willy - if you were a WW2 soldier, you would have interviewed German soldiers to show that they made nothing wrong? First you interview a real blonde nazy russian "war medic" who called to defend motherland " killing everyone" outside his "motherland", now a "hero" of wagner whom being a nazy found nazies everywhere. Maybe you are a nazy Willie?
Love ya work Willie, good luck with the algorithm (it'll probably massacre this video if it stays up at all). In the rare case that happens are you able to get someone to translate the Russian side of this and provide "unbiased" subtitles?
@@hContentOftheInternethe’s a medic who has saved the lives of his brothers. He’s not personally responsible for the decisions of his country, but nevertheless he had a duty to his people and he has done the best with what he has. At the end of the day, he is a person like anyone else
after searving 2 plus years in ordinary Russian army they can join Wagner....If execpett......usually you need more experiece than that...😮...soooo....
@@Lipi19821 Any able bodied person can join Wagner, provided they speak Russian. However, Wagner may no longer exist as it is anymore. There is no need for prior service. It was the case in the past though where only veterans was allowed in.
@@CaliellGiven how they mentioned entire Wagner units with dedicated languages, has the Russian language requirement been relaxed? If so, that may explain how they increased their size so quickly
@Stealingiscaring It's amazing what armies will do when they need a lot of dudes like yesterday. "You got a pulse and you can walk? WELCOME ABOARD DUDE!" That's how I got into the Guard anyway. 🤷♂️
The funny thing about this interview that they openly mock Russian TV propaganda, while the majority of Australians cannot detect propaganda in state news and genuinely believe what they told.
Russian propaganda is over the top ridiculous. Satanism, Nazism, organ trafficking of refugees etc, Western stuff is subtler and consequently more believable.
Propaganda is everywhere - only in Russia it's true, lol. At the same time, Russia, with all its resources, expanses and great Soviet heritage: sucks on all counts, from the standard of living to the combat effectiveness of the army.
I am a professional interpreter, could provide free translation next time, if interested reply to this comment. A lot of meaning gets lost, things like this need precise and conscious interpretation, along with terminology, cultural customs, extra comments, etc. Lived and worked in the US for 5 years, native Russian speaker.
Yeap completely agree some things were lost in translation, and Ivan added a lot of things Kum did not say but to be honest I'm not mad since he was also in the military and his perspective is relevant.
I'm Asian American and have been learning Russian for 4 years, in general my interests are in linguistics and the Russian language. Hopefully I can get to the point which you are at someday. Thanks for sharing.
No one's going to believe me when i say this but I literally thought to myself 2 hours ago "Man I wonder if Willy would ever interview a Wagner fella, whats up with those guys?" and like the parrot who shit on me when I was 9, Willy has swooped in and dropped greatness right on my head, Thank You Big Man 🙏
get real mate, no Russian or Wagner soldier would ever do an interview with Willy or any western journo and l mean ever it has been noted the amount of propaganda BS Wagner videos getting around utube recently dont get sucked in
ofc the subhuman vatnik Willy gives a podium to warcriminals lmao and ofc his subhuman filthy orc loving comment section loves it 😂😂😂😂😂😂 priceless, subhumans
i do notice how much willy is more willing to joke around with invaders that went to Afghanistan then invaders that went to Ukraine. it was funny seeing that interview with that Texas guy that was part of the invasion of Afghanistan and in the same interview the guy said invaders must be unalived
@@henryrollins9177just take it in Henry. I want to know everything I can about certain people. I’ll draw my own conclusions just like I’m sure you will my friend.👍But we can be smart enough to know that we all aren’t certainly on the same page in this world. Take care my friend. They know what they’re told as do most of us. Seeing what they are told and believe and how they think and feel is valuable. Naive young men. No different than naive young men from anywhere else. The only difference is what they are convinced is their purpose. Their choices will chew them up and spit them out just like it does is all.
@@sway696you’re only coming with your own conclusions from western media! They banned Sputnik and RT Russian news outlets from the west so how exactly do you draw your own conclusions? From CNN? BBC? or this channel lol, I seriously doubt it!
Man this was the longest felt video ever with the language barrier, translator’s accent, CC completely not working on RUclips, but it was great this is an actual journalistic achievement. If this was back in 90s’ you would be collecting journalism rewards left and right for the past year. Thank you for keeping everyone informed with both perspectives
You guys dont understand how nato played Ukraine in to war with Russia, thats so sad... this war is like brother vs brother because of a woman. YOU NEVER SHOULD FIGHT BECAUSE OF A WOMAN (in this case the woman is Usa/Eu/nato). Ukrainians should arrest that corrupt criminal clown Zelensky and other criminal politicians. Take a look on this one, Zelensky is a criminal: ruclips.net/video/ZgT0_Wv6N8o/видео.htmlfeature=shared
Ivan's accent is quite good, especially if you compare his to the accents of most Russians who speak English. Not to mention his vocabulary and grammar lands him between B2-C1 level of fluency.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, regardless of sides the soldiers are the most important part and Willy has brought more interviews pertinent to this conflict than ALL other RUclipsrs. Huge respect Willy, I’m sure I’ll enjoy this like all the others you’ve done
@@baddaddy8718 They structurally belong to the TDF under the International Legion and thus via international law they indeed constitute as soldiers. Edit: Fixed typo.
that WAS NOT a interview ...in a interview 1 party asked another questions and they answer them ...here 1 guy would ask a question and the other 2 would laugh and say what they thought about ukraine ...example ... "how did you feel about russia stepping into ukraine first" .... Kum.guy.willy/let.go/on.3.hour.rant.without.answering.a.question-"ukraine has been killing children since 2014..they are just like us but I want to kill them all" ......ok .,..well the question was......HOW DID YOU FEEL RUSSIA is the one that invaded ukraine......and that was just repeated over and over and over .....and now everyone is like ""omg that was such great ground breaking work" ....are you freaking kidding me go watch it again ....maybe the best thing to do is just put in the title "listen to wagner guys talk for 3 hours" ...thats what that is ..that was not a interview
Okay, so kind of a summary, i think, is: After he was in the service, he joined Wagner and went to either the Middle East or Africa because he feels the Western international order is unfair and wants a multipolar world. He joined the fight in Ukraine because of the large and growing presence of anti-russian ethnicity comments online. He feels Russia invaded Ukraine because after the "civil war" had started to stagnate, the Ukrainian government was building up military strength to fight against Russia. He thinks that Ukrainians are fleeing west, and those that went to Russia can not go back because the Ukrainians will imprison or torture them for fleeing to Russia. He says Ukrainian groups commit crimes against humanity, not Russian PMCs He believes that the prison conscrips are good because they have the warrior spirit, they're disciplined, and they are true survivors. He says Wagner has operated under Russian military law for the last 9 years. He says the sledgehammer is the representation of justice and has only been used a few times for PR. He doesn't believe that Prigozhin was killed by the Russian government. He was part of the standard military, then 2 separate PMCs in Ukraine, and didn't take part in the mutiny. He refuses to say who he supports/talk on the mutiny because he doesn't want groups to take interest. He did say it was a march of justice against the Russian MIC and that it helped a lot of people. There are Wagner common language units with foreigners from Western nations and the Middle East. He never saw non Russian citizen fighters on his side during his time there, but he did come across dead Polish and Georgian fighters on the Ukrainian side. Polish military engineers have been doing good work for Ukrainian defenses, apparently. He believes British and American specialists in the area aren't volunteer forces but government forces. He says the reason Russia didn't win quickly is because they thought they would be able to come to a quick deal with Ukraine and didn't prepare for a longer, larger conflict. He got injured by a bullet and did 2 contracts after that. He says that Ukrainian losses are much larger than Russian ones, and he says this is basically World War 3, which is why there are so many casualties. They say Western products are more ubiquitous now because of trade through 3rd party nations. They believe that westerners aren't the enemy, but they believe it is an existential threat against them, and they are fighting for survival. He says he has a friend who fought on Ukraine's side and says they were very degenerate. War story: he was light infantry who was acting in support of the VDV. They were gathering intel, performing recognition/counter recognition services, and storming assualt operations. They were better outfitted and looked more professional than standard infantry because of this. When they came across other units, they were moral boosting for the Russian regulars. They were deployed at the more difficult areas and were tasked with breaking the Ukrainian lines in the middle of a forest line and clearing the trenches. He noticed that although the average age was 20 among them, they seemed much older and weathered, true warriors in his eyes. With only 17 men, they assaulted the Ukrainian trenches defended by 100+ men. They got wrecked in his words, but no one on his side died. He says even with 100 Ukrainians in the trench, Ukrainian artillery was working against them, probably causing blue on blue casualties as he said 2 days later the position was taken. He also says a funny bit where the hq sent a rocket to get immediately shot down by AA even though they had already witnessed 2 drones get downed by the same AA. He finishes the interview with saying he had heard that bucha wasn't Russian war crimes but the result of shelling and that one rape he did know of the Russian military executed the perpetrator. (Some odd notes they laughed hard about antifa actions in Ukraine probably eluding to it being Russian backed, they laughed hard about the afghan hat which eludes to them aiding Western opponents)
Antifa was a wrong word, and the narrative too plain and stereotypic,that’s why they laughed. They meant the narrative that pro Russian Ukrainians were against “fascism” referring to what happened in Odessa.
