Reminds me of movies where an AEM-7 (if copyright approved for use in a movie instead of a fictional engine), was pulling superliners with passengers in them. Forgot the title to it though, late at night 12 AM when I saw that
The Superliners were a special move to/from Philadelphia during the Papal Events to house employees due to all of the hotels in the area being booked. Superliners under the wires are a very uncommon sight, because they are used on long distance trains.
Amtrak should bring back the crossings for these reasons: 1. Overpasses have weight restrictions and Underpasses have height restrictions, whereas grade crossings have NO restrictions. 2. Grade crossing elimination on the line causes road users to make unnecessary detours because the streets get "interrupted" by the crossings. Thus, road users are forced to travel out-of-their-way, hither and yon just to reach their final destination. 3. Overpasses and Underpasses can collapse easily, but crossings can't.
This is really cool to see a Amtrak ACS-64 pulling this Superliner train. It looks amazing right there. I remember the first time riding on a train pulled by a ACS-64, was back in October 4th 2022 (last year) being pulled by Amtrak ACS-64 # 631.
They can to Philly and DC from the west. Not sure about between Philly and DC. They're a no-go in NYC or CT. I think they could go to Boston, but who wants to run a Chicago-Boston train that doesn't have an NYC section, and I'm not sure they have a platform for them in Boston anyway.
@@pdrumz534most of the catenary is within clearance, it’s the tunnels (and in New York’s case, the tunnels and the electric catenary) that are the issue
Great vid! I think it's cool seeing the sharp Amtrak trains under the wires in the rural/ suburban settings. And yes... very cool rare Superliners pulled by electrics.
i live in salunga, they were something to see. and at the 3:39 mark if you look under the bridge youll see tanker cars, that was where i worked. eventually made friends with some of the engineers that went by.
One time for the fun of it, I used my friends MTH Electric AEM-7 to pull my Lionel Superliners in O gauge. I didn't think it would nearly be replicated
+LoadsofTrains Check out their schedule online, they are putting a new schedule into effect on October 5. On weekdays, there is about one train an hour in each direction. On weekends, they run only about half as many trains.
I see theirs still one or two grades left on the keystone in Lancaster county, am i correct? Because i've heard the trains in this video blow their horn 4 times.
What type of tripod did you use? your videos are so great, especially with high speed trains flying by and not even shaking the camera even a tiny amount
Awesome video, but the question needs to be raised... HOW many freaking ditch light modes do those ACS-64s have!? I've seen the usual alternating, alternating strobe pattern, now i this one the same as a alternating strobe but, with the headlight not strobing on steady! Holy heck.
These Amtrak trains almost always have Superliners: Sunset Limited Southwest Chief California Zephyr Empire Builder Coast Starlight Auto Train Pere Marquette There are other trains that can rarely run with superliners: Amtrak's Wolverine, Carl Sandburg and Saluki have also done this.
Not to mention, many of the Superliners in CDTX service are refurbished units which were involved in wrecks, and of those, some are painted in either of the two CDTX schemes. And the San Joaquins also uses single-level cars which used to serve New Jersey Transit, derived from the Silverliner 1 EMUs along with either Horizon or (less frequently) Amfleet cafe cars.
They don't fit in the tunnels on either side, or in the station. Not a lot of places they fit on the actual corridor. Which is why they don't run them there.
+Owen Concorde I think it would be neat if they added a train that ran the entire length up-and-down the east coast with Superliners, but for now they are reserved for long-distance trains elsewhere. It seems like they meet all of the catenary clearances but there may be issues with them hitting sags. I'm not sure.
+Central Penn Rail Productions The stations catenary is too low. Coming out of Philadelphia they hit the wire. Lucky it was off for the move and a diesel pushed them past the clearance point
+Owen Concorde they are not certified for the NEC that's why they were brought via the Keystone. Reason is one there are height issues at stations and certain points on that line and they can't fit in the NY tunnels or the Boston tunnel. They are also made for low level platforms and not high level so it wouldn't make sense to run them if you can't use all the stations that are high level. That might work at a few stations on the Keystone like Exton and Paoli but not all. I filmed them coming through Paoli eastbound and let me tell you there wasn't much clearance between the wires and cars going under that bridge but they were sick to see.
+EMDSD14R Thanks and I didn't know that. I wonder if Amtrak wants special bilevels for the NEC, I mean cars built like their European counterparts in Germany, Austria, and the Netherlands. They might fit better than the superliners.
@@AmericansAlwaysFree it’s not economical in many places. Especially for freight. In many areas clearances are already barely enough for Auto Racks and Double stacks. If you want to run overhead wire as well it wouldn’t be possible without drastic clearance problems. Their are spots on the corridor for example where the wire is so low their is only a foot of room between the wire and the roof of a standard coach. It’s not a universal height.
Northeast corridor can move intermodal but only TOFC or single stacks NS used to run an hotshot with alot of mail and UPS trailers I believe superliners double stack and autoracks will not clear wires and tunnels
If you ask me I think they should make the capital limited like the lakeshore limited and have it split at Pitsburg like the lakeshore does at Albany and have half go to DC and the other Half Philly It would add a 2nd train on the route between Pitsburg and Harrisburg bosting service and over time could promote for superliners to head towards the NEC and the Northeast And Possibly A West Coast To Northeast Train Direct
There is, but only at main stations where the wires hang low. Power had to be turned off when they moved these out of Philly and also when they came into Harrisburg, because the cars came in contact with low-hanging arcs.
