A fearless woman who had her marriage to the king of France annulled after only producing daughters. Then marrying Henry. She held the rights to Aquitaine. An incredibly fertile area. Henry ended up locking her up for raising an army against him. Ironically she gave Henry five sons.
I wish some streaming service would do a high budget show about Eleanor of Aquitane just like the Crown. She had some much happening in her life that there would be material for several seasons worth
It should be a series about Eleanor AND Henry II, if its to be worth a damn at all. Henry was the one who built everything the Angevins had; what he built (Common Law) has stood the test of eight centuries and directly impacts a full third of the modern world.
I watched years ago the movie "The Lion in Winter" the story about King Henry and Eleanor of Aquitane, Richard the Lion Heart, and Prince John and Siblings! Good Movie!
@@patriciaaturner289 Sorry, but Anthony Hopkins played. Richard, not John. A great movie, I've seen it several times. A younger Peter O'Tool played a younger King Henry in the movie Becket--with the also great Richard Burton as The Archbishop of Canterbury. Not very historically accurate, but great drama, and they did get some of most important parts correct.
My boyfriend is from Normandy and looks exactly like (a slightly older version of) Richard the Lionheart! Same skin tone, freckles, etc. 😱😱 It's weeeeird!! Thank you for this, Mr. Constantinou! 💜
King Richard I and King John I looked exactly like this but their skin was much paler. King Richard I and King John I were both extremely pale redheads with light blue eyes. 🎭🩰🎨
Eleanor of Aquitaine is my 28th great-grandmother 3 times with King Henry II & 2 times with King Louis VII of France. King John is my great-grandfather 2 times with Isabella of Angouleme & 2 times with other ladies. I love how you portrayed them. Thanks!
@@ferea_896Hi. King Henry II and Eleanor of A are also my great great etc. grandparents. I wouldn't be surprised if you are related to them, too. Why are you saying that there is only one descendant? I did my homework. I'm Mexican.I traced my ancestors to Spain. To my surprise, a lot of them were kings. I traced their lines, which led me to this King in the video.
I’d be interested in seeing the faces of Empress Matilda, her brother William, their father Henry, William the Conquerer, and kings from prior to the Norman invasion too.
King Richard I and King John I looked exactly like this but their skin was much paler. King Richard I and King John I were both extremely pale redheads with light blue eyes. 🎭🩰🎨
I love how one can see the familial likenesses in the sons, from both their parents. BEYOND ARTISTRY!!! Another absolutely INCREDIBLE job!! Thank you so very much, truly fantastic. Funny... I always wondered what Henry ii actually looked like, and have wished I could see him in person. I'm sure this must be amazingly close, if not acutely accurate!! 💖
Finally! Henry, Eleanor, Richard and John....The first Plantagenet rulers of England! I've waited so long for someone to do their faces in life, from their tomb effigies, since those were usually done with their actual death masks, which showed what they really would have looked like. There are other people online, who don't often look at the effigies, paintings, or anything else, when they supposedly are creating the actual looks, and they always turn them into movie stars with no flaws, which is ridiculous.... They didn't have airbrushing or color matching makeup, OR hair color back then. Lol You followed the true foundation from their tomb effigies, and gave us such lifelike faces from them, that I'll wager this is very close to their actual faces. And the dramatizations you added, were wonderful! Thank you for this.... I've been waiting for someone to do this, and to do it right, for a very long time. ☺️
Merci pour ce formidable travail. Je suis originaire de Poitiers et contente d'avoir pu retracer une petite partie de son histoire. Actuellement, il reste le palais des ducs d'Aquitaine, devenu le palais de justice. C'est dans son ancienne salle de réception, appelée "la salle des pas perdus" aujourd'hui qu'a été jugée Jeanne d'Arc.
"L'Examen" de Poitiers devant les ecclésiastiques pour les convaincre quelle n'est pas l'envoyée du diable, le procès et le jugement et la condamnation au bucher, c'est plus tard et plus au nord !
Your work never ceases to amaze me! I've been well aware of the history behind these individuals but never so clear on their appearances as I am now. Your work is very believable given you're using the most accurate source, an effigy crafted by a contemporary.
Wow I have been waiting for this, I knew they had tempers and I thought they were the Plantagenets, thank you, this is brilliant, now I am waiting for your next video, cant get enough of them.
Henry II had an illegitimate son, William de Longespee, who served his brothers, would be interesting to view a likeness of him as well as William the Marshall.
William Marshal & William Loncahamps are are both my great-grandparents & it would indeed be very interesting to see a likeness of them, as well as my Grandma Empress Matilda, & Grandpa Geoffrey V 'the Fair" Count of Anjou.
That's why some historians depict him as being gay. Apparently most handsome men are gay, judging by today's gay Hollywood menfolk. Such a waste of beautiful genes for the future generations that might have been and women who might have borne kids for them!
King Athelstan (my fave ruler of medieval times) and King Edmund Ironside would be nice to see. We don't have much to go on but use your imagination a bit.
Since it had very little real affect on Henry II’s de facto power, I’d say it’s permissible to skip over the insufferably intransigent Becket. He shouldn’t be remembered with any fondness or reverence today.
