President & Convicted Felon: Historian on the Unprecedented Trump Verdict | Amanpour and Company

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  • Опубликовано: 30 май 2024
  • It’s a verdict that will be forever cemented in history. In more than 200 years of America as we know it, no U.S. president has ever been convicted of a crime - until this week. Presidential historian Tim Naftali joins the show to discuss where this moment stands in the longer arc of U.S. history.
    Originally aired on May 3, 2024
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Комментарии • 994

  • @JamesOfEarth
    @JamesOfEarth Месяц назад +507

    If one is not allowed to vote for an office as a convicted felon, one sure as heck should not be allowed to hold that office as a convicted felon.

    • @davidk2906
      @davidk2906 Месяц назад

      America has become so liberal with giving people so much freedom to do what they that they have made it is legal for diabolical criminals to take over the government.

    • @ericlipps9459
      @ericlipps9459 Месяц назад +29

      I agree, but unfortunately that's a loophole in the Constitution.

    • @belladonnatook8851
      @belladonnatook8851 Месяц назад +38

      It needs to be closed.

    • @ttacking_you
      @ttacking_you Месяц назад +8

      That's true but what is that an _ipso facto sans facto_ a _reductio ad absurdum_ or something? Some kind of _quasi paradoxical epiphenomenal doctrinal loophole_ in the Constitution

    • @ttacking_you
      @ttacking_you Месяц назад +2

      ​@@ericlipps9459yeah you're right. I was trying to further granularize the type of loophole

  • @CrabbyE8
    @CrabbyE8 Месяц назад +320

    Trump’s criminality is one thing, but his reckless unrepentantedness makes him extremely dangerous. This is why we should care less about the precedent of sending this man to prison. We need to safeguard ourselves.

    • @user-nh5xy8rt7q
      @user-nh5xy8rt7q Месяц назад +4

      He never change
      Three wife didn’t change him
      Put him in the WH will be every body fault , the law first for allowed
      The Voter second , it will be the biggest mistake ever vote for him

    • @scottoreilly4785
      @scottoreilly4785 Месяц назад

      Can you imagine, this odious man had control of America's nuclear arsenal.

    • @ThomasHalways
      @ThomasHalways Месяц назад +22

      Are you suggesting Amendment to the Constitution? The Supreme Court and their outrageous conduct is an even bigger problem in my eyes.

    • @yourturn777
      @yourturn777 Месяц назад +7

      ​@@ThomasHalwaysfalse prophet minions

    • @faithallen1169
      @faithallen1169 Месяц назад

      Trump is mentally ill.

  • @manyeyedcrow9391
    @manyeyedcrow9391 Месяц назад +122

    One thing that was very lightly covered that came out in this trial - Trump did not use email at his business because he didn’t want a paper trail for the things that he did. He has been acting like a criminal for decades.

    • @randibgood
      @randibgood Месяц назад +9

      Exactly. He didn't even do texts, if memory serves. He had his minions do that. But it was mostly all verbal, in person.

    • @pendorran
      @pendorran Месяц назад

      Truth is that Trump and his family should have been prosecuted for their dirty business practices decades ago. Manhattan DAs have been way too timid (or worse) in dealing with rich/donor White Collar criminals. That includes Robert Morgenthau, for all his reputation, and more recently Cy Vance Jr/

    • @homerroad
      @homerroad Месяц назад +3

      He has not been acting like a criminal for decades. He has been a criminal for decades. Still is.

  • @user-tu4rn8ui9u
    @user-tu4rn8ui9u Месяц назад +130

    Don’t want to be a convicted president. Don’t commit crimes! Not that hard.

    • @randibgood
      @randibgood Месяц назад

      There are 45 others, well maybe not Nixon, that haven't had an issue with a prosecution or a prison sentence. There should not be enough citizens that support a TRAITOR. A RAPIST. A CONVICTED FELON.

    • @garbonomics
      @garbonomics Месяц назад +1

      Explain the crime. 😂

  • @darelvanderhoof6176
    @darelvanderhoof6176 Месяц назад +288

    Yes, Ford made a bad mistake pardoning Nixon.

    • @louise_rose
      @louise_rose Месяц назад

      Agree, but he felt he had to in order to get past all the bad blood. South Africa did something similar, on a much bigger scale, after apartheid::the "Truth and Reconciliation commission" scheme effectively gave many people cover or a blanket pardon, people who had (most likely) committed political murders, torture or rape or had ordered such acts - during the apartheid era. It was seen as necessary to avoid a civil war that could tear the country apart.
      Last week I saw an interview on the BBC with Gillian Slovo, daughter of Joe Slovo and Ruth First, two famous anti-apartheid activists who were murdered with a car bomb by the secret police of the old (White Supa) republic. She had actually met one of the men who most likely planted the bomb and had been able to ask him; he denied that he had been guilty of course, but he had never been judicially charged for the crime either because the whole thing was covered. He had walked away- "I accept that it was a political necessity, but I am not forgiving the people who killed my parents".

    • @johnburnside7828
      @johnburnside7828 Месяц назад +6

      He didn't make a mistake. That's the only reason Nixon made him Vice-President. And it's ironic that Ford's birth name was King, so we had an unelected king running the country and making a mockery of our laws.

    • @abocas
      @abocas Месяц назад +3

      Ford did explain why he pardoned Nixon.
      Think there is something on YT about that.

    • @rambleon2838
      @rambleon2838 Месяц назад

      Ford did it pre-emptively from keeping Nixon out of a trial and possible jail time. McConnell did it for similar reasons for not impeaching him in the Senate. It's all about the party first. A pardon is just another stay or get out of jail card for the rich and powerful. The other reason may have been that the conservatives saw a window of opportunity to get some political traction and start chipping away of the FDR and Kennedy/Johnson policies after having cleared the way of Irish.