I wonder how many people in the West understand that February 24, 2022 is Russia's RESPONSE to the 8-year-old ATO (anti-terrorist operation) of the Kiev regime on the territory of their own country against part of their own population who disagree with the 2014 coup organized by the United States? PUNITIVE operation of the "Ukrainian SS" - nationalist battalions "Azov", "Aidar", "Dnepr"... against the civilian population of Donbass...
I've summarized this for people who might not have close to 3 hours to spend on this: (part 1 of 2) About halfway through the Willy OAM interview with Wagner soldier and some great moments that confirm what I've said before. 1. Wagner compared to Ukrainian nationalist battalions are much less violent when it comes to breaking the law in regards to war crimes. 2. Wagner has similar rules to regular military in regards to how they handle themselves. They are not allowed to commit war crimes or break the Geneva Conventions. 3. They don't get paid that much more compared to regular military so only patriots join since the pay is not great compared to western mercs so it doesn't make sense to risk your life for a little more money than the regular military. 4. Wagners security forces would punish anyone who abuses prison recruits and they are not allowed to use them in abusive ways. 5. The mythical sledgehammer is just a PR/propaganda device and has never been used to hurt anyone. It is just a fear tactic. 6. Prigozhin didn't die because "legends never die". 7. Prigozhin wasn't killed by Putin because our military and government officials aren't morons, they are actually smart. The only people he thinks could conceive of such a ridiculous conspiracy is a actor with a cocaine habit. 8. Wagner soldier does not think he is superior to Ukrainians. He sees the war similar to a civil war. He says Ukrainians are the same as Russians. (Part 2 of 2) The second half of the interview was a lot denser so it came out as a lot longer in writing which is why I have not numbered them. Here are the summarized main points I found salient: -Wagner warriors aren't drunks or drug addicts as people with such problems are not allowed to be active members. -March was a "march for justice" where they wanted to iron out some tiny details that Wagner felt was not correctly negotiated. The so-called "mutiny" achieved their demands. -Wagner has different units that are based around languages. For example, they have a English speaking unit, French speaking units, German, and Arabic speaking unit and so on of non-Russian citizens. No Australians however, but they joked with interviewer that he "would be the first one Willy". -Regarding if journalists are allowed in Wagner to report on them. Interviewee is not a commander so he can't really say other than to remark that it depends on the opinion of the unit’s commander and the PMC "information center" in regards to that topic but that he has observed international reporters, some even critical of the Russian government, working alongside some units. It really depends on if the news agency has connections to "destructive" entities. These are especially most common in Donetsk and Luhansk. -If Willy OAM wants to report on Wagner, they can try to help him regarding that however he won't be at the front line itself. Jokingly they mentioned that if Willy OAM insists however maybe they can help him visit those sites as well but if he died, they would absolutely be upset and very sad. So "don't do that please". -In regards to how his Wagner forces compared to western trained forces the interviewee states that ever since the instructors arrived the skill of the units have dropped "through the ground" and are a lot worse than when "Ukrainians were fighting themselves". -In regards to Western volunteers such as HIMARS specialists, Patriot operators, sappers/combat engineers, they are very much capable and skilled in their field and they deserve to "eat their bread" as they say in Russian (translator does not know how to translate this in another more literal way). -Specifically, in regards to Patriot battery operators he wanted to compliment them for managing to send 6 missiles into one Kinzhal missile before they were hammered by a Russian Kinzhal. He believes it’s a nice rate of fire in his opinion. Wagner soldier and translator started laughing afterwards. -Willy OAM then asks a loaded question regarding why the Russians are struggling on the battlefield then. Wagner soldier somewhat sarcastically says he has a higher education background and isn't a "r*dn*ck" so he doesn't know how to answer such a difficult question in a few sentences. He continues that the Russian government tried to negotiate to prevent this war behind the scenes and this was not public negotiations. Which is why initially the Russian government didn't prepare for a prolonged war (a war over 3 months). The Russian military doctrine has only been evolving for about a year. It was hard to understand the next statement but the translator said "at the moment we have fresh military intelligence" (it seemed like he was trying to say they have a current fresh military doctrine). -The next question was regarding how the general Russian public views him when he reveals to them, he has been a Wagner soldier. He simply answered "they just see me as a Russian soldier", as a defender of Russian land, and a Russian patriot. Wagner is viewed in an elevated manner or perhaps in a romanticized way due to their elite level of expertise. -They next discussed how the soldier got injured by a bullet to the back that went between his front and back armor plates during a storm assault type mission. When asked if he would return to the battlefield after his injury, he replied that he did two contracts after that injury and laughs before saying "because you can't kill Russians". Willy OAM presses on by stating "we have seen high Russian casualty figures". Wagner soldier states that they do have high losses and that they've lost all types of soldiers from all types of specialties but in relation to this basically being the third world war, when viewed in context, Ukrainians lose at least 4 soldiers for every Russian and in some places of combat there is even 7 Ukrainians to every Russian soldier killed. -They asked if they could just have a smoke break and talk about something other than the war for a moment so they talk about if sanctions have had any effect on western imports. They laugh and say they have too many western products and some products such as Coka Cola seems to be even cheaper than before the war. These products are acquired through third party agreements with nations like Iran, India, Poland, neighboring nations, etc. -Willy OAM wanted to know how people like them think of people like him. Do they view people like him as "enemies". He says they are obviously talking to him so they don't think negatively of people like him even if some of the questions he asks are a bit stupid for their own opinion (seems like he was trying to say "from the frame of reference where they are coming from"). They believe their enemies are those who want to destroy their civilization, their country, enslave them, and rape their children. They added their regime and government, although they might not like it themselves, they view people who want to remove their government as enemies as well because a civil war is the worst thing that can happen to their country. -They then pretend to not know where Australia is because they are orcs before saying it was a joke they actually know where Australia is. The medic then states he has been friends with a German guy who fought against Donbass in 2014-15 and that he remarked that he encountered Azov soldiers who he said were a bunch of degenerates that don't have anything in common with actual national socialism. The same German soldier was asked at the start of the SMO if he could help out again and he refused because he had previously been told by regular civilians to leave the country because he was a foreigner on Slavic lands and that he was trying to profit of their conflict. -Towards the end of the interview, they discussed Bucha and the Wagner soldier states that when Russian soldiers were giving out humanitarian aid the civilians were targeted by Ukrainian artillery which injured and killed a bunch of civilians since, unlike soldiers, they don't wear body armor and helmets. He added that when people who actually commit war crimes discusses situations where crimes were committed, they often talk in a joking manner such as saying "we did it for the lulz" but the soldiers that were in Irpin and Butcha were outraged that anyone would believe they committed such war crimes. Willy OAM pressed further and they replied that some of the soldiers who returned to Belarus afterwards were severely interrogated regarding what happened since the western media was making such a big fuss about everything. The only case they know of something happening around Kiev was a few men who did something to some young girl but the next day they summarily executed by gunshot for their crimes. If you don't like my summary, you are welcome to use a A.I. tool to summarize the interview instead.
@@makidiaz3894 nope, just trying to help knowledge spread and since I was already watching the interview, I figured I could help out people who might not have the time required to listen to it. It is rare in the west to get a actual window into the Russian world and Russian views.
Willy this is truly journalism in its most important, and purest sense. Hearing both sides in the moment, during the event, is critical for peace and for the curtailing of the bloodthirsty hate that can drag conflicts on long after the last shot is fired.