@@CommonSwindler Of course, in a modern world that expects people to worship the state without question, Becket not allowing his personal friendship with Henry to get in the way of doing the correct thing and not be a puppet of the king is a thing to be forgotten and airbrushed out of history.
@@annemary9680 “the Correct Thing”?! You are aware of what that truly means regarding the Criminous Clerks issue, which is what the controversy stemmed from? Clerks, ie Clergy, are above the law. Henry II made Becket in every way, and Becket had no qualms serving Henry when there was profit to be made as Chancellor from 1155-1162. Calling Becket what he is isn’t state worshipping; that’s, laughable frankly. Setting him (Becket) up on a pedestal as a martyr is equally laughable. Let’s consider Becket’s stance shall we? Criminalist clerks should “not” face punishment by a secular authority. Frame that in a modern light: Priests who molest children should “not” face secular justice. Madness, no? Henry’s legal position was and is the legal position of the entirety of the Western world. A majority of the English church at the time even recognized this, since the ever intransigent Becket was not well-liked, as well as the Papacy itself and were unwilling to fight Henry tooth and nail on this point. Imagine a trusted friend, a man whom you raised from nothing, betraying you on obscure principles he hadn’t held previously and doing so in full knowledge of the damage he was doing. Henry can be forgiven his frustration, even if it did boil over into indirect murder. “Whatever the practice in the immediate past, Henry II was able to look back to a time when the clergy in England had, despite their claims to immunity, been amenable to secular jurisdiction at least for serious crimes. It is possible that a distinction had been drawn between trial and punishment: clerks being tried in the church courts but handed over to the secular authorities for punishment - even the high claim of the Leges Henrici Primi does not preclude that. (W.L. Warren, Henry II, 463-464) Henry’s push to codify practice stemmed from a practical need as well, sought by all concerned, cleric and layman: “The inadequacy of ecclesiastical discipline was the burden of many complaints reaching the king when he returned to England in 1163. He was told that since his coronation more than a hundred murders had been committed by clerks, as well as innumerable cases of theft and of robbery with violence which had escaped the rigours of secular justice.” (W.L. Warren, Henry II, 464-465) Warren adds a telling side note: “It is noticeable that neither Becket nor his partisans ever claimed that the clause on criminous clerks in the Constitutions of Clarendon, or indeed any of the other clauses, were contrary to the ancient custom of the realm.” (W.L. Warren, Henry II, 463) Furthermore, I’d add that it is significant that Henry II was able to maintain, in some ways unofficially, many of the teeth of the Constitutions even after the fallout of Becket’s murder and the subsequent Compromise at Avranches in 1172. Henry II could still intervene in ecclesiastical affairs ‘per voluntatem’ and did so successful, consider the famous case of the election of his clerk Richard of Ilchester to the Bishopric of Winchester. Indeed with this in mind it is difficult to see what Henry II really lost in the way of jurisdiction, since the majority of cases were of “little concern to the king” (Mayr-Harting, Henry II and the Papacy 1170-1189). That the Church was willing to compromise on the Constitutions themselves and that Henry was able to play an incredibly shrewd game of negotiation with Alexander III and his legates, stretching meanings and successfully extracting as much as possible from wordings indicate that Henry II’s position was legally tenable and, if glossed correctly and unofficially, was acceptable to the Church in order that harmonious relations could be restored and prove beneficial to all. The proof of this pudding is in the eating. That this was done after Becket’s murder indicates what a thoroughly exasperating and uncompromising man was Thomas Becket. History has proven rightly unkind to his position (consider again whether or not own “criminous clerks” should be exempt from secular justice after molesting children.) Becket’s intransigence stemmed not from his own sense of the legal steadfastness of his own position but from a deep insecurity of his status: he had been clearly the king’s man who had been raised and appointed by Henry to navigate the Church alongside royal policy, as Becket had done devotedly in the secular realm on Henry’s behalf for years. Becket then sought to pick an existential fight at every turn, which his fellow clerics had more political sense than to do. The success of the Church in England was that it worked within the bounds and did not seek to make an outright challenge to royal power. Better experienced bishops like Gilbert Foliot or even Alexander III understood this as a balancing act requiring tact. Becket, ever the intractably insufferable zealot, manifestly and demonstrably did not. Zealots are often so because they are insecure and have only a rudimentary grasp on the subtleties of the game.
@@CommonSwindler Thank you for your extremely interesting analysis and a brand new vision on both characters as far as I am concerned. I have always been led to consider Becket as a figure of integrity, supported by the image of the bare-footed King in shirt in a symbolical gesture of amendment.
What a novel approach. I was impressed by the artistic recreation of their tomb effigy. Although I note King John's had long curly hair however his artistic impression had him with short straight hair. I know he wasn't popular but he's still an ancestor who many of us must respect else we'd not be alive ourselves. Fantastic job otherwise.
Thanks for a superb job. I commented a few months ago that I supposed it would be impossible to recreate the image of Eleanor of Aquitaine since so few portraits of her exist. Now I need to read more about the Crusades.
Eleanor was recreated by using the basic face shape from her effigy, and as for the hair colour just using logic, as her children had blonde or red hair. The crusades was a big part of my country's history as it was a kingdom of the Lusignans for many years.