    • @mike7721
      @mike7721 Месяц назад +3

      The American media is worried about Trump...😂😂😂😂
      What about inflation, illegal immigrants and wars....

  • @humanbeing9352
    @humanbeing9352 Месяц назад +44

    How could a convicted felon even get close to public office. - makes absolutely no sense?

  • @davidlombard3167
    @davidlombard3167 Месяц назад +88

    Nixon was a choir boy compared to trump. Given Trump's threats intimidation and complete lack of remorse the judge has no choice but to give him the maximum possible sentences!

    • @mybachhertzbaud3074
      @mybachhertzbaud3074 Месяц назад +3

      Hmm, A paranoid alcoholic vs a malignant narcissist, ? I will have to think this one over.🤔

    • @kuleebaba9014
      @kuleebaba9014 Месяц назад +3

      A choir boy in terms of capacity for criminality, but as President and statesman, Trump is the choir boy compared to Nixon.

    • @user-kn6vy5zj3z
      @user-kn6vy5zj3z Месяц назад +7

      Both are crooks!

    • @kuleebaba9014
      @kuleebaba9014 Месяц назад

      @@user-kn6vy5zj3z Sure, but Trump is its poster boy cuz he brings "crookery" to another level

    • @LJ-ht4zs
      @LJ-ht4zs Месяц назад

      @@mybachhertzbaud3074 Nixon founded EPA and opened up relations with China.

  • @Soapandwater6
    @Soapandwater6 Месяц назад +219

    Good grief! A former President who leaves office doesn't have a thing to worry about - unless he has committed crimes! Let his political opponents knock themselves out charging him with x,y,z. If there were no crimes, a jury will find him not guilty. If a President commits crimes, I WANT him to be held accountable after he leaves office. After 249 years, only Nixon and Trump have done that, so what is the big deal about protecting former Presidents from prosecution? The vast majority do not commit crimes.

    • @gerriperreault6905
      @gerriperreault6905 Месяц назад +9

      Very good points.

    • @oldbeatpete
      @oldbeatpete Месяц назад +1

      (or did they?!)

    • @bastiat6865
      @bastiat6865 Месяц назад +2

      At the very least, if there were crimes they weren't obvious and poorly obfuscated.

    • @nojustno4859
      @nojustno4859 Месяц назад +4

      This doesn’t make sense

    • @Failed_President
      @Failed_President Месяц назад

      Joe Biden is too senile to be prosecuted for stealing classified documents, but he still can be president. 😂

  • @maryque300
    @maryque300 Месяц назад +91

    I love that line. Don’t elect convicts in office.

    • @darweb3417
      @darweb3417 Месяц назад +1

      If we did that half of congress wouldn't be there, including Biden.

    • @writersquill433
      @writersquill433 Месяц назад

      @@darweb3417 the House GOP-led investigative committee failed to produce or show any evidence of wrongdoing by President Biden. 0 evidence, 0 crimes. Keep fishing for fish that don’t exist.

    • @willmont8258
      @willmont8258 Месяц назад

      @@writersquill433 There is more evidence of Biden crimes than Trump. What Trump is accused of are made up, fake crimes. Biden on the other hand did get money from his son's "business", which we all know came from foreign "companies" which were buying access by giving his son millions of $$$ for NO ACTUAL WORK OR LEGITIMATE REASON.

    • @daydays12
      @daydays12 Месяц назад +1

      The Constitution allows it! What a country!

    • @krisowy79
      @krisowy79 Месяц назад +4

      @@darweb3417 thats just straight up bullshit

  • @EricSmith-wt2qu
    @EricSmith-wt2qu Месяц назад +51

    This Republican response to a JURY verdict is outrageous !

    • @coldwarveteran4239
      @coldwarveteran4239 Месяц назад +4

      @arturbello4213No, if the Republican leadership did their job after Jan 6 we wouldn’t have this problem. But even Today we have GOP leaders that are not full blown cult members, defending a convicted criminal. Because keeping control is more important than doing what is right.

    • @sw5114
      @sw5114 29 дней назад

      That is so correct. It is outrageous behavior. Near criminal.. Immoral actually..

    • @sw5114
      @sw5114 29 дней назад

      @arturbello4213vote for Biden in any case. It will go further into showing that maga-ism was defeated, and roundly so, by correct thinking Americans.

    • @brendajones7756
      @brendajones7756 29 дней назад

      Biden has been a good President. If you think he's so bad did you give the money he gave us Back? I don't think so. Biden No crimes, Trump Plenty of Crimes committed. Trump will become a Dictator, Watch listen to him.

  • @christineolsson5037
    @christineolsson5037 Месяц назад +50

    More reason the Electoral college needs to go

    • @willmont8258
      @willmont8258 Месяц назад

      So you Dems are the ones who want dictatorship.

    • @r.pres.4121
      @r.pres.4121 Месяц назад +4

      Or it needs to be revamped. Electoral votes should be determined by the popular votes of each state.

    • @isko00011
      @isko00011 29 дней назад

      at least altered, borrow from Maine & Nebraska, expand it to something that resembles a parliamentary election. But how do we get 50 states to agree when we can't even address gerrymandering? First we have to get past trump, the GOP has to clean itself up & if that can happen, the Dems have to remember not to gloat during the process or exploit the process. SCOTUS needs to be accountable and set term limits as well. Say what we will about Alito and Thomas, I think anybody can become corrupt if they feel above the law & both of them seem to have developed political or social bias.