We have a long way to go. Undoing the rhetoric that has been installed in young minds on all sides. They think and believe exactly what I expected. And this is why I say we are a long way off. Going minds are impressionable but all you have to do ask yourself is who benefits by installing hate, division and pushes for violence against their neighbors. All countries do it so I’m not saying any of us are free from the burden but we keep making the same mistakes over and over. I know many see it but not enough call it out.🤷♂️old men lying and young men dying. And they think it matters what flag they fly.🤦♂️ This is the biggest generational curse that never seems to get broken.
@@sway696 I couldn’t agree more. I think this quote from Ernest Hemingway sums up the whole fallacy and tragedy of war quite succinctly: “An aggressive war is the great crime against everything good in the world. A defensive war, which must necessarily turn to aggressive at the earliest moment, is the necessary great counter-crime. But never think that war, no matter how necessary, nor how justified, is not a crime. Ask the infantry and ask the dead.”
We “westerners” don’t understand the Russian society, they are raised that their territory security is above all else. Their history is rooted in enduring times of unimaginable suffering that most can’t imagine. Look at any war Russia has been involved in and it’s been a complete cluster fuck the first year and then they adapt. Their man power and industrial capacity eventually comes to bear and its hard to match. We talk all this shit but what war have we won since WW2?…. I have my experiences and it’s hard for me to say that but it’s the truth
What are you even talking about? Russia is the biggest country on the planet, because all of Russia's history is basically invading neighbouring countries
Hats off to getting interviews like this. It just highlights the insanity of it all. Just a bunch of young guys who probably would all get along killing each other.
There is a reason why most of the worlds population oppose US hegemony in the world and thus are willing not only to de-dollarize, but also fight against US/NATO expansion.
@@ellengran6814You know that NATO membership is voluntary, yes? There is a reason why the baltics are happy to join NATO as opposed to ukraine which is being invaded for russian expansion. War is atrocious, but stop pretending like the US is the Third Reich
@@issintf925 Definition fascism/nazism : authoritarian, militarism, expansionism, cooperation between Big Businesses and government. When Mike Pompeo said : "US must rule the world" , he expressed what every US foreign minister has done since WW2 = cooperate with US Big Businesses in order to rule the world . Sounds typical fascism to me.
Willy, you might just be one of the most impartial and, simultaneously, well-informed journalists covering this conflict. Your updates are an absolutely vital resource to me. Thanks for all your coverage.
Is that a joke? I'll be honest, I was hoping for some thoughtful insight. Instead, these morons just got thrown a bunch of softballs which they then smashed with the exact same ridiculous rhetoric which they claimed not to listen to. This is like letting the old racist grandpa rant for two hours because we "need to hear both sides". What a fucking waste. This is disgraceful and the world deserves better than the worst conspiracy theories these giggling Russian clowns are inclined to blab on about.
You guys dont understand how nato played Ukraine in to war with Russia, thats so sad... this war is like brother vs brother because of a woman. YOU NEVER SHOULD FIGHT BECAUSE OF A WOMAN (in this case the woman is Usa/Eu/nato). Ukrainians should arrest that corrupt criminal clown Zelensky and other criminal politicians. Take a look on this one, Zelensky is a criminal: ruclips.net/video/ZgT0_Wv6N8o/видео.htmlfeature=shared
I've been learning Russian for over a year, and speaking with natives all over Eastern Europe, the guy on the right has pretty good English, and this was an amazing interesting video to help with my language learning, thank you!
That was a great watch. So interesting to hear the other side of the narrative. Willy is awesome, and I can't wait to see where this channel goes in the future. Much love brother❤
Another great interview Willy. I appreciate the opinions you provide from both sides and hope you can bring us more content in the future. Ivan is great and enjoy listening to his insights. Thank you Willy for what you do. Its very important to get the prospective of both sides.
Excellent video, good job from Ivan to translate. Willy I must say you sir are better than any journalist talking about this conflict, you empathize (without agreeing) with any of your interviewee and that allow for extensive and seemingly honest answers. Also your questions are good, straight to the point and always relevant. Great job sir.
What's BS is everyone fights each other but we are all so similar. Im sure if there was no war and politics the average person no matter the country could sit together just the same as with fellow country men
You can't even do that with "fellow" countrymen. Well, you're incredibly lucky if you can. If I were to sit together with mine I'd get beaten up at the very least and possibly reported to the authorities within 15 minutes if I were to shut myself off completely.
@@JustChill-zd4ibmaybe he lives in Russia? IDK about the beating but one of my friends got arrested for saying something mean about that journalist who got blown up by a car bomb in Moscow
I assume it's Libya he's referring to, a country that used to be nice and the richest country in Africa and now has open slave trade, no law and filled of religious extremists.
Kabul (Afghanistan) was once called " Paris of the East". Supported by Russia they build schools, roads etc. US choose to support the mujahedin and now the country is totally destroyed.
@@dvgsun He was talking about Syria but Wagner were in Libya in a more limited capacity not so long back, I'm fairly sure they were assisting Haftir's forces.
New subscriber here, you are a great interviewer. I love how you allow them to talk without cutting them off and how your professionalism redirects them back to the important topics instead of being provocative.
Yea, lots of it is lost. But that's not bad for an amateur. The main message comes through. Some post processing with subtitles by a second interp would be great.
@@genegene7028 Bro! what is forbidden in Russia for Western brands is bedtime stories for Western listeners!🤣Remember! any capitalist will do anything for profit! in my opinion, the salary in PMCs is not that small... and if you have a problem with a sense of humor, then about tea and washing glasses, it was sarcasm😄
@@Zemtsov_Artem I didn’t catch the russian humour . My bad bro. well anyways you guys still got fake rebranded McDonalds but to buy Coca Cola or swiss chocolate for example I heard that you need to go to “speciality store” and they are not common.
Thank you for taking the risk to have this interview Willy. Whether we agree or disagree, it's always good to hear both sides and make up our own minds.
Talking about personal relationships evolutions with ukranians he literaly says: "i felt like a jew at that point in nazi germany...but since i'm russian and not a jew, i didn't want to feel sad...i just wanted to destroy the enemy of my motherland" that's pretty based in my opinion.
Willy man if you, with your prior military experience, could get an interview with frontline Russian troops, that content would be interesting, especially with your prior military background. Maybe even do both sides of the same sector of the line. The interview with the AFU and RU units facing off would be really something
@@711liljay Eh FPVs and artillery is more dangerous then small arms fire in this case. It takes a few minutes until the russians have a ISTAR mission in the sky and a fire sortie following it up. They can also actively adjust it so it hits nearer the sector where AFU are. Scary shit ngl.
Bruh. That would just be a pointless sh@tshow with nothing to offer but drama. When you wish to interview someone, you need to invite them into a welcoming environment that will allow them to relax and express their true opinions and views. When people feel like they're being threatened, played or interrogated, they alter their narratives in defense. This is why 99.9% of modern journos are unprofessional dipsh@ts. They corner and attack. Willy is doing a pretty good job here, trying to pay attention and refraining from lashing out with his own opinions. He could still direct the conversation to his points of interest more subtly/indirectly, but he's ok. Maybe he'll get better with time if he keeps bringing in a diverse palette of guests.
Very interesting and rare interview, it really deserves an accurate translation, because Ivan was tired and was trying to cheer himself up, while Wagner guy gave serious and deep answers that were lost.
I think its great to here no only from the Ukraine side but from the Russian side as well. Thank you for giving us the opportunity to see both sides. Love your content.
Thank you Willy. I was hoping that you will interview a „musician“ some day. You are doing great work, this is my favorite channel covering the war. Cheers from Germany, legend ❤
Great podcast willie, love it, that you let all sides off the conflict get their word in. These are just real guys like anyone of us and this is a great opportunity to show the world we are all just people. I hope the killing stops soon and we as humanity can just band together and go on to do great things together. All this war and killing in the world is just futile..