Eleanor of Aquitaine is my 28th great-grandmother & there are a handful of sketches done of her along with 1 remaining actual painting & descriptions of her in personal family papers & diaries. Eleanor's hair was waist length, thick and reddish auburn brown. Mine is the same, but a bit shorter. Looking in a mirrow is as if she is looking back at me. I inherited her looks & smarts, but Grandpa Henry's temper & restlesness.....owhat and odd combination of the two, but that was my inheritance form them.
Richard the Lionheart must have had a good agent, as he was in reality a very unpopular monarch. Born in Oxford, he spoke not a single word of English and taxed his subjects to the point of national bankruptsy over both the crusades and his imprisonment in Austria. Throughout his entire ten year reign he spent less than three months in England, a nation he despised.
King Richard I and King John I looked exactly like this but their skin was much paler. King Richard I and King John I were both extremely pale redheads with light blue eyes. 🎭🩰🎨
@@mamavswild King Richard I and King John I looked exactly like this but their skin was much paler. King Richard I and King John I were both extremely pale redheads with light blue eyes. 🎭🩰🎨
The computer images are of course mainly guesswork, especially Eleanor whose deathmask is very vague. Oh, and the continual blinking of the images made me a bit queazy somehow.
This is interesting, but I'm not so sure how accurate the photo images can be as they are based on the original image they're taken from. For instance, the best available image of Henry II is the sculpture on his tomb, but how accurate is that? It looks rather like an impression than an attempt at a true likeness of the king. It's all still quite fascinating though.
The tomb facial features, were often stylised according to the period of history. But in the later years of the 15th century, there were attempts at times to convey a more realistic portraiture.
@@technicoloryaya549They weren't just people, they were 'the world writ big'. Henry II was ruthless, Richard I a mass murderer, John a narcissist. These fellas look like undergrads at a pool party. No criticism intended of the creator, but how do you capture 'mood' as in a portrait? Anyhow, the Fontrevault sculptures are sort of stylised to start with.
Well done and originally made 🙏. If state powers of today wanted to Reclaim and reconquer their land (after 1 000 years of trying), they could do it now!
A contemporary wrote this verse: Were the world all mine/From the sea to the Rhine/I'd give it all for one night/where the Queen of England lay in my arms."
@@AlexandraLynch1 Blondel?(LOL)I cannot recall the name of the French Troubador at the Courts Of Love.But I believe Henry was jealous over his songs to Eleanor.Bertrand de Someone.
I love history! But, in my opinion, the best way to restore a person's appearance is to examine the skull, not the statues. Today you can inspect the burial with something like an X-ray without opening the grave.And, accordingly, to get the best data for research. But still, it was interesting!👍
I believe the commentaries from Richard I time describe him as having red-gold hair and usually clean shaven. The same red-gold hair was also attributed to Henry II. Disappointed in the portrayals, even though the likenesses were very good.😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
How differently would England have turned out had King John not died so early, and the Dauphin (with the help of the nobility) had conquered England for France?
Can we really blame John for being John? Growing up in THAT family, of course you'd be paranoid, vain and cruel. Richard was just lucky he was brilliant on the battlefield. He was a lousy king. John was a lousy king as well but he also got the short stick after his brother drained the coffers dry. Plus, no one likes it when a king periodically loses battles and land as a result.
Eleanor & King Henry II are my 28th great-grandparents, 3 times through Henry II & 5 times through Eleanor. I don't believe in the paranoid, vain & cruel belief, but in those days you most definitely had alot to be concerned about.
Could u possibly do Berengaria,Henry The Young King, Geoffrey & the girls some time please?Johanna was always a fav of mine.It was quite spooky looking at the tombs then seeing the figures come to life.But I love these recons & it helps me with my research.So thank you & here's to the next episode.Oh,& it's a break from those blamed Tudors!By the time John was born,Eleanor & Henry were not on good terms & she resented being pregnant again.I think John Lackland may have suffered from his mother's coldness & that's what made him as he was.Though she did come to his aid against Arthur.Poor lad. Oh that's funny.Recently we were discussing SMS, Napoleon,Hitler,Putrid etc & now you have confirmed John was also small for a man.So I wonder what size his ego was,in comparison. Just thinking,what a way to spend your life,warring & killing.I have a lot of sympathy for the poor troops who had to go with their masters & even more for the beautiful horses.What a waste war is.Wouldn't it be great if humans ever come of age?
Good job panayioti.eleanor was of devine beauty as her son richard as well.first time i see henry the second.now i know where richard got his good looking...thanks.andre.lssol.cyprus
King Richard I and King John I looked exactly like this but their skin was much paler. King Richard I and King John I were both extremely pale redheads with light blue eyes. 🎭🩰🎨
King Richard I and King John I looked exactly like this but their skin was much paler. King Richard I and King John I were both extremely pale redheads with light blue eyes. 🎭🩰🎨
These facial inventions are quite fascinating. But no one should be under any illusion that they are accurate in showing what the subjects actually looked like. Thy all use effigies as the starting point and those were created after the deaths of the person being memorialized by carvers who may or may not have ever seen the subject they were asked to depict. Still, interesting to view.