    • @buzoff4642
      @buzoff4642 28 дней назад

      @@r.pres.4121 All electors going to a state's majority vote is voiding the votes of the others in that state. Win/win for the parties, lose/lose for the voters.

  • @user-nh5xy8rt7q
    @user-nh5xy8rt7q Месяц назад +40

    This constitution need to be amended no criminal of first degree charges shouldn’t be allowed to run for office

    • @ericscottstevens
      @ericscottstevens Месяц назад

      Yeah
      like hiding documents behind the Corvette,
      storing of more classified documents on a college campus.
      accepting grift money from foreign powers
      Thanks for the idea

    • @stephentipton341
      @stephentipton341 29 дней назад

      I 100% agree our constitution needs to be updated. A convicted felon and sex offender should not be able to hold the highest office of our country and title of Commander in Chief. Again, he lost in 2020 and did not accept the outcome and he will not accept the outcome of this election either, unless he wins.

  • @user-zu7gk9ol9f
    @user-zu7gk9ol9f Месяц назад +58

    I so appreciate a knowledgeable guest being able to answer at length without the customary sound bite need. This was like a coffee table discussion with a knowledgeable friend! Thank you!

    • @paulettemusic
      @paulettemusic Месяц назад +3

      you said it. He's a good talker.

  • @stevenhanson6749
    @stevenhanson6749 Месяц назад +13

    So why don't we hold the supreme Court judges to the same standards?

    • @buzoff4642
      @buzoff4642 28 дней назад

      Ironic, isn't it. All this R flap over "political" judge/prosecutor, after circumventing Senate rules for Supreme Court seats?

  • @dennyworthington6641
    @dennyworthington6641 Месяц назад +29

    Guilty as charged on 34 felony counts!!! A great day for America. All decent Americans are celebrating from coast to coast. Hallelujah baby!!

    • @chris6559
      @chris6559 Месяц назад +5

      Not just America, pretty happy with the verdict here in the UK too..

    • @willmont8258
      @willmont8258 Месяц назад +1

      @@chris6559 Is the UK next on the list for political show trials? We now have them here in America.

    • @joancooney7724
      @joancooney7724 Месяц назад +1

      @@willmont8258Anyone Committing Crimes should be held accountable,Grow Up

    • @willmont8258
      @willmont8258 Месяц назад +2

      @@joancooney7724 There were no crimes here. You need to understand how the law works, because you don't.

  • @patrichards8855
    @patrichards8855 Месяц назад +123

    Kings and Queens have had their heads lopped off.

    • @Soapandwater6
      @Soapandwater6 Месяц назад +10

      Sure have! 😂

    • @kineahora8736
      @kineahora8736 Месяц назад +8

      Excellent point.
      I have been advocating the Robespierre approach for sometime now…

    • @c.a.savage5689
      @c.a.savage5689 Месяц назад +3

      ​​@@kineahora8736 Touché. I would point out however, that those who foment revolution often end up on the scaffold themselves. Sooner rather than later.

    • @kineahora8736
      @kineahora8736 Месяц назад

      @@c.a.savage5689 thoroughly aware of that- and as someone who makes an extremely good salary, the masses tend to not be able to distinguish me from the people that are causing all of these problems (billionaires/captains of industry and such). Yet it takes the buy-in of the upper middle class to really fix things (overthrowing the corrupt status quo), which then redounds against their own short-term interest…
      Of course, if things get bad enough for other reasons… (I am Jewish, and things are getting very bad for us -right wing populists have always been deep Jew-haters/NAZIS, but after the poisoning of the liberal minds by Edward Said at Columbia Univ., now he left is just as bad if not worse).

    • @yourturn777
      @yourturn777 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@kineahora8736
      no idea what that is😂 yea, just an average commenter.
      But I like the sound of it.

  • @yin-yang-gal
    @yin-yang-gal Месяц назад +40

    This interview is brilliant. Timothy Naftali brought such profound insights to the table. Towards the end he puts it across so cogently.

  • @VonnieOdette
    @VonnieOdette Месяц назад +26

    The character of the candidate matters.

  • @nikolasb5111
    @nikolasb5111 Месяц назад +81

    His greatest virtue is his ability to bring out the worst in us.

    • @TerriObrien-mi5rx
      @TerriObrien-mi5rx Месяц назад +6

      So very true,what a legacy,unfortunately due to his cognitive decline he’s beyond contrition,his cult are just emboldened by his crimes and lies 🤡🤡👿

    • @TIMOGO3
      @TIMOGO3 Месяц назад +1

      @@TerriObrien-mi5rx W.Shakespeare couldn't have said that better.

    • @GeorgeWilliamson-sn9ie
      @GeorgeWilliamson-sn9ie Месяц назад +3

      Just change "virtue" to "skill" .... he is not virtuous !

    • @CarlosArizona
      @CarlosArizona Месяц назад

      Jesus is my Crutch. Trump is my Enabler.

    • @pisces363
      @pisces363 29 дней назад

      He doesn’t bring out the worst in us. His supporters were already the worst in us. We knew who they were before Trump came along.

  • @c.a.savage5689
    @c.a.savage5689 Месяц назад +35

    Excellent interview. Tim Naftali is an intelligent and lucid man. Such as is rarely seen on American television.

    • @c.a.savage5689
      @c.a.savage5689 Месяц назад +3

      @DonaldDeBerry-gc6rx Pick a language, any language, and write something that makes sense. Please.