@@gerri577 Insane, short-sighted, and again, deeply and criminally insane on so many levels (holistic, global, humanitarian, geopolitical, economical, ecological) was provoking this war in the first place. Even Russians did not anticipate this level of insanity and callousness. Instead of promoting peace and cooperation between all the nations there is always this greed, exploitation and zero sum game mentality combined with ideology (spreading democracy, American exceptionalism, etc) and eagerness to fund and arm proxy forces, and to start unwinnable conflicts. But this time the results are going to be worse and more embarrassing that the withdrawal from Afghanistan by US forces. Probably even deeper insanity was demonstrated by Ukrainian elites and various nationalistic and radical circles. Even if they had support of the West, I cannot fathom (well, everything has its reasons so I can but this is for emphasis) what they were thinking, as it has nothing to do with rationality. Instead of talking peace and smoothing things out, to enthusiastically and defiantly doom the entire country to war and destruction, to willingly become a proxy of a faraway foreign power in an unwinnable conflict against a very powerful yet culturally and ethnically close neighbour, to reject all the ties and notions of Ukraine and Russia being brotherly nations, to persecute and discriminate against a significant Russian-speaking minority de facto provoking a civil war in 2014 and then not doing anything to resolve the matter peacefully leading finally to the full blown war with Russia in 2022 (Russian SMO intervention/invasion), and then thinking that Ukraine with the Western support of second-hand and decommissioned hodge-podge weaponry can defeat Russia, can wrestle away Crimea and Donbas from Russia, and mind you, Russia is a nuclear and military superpower (hypersonic missiles and what not) with much larger population and industrial base; All of this is a basically insane. And, it is bad for Europe.
It's so fascinating how you have a mutual professional respect and understanding for each other when, if you were on the ground in Ukraine, you would be fighting against each other.
That’s the reason war is so pointless and absurd. Ultimately it’s young men, who have almost everything in common and would likely be great friends, that are sent to kill one another at the behest of stubborn rich men in gilded castles that can’t get along.
@@HE-162 I agree with you on the second part, the social elites get the most out of war with bearing far less of its risks than young men. However if you listen to what this guy and the translator say in their respective interviews i at least wouldnt want to be friends with them. Surely not because we believe in different facts… both them and us are manipulated by media campaigns and dont have a proper understanding of the whole situation. I just couldnt be friends with someone who decided to kill because he got bored with his civilian life or to combat „the global homo“. Im not some woke leftist (i actually served a few years not so long ago) but i believe in reason and personal freedom.
@HE-162 that's what the start was about, they feel like their fighting their brothers but believe this is the right path. Be it right or wrong, we won't know until it'll end as only then the truth will come out
It took me several sessions to watch it all, but thanks nevertheless: Thank you very much Willy for this great work. Thanks for sharing the view from the other side of this conflict. I also want to thank Ivan and Kum for sharing your view, opinion and experience of this story. It is for sure not easy to show and defend your point of view and even though I don´t agree with many of your opinions I am gratefull you explained them to me and the others watching this. Hopefully this will help after the end of the conflict and when justice has been served to see both "lower level" involved armed forces as humans which is the most important part!
@@gamercatsz5441 You really believe average people from different countries are different to you? We are all the same, we want peace not war. our leaders with influence from the cabal cause these problems
Hey willy thanks for this. My father also loves this content. Thanks for the bonding time with my pops! but also this interview really humanize the other side for me...
thank you to willy, ivan and masked man for this interview. its good to have several views on conflicts and not only a one sided view. the last interview with ivan was a highlight of youtube and i watched it several times, this one is qualitative less interesting because of the language barrage and the translation, but the value is insinuative. good job on both parts for giving insight to what is suppressed by media.
G'day legends, I hope you've had a great start to the week,
Todays Podcast is with Kum a Russian Soldier who has served in Multiple PMC's Including PMC Wagner. And was wounded in Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Wagner has been in the spotlight more so than usual with the death of Prigozhin and Utkin over the past week.
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Just curious Willy - if you were a WW2 soldier, you would have interviewed German soldiers to show that they made nothing wrong? First you interview a real blonde nazy russian "war medic" who called to defend motherland " killing everyone" outside his "motherland", now a "hero" of wagner whom being a nazy found nazies everywhere. Maybe you are a nazy Willie?
Would have been nice to know how different soldiering for Russia 🇷🇺 was from soldiering in Wagner PMC
Thanks for your effort Willy.
Love ya work Willie, good luck with the algorithm (it'll probably massacre this video if it stays up at all). In the rare case that happens are you able to get someone to translate the Russian side of this and provide "unbiased" subtitles?
Thanks for your service, mate. You're doing good work here, bro.
As someone who speaks Russian, hat's off to Ivan for great translation as an amateur.
Love hearing from that guy, he’s a great translator, his English is good and funny as well 👍
Let’s not forget who he is though.
@@hContentOftheInternet Oh no! the horror!
@@hContentOftheInternethe’s a medic who has saved the lives of his brothers. He’s not personally responsible for the decisions of his country, but nevertheless he had a duty to his people and he has done the best with what he has. At the end of the day, he is a person like anyone else
We'd be better off with a million of him than one of you.
I get the impression that Wagner is a easy way for Russians to get a Marine Corp-like experience without having to put up with a huge bureaucracy.
after searving 2 plus years in ordinary Russian army they can join Wagner....If execpett......usually you need more experiece than that...😮...soooo....
@@Lipi19821 Any able bodied person can join Wagner, provided they speak Russian. However, Wagner may no longer exist as it is anymore. There is no need for prior service. It was the case in the past though where only veterans was allowed in.
@@CaliellGiven how they mentioned entire Wagner units with dedicated languages, has the Russian language requirement been relaxed? If so, that may explain how they increased their size so quickly
@Stealingiscaring It's amazing what armies will do when they need a lot of dudes like yesterday. "You got a pulse and you can walk? WELCOME ABOARD DUDE!" That's how I got into the Guard anyway. 🤷♂️
@@Stealingiscaringno, Russian language is necessary. Most of the former ussr speak Russian anyway. You have Kazakhs and even Ukrainians signing up too
The funny thing about this interview that they openly mock Russian TV propaganda, while the majority of Australians cannot detect propaganda in state news and genuinely believe what they told.
Like everybody in the west.
West is demoralized.
Russian propaganda is over the top ridiculous. Satanism, Nazism, organ trafficking of refugees etc, Western stuff is subtler and consequently more believable.
Seems like everywhere tbh
Propaganda is everywhere - only in Russia it's true, lol. At the same time, Russia, with all its resources, expanses and great Soviet heritage: sucks on all counts, from the standard of living to the combat effectiveness of the army.
I am a professional interpreter, could provide free translation next time, if interested reply to this comment. A lot of meaning gets lost, things like this need precise and conscious interpretation, along with terminology, cultural customs, extra comments, etc. Lived and worked in the US for 5 years, native Russian speaker.
Тут скорее не с самим переводом проблема, а с тем, что переводчик, добавляет много отсебятины
Yeap completely agree some things were lost in translation, and Ivan added a lot of things Kum did not say but to be honest I'm not mad since he was also in the military and his perspective is relevant.
@@frostwater3219at 10:00 what unit does he say he was inv
I'm Asian American and have been learning Russian for 4 years, in general my interests are in linguistics and the Russian language. Hopefully I can get to the point which you are at someday. Thanks for sharing.
По факту это просто интервью с двумя людьми
No one's going to believe me when i say this but I literally thought to myself 2 hours ago "Man I wonder if Willy would ever interview a Wagner fella, whats up with those guys?" and like the parrot who shit on me when I was 9, Willy has swooped in and dropped greatness right on my head, Thank You Big Man 🙏
Thanks Nostradamus 😂 JK, bro. You should buy a lottery ticket!
get real mate,
no Russian or Wagner soldier would ever do an interview with Willy or any western journo
and l mean ever
it has been noted the amount of propaganda BS Wagner videos getting around utube recently
dont get sucked in
well said
Lmao what a great comment
ofc the subhuman vatnik Willy gives a podium to warcriminals lmao
and ofc his subhuman filthy orc loving comment section loves it
😂😂😂😂😂😂
priceless, subhumans
You’re a legend Willy, unbiased journalist. Excellent work
Unbiased?
Mmmmmm...
i do notice how much willy is more willing to joke around with invaders that went to Afghanistan then invaders that went to Ukraine. it was funny seeing that interview with that Texas guy that was part of the invasion of Afghanistan and in the same interview the guy said invaders must be unalived
@@henryrollins9177just take it in Henry. I want to know everything I can about certain people. I’ll draw my own conclusions just like I’m sure you will my friend.👍But we can be smart enough to know that we all aren’t certainly on the same page in this world. Take care my friend. They know what they’re told as do most of us. Seeing what they are told and believe and how they think and feel is valuable. Naive young men. No different than naive young men from anywhere else. The only difference is what they are convinced is their purpose. Their choices will chew them up and spit them out just like it does is all.