I always ssy that those firsr dinasties in England cannot be considered 100% Engiish. For example Richard the lion hesrt, he, like all the royalty of that time spoke only French and he in particular spent quite a short time in England to be named as English kilng.
An island invaded by Romans, Saxons, Vikings, Normans and whoever else, you could probably trace roots from all over the place. But if you wear the English crown and sit on the English throne then you are an English king. Richard I was also born in England. The English language has also rapidly changed since then. Henry VIII is the most famous English king, he pretty much changed the country's future. Richard I is respected as a great leader/fighter, but his reputation as a king has greatly diminished.
Queen Mathilda, former empress, and her husband, Geoffrey Plantagenet. He was 11 years younger than Mathilda and they didn’t like each other much. He wore a sprig of Plant ta genet, broom, to identify himself to his troops on the battlefield. Mathilda was rumored to be in love with her close cousin King Stephen, whom she fought all their lives for the throne. She finally agreed to allow Stephen to rule rule while he lived, but they agreed her son Henry would rule after his death, not Stephens son.
Geoffrey Plantagenet did not leave his French holdings to his first son Henry I as he was not sure Henry was his. King Henry got England, which were his mother’s holdings. Geoffrey left his French lands to his and Mathilda’s second surviving son.
I really don't understand why we have not gotten a proper show, movie or documentary that covers the stories and legacy of the Plantagenets
There was a show that had the Plantaganets: it's called the Hollow Crown and it has Tom Hiddleston and Benedict Cumberbatch
It would have to be about Eleanor unless that Transgendered Or Richard or John. Or made them all black etc. Aka trash
The Lion In The Winter is a wonderful movie. Two versions were made and both are worth watching.
A fearless woman who had her marriage to the king of France annulled after only producing daughters. Then marrying Henry. She held the rights to Aquitaine. An incredibly fertile area. Henry ended up locking her up for raising an army against him. Ironically she gave Henry five sons.
Old paintings are so bad. My granddaughter’s grade six class draws better.
I wish some streaming service would do a high budget show about Eleanor of Aquitane just like the Crown. She had some much happening in her life that there would be material for several seasons worth
We get a little taste of it in “The Lion in Winter”. Fiction but some sense of it.
Me too! Eleanor is my girl crush.
I think a series about the whole royal house would bd great!
Great idea! She was a real feminist.
It should be a series about Eleanor AND Henry II, if its to be worth a damn at all. Henry was the one who built everything the Angevins had; what he built (Common Law) has stood the test of eight centuries and directly impacts a full third of the modern world.
I watched years ago the movie "The Lion in Winter" the story about King Henry and Eleanor of Aquitane, Richard the Lion Heart, and Prince John and Siblings! Good Movie!
Excellent film, excellents acteurs ,😊
I saw this movie
Anthony Hopkins played Prince John in that.
Anthony Hopkins played Richard and Timothy Dalton played Phillip Augustus the King of France.@@patriciaaturner289
@@patriciaaturner289 Sorry, but Anthony Hopkins played. Richard, not John. A great movie, I've seen it several times. A younger Peter O'Tool played a younger King Henry in the movie Becket--with the also great Richard Burton as The Archbishop of Canterbury. Not very historically accurate, but great drama, and they did get some of most important parts correct.
I am so amazed by the way you do this.
My boyfriend is from Normandy and looks exactly like (a slightly older version of) Richard the Lionheart! Same skin tone, freckles, etc. 😱😱 It's weeeeird!! Thank you for this, Mr. Constantinou! 💜
You lucky girl! 🇬🇧
@@alimar0604 😬😄💜
King Richard I and King John I looked exactly like this but their skin was much paler. King Richard I and King John I were both extremely pale redheads with light blue eyes. 🎭🩰🎨
Eleanor of Aquitaine is my 28th great-grandmother 3 times with King Henry II & 2 times with King Louis VII of France. King John is my great-grandfather 2 times with Isabella of Angouleme & 2 times with other ladies. I love how you portrayed them. Thanks!
Uh-huh. And you're Maid Marion😅
Yeah. Just a little to much, next time you lie chose something more believable . There’s only one descendant alive of the angevins. That’s not you
@@ferea_896Hi. King Henry II and Eleanor of A are also my great great etc. grandparents. I wouldn't be surprised if you are related to them, too. Why are you saying that there is only one descendant? I did my homework. I'm Mexican.I traced my ancestors to Spain. To my surprise, a lot of them were kings. I traced their lines, which led me to this King in the video.
@@James-ll3jbMost people are related to kings, so don't be surprised if you are, too
@@ferea_896Thats not true, the Angevins have had tons of direct descendants (through John).
I’d be interested in seeing the faces of Empress Matilda, her brother William, their father Henry, William the Conquerer, and kings from prior to the Norman invasion too.
Also King Stephen, & Matilda's half-brother, Robert of Gloucester.
More so Steven with his crossed eye portraits
Or the Empress Matilda's several times great grandfather Aelfred the Great.
@@adventussaxonum448 yes!!! A million times yes!!!
Alfred the great
This is so clever. Some of these as are many others, very handsome and beautiful to see.