  • @Other3.5
    @Other3.5 Месяц назад +69

    The president and The Presidency are two separate things.
    The president is a job for which we choose and employ someone to fill for us for a fixed period of time.
    The Presidency is the head position of one of our three branches of government.
    If someone who happens to have been employed as president is convicted of a crime, they must serve the time.
    If they don't, it makes a mockery of The Presidency and our form of government and us.
    Nixon should have gone to trial, and if convicted, should have been sent to prison. Gerald Ford made a catastrophic mistake in pardoning Nixon.

  • @happinessisallyouneed5203
    @happinessisallyouneed5203 Месяц назад +99

    Karma is real and finally trump have had a taste of his own medicine 💊

    • @firstname7470
      @firstname7470 Месяц назад

      He didn't get anything except elevated in status from his minions. Now they can truly vote for someone who understands them.

    • @daydays12
      @daydays12 Месяц назад

      He won't go to prison and the three serious trials have been stopped.

    • @krisowy79
      @krisowy79 Месяц назад

      @@daydays12 by republican - what a total moral roth they are

    • @daydays12
      @daydays12 Месяц назад

      @@krisowy79 Yes they are

    • @helveticaification
      @helveticaification 29 дней назад

      That remains to be seen (watching from UK)......

  • @SLucy
    @SLucy Месяц назад +20

    This was the most honest discussion I’ve heard

  • @jaycharlton2085
    @jaycharlton2085 Месяц назад +15

    This guest is brilliant!

  • @Rilianawakened321
    @Rilianawakened321 Месяц назад +31

    Mr. Naftali makes a great point about full immunity for sitting and former presidents, and how bad that would actually be. Certainly, in Donald Trump's case, where he clearly craves the ability to commit crimes with impunity, it would be an absolute disaster.
    NO person, no matter who they are or what office they hold/have held, should EVER be immune to prosecution for crimes or treasonous speech and behavior.

  • @noodlewhitley
    @noodlewhitley Месяц назад +19

    This guy is great! Thanks for the education.

  • @ericramsteijn8959
    @ericramsteijn8959 Месяц назад +67

    What is also unprecedented is that no safeguards have ever been put in place to prevent nepotism and sycophants from being appointed to positions for which they have no expertise or proven experience.

    • @daydays12
      @daydays12 Месяц назад +1

      Indeed

    • @mopelolaadegoke3092
      @mopelolaadegoke3092 Месяц назад

      Thank you for this statement. I believe that experience matters in all areas of human endeavors. Particularly, in ruling over 320 million surfisticated population. America deserves a candidate with proofed experience, integrity, and character to lead them.

    • @stephenheath8465
      @stephenheath8465 Месяц назад +1

      Trump was the first true Populist to becoming POTUS.We had populist like Presidents like the two Roosevelts and Andrew Jackson,etc

    • @neilritson7445
      @neilritson7445 29 дней назад

      @@mopelolaadegoke3092 "surfisticated" ! that speaks volumes!

    • @helveticaification
      @helveticaification 29 дней назад

      The Founding Fathers never dreamed that someone as blatantly corrupt as trump could ascend the steps towards the Presidency.

  • @janetmelton6890
    @janetmelton6890 Месяц назад +48

    What America needs, is to see this accountability in our Justice system. If a convicted felon cannot vote … how, in a legal sense, can he be able to run for any office.

    • @leeannsolice7473
      @leeannsolice7473 Месяц назад

      Sadly, whether Trump will be able to vote is still unclear. It is likely to depend on whether he is sentenced to jail time and the timeline of his appeal process.

  • @ryanb9526
    @ryanb9526 Месяц назад +16

    I beg to differ ... the story that future historians will tell of Trump and the pandemic is one of deadly incompetence and failure by the President.

    • @EdwardEmmick
      @EdwardEmmick Месяц назад

      He had no background in science and wouldn't listen to those that did. Obama had left a response plan, but Trump ignored and dismantled the system.

    • @willmont8258
      @willmont8258 Месяц назад

      @@EdwardEmmick More BS.

    • @sw5114
      @sw5114 29 дней назад

      Hardness to comprehension truth is a terrible disease,

  • @peterphan227
    @peterphan227 Месяц назад +44

    They should build the Trump Presidential Library in a prison, or prison cell. Heck, name a prison after him. He deserves that honor. 😄

    • @kineahora8736
      @kineahora8736 Месяц назад

      The Trump” library” is already kind of an oxymoron- a man who basically didn’t read other than a few Hitler speeches.
      It should be constructed of toilet paper and dried excrement , and be built in the Kearney dump.

    • @silvialeprattomazza6214
      @silvialeprattomazza6214 Месяц назад +5

      He's never read a book in his life. A library. Last thing on his mind.

    • @davidgiles9651
      @davidgiles9651 Месяц назад +2

      And, put in the banned books ONLY

    • @helveticaification
      @helveticaification 29 дней назад

      It would only house one book, though: 1001 Swindles.

    • @kineahora8736
      @kineahora8736 29 дней назад

      Should be constructed of toilet paper with dried excrement…

  • @GroovyVideo2
    @GroovyVideo2 Месяц назад +30

    Long term Felon finally Convicted

  • @dianafromcalifornia5127
    @dianafromcalifornia5127 Месяц назад +9

    I appreciate Naftali perspective always. Just a brilliant mind.

  • @cravingcaving
    @cravingcaving Месяц назад +16

    And I quote: "my neighbor said to me..HEY LOOK, NIXON DIDN'T GO TO JAIL" tell your neighbor he's an idiot because Nixon wasn't convicted of a crime! You can't go to jail unless your convicted duh!