@@henryrollins9177 YEA UNBIASED! ya know reporting where you give platform to all sides, and then you critically research. (dummy)
@@sway696you’re only coming with your own conclusions from western media! They banned Sputnik and RT Russian news outlets from the west so how exactly do you draw your own conclusions? From CNN? BBC? or this channel lol, I seriously doubt it!
Мы победим !
Так точно 🫡
Слышу zov
Слава России
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Man this was the longest felt video ever with the language barrier, translator’s accent, CC completely not working on RUclips, but it was great this is an actual journalistic achievement. If this was back in 90s’ you would be collecting journalism rewards left and right for the past year.
Thank you for keeping everyone informed with both perspectives
You guys dont understand how nato played Ukraine in to war with Russia, thats so sad... this war is like brother vs brother because of a woman. YOU NEVER SHOULD FIGHT BECAUSE OF A WOMAN (in this case the woman is Usa/Eu/nato).
Ukrainians should arrest that corrupt criminal clown Zelensky and other criminal politicians.
Take a look on this one, Zelensky is a criminal:
ruclips.net/video/ZgT0_Wv6N8o/видео.htmlfeature=shared
Ive been listening here and there to this for almost two weeks. Nearly at the end! The glass cleaner was hilarious.
Ivan's accent is quite good, especially if you compare his to the accents of most Russians who speak English. Not to mention his vocabulary and grammar lands him between B2-C1 level of fluency.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, regardless of sides the soldiers are the most important part and Willy has brought more interviews pertinent to this conflict than ALL other RUclipsrs. Huge respect Willy, I’m sure I’ll enjoy this like all the others you’ve done
These aren’t soldiers, they’re mercenaries
I hear what you are saying mate, but would argue the innocents civilians who didn't ask for war are as important if not more so.
@@SevenRavens007 unlike the unpatched American, English polish, Australian, Greek, Estonian, French, Lithuanian, etc etc etc etc etc etc fighting on behalf of Ukraine?
@@baddaddy8718 They structurally belong to the TDF under the International Legion and thus via international law they indeed constitute as soldiers. Edit: Fixed typo.
@@baddaddy8718 they joined the Ukrainian armed forces, Wagner did not join the Russian armed forces.
Great work, as far as I know this is the only channel that does interviews of both sides in this war👍👍
ruclips.net/video/zkso9c86P3E/видео.html
Alex interviewed a Chechen that did clearing operations in Mariupol.
that WAS NOT a interview ...in a interview 1 party asked another questions and they answer them ...here 1 guy would ask a question and the other 2 would laugh and say what they thought about ukraine ...example ... "how did you feel about russia stepping into ukraine first" .... Kum.guy.willy/let.go/on.3.hour.rant.without.answering.a.question-"ukraine has been killing children since 2014..they are just like us but I want to kill them all" ......ok .,..well the question was......HOW DID YOU FEEL RUSSIA is the one that invaded ukraine......and that was just repeated over and over and over .....and now everyone is like ""omg that was such great ground breaking work" ....are you freaking kidding me go watch it again ....maybe the best thing to do is just put in the title "listen to wagner guys talk for 3 hours" ...thats what that is ..that was not a interview
Okay, so kind of a summary, i think, is:
After he was in the service, he joined Wagner and went to either the Middle East or Africa because he feels the Western international order is unfair and wants a multipolar world.
He joined the fight in Ukraine because of the large and growing presence of anti-russian ethnicity comments online.
He feels Russia invaded Ukraine because after the "civil war" had started to stagnate, the Ukrainian government was building up military strength to fight against Russia.
He thinks that Ukrainians are fleeing west, and those that went to Russia can not go back because the Ukrainians will imprison or torture them for fleeing to Russia.
He says Ukrainian groups commit crimes against humanity, not Russian PMCs
He believes that the prison conscrips are good because they have the warrior spirit, they're disciplined, and they are true survivors.
He says Wagner has operated under Russian military law for the last 9 years.
He says the sledgehammer is the representation of justice and has only been used a few times for PR.
He doesn't believe that Prigozhin was killed by the Russian government.
He was part of the standard military, then 2 separate PMCs in Ukraine, and didn't take part in the mutiny.
He refuses to say who he supports/talk on the mutiny because he doesn't want groups to take interest. He did say it was a march of justice against the Russian MIC and that it helped a lot of people.
There are Wagner common language units with foreigners from Western nations and the Middle East. He never saw non Russian citizen fighters on his side during his time there, but he did come across dead Polish and Georgian fighters on the Ukrainian side.
Polish military engineers have been doing good work for Ukrainian defenses, apparently. He believes British and American specialists in the area aren't volunteer forces but government forces.
He says the reason Russia didn't win quickly is because they thought they would be able to come to a quick deal with Ukraine and didn't prepare for a longer, larger conflict.
He got injured by a bullet and did 2 contracts after that.
He says that Ukrainian losses are much larger than Russian ones, and he says this is basically World War 3, which is why there are so many casualties.
They say Western products are more ubiquitous now because of trade through 3rd party nations.
They believe that westerners aren't the enemy, but they believe it is an existential threat against them, and they are fighting for survival.
He says he has a friend who fought on Ukraine's side and says they were very degenerate.
War story: he was light infantry who was acting in support of the VDV. They were gathering intel, performing recognition/counter recognition services, and storming assualt operations. They were better outfitted and looked more professional than standard infantry because of this. When they came across other units, they were moral boosting for the Russian regulars. They were deployed at the more difficult areas and were tasked with breaking the Ukrainian lines in the middle of a forest line and clearing the trenches. He noticed that although the average age was 20 among them, they seemed much older and weathered, true warriors in his eyes. With only 17 men, they assaulted the Ukrainian trenches defended by 100+ men. They got wrecked in his words, but no one on his side died. He says even with 100 Ukrainians in the trench, Ukrainian artillery was working against them, probably causing blue on blue casualties as he said 2 days later the position was taken. He also says a funny bit where the hq sent a rocket to get immediately shot down by AA even though they had already witnessed 2 drones get downed by the same AA.
He finishes the interview with saying he had heard that bucha wasn't Russian war crimes but the result of shelling and that one rape he did know of the Russian military executed the perpetrator.
(Some odd notes they laughed hard about antifa actions in Ukraine probably eluding to it being Russian backed, they laughed hard about the afghan hat which eludes to them aiding Western opponents)
Thanks for saving me 2 hours!👍
Antifa was a wrong word, and the narrative too plain and stereotypic,that’s why they laughed. They meant the narrative that pro Russian Ukrainians were against “fascism” referring to what happened in Odessa.
Thanks for taking the time to do this. Helped me a lot.
I wonder how many people in the West understand that February 24, 2022 is Russia's RESPONSE to the 8-year-old ATO (anti-terrorist operation) of the Kiev regime on the territory of their own country against part of their own population who disagree with the 2014 coup organized by the United States? PUNITIVE operation of the "Ukrainian SS" - nationalist battalions "Azov", "Aidar", "Dnepr"... against the civilian population of Donbass...
Fair summary. Thanks!
I've summarized this for people who might not have close to 3 hours to spend on this:
(part 1 of 2)
About halfway through the Willy OAM interview with Wagner soldier and some great moments that confirm what I've said before.
1. Wagner compared to Ukrainian nationalist battalions are much less violent when it comes to breaking the law in regards to war crimes.
2. Wagner has similar rules to regular military in regards to how they handle themselves. They are not allowed to commit war crimes or break the Geneva Conventions.
3. They don't get paid that much more compared to regular military so only patriots join since the pay is not great compared to western mercs so it doesn't make sense to risk your life for a little more money than the regular military.
4. Wagners security forces would punish anyone who abuses prison recruits and they are not allowed to use them in abusive ways.
5. The mythical sledgehammer is just a PR/propaganda device and has never been used to hurt anyone. It is just a fear tactic.
6. Prigozhin didn't die because "legends never die".
7. Prigozhin wasn't killed by Putin because our military and government officials aren't morons, they are actually smart. The only people he thinks could conceive of such a ridiculous conspiracy is a actor with a cocaine habit.
8. Wagner soldier does not think he is superior to Ukrainians. He sees the war similar to a civil war. He says Ukrainians are the same as Russians.