King Richard I and King John I looked exactly like this but their skin was much paler. King Richard I and King John I were both extremely pale redheads with light blue eyes. 🎭🩰🎨
I don’t know how you’re able to do any of this, but I’m glad you are!
Someone: “Congrats, you’re the king of England.”
Richard: “ew”
Great video.❤ Richard the lion heart resembles john bon jovi. 13:24
I love how one can see the familial likenesses in the sons, from both their parents. BEYOND ARTISTRY!!! Another absolutely INCREDIBLE job!! Thank you so very much, truly fantastic. Funny... I always wondered what Henry ii actually looked like, and have wished I could see him in person. I'm sure this must be amazingly close, if not acutely accurate!! 💖
It's most likely very close to how they looked, since the faces on their tomb effigies were usually taken from their death masks.
He looked just like Peter O'Toole.!🤭
It’s probably him close up, not from a distance. And I’d expect the hair to be different.
Great job! well done.
You make history interesting 👍👍👍👍👍
Finally!
Henry, Eleanor, Richard and John....The first Plantagenet rulers of England!
I've waited so long for someone to do their faces in life, from their tomb effigies, since those were usually done with their actual death masks, which showed what they really would have looked like.
There are other people online, who don't often look at the effigies, paintings, or anything else, when they supposedly are creating the actual looks, and they always turn them into movie stars with no flaws, which is ridiculous.... They didn't have airbrushing or color matching makeup, OR hair color back then. Lol
You followed the true foundation from their tomb effigies, and gave us such lifelike faces from them, that I'll wager this is very close to their actual faces.
And the dramatizations you added, were wonderful!
Thank you for this.... I've been waiting for someone to do this, and to do it right, for a very long time. ☺️
Merci pour ce formidable travail. Je suis originaire de Poitiers et contente d'avoir pu retracer une petite partie de son histoire. Actuellement, il reste le palais des ducs d'Aquitaine, devenu le palais de justice. C'est dans son ancienne salle de réception, appelée "la salle des pas perdus" aujourd'hui qu'a été jugée Jeanne d'Arc.
Merci my friend for this information .😊
"L'Examen" de Poitiers devant les ecclésiastiques pour les convaincre quelle n'est pas l'envoyée du diable, le procès et le jugement et la condamnation au bucher, c'est plus tard et plus au nord !
Your work never ceases to amaze me!
I've been well aware of the history behind these individuals but never so clear on their appearances as I am now.
Your work is very believable given you're using the most accurate source, an effigy crafted by a contemporary.
Wow I have been waiting for this, I knew they had tempers and I thought they were the Plantagenets, thank you, this is brilliant, now I am waiting for your next video, cant get enough of them.
They are Plantagenets. Henry is considered the first Plantagenet king. He came from a cadet branch of the Angevins.
Descended, through Matilda, from the House of Wessex.
Henry II had an illegitimate son, William de Longespee, who served his brothers, would be interesting to view a likeness of him as well as William the Marshall.
Jon Snow
If Johns nickname was "Lackland" because he was not expected to inherit much land. Makes one wonder why William de Longespee was called "Longespee?
William Marshal & William Loncahamps are are both my great-grandparents & it would indeed be very interesting to see a likeness of them, as well as my Grandma Empress Matilda, & Grandpa Geoffrey V 'the Fair" Count of Anjou.
I've got to admit. Part of the reason I watch these is for the music.
Agreed❤❤❤
Wow - Lionheart was quite handsome!
Yes!!! Just my type ❤😂
That's why some historians depict him as being gay. Apparently most handsome men are gay, judging by today's gay Hollywood menfolk. Such a waste of beautiful genes for the future generations that might have been and women who might have borne kids for them!
Thank you for this fascinating history
King Athelstan (my fave ruler of medieval times) and King Edmund Ironside would be nice to see. We don't have much to go on but use your imagination a bit.
Fantastic! Thank you!
Excellent. Loved it. Thanks.
I like that you had Richard favor Eleanor in appearance. He was her favorite child.
Great work as always but you did not mention what Henry II is infamous for - the unintentional murder of Thomas Becket.
Since it had very little real affect on Henry II’s de facto power, I’d say it’s permissible to skip over the insufferably intransigent Becket. He shouldn’t be remembered with any fondness or reverence today.
@@CommonSwindler Of course, in a modern world that expects people to worship the state without question, Becket not allowing his personal friendship with Henry to get in the way of doing the correct thing and not be a puppet of the king is a thing to be forgotten and airbrushed out of history.
@@annemary9680 “the Correct Thing”?! You are aware of what that truly means regarding the Criminous Clerks issue, which is what the controversy stemmed from? Clerks, ie Clergy, are above the law.
Henry II made Becket in every way, and Becket had no qualms serving Henry when there was profit to be made as Chancellor from 1155-1162. Calling Becket what he is isn’t state worshipping; that’s, laughable frankly. Setting him (Becket) up on a pedestal as a martyr is equally laughable. Let’s consider Becket’s stance shall we? Criminalist clerks should “not” face punishment by a secular authority. Frame that in a modern light: Priests who molest children should “not” face secular justice. Madness, no? Henry’s legal position was and is the legal position of the entirety of the Western world. A majority of the English church at the time even recognized this, since the ever intransigent Becket was not well-liked, as well as the Papacy itself and were unwilling to fight Henry tooth and nail on this point. Imagine a trusted friend, a man whom you raised from nothing, betraying you on obscure principles he hadn’t held previously and doing so in full knowledge of the damage he was doing. Henry can be forgiven his frustration, even if it did boil over into indirect murder.