  • @nojustno4859
    @nojustno4859 Месяц назад +15

    So crazy that we are at this point

    • @maltlickytexas
      @maltlickytexas Месяц назад

      It has been 247 years in the making.😂

  • @JohnAranita
    @JohnAranita Месяц назад +48

    PBS is there to inform an electorate.

    • @darweb3417
      @darweb3417 Месяц назад +1

      PBS is there to spew biased lies.

    • @willmont8258
      @willmont8258 Месяц назад

      PBS is BS.

    • @r.pres.4121
      @r.pres.4121 Месяц назад

      That is why republicans want to either privatize it or shut it down by cutting off all public funding.

    • @willmont8258
      @willmont8258 Месяц назад

      @@r.pres.4121 Because if it is funded in part with tax dollars, it should not be one sided in favor of one political party and biased against the other.

  • @mgreg8134
    @mgreg8134 Месяц назад +10

    This proves that our judicial system works as it is designed to work. It is about time the rich and powerful are held to account for crimes they committ.

  • @matthewhuszarik4173
    @matthewhuszarik4173 Месяц назад +10

    Presidents should live their lives like they can be held accountable. Just as the rest of us do. If the evidence rises to the level of an indictment then indict.

  • @dm-heart
    @dm-heart Месяц назад +10

    6:40 the gentleman has some good & important points. No one & no leader, including presidents,should be looking for a free pass to commit crime.

  • @margaos1
    @margaos1 Месяц назад +35

    Excellent !!

    • @coreyham3753
      @coreyham3753 Месяц назад +1

      Not really. Did not find this presidential historian very informative at all. And certainly not mentioning some of the important failures of the the Chump 4 years of incompetence and virtually nothing accomplished.

    • @c.a.savage5689
      @c.a.savage5689 Месяц назад

      ​@@coreyham3753 l don't agree. He would have sounded extremely partisan if he done so. He is looking at the 4 years of Trump from a long-term historical standpoint. Pretty much everything Trump did: pulling out of the Paris Accords, cancelling the Iran nuclear agreement, cuddling up to dictators, tax breaks for the 1%, rolling back environmental regulations are ALL seen as positive from the Republican side.

    • @coreyham3753
      @coreyham3753 Месяц назад

      @@c.a.savage5689 Really ??? The latest presidential historians survey which included hundreds of presidential historians and ranks presidents on 20 different criterion ranks Chump virtually right at the bottom of all presidents over history. It is hardly partisan to rate Chump as a dismal failure based on his history and record. That is just a FACT and supported by tons
      of evidence and observations. To fail to point that out indicates a lack of credibility and probably bias and rank partisianship.

  • @jwnich179
    @jwnich179 Месяц назад +9

    Fantastic discussion, extremely helpful for navigating this moment

  • @janetpartyka5968
    @janetpartyka5968 Месяц назад +23

    Gerald Ford had no backbone to do the right thing.

    • @r.pres.4121
      @r.pres.4121 Месяц назад +2

      Very similar to Senator Mitch McConnell. A spineless scardy cat.

    • @jamestomkin8784
      @jamestomkin8784 Месяц назад

      He was also part of the sham Warren Commission!

  • @Taking_Back_Thyme
    @Taking_Back_Thyme Месяц назад +26

    How do we stop this madness

    • @SteveBrant55
      @SteveBrant55 Месяц назад +1

      Never elect criminal con men (or women) again... this includes con men like Marco Rubio, LIndsey Graham... con women like MTG... and governors like Abbott of Texas. Just my 2 cents.

    • @mylesandeli
      @mylesandeli Месяц назад +2

      Amen.

    • @TheAngelaoddone
      @TheAngelaoddone Месяц назад +12

      Vote, phone bank and canvass in key swing states. With a large voter turnout and accurate count of the vote, we should be able to vote out every MAGA Republican.

    • @user-nh5xy8rt7q
      @user-nh5xy8rt7q Месяц назад

      It’s impossible that no one understood that man character yet ?? Why all keep overpower over valued over credit a buffoon comedian ? the only thing that gives him this much attention is his money and nothing else
      Be president it’s just a title for him he didn’t behave like one and he never will
      The only reasons he want to be president is for his personnel revenge to show that he is in power and can do what ever he want, it’s just that title give him the permission to do that not because he is powerful inside him such Putin
      He is a perfect comedian why no one see that ?

    • @carltondavis1203
      @carltondavis1203 Месяц назад

      Elect Joe Biden and elect democrats to hold the majorities in the Senate and House. Republicans and Trump supporters have been complicit in damaging our democracy and justice system.

  • @darricksullivan7059
    @darricksullivan7059 Месяц назад +10

    He knew he lost,lies on top of lies.

  • @Jamesjihoonkwak
    @Jamesjihoonkwak Месяц назад +6

    In South Korea the presidents have often moved from their blue house to jail house after their terms because of corruptions.

  • @JosephHuether
    @JosephHuether Месяц назад +14

    For heaven sake…sometimes , for the sake of the republic…you just HAVE TO CONVICT the “ham sandwich”!

    • @oldbeatpete
      @oldbeatpete Месяц назад

      yes! It's ok to take out the bad guy. Remember growing up and the refrain was 'should they have taken out Hitler in the beginning'!

  • @jim2376
    @jim2376 Месяц назад +12

    Putin to self: "Well, I got him office in 2016 thanks to the Electoral College, but with the conviction, it's not looking too good this year."

  • @pattiharrison1211
    @pattiharrison1211 Месяц назад +9

    Not alleged anymore, he was found guilty

  • @era_s
    @era_s Месяц назад +17

    Very interesting interview!