(Part 2 of 2)
The second half of the interview was a lot denser so it came out as a lot longer in writing which is why I have not numbered them. Here are the summarized main points I found salient:
-Wagner warriors aren't drunks or drug addicts as people with such problems are not allowed to be active members.
-March was a "march for justice" where they wanted to iron out some tiny details that Wagner felt was not correctly negotiated. The so-called "mutiny" achieved their demands.
-Wagner has different units that are based around languages. For example, they have a English speaking unit, French speaking units, German, and Arabic speaking unit and so on of non-Russian citizens. No Australians however, but they joked with interviewer that he "would be the first one Willy".
-Regarding if journalists are allowed in Wagner to report on them. Interviewee is not a commander so he can't really say other than to remark that it depends on the opinion of the unit’s commander and the PMC "information center" in regards to that topic but that he has observed international reporters, some even critical of the Russian government, working alongside some units. It really depends on if the news agency has connections to "destructive" entities. These are especially most common in Donetsk and Luhansk.
-If Willy OAM wants to report on Wagner, they can try to help him regarding that however he won't be at the front line itself. Jokingly they mentioned that if Willy OAM insists however maybe they can help him visit those sites as well but if he died, they would absolutely be upset and very sad. So "don't do that please".
-In regards to how his Wagner forces compared to western trained forces the interviewee states that ever since the instructors arrived the skill of the units have dropped "through the ground" and are a lot worse than when "Ukrainians were fighting themselves".
-In regards to Western volunteers such as HIMARS specialists, Patriot operators, sappers/combat engineers, they are very much capable and skilled in their field and they deserve to "eat their bread" as they say in Russian (translator does not know how to translate this in another more literal way).
-Specifically, in regards to Patriot battery operators he wanted to compliment them for managing to send 6 missiles into one Kinzhal missile before they were hammered by a Russian Kinzhal. He believes it’s a nice rate of fire in his opinion. Wagner soldier and translator started laughing afterwards.
-Willy OAM then asks a loaded question regarding why the Russians are struggling on the battlefield then. Wagner soldier somewhat sarcastically says he has a higher education background and isn't a "r*dn*ck" so he doesn't know how to answer such a difficult question in a few sentences. He continues that the Russian government tried to negotiate to prevent this war behind the scenes and this was not public negotiations. Which is why initially the Russian government didn't prepare for a prolonged war (a war over 3 months). The Russian military doctrine has only been evolving for about a year. It was hard to understand the next statement but the translator said "at the moment we have fresh military intelligence" (it seemed like he was trying to say they have a current fresh military doctrine).
-The next question was regarding how the general Russian public views him when he reveals to them, he has been a Wagner soldier. He simply answered "they just see me as a Russian soldier", as a defender of Russian land, and a Russian patriot. Wagner is viewed in an elevated manner or perhaps in a romanticized way due to their elite level of expertise.
-They next discussed how the soldier got injured by a bullet to the back that went between his front and back armor plates during a storm assault type mission. When asked if he would return to the battlefield after his injury, he replied that he did two contracts after that injury and laughs before saying "because you can't kill Russians". Willy OAM presses on by stating "we have seen high Russian casualty figures". Wagner soldier states that they do have high losses and that they've lost all types of soldiers from all types of specialties but in relation to this basically being the third world war, when viewed in context, Ukrainians lose at least 4 soldiers for every Russian and in some places of combat there is even 7 Ukrainians to every Russian soldier killed.
-They asked if they could just have a smoke break and talk about something other than the war for a moment so they talk about if sanctions have had any effect on western imports. They laugh and say they have too many western products and some products such as Coka Cola seems to be even cheaper than before the war. These products are acquired through third party agreements with nations like Iran, India, Poland, neighboring nations, etc.
-Willy OAM wanted to know how people like them think of people like him. Do they view people like him as "enemies". He says they are obviously talking to him so they don't think negatively of people like him even if some of the questions he asks are a bit stupid for their own opinion (seems like he was trying to say "from the frame of reference where they are coming from"). They believe their enemies are those who want to destroy their civilization, their country, enslave them, and rape their children. They added their regime and government, although they might not like it themselves, they view people who want to remove their government as enemies as well because a civil war is the worst thing that can happen to their country.
-They then pretend to not know where Australia is because they are orcs before saying it was a joke they actually know where Australia is. The medic then states he has been friends with a German guy who fought against Donbass in 2014-15 and that he remarked that he encountered Azov soldiers who he said were a bunch of degenerates that don't have anything in common with actual national socialism. The same German soldier was asked at the start of the SMO if he could help out again and he refused because he had previously been told by regular civilians to leave the country because he was a foreigner on Slavic lands and that he was trying to profit of their conflict.
-Towards the end of the interview, they discussed Bucha and the Wagner soldier states that when Russian soldiers were giving out humanitarian aid the civilians were targeted by Ukrainian artillery which injured and killed a bunch of civilians since, unlike soldiers, they don't wear body armor and helmets. He added that when people who actually commit war crimes discusses situations where crimes were committed, they often talk in a joking manner such as saying "we did it for the lulz" but the soldiers that were in Irpin and Butcha were outraged that anyone would believe they committed such war crimes. Willy OAM pressed further and they replied that some of the soldiers who returned to Belarus afterwards were severely interrogated regarding what happened since the western media was making such a big fuss about everything. The only case they know of something happening around Kiev was a few men who did something to some young girl but the next day they summarily executed by gunshot for their crimes.
If you don't like my summary, you are welcome to use a A.I. tool to summarize the interview instead.
cheers for that!
What program did you use
@@makidiaz3894 none, this is my own personal summary of the segments I found most significant.
@@Jean-Seb r u trained to do this? Good job
@@makidiaz3894 nope, just trying to help knowledge spread and since I was already watching the interview, I figured I could help out people who might not have the time required to listen to it. It is rare in the west to get a actual window into the Russian world and Russian views.
Willy is gonna go down as the worlds best content creator/reporter for constantly allowing for all parties to speak and weigh in
He's doom and gloom journalism almost every title is click bait
@@fruitlandgrizzlyand ultra biased towards Nafo...
He’s definitely a NAFO fanboy, very biased .
The fact is if nato didn’t get involved in Ukraine there wouldn’t be a war in Ukraine period!!
@fruitlandgrizzly 1st day on RUclips?
Willy this is truly journalism in its most important, and purest sense. Hearing both sides in the moment, during the event, is critical for peace and for the curtailing of the bloodthirsty hate that can drag conflicts on long after the last shot is fired.
We have a long way to go. Undoing the rhetoric that has been installed in young minds on all sides. They think and believe exactly what I expected. And this is why I say we are a long way off. Going minds are impressionable but all you have to do ask yourself is who benefits by installing hate, division and pushes for violence against their neighbors. All countries do it so I’m not saying any of us are free from the burden but we keep making the same mistakes over and over. I know many see it but not enough call it out.🤷♂️old men lying and young men dying. And they think it matters what flag they fly.🤦♂️ This is the biggest generational curse that never seems to get broken.
@@sway696 I couldn’t agree more. I think this quote from Ernest Hemingway sums up the whole fallacy and tragedy of war quite succinctly:
“An aggressive war is the great crime against everything good in the world. A defensive war, which must necessarily turn to aggressive at the earliest moment, is the necessary great counter-crime. But never think that war, no matter how necessary, nor how justified, is not a crime. Ask the infantry and ask the dead.”
@@sway696 Russians have tried to erase our culture before and are doing it now. The biggest curse to us are Russians
@sway696 The old lie;
How sweet & fitting it is to die for ones country.
@@larrydean6550I like Patton’s quote better, “Let the other guy die for his country…”
We “westerners” don’t understand the Russian society, they are raised that their territory security is above all else. Their history is rooted in enduring times of unimaginable suffering that most can’t imagine. Look at any war Russia has been involved in and it’s been a complete cluster fuck the first year and then they adapt. Their man power and industrial capacity eventually comes to bear and its hard to match. We talk all this shit but what war have we won since WW2?…. I have my experiences and it’s hard for me to say that but it’s the truth
What are you even talking about? Russia is the biggest country on the planet, because all of Russia's history is basically invading neighbouring countries
Much suffering they brought on themselves
@@VaughnCT0292I make deals with Nazis as well. They are going to help me in my conquests! I sure hope nothing bad happens with this alliance...