“Whatever the practice in the immediate past, Henry II was able to look back to a time when the clergy in England had, despite their claims to immunity, been amenable to secular jurisdiction at least for serious crimes. It is possible that a distinction had been drawn between trial and punishment: clerks being tried in the church courts but handed over to the secular authorities for punishment - even the high claim of the Leges Henrici Primi does not preclude that. (W.L. Warren, Henry II, 463-464)
Henry’s push to codify practice stemmed from a practical need as well, sought by all concerned, cleric and layman:
“The inadequacy of ecclesiastical discipline was the burden of many complaints reaching the king when he returned to England in 1163. He was told that since his coronation more than a hundred murders had been committed by clerks, as well as innumerable cases of theft and of robbery with violence which had escaped the rigours of secular justice.” (W.L. Warren, Henry II, 464-465)
Warren adds a telling side note: “It is noticeable that neither Becket nor his partisans ever claimed that the clause on criminous clerks in the Constitutions of Clarendon, or indeed any of the other clauses, were contrary to the ancient custom of the realm.” (W.L. Warren, Henry II, 463)
Furthermore, I’d add that it is significant that Henry II was able to maintain, in some ways unofficially, many of the teeth of the Constitutions even after the fallout of Becket’s murder and the subsequent Compromise at Avranches in 1172. Henry II could still intervene in ecclesiastical affairs ‘per voluntatem’ and did so successful, consider the famous case of the election of his clerk Richard of Ilchester to the Bishopric of Winchester. Indeed with this in mind it is difficult to see what Henry II really lost in the way of jurisdiction, since the majority of cases were of “little concern to the king” (Mayr-Harting, Henry II and the Papacy 1170-1189). That the Church was willing to compromise on the Constitutions themselves and that Henry was able to play an incredibly shrewd game of negotiation with Alexander III and his legates, stretching meanings and successfully extracting as much as possible from wordings indicate that Henry II’s position was legally tenable and, if glossed correctly and unofficially, was acceptable to the Church in order that harmonious relations could be restored and prove beneficial to all.
The proof of this pudding is in the eating. That this was done after Becket’s murder indicates what a thoroughly exasperating and uncompromising man was Thomas Becket. History has proven rightly unkind to his position (consider again whether or not own “criminous clerks” should be exempt from secular justice after molesting children.) Becket’s intransigence stemmed not from his own sense of the legal steadfastness of his own position but from a deep insecurity of his status: he had been clearly the king’s man who had been raised and appointed by Henry to navigate the Church alongside royal policy, as Becket had done devotedly in the secular realm on Henry’s behalf for years. Becket then sought to pick an existential fight at every turn, which his fellow clerics had more political sense than to do. The success of the Church in England was that it worked within the bounds and did not seek to make an outright challenge to royal power. Better experienced bishops like Gilbert Foliot or even Alexander III understood this as a balancing act requiring tact. Becket, ever the intractably insufferable zealot, manifestly and demonstrably did not. Zealots are often so because they are insecure and have only a rudimentary grasp on the subtleties of the game.
Yeah... let's see Becket!
@@CommonSwindler Thank you for your extremely interesting analysis and a brand new vision on both characters as far as I am concerned. I have always been led to consider Becket as a figure of integrity, supported by the image of the bare-footed King in shirt in a symbolical gesture of amendment.
Richard the Lionheart enters: (plays World of Warcraft: Warlords of Draenor theme)
Awesome work!
All I can say is...wow!!!!
You keep me coming back to your channel!!!
Superb work of yours!!! Hats off!!
Thx mate!😉
That was simply brilliant. Well done. Should be shown in all schools.
John, the bucktooth rabbit hilarious. Wonderful job, I really enjoyed this.
So interesting. Thank you so much
What a novel approach. I was impressed by the artistic recreation of their tomb effigy. Although I note King John's had long curly hair however his artistic impression had him with short straight hair. I know he wasn't popular but he's still an ancestor who many of us must respect else we'd not be alive ourselves. Fantastic job otherwise.
Love these! Thanks for posting!
Fantastic as always
Excellent !!
Richard, eh? Very cute!
Yes, they all have such noble faces !!!
That's what his BOYFRIENDS thought as he was a homosexual, apart from being a terrible King of England.
The theory that he liked boys has been debunked.
Wow! I didn't expect the Lionheart to look this nice! Looks better than any actor, that I remember, who has ever played him!
Could you do the Saxon kings of England? Or atleast the kings just before William the Conqueror?
Thanks for a superb job. I commented a few months ago that I supposed it would be impossible to recreate the image of Eleanor of Aquitaine since so few portraits of her exist. Now I need to read more about the Crusades.
Eleanor was recreated by using the basic face shape from her effigy, and as for the hair colour just using logic, as her children had blonde or red hair.