  • @user-db6ps7pb7d
    @user-db6ps7pb7d Месяц назад +18

    Former president

  • @vinsvids1
    @vinsvids1 Месяц назад +3

    So proud of my country right now. No one truly is above the law. 'Merica 🇺🇸

  • @wholefoodplantbasedmama5398
    @wholefoodplantbasedmama5398 Месяц назад +3

    It is referred to as ‘The devil on horseback” it is when a political leader causes so much pain and anguish to others that he/she cannot let go of power without suffering extreme punishment.

  • @JR-pr8jb
    @JR-pr8jb Месяц назад +3

    Hari Sreenivasan, hard-to-spell name but such a talented interviewer.

  • @RichardRutcosky
    @RichardRutcosky Месяц назад +3

    Tim your commentary is spot on thank you for your candor well said

  • @susha4511
    @susha4511 Месяц назад +6

    Wonderful. Thank you ✨️

  • @maryque300
    @maryque300 Месяц назад +9

    January 6 was Thumps undoing. He should accept that fact and go away

    • @chrisfreebairn870
      @chrisfreebairn870 Месяц назад

      Even after Jan 6, if tRrump had decided to just fade away & leave politics, having dodged 2 impeachment bullets .. he probably would have avoided charges, bc no one really wants to indict a former President (bc it dishonours the Office of the Presidency).
      He won the lottery 3 times - getting elected + 2 impeachments, but he's always been a gambler who backs his own judgment against all odds; in thousands of law suits he imposed his will or escaped responsibility for his deliberate criminal actions, so no chance he'd make a rational decision & take his winnings, & his ongoing risk off the table, he only saw the loss of face in losing to sleepy Joe, so like all big losing gamblers, totally misperceived the odds.
      His epithet will be " He did it to himself, all of it!"
      Ours, "We let it happen .. !"
      Hopefully, "once, not twice!"

  • @brad9092
    @brad9092 Месяц назад +12

    This man has mastered the art of hand motions in conversation.

    • @sclogse1
      @sclogse1 Месяц назад +1

      He's been watching Ari Melber.

    • @Breezeyogi
      @Breezeyogi Месяц назад

      Hilarious.

    • @mybachhertzbaud3074
      @mybachhertzbaud3074 Месяц назад

      Gang signs?🤔

    • @brad9092
      @brad9092 Месяц назад

      @@mybachhertzbaud3074 could be visual codes sent to all the white supremacists. 🤓

  • @deepashtray5605
    @deepashtray5605 Месяц назад +12

    Unfortunately for the GOP they now have no choice but to support Trump because his fan base would absolutely ensure that no other replacement candidate would be allowed to even consider running; anyone other than their Man would be too much of a conspiracy for them to swallow.

    • @dhix2388
      @dhix2388 Месяц назад +4

      I understand. BUT using self preservation trashing the rule of law and the Constituton is a pitiful excuse. {maybe a spine would help}

    • @deepashtray5605
      @deepashtray5605 Месяц назад +8

      @@dhix2388 Most of the GOP leadership seems to have lost their spine a while back.

    • @Canuck1000
      @Canuck1000 Месяц назад +3

      @@deepashtray5605 Indeed. They could have easily cut ties with him during the second impeachment (looking at the senate).

    • @trainrecked
      @trainrecked Месяц назад

      @@dhix2388 The TRump cult and their leaders are spinless to call out their trash..meaning Trump and several others in GOP! Mitch McConnel is a lot at fault here!!

  • @TimeIsAFlatCircle612
    @TimeIsAFlatCircle612 Месяц назад +4

    Ladies and Gentlemen we've hit rock bottom, thank you for playing

  • @lfrost6718
    @lfrost6718 Месяц назад +4

    Brillant interview! Many thanks!

  • @herrweiss2580
    @herrweiss2580 Месяц назад +15

    Yes, Negative Charisma.

  • @solarwind907
    @solarwind907 Месяц назад +6

    Pretty awesome jury! Glad the judge kept them Anonymous. President Bone Spurs for “inmate of the month” at Rikers!

  • @kierfm957
    @kierfm957 Месяц назад +2

    Brilliant interview. Some really important questions raised. Really really good interview.

  • @kathleenconway5774
    @kathleenconway5774 Месяц назад +2

    Thank you so much for this excellent segment. What a knowledgeable and reasonable historian.

  • @DesiHorton
    @DesiHorton Месяц назад +9

    Waiting to see RUMP'S orange jumpsuit match his face power😮

  • @TheAngelaoddone
    @TheAngelaoddone Месяц назад +17

    Best quote from this interview: "Don't elect convicts to office." Apparently common sense isn't as common as we would like for it to be.
    The voting data does show that the unequal recovery of the economy following the 2008 recession reflects how many working voters felt about the Obama Administration's banks "too big to fail" bailout and that Administration's response to the mortgage crisis -- the HAMP and HARP programs that got the bad mortgage loans off the banks' and mortgage companies' books rather than helping to keep people in their homes + the failure to create jobs -- especially those that paid a living wage with decent benefits, its anti-union stance combined with aspects of the Affordable Care Act that, after too much compromise, are corporate welfare to health insurance, pharmaceutical and health IT companies led voters who voted for Obama twice to vote for Trump in 2016. Add misogyny, racism and homophobia and you can see how Trump's rhetoric played so well to so many. The media's relentless coverage of Trump -- because ratings equals profits -- also helped him get elected.