Nice one mate! Nice to see you getting all sides of the story out there! Hopefully more to come🤞🏼
Wow, this is one for the history books. Good job securing this one Willy 👍🏽
Hats off to getting interviews like this. It just highlights the insanity of it all. Just a bunch of young guys who probably would all get along killing each other.
I bet they’ll all end up swapping stories in a bar in Phuket some years from now, if they make it.
Wolves led by sheeps.
There is a reason why most of the worlds population oppose US hegemony in the world and thus are willing not only to de-dollarize, but also fight against US/NATO expansion.
@@ellengran6814You know that NATO membership is voluntary, yes? There is a reason why the baltics are happy to join NATO as opposed to ukraine which is being invaded for russian expansion. War is atrocious, but stop pretending like the US is the Third Reich
@@issintf925 Definition fascism/nazism : authoritarian, militarism, expansionism, cooperation between Big Businesses and government. When Mike Pompeo said : "US must rule the world" , he expressed what every US foreign minister has done since WW2 = cooperate with US Big Businesses in order to rule the world . Sounds typical fascism to me.
Willy, you might just be one of the most impartial and, simultaneously, well-informed journalists covering this conflict. Your updates are an absolutely vital resource to me. Thanks for all your coverage.
Patrick Lancaster
@@viktorsoderstjerna5528 Excuse me for not wholly trusting media embedded with fascists.
Patrick is the least impartial of them all.
Is that a joke? I'll be honest, I was hoping for some thoughtful insight. Instead, these morons just got thrown a bunch of softballs which they then smashed with the exact same ridiculous rhetoric which they claimed not to listen to.
This is like letting the old racist grandpa rant for two hours because we "need to hear both sides". What a fucking waste. This is disgraceful and the world deserves better than the worst conspiracy theories these giggling Russian clowns are inclined to blab on about.
You guys dont understand how nato played Ukraine in to war with Russia, thats so sad... this war is like brother vs brother because of a woman. YOU NEVER SHOULD FIGHT BECAUSE OF A WOMAN (in this case the woman is Usa/Eu/nato).
Ukrainians should arrest that corrupt criminal clown Zelensky and other criminal politicians.
Take a look on this one, Zelensky is a criminal:
ruclips.net/video/ZgT0_Wv6N8o/видео.htmlfeature=shared
I've been learning Russian for over a year, and speaking with natives all over Eastern Europe, the guy on the right has pretty good English, and this was an amazing interesting video to help with my language learning, thank you!
Excellent interview. Thank you for your work Willy.
Thank you Willy. We truly appreciate your integrity.
this is some kick ass journalism man i hope to see these guys around more
That was a great watch. So interesting to hear the other side of the narrative. Willy is awesome, and I can't wait to see where this channel goes in the future. Much love brother❤
Excellent content Willy. No one else has the balls to do what you’re doing, keep up the good work!
This is cracking the code Willy. Outstanding journalism
Well done Willy, so important to be aware of all the narratives in this terrible War.
Another great interview Willy. I appreciate the opinions you provide from both sides and hope you can bring us more content in the future. Ivan is great and enjoy listening to his insights. Thank you Willy for what you do. Its very important to get the prospective of both sides.
Excellent interview and good to let the guys speak. Keep up such a format and promote different views. People need to see this.
Happy to hear this interview, Im glad he agreed to do it
Raw and unfiltered is so valuable no matter what your opinion. Thankyou for this. Keep up the good work.
Excellent video, good job from Ivan to translate. Willy I must say you sir are better than any journalist talking about this conflict, you empathize (without agreeing) with any of your interviewee and that allow for extensive and seemingly honest answers. Also your questions are good, straight to the point and always relevant.
Great job sir.
thankyou mate!
@@willyOAMI admire how you kept yourself calm and professional. It was a difficult interview.
What's BS is everyone fights each other but we are all so similar. Im sure if there was no war and politics the average person no matter the country could sit together just the same as with fellow country men
You can't even do that with "fellow" countrymen. Well, you're incredibly lucky if you can. If I were to sit together with mine I'd get beaten up at the very least and possibly reported to the authorities within 15 minutes if I were to shut myself off completely.
@@juanblanco7898 what are you talking about?
@@JustChill-zd4ibmaybe he lives in Russia? IDK about the beating but one of my friends got arrested for saying something mean about that journalist who got blown up by a car bomb in Moscow
I assume it's Libya he's referring to, a country that used to be nice and the richest country in Africa and now has open slave trade, no law and filled of religious extremists.
Верно!
Bingo :-)
Kabul (Afghanistan) was once called " Paris of the East". Supported by Russia they build schools, roads etc. US choose to support the mujahedin and now the country is totally destroyed.
Probably Syria , don't think Wagner was in Libya
@@dvgsun He was talking about Syria but Wagner were in Libya in a more limited capacity not so long back, I'm fairly sure they were assisting Haftir's forces.
Thank you as always Willy you are an absolute legend my man
New subscriber here, you are a great interviewer. I love how you allow them to talk without cutting them off and how your professionalism redirects them back to the important topics instead of being provocative.
This is real journalism, once again ty for an interview we wouldn’t see any where else 👏🏽
Hearing both sides of the story is the path to Peace. Well done Willy.
Facts
Yea, because a 'PMC' is sooooo intersted in 'peace'. Get the hell outta here you low IQ Vatnik.
Yes and telling the west to get the f@#k out of Ukraine!
What a ridiculous statement.
It would be the path to peace if both sides told the truth and was honest but they just love telling lies that suit their sides.
Amazing work yet again mate. Keep up the good work!
Thank You for showing the both sides in this bloody war
Willy, You Rock!! Keep up the great work!
The Fighter has a very competent Russian speech, he uses complex expressions and concepts,................ but the translator simplifies everything.
Russians that can speak Russian. Wild.
I guess any Wagner wanting to do this is going to be above average
Yea, lots of it is lost. But that's not bad for an amateur. The main message comes through.
Some post processing with subtitles by a second interp would be great.
Well to be fair being able to speak a language doesn't mean you can translate the language well. That takes a whole other level of proficiency.
Glad you interview fighters from both side, and appreciate your style and approach. Keep up the good work @willyOAM.
To have tea with these guys would be awesome!!!
Tea?? unlikely...glass cleaner!!🤣🤣🤣
@@Zemtsov_Artem tea isn’t that expensive lol I’m sure his puny PMC salary can still afford it. He’s even got a red bull! Aren’t those banned there lol
@@genegene7028 Bro! what is forbidden in Russia for Western brands is bedtime stories for Western listeners!🤣Remember! any capitalist will do anything for profit! in my opinion, the salary in PMCs is not that small... and if you have a problem with a sense of humor, then about tea and washing glasses, it was sarcasm😄
@@Zemtsov_Artem I didn’t catch the russian humour . My bad bro. well anyways you guys still got fake rebranded McDonalds but to buy Coca Cola or swiss chocolate for example I heard that you need to go to “speciality store” and they are not common.
@@genegene7028 Bro! Tell me, where are you from??
Great interview. You're very good at interviewing Willy. Good questions and no interruptions like on tv news
It's incredibly important to have this kind of open journalism.
Absolutely!
not really
Ok imagine we would have inteviews with SS in ww2 during the war, would you still call it open journalism we need?
Yes
@@17MrLeonyes god gives us freedom
Great vid Willy thank you so much, what an amazing perspective you have put to light here mate. 👏👏
Thank you for your work Willy
great journalism thank u all
An important interview Willy. Nicely done.
Awesome, Thanks Willy!
Thanks for this unbiased interview. Awesome reporting!
Huge respect to Willy for this interview
Thank you for taking the risk to have this interview Willy. Whether we agree or disagree, it's always good to hear both sides and make up our own minds.
Talking about personal relationships evolutions with ukranians he literaly says: "i felt like a jew at that point in nazi germany...but since i'm russian and not a jew, i didn't want to feel sad...i just wanted to destroy the enemy of my motherland" that's pretty based in my opinion.
Willy man if you, with your prior military experience, could get an interview with frontline Russian troops, that content would be interesting, especially with your prior military background. Maybe even do both sides of the same sector of the line. The interview with the AFU and RU units facing off would be really something
How to avoid getting mowed down in cross fire
Damn that interview would be brutal but would be interesting nonetheless.
@@711liljay Eh FPVs and artillery is more dangerous then small arms fire in this case. It takes a few minutes until the russians have a ISTAR mission in the sky and a fire sortie following it up. They can also actively adjust it so it hits nearer the sector where AFU are. Scary shit ngl.