The crusades was a big part of my country's history as it was a kingdom of the Lusignans for many years.
@@panagiotisconstantinou why don't you do the Saxon kings of England like Harold Godwinson and Alfred the Great) etc
Eleanor of Aquitaine is my 28th great-grandmother & there are a handful of sketches done of her along with 1 remaining actual painting & descriptions of her in personal family papers & diaries. Eleanor's hair was waist length, thick and reddish auburn brown. Mine is the same, but a bit shorter. Looking in a mirrow is as if she is looking back at me. I inherited her looks & smarts, but Grandpa Henry's temper & restlesness.....owhat and odd combination of the two, but that was my inheritance form them.
Richard the Lionheart must have had a good agent, as he was in reality a very unpopular monarch.
Born in Oxford, he spoke not a single word of English and taxed his subjects to the point of national bankruptsy over both the crusades and his imprisonment in Austria. Throughout his entire ten year reign he spent less than three months in England, a nation he despised.
Yeah but he was hot
King Richard I and King John I looked exactly like this but their skin was much paler. King Richard I and King John I were both extremely pale redheads with light blue eyes. 🎭🩰🎨
@@mamavswild King Richard I and King John I looked exactly like this but their skin was much paler. King Richard I and King John I were both extremely pale redheads with light blue eyes. 🎭🩰🎨
I just discovered your channel, and it's so cool! I love seeing what these people looked like in real life! Awesome work 🤓🤓😎
Brilliant, thank you!
Richard was really handsome
Oh yeah
I remember seeing these tombs in England in Westminster Abbey as a 10 yr old. 62 yrs ago. I most vividly remember that of Eleanor of Aquitane's.
The computer images are of course mainly guesswork, especially Eleanor whose deathmask is very vague. Oh, and the continual blinking of the images made me a bit queazy somehow.
Thank you!!!
Fascinating.
I love the middle ages, particularly the 1000s through the 1400s. Richard the first was attractive!
richard the third was definitely orlando bloom-type.
This is interesting, but I'm not so sure how accurate the photo images can be as they are based on the original image they're taken from. For instance, the best available image of Henry II is the sculpture on his tomb, but how accurate is that? It looks rather like an impression than an attempt at a true likeness of the king. It's all still quite fascinating though.
The tomb facial features, were often stylised according to the period of history. But in the later years of the 15th century, there were attempts at times to convey a more realistic portraiture.
I think it's cool that people can do this. I saw facial reconstructions of neanderthals and people who lived in the Neolithic period.
these reconstructions are sometimes eeie./ still i overwhelmingly think they got it right.
They all look too benign and friendly!
Are they supposed to look like Jabba the Hut? They were people. 😂😂😂
@@technicoloryaya549They weren't just people, they were 'the world writ big'. Henry II was ruthless, Richard I a mass murderer, John a narcissist. These fellas look like undergrads at a pool party. No criticism intended of the creator, but how do you capture 'mood' as in a portrait? Anyhow, the Fontrevault sculptures are sort of stylised to start with.
This is awesome!!!
The titles are too quick to read …
the song is called "France 1183"
Very loud music detracts from the brilliant work.
Turn it down then.
@@piercebrosnan9528 It's too f'n loud buddy.
@@Doo_Doo_Patrol Figure it out, Mr Taliban.
@@piercebrosnan9528 Too loud goof ball, too loud.
Appreciate all your work and history. You breathe life into marble and make it real.
Well done and originally made 🙏. If state powers of today wanted to Reclaim and reconquer their land (after 1 000 years of trying), they could do it now!
So good!
Queen Eleanor, if she were alive today, would be a BEAUTY queen.
keep the music's volume lower!
Surely great ever!!😊👍
impressive , but diffikult for me to understaend everything greetings from Switzerland Gstaad
I would have thought Eleanor would be prettier.
82 years live the second one at that time. Wow!
This is interesting, but how much do we know about the accuracy of tomb effigies? Could they be stylized or designed to flatter?
Richard and John have a strong resemblance to their mother in these recreations
Eleanor was played by Katherine Hepburn in The Lio in Winter
Isn't Eleanor just so BEAUTIFUL !!!
A contemporary wrote this verse: Were the world all mine/From the sea to the Rhine/I'd give it all for one night/where the Queen of England lay in my arms."
@@AlexandraLynch1 Blondel?(LOL)I cannot recall the name of the French Troubador at the Courts Of Love.But I believe Henry was jealous over his songs to Eleanor.Bertrand de Someone.
@@susanmccormick6022 Probably not. There wasn’t a man living which Henry II was jealous of.
This was certainly a different look for Richard the Lionhearted, contrasting sharply with the thuggish Anthony Hopkins in "The Lion in Winter."
Amazing!
I found it a bit strange that you would use Le Tourdion (a 16th-century song) as background music for the 13th-century Angevins.
I love history! But, in my opinion, the best way to restore a person's appearance is to examine the skull, not the statues. Today you can inspect the burial with something like an X-ray without opening the grave.And, accordingly, to get the best data for research.