  • @urkiddingme6254
    @urkiddingme6254 Месяц назад +4

    I think the historian has it out of sequence. It's true that he Special Prosecutor was appointed after DJT announced he would run for another term. But DJT did not announce he would run for a second term until after he was notified that he was under investigation for J6. The Justice Dept made the first move.

    • @blackstorm9755
      @blackstorm9755 Месяц назад

      When he DECIDED sic BARR on Cohen and any other perceived enemies back in 2017 and 2018...
      You Know -- WHEN HE WAS PRESIDENT!!

  • @evelynmariagonzalez5020
    @evelynmariagonzalez5020 День назад

    I had Professor Naftali as a student at the Gilder Lehrman Institute for Teachers and we learned loads from his decades experience as a historian and modern day thinker- PLEASE bring him back on for today's SCOTUS decision.

  • @jumpneve
    @jumpneve Месяц назад +1

    Fabulous interview with salient points to consider about those left behind. Thank you

  • @lydiabell6218
    @lydiabell6218 Месяц назад +3

    "Never before", Trumps favorite phrase....................🤗

  • @therealrhodiemx
    @therealrhodiemx Месяц назад +3

    If you do the crime you do the time President or not. If the rule of law applies to everyone EQUALLY, then even a President should pay for his crimes. Including prison if that would be anyone else's punishment. PERIOD!!

  • @wk4240
    @wk4240 Месяц назад +1

    Great discussion, and respect by the moderator and guest. 👍 MSNBC, CNN, . . . This is your model.
    The Solution . . .
    🌊 🌊 🌊 🗽 🗽 🗽 ⚖️ ⚖️ ⚖️

  • @gloria6396
    @gloria6396 Месяц назад +2

    VERY IMPORTANT INSIGHTS THAK YOU

  • @markdcmountp
    @markdcmountp Месяц назад +4

    “DON’T ELECT CONVICTS TO OFFICE”.. EXACTLY 👍🏼🇺🇸⚖️🇺🇸🗽🙏🕊️

  • @richardengelhardt582
    @richardengelhardt582 Месяц назад +3

    Not just "a" crime, but thirty-four (34) felonies.

    • @willmont8258
      @willmont8258 Месяц назад

      No crimes, no felonies. This will be overturned because there were NO CRIMES HERE.

  • @levenscott645
    @levenscott645 Месяц назад +1

    Excellent analysis.

  • @kentam5361
    @kentam5361 Месяц назад +5

    Those conservatives on the US Supreme Court should learn from history to be impartial upholding the laws of the land.

    • @willmont8258
      @willmont8258 Месяц назад

      Yet it is the Dems who don't do that. Charging someone with a fake crime for political reasons is one of the worst crimes of history, and now the US is doing it to Trump, just like the communist block did to people in eastern Europe.

  • @louise_rose
    @louise_rose Месяц назад +8

    Many constitutions contain "grey areas" or blind angles that are tacitly understood should not be tested, and the effect when somebody finally does test them with force can be explosive or very harmful. A typical example: even if the UK doesn't have a separate, single and "walled-off" constitution, it's part of their foundation of state laws that 1) the PM must have the trust of the Monarch and must not deceive him/her, 2) the Monarch is not supposed to stand down a PM over something the PM himself really wants. No English king or queen over the last three hundred years has forced away a PM by saying "I don't believe you and I am not going to do what you just asked of me" (as head of state).
    In late 2019, Boris pushed that button by asking (or pretty much ordering?) the Queen to prorogue parliament (send them home) during a critical phase of the Brexit negotiations. It had to be done in her name, he could not do it himself, and he invented some excuse for it. I think Elizabeth grasped the real reason was that he wanted to be free from parliament during most of the final lap of negotiations with Brussels, and he wanted a fait accompli to present to Westminster. Technically Elizabeth could have said No, but it would have triggered a deep constitutional crisis and a possible breakdown in relations with the EU, which were already strained, , so she held back and did what he asked for., even though many people resented it. Boris' gamble paid off for himself, but the final Brexit deal was rushed and left many questions unanswered.
    In the US, the question "How do you hold someone legally accountable for crimes they committed in the course of a presidential election campaign, if they manage to win and take the White House?" is a similar grey zone. POTUS and many of his closest associates enjoy legal immunity once they have entered the White House, so it's almost impossible to indict them or bring them to court over crimes that happened on the road to the White House - an the president has major abilities to stump an inquiry into such crimes. The Mueller inquiry showed that. The Cohen/Daniels trial would have been impossible if Trump had still been sitting in the White House, the January 6-related trials too.

    • @margo3367
      @margo3367 Месяц назад +2

      But, the no indictment rule of a sitting President is not in our Constitution; rather, it’s a memo in the Department of Justice that hasn’t yet been challenged.

    • @ericlipps9459
      @ericlipps9459 Месяц назад +4

      In America, President Dwight Eisenhower strongly disagreed with the Supreme Court's 1954 _Brown v. Board of Education_ decision declaring school segregation unconstitutional. However, when in 1957 Arkansas Gov. Orval Faubus mobilized the state's National Guard to prevent a group of black students from entering Little Rock's Central High School, Eisenhower felt he had no choice but to enforce the Court's ruling and federalized the Guard to instead protect the students as they entered.
      If Eisenhower had thought as Trump seems to, he'd have backed Faubus instead and in effect told the Supreme Court that its rulings only counted if he approved of them. Banana Republicanism.

    • @louise_rose
      @louise_rose Месяц назад

      @@margo3367 The entry bar for allowing an indictment of a sitting president is twenty times higher than for any ordinary citizen. Yes, not in the constitution per se but it's still in "constitutional praxis". Many aspects of the US constitution have never really been road tested by SCOTUS either..