Bruh. That would just be a pointless sh@tshow with nothing to offer but drama. When you wish to interview someone, you need to invite them into a welcoming environment that will allow them to relax and express their true opinions and views. When people feel like they're being threatened, played or interrogated, they alter their narratives in defense. This is why 99.9% of modern journos are unprofessional dipsh@ts. They corner and attack. Willy is doing a pretty good job here, trying to pay attention and refraining from lashing out with his own opinions. He could still direct the conversation to his points of interest more subtly/indirectly, but he's ok. Maybe he'll get better with time if he keeps bringing in a diverse palette of guests.
if youve ever seen any . youll understand how hilarious the selection of propagandawillys people is
Good work with the interview Willy, very interesting. Somewhat chilling and amusing at the same time.
That was a great interview... probably the best one... KUDOS for that one Willy!
Those guys were great, thank you
Journalism on a highest level! Great work!
Great work Willy - it’s great to see a diverse range of interviewees. Let’s hope RUclips doesn’t Nerf this interview
Thanks for the interview
One of the best interviews you've done @Willy OAM!
WOW!! You sir are a savage in the name of journalism.👍 as always killing it
Very interesting and rare interview, it really deserves an accurate translation, because Ivan was tired and was trying to cheer himself up, while Wagner guy gave serious and deep answers that were lost.
Wow, that was an amazing interview.
Best interview you had so far Willy.
thanks to kum and ivan for telling there site of the war and of course thanks to willy for making this kind of content...!!!
Tru crazy Slavs! Much love from allso crazy brother Serb 💪🫡
🤝🤙Да благословит тебя Бог, брат
God bless Serbia
🇷🇸 🇷🇺 🙏
Hope both sides come to a peaceful resolution for all Slavs
Brilliant interview Willy, that guys hardcore
Great work Willy !
I think its great to here no only from the Ukraine side but from the Russian side as well. Thank you for giving us the opportunity to see both sides. Love your content.
Why LOL? From invaders would you want to know? How to invade yourself?
We know what the Russian side is about. Rather argue this in an individual level, regardless of nationality
@@Rage_Harder_Then_RelaxYou don’t want to understand the perspective of the opposing side? This logic accomplishes nothing and makes situations worse.
@@Rage_Harder_Then_Relaxprovoked war thx usa as always.
@@florinszasz5506 provoked when zelensky literally refused to put troops on the border because he was convinced russia wouldnt invade
Light Infantry, = 800 Pounds of high speed lightweight gear.
Excellent interview. Very interesting. Great journalism
Willys interviews are going to go down in history - for real. Legend.
Those guys were just happy to be on TV.
Thank you Willy. I was hoping that you will interview a „musician“ some day.
You are doing great work, this is my favorite channel covering the war.
Cheers from Germany, legend ❤
Willy your coverage on this conflict is 2nd to none!
thanks Willy, Kum, and Ivan!
Finally an interview in Russian! I can watch without subtitles.
with you bro
Great podcast willie, love it, that you let all sides off the conflict get their word in. These are just real guys like anyone of us and this is a great opportunity to show the world we are all just people.
I hope the killing stops soon and we as humanity can just band together and go on to do great things together. All this war and killing in the world is just futile..
Totally agree, I couldn't agree more.
not just futile....insane
@@gerri577 Insane, short-sighted, and again, deeply and criminally insane on so many levels (holistic, global, humanitarian, geopolitical, economical, ecological) was provoking this war in the first place. Even Russians did not anticipate this level of insanity and callousness. Instead of promoting peace and cooperation between all the nations there is always this greed, exploitation and zero sum game mentality combined with ideology (spreading democracy, American exceptionalism, etc) and eagerness to fund and arm proxy forces, and to start unwinnable conflicts. But this time the results are going to be worse and more embarrassing that the withdrawal from Afghanistan by US forces. Probably even deeper insanity was demonstrated by Ukrainian elites and various nationalistic and radical circles. Even if they had support of the West, I cannot fathom (well, everything has its reasons so I can but this is for emphasis) what they were thinking, as it has nothing to do with rationality. Instead of talking peace and smoothing things out, to enthusiastically and defiantly doom the entire country to war and destruction, to willingly become a proxy of a faraway foreign power in an unwinnable conflict against a very powerful yet culturally and ethnically close neighbour, to reject all the ties and notions of Ukraine and Russia being brotherly nations, to persecute and discriminate against a significant Russian-speaking minority de facto provoking a civil war in 2014 and then not doing anything to resolve the matter peacefully leading finally to the full blown war with Russia in 2022 (Russian SMO intervention/invasion), and then thinking that Ukraine with the Western support of second-hand and decommissioned hodge-podge weaponry can defeat Russia, can wrestle away Crimea and Donbas from Russia, and mind you, Russia is a nuclear and military superpower (hypersonic missiles and what not) with much larger population and industrial base; All of this is a basically insane. And, it is bad for Europe.
Naive idealist
As long as there are militarizes there will be wars for any reason which is always.
yeah this is awesome good stuff willy
It's so fascinating how you have a mutual professional respect and understanding for each other when, if you were on the ground in Ukraine, you would be fighting against each other.
Great Work Willy! Crazy that one can laugh together with people one might have to face in war sooner or later.
Nervous laughter maybe...
That’s the reason war is so pointless and absurd. Ultimately it’s young men, who have almost everything in common and would likely be great friends, that are sent to kill one another at the behest of stubborn rich men in gilded castles that can’t get along.
@@HE-162 I agree with you on the second part, the social elites get the most out of war with bearing far less of its risks than young men. However if you listen to what this guy and the translator say in their respective interviews i at least wouldnt want to be friends with them. Surely not because we believe in different facts… both them and us are manipulated by media campaigns and dont have a proper understanding of the whole situation. I just couldnt be friends with someone who decided to kill because he got bored with his civilian life or to combat „the global homo“. Im not some woke leftist (i actually served a few years not so long ago) but i believe in reason and personal freedom.
But the old men often do get along, they just use war to get better deals. Its all business for them.@@HE-162
@HE-162 that's what the start was about, they feel like their fighting their brothers but believe this is the right path.
Be it right or wrong, we won't know until it'll end as only then the truth will come out
as a slavic i can say drinking glass cleaner in slavic countries in not really popular(its too weak) but drinking aftershave is pretty common
😂
Definitely gotta have these guys on again great episode!
Excellent interview mate! Keep it up mate 👍👍
Only 1 hour in so far - hopefully video stays up, thanks for doing this interview mate
nicotine, caffeine and window cleaner. now that’s a ratpak
Fun fact: Special Military Operation was invented by the USA...
The interview we’ve all been waiting for
It took me several sessions to watch it all, but thanks nevertheless: Thank you very much Willy for this great work. Thanks for sharing the view from the other side of this conflict.
I also want to thank Ivan and Kum for sharing your view, opinion and experience of this story. It is for sure not easy to show and defend your point of view and even though I don´t agree with many of your opinions I am gratefull you explained them to me and the others watching this. Hopefully this will help after the end of the conflict and when justice has been served to see both "lower level" involved armed forces as humans which is the most important part!
As others have said your commitment to presenting both sides of the story is admirable and highly appreciated.
So what exactly did you learn from the psychopaths that you could not have learned on 4chan?
@@gamercatsz5441 Well 4chan is not very good source of information. also there is enough psychopaths on both sides.
@@gamercatsz5441 You really believe average people from different countries are different to you? We are all the same, we want peace not war. our leaders with influence from the cabal cause these problems
Bro this is absolutely one of the coolest bits of journalism I’ve seen about this war.
Hey willy thanks for this. My father also loves this content. Thanks for the bonding time with my pops! but also this interview really humanize the other side for me...
Great content as always. You are easily the best one to follow regarding ukraine conflict. Minimum bias. Great work!
Love the yandex market t-shirt! Well done Will! These guys seem pretty rad!
thank you to willy, ivan and masked man for this interview. its good to have several views on conflicts and not only a one sided view. the last interview with ivan was a highlight of youtube and i watched it several times, this one is qualitative less interesting because of the language barrage and the translation, but the value is insinuative. good job on both parts for giving insight to what is suppressed by media.
Man, Willy lost the plot once these dudes started drinking glass cleaner. I’m glad he did this interview, it was an eye opener.