But still, it was interesting!👍
Great job
The Third Crusade It started when king Richard I Lionheart he was lived in Messina Town in Sicily in the year 1190
I believe the commentaries from Richard I time describe him as having red-gold hair and usually clean shaven. The same red-gold hair was also attributed to Henry II. Disappointed in the portrayals, even though the likenesses were very good.😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
if these are accurate darn Richard looked good
who preserve their own past certanly will got the future, God bless all the kings 🔥
These were good looking kings and I'm in love 🥰!
How differently would England have turned out had King John not died so early, and the Dauphin (with the help of the nobility) had conquered England for France?
No way 😉 We would have sent Jason Statham back in time with a time machine and get them both 😃
Very educational.
Are there any images of Richard’s wife?
The music sounds just like Ethelion by Gryphon.
Can we really blame John for being John?
Growing up in THAT family, of course you'd be paranoid, vain and cruel.
Richard was just lucky he was brilliant on the battlefield. He was a lousy king.
John was a lousy king as well but he also got the short stick after his brother drained the coffers dry. Plus, no one likes it when a king periodically loses battles and land as a result.
Eleanor & King Henry II are my 28th great-grandparents, 3 times through Henry II & 5 times through Eleanor. I don't believe in the paranoid, vain & cruel belief, but in those days you most definitely had alot to be concerned about.
Can you do willam wallace or robert the bruce or Andrew moray
She's my favourite queen.
Could u possibly do Berengaria,Henry The Young King, Geoffrey & the girls some time please?Johanna was always a fav of mine.It was quite spooky looking at the tombs then seeing the figures come to life.But I love these recons & it helps me with my research.So thank you & here's to the next episode.Oh,& it's a break from those blamed Tudors!By the time John was born,Eleanor & Henry were not on good terms & she resented being pregnant again.I think John Lackland may have suffered from his mother's coldness & that's what made him as he was.Though she did come to his aid against Arthur.Poor lad.
Oh that's funny.Recently we were discussing SMS, Napoleon,Hitler,Putrid etc & now you have confirmed John was also small for a man.So I wonder what size his ego was,in comparison.
Just thinking,what a way to spend your life,warring & killing.I have a lot of sympathy for the poor troops who had to go with their masters & even more for the beautiful horses.What a waste war is.Wouldn't it be great if humans ever come of age?
Good job panayioti.eleanor was of devine beauty as her son richard as well.first time i see henry the second.now i know where richard got his good looking...thanks.andre.lssol.cyprus
Would love to see you do one on Henry and Jeffrey. Richards brothers,and his sister's too
Can you later do the statue of female legend pope Johannes Anglicus, please?
Always Love watching and Learning about Richard the Lionheart..a King of Action..
A true Prince of the Church.
King Richard I and King John I looked exactly like this but their skin was much paler. King Richard I and King John I were both extremely pale redheads with light blue eyes. 🎭🩰🎨
King Richard I and King John I looked exactly like this but their skin was much paler. King Richard I and King John I were both extremely pale redheads with light blue eyes. 🎭🩰🎨
Wasn't Eleanor of Aquitaine suposed to be one of the most beautiful women of the age?
These facial inventions are quite fascinating. But no one should be under any illusion that they are accurate in showing what the subjects actually looked like. Thy all use effigies as the starting point and those were created after the deaths of the person being memorialized by carvers who may or may not have ever seen the subject they were asked to depict. Still, interesting to view.
King Richard was extremely handsome they are a better looking than the Royal family we have now
Why is Eleanors left eye so much bigger the other?
Eleanor has that Celine Dion vibe
I always ssy that those firsr dinasties in England cannot be considered 100% Engiish. For example Richard the lion hesrt, he, like all the royalty of that time spoke only French and he in particular spent quite a short time in England to be named as English kilng.
It's interesting isn't it? Yet he's the most famous English king.
An island invaded by Romans, Saxons, Vikings, Normans and whoever else, you could probably trace roots from all over the place. But if you wear the English crown and sit on the English throne then you are an English king. Richard I was also born in England. The English language has also rapidly changed since then.
Henry VIII is the most famous English king, he pretty much changed the country's future. Richard I is respected as a great leader/fighter, but his reputation as a king has greatly diminished.
descendants from the Roman army in iEnglands is VERY limited, except from slaves and mercenaries, most of them Celtic or Germanic. @@murmursmeglos
@@murmursmeglos
And he was descended from Alfred the Great, through his grandmother Matilda.
Like the music.
My granny princess Marianna Cottone she descents also from Robert de Cottone and from the ancients kings of Wessex and from Charlemagne too
I thought these royals were from the Plantagenet dynasty
Thinking the same
The Plantagenêts were the Angevins.
They are.
Queen Mathilda, former empress, and her husband, Geoffrey Plantagenet. He was 11 years younger than Mathilda and they didn’t like each other much. He wore a sprig of Plant ta genet, broom, to identify himself to his troops on the battlefield. Mathilda was rumored to be in love with her close cousin King Stephen, whom she fought all their lives for the throne. She finally agreed to allow Stephen to rule rule while he lived, but they agreed her son Henry would rule after his death, not Stephens son.
Geoffrey Plantagenet did not leave his French holdings to his first son Henry I as he was not sure Henry was his. King Henry got England, which were his mother’s holdings. Geoffrey left his French lands to his and Mathilda’s second surviving son.