    • @margo3367
      @margo3367 Месяц назад

      @@louise_rose Where do you get the “20 times higher” figure? Also, a memo does not in any way form a part of our Constitution.

    • @c.a.savage5689
      @c.a.savage5689 Месяц назад

      With hindsight, it's a pity Queen Elizabeth didn't say NO. Boris Johnson is a fool and a charlatan (inspite of his charm and Eton education) and Brexit is a disaster. Brexit should have been nipped in the bud.

  • @michellem-s1108
    @michellem-s1108 Месяц назад +4

    Trump: No one before has been persecuted so terribly! I did nothing wrong!
    The Exonerated CentralPark 5: Karma, man. Karma.

  • @garfieldv2
    @garfieldv2 Месяц назад +1

    A well spoken man. Very insightful.

    • @user-hi5eh3xi7z
      @user-hi5eh3xi7z Месяц назад

      Maybe you can marry him? 👨🏻‍❤️‍💋‍👨🏻😍

    • @joancooney7724
      @joancooney7724 Месяц назад

      @@user-hi5eh3xi7zTrump said you wanted some of his 🍄.😂

  • @ShafiahBenaissa
    @ShafiahBenaissa Месяц назад +1

    Excellent interview!!

  • @patriciasheldon6273
    @patriciasheldon6273 Месяц назад +4

    trump has had an affect on how we think about each other. His legacy is the division that is festering.

  • @kiandrah8517
    @kiandrah8517 Месяц назад +8

    Candidate with an elephant in the room instead of a wife....... #FemaleVotersTakeNote

  • @yourturn777
    @yourturn777 Месяц назад +1

    Hey Tim, You look great with that smile on your face!
    Ive been smiling all day long! 🌊💙🌊💪🏼🌊💙🌊✊🏼

  • @shermanefouche4162
    @shermanefouche4162 Месяц назад +1

    Unless he is punished in a substantial way the convictions mean nothing.

  • @ThomasHalways
    @ThomasHalways Месяц назад +3

    A great analysis. I felt the same difference to Nixon case, and I can understand Gerald Ford's decision to pardon Nixon. However, many Legal Eagles believe that Nixon should have been at the least indited. Trump behaves like a mobster, and the entire Republican party became infested by this way of acting.

  • @stevenvoorhees3107
    @stevenvoorhees3107 Месяц назад +3

    For a while, I've genuinely wondered how we as a nation arrived at Trump, Trump-ism and his "negative charisma" (Naftali's characterization). For me, this segment satiates my wonder. In outlining major phenoms of the past 15 years (the great recession, COVID) Naftali argues Trump became their "avatar." Trump also gave voice to cultural/political reverberations that resulted from the tumultuous shifts the two phenoms (and other phenoms) caused. Nothing about Trump is proactive -- only reactive. However, his/this reactive nature has power that neither really he nor us as a nation can neither fully comprehend -- or grasp.

  • @Elena-rt9yu
    @Elena-rt9yu Месяц назад +2

    Excellent !

  • @matthewhuszarik4173
    @matthewhuszarik4173 Месяц назад +2

    I will never give a damn about those who say they have been left behind again, who supported Trump. Damn everyone who ever supported Trump.

  • @user-ms2zw7wv5c
    @user-ms2zw7wv5c Месяц назад +3

    Good Explanation.

  • @dwilkinson4947
    @dwilkinson4947 Месяц назад +3

    To all criminals... run for president or Congress! You'll be amongst friends.

  • @peterpayne2219
    @peterpayne2219 Месяц назад +2

    Just throwing it out there, but South Korea has convicted, or actually did to the point of suicide, something like five of its six first presidents. So America is not the only country who has ever done this.

  • @user-gi2sv2pf4y
    @user-gi2sv2pf4y Месяц назад +1

    Thank you

  • @h.e.hazelhorst9838
    @h.e.hazelhorst9838 Месяц назад +12

    The sad thing is: he should have been convicted 2 years ago. That would have given the Republican party an opportunity to regain respectability and select a decent, credible candidate for the presidency. Now the elections are in jeopardy.

  • @bevwest7428
    @bevwest7428 Месяц назад +4

    That's funny, your guest is from the Ronald Reagan Library. So ironic. He was such a criminal. Teflon Ronnie.

  • @deviritter5232
    @deviritter5232 Месяц назад +1

    It’s a great day that we proved our politics - no one is above the law.
    It’s a disgrace that enough people in this country are willing to support a criminal for elected office. Our system presumes that people would make better choices.
    And about - what’s to say every other president won’t be indicted-- well, indicted criminals shouldn’t be promoted by political parties. Assuming indictments are effected in good faith with respect to the law - then we shouldn’t ever have to see this again. People need to make better choices.

  • @VegasVaron
    @VegasVaron Месяц назад +2

    Hard to get 12 people to agree to one thing, let alone to get 12 New Yorkers to agree to 34 things in one sitting! Guilty man!

  • @kimp4412
    @kimp4412 Месяц назад +3

    Do the crime...muat do time in jail

  • @helveticaification
    @helveticaification 29 дней назад

    I have lived on and off in USA as a student, and as a research worker, and was glad to do so. Now I am glad that it's all in the past - happier, healthier times.

  • @dm-heart
    @dm-heart Месяц назад +1

    Would like to hear from Jon Meacham on this, please. Maybe a conversation w/him and Maggie Haberman on this topic? They are great together.

  • @radhikaschwartz3499
    @radhikaschwartz3499 Месяц назад +10

    Heather Cox Richardson would have been a more powerful quest on this subject than Mr. Naftali. in my opiniion