Kid Jae it’s not reversing. The cab car at the rear has controls to run the locomotive from the other end. It’s used when turning a train around is impossible or inefficient.
So I guess the only place Superliners cannot fit is Penn Station (even Sunnyside Yard is open-air 😂) Edit: Was referring to New York Penn. I've since learned that Baltimore Penn also has the same clearance issues
It is unusual to see electric locootives in US, thhink that is not simple to understand, as USA are advanced in technology and it could be quite simple to place a bit more catenaries, I think
It's only unusual if you don't live in the North East. Electric locomotives have been running for decades in the Northeast. Electrics aren't uncommon in the US. It's just the Northeast is the best place because of the proximity of all the major cities.
The Pennsylvania Railroad first electrified what is now the Keystone Corridor between Philadelphia and Paoli, PA in 1915, followed by what is now SEPTA's Chestnut Hill West Line in 1919, and both the Philadelphia-Wilmington (Delaware) section of the NEC and the West Chester Line in 1922. The catenary seen here was installed under Franklin Roosevelt's WPA program in the 1930's electrifying the Keystone Corridor from Harrisburg and Philadelphia, and the NEC from D.C. to NYC.
Wow, an ACS-64 hauling Superliners? That's definitely something you don't see often. Great rare catch!
@JojoBearTrainLoverakaSmootyyy Smoot’z It's the Keystone Corridor line. It was an equipment move.
Yes very rare indeed
Reminds me of movies where an AEM-7 (if copyright approved for use in a movie instead of a fictional engine), was pulling superliners with passengers in them.
Forgot the title to it though, late at night 12 AM when I saw that
The Superliners were a special move to/from Philadelphia during the Papal Events to house employees due to all of the hotels in the area being booked. Superliners under the wires are a very uncommon sight, because they are used on long distance trains.
+Matthew Gorres The Auto Train and the Capitol Limited have Superliners, but I believe that is it for the east coast.
Amtrak should bring back the crossings for these reasons:
1. Overpasses have weight restrictions and Underpasses have height restrictions, whereas grade crossings have NO restrictions.
2. Grade crossing elimination on the line causes road users to make unnecessary detours because the streets get "interrupted" by the crossings. Thus, road users are forced to travel out-of-their-way, hither and yon just to reach their final destination.
3. Overpasses and Underpasses can collapse easily, but crossings can't.
Where did they run from Philadelphia to?
shelby3024 / Cpr123 There are no Superliners that serve Philadelphia.
Central Penn Rail Productions the capital limited runs under catenary wires at Union station. The auto train is not under catenary territory.
This is really cool to see a Amtrak ACS-64 pulling this Superliner train. It looks amazing right there. I remember the first time riding on a train pulled by a ACS-64, was back in October 4th 2022 (last year) being pulled by Amtrak ACS-64 # 631.
To be honest, I didn't even know they can fit Superliners under the catenary. Nice Catch!
They can to Philly and DC from the west. Not sure about between Philly and DC. They're a no-go in NYC or CT. I think they could go to Boston, but who wants to run a Chicago-Boston train that doesn't have an NYC section, and I'm not sure they have a platform for them in Boston anyway.
@@woodalexander ey, don't sidestep Boston. It's actually a really cool city.
They can't go into New York City because they would foul tunnel clearances in and out of Penn Station.
Did you know why is fit in catenary?
Because it was a same as Massachusetts train that has double deckers
OMG!!!!!!An ACS-64 pulling a superliner!!!!!!!!I loooooovvvveee that you caught something you don't see every day :D
LOL I didn't know Superliners actually FIT under the catenary!
Aaaa that is visible in thumbnail of this video
I thought they were too high for the tunnels and Electric wired
@@genisaguilarpolo5310 I agree because there is no emissions and easily goes inside building platforms such as tunnels
@@pdrumz534 the tunnel in New York are too low for superliners
@@pdrumz534most of the catenary is within clearance, it’s the tunnels (and in New York’s case, the tunnels and the electric catenary) that are the issue
I hope if this winter is as bad as they say it ll be you ll do more snow train videos I enjoy watching your narrated channel
Sweet video Eric. The ACS leading the Superliners was pretty cool!
Awesome video 👍
1:49 WOW! It's not every day sou see an ACS64 pull superliners!
Great vid! I think it's cool seeing the sharp Amtrak trains under the wires in the rural/ suburban settings. And yes... very cool rare Superliners pulled by electrics.
i live In MT joy and I hear them all day long.
Excellent video! I really enjoyed the long-distance shots.
Great Video Eric! I wish we could see more of these superliners out here in the east!
6:58 that is Amtrak 9649 without a doubt! That tuned K5LA gives me chills
its amazing
Wtf did I just watch, ACS-64 leading superliners!?? WHAT YEAR IS THIS. I THOUGHT I WAS IN 2017
2015
Crossbuck Productions Read the video description.
Scott Roth I think by now, 3 years later, I would’ve gotten the memo.
that is a great video. thanks for sharing it.
Fantastic job!
Fantastic production!
4:02 *jeopardy music plays*
Nicely done!
Im sorry, WHAT? Superliners on the keystone?! my life has been a line.
Wow there is one AEM-7 in keystone corridor
Now none
Frowny13 (Frowny Taboban) O_O okay Sorry about that
Now I know why the catenaries are so much taller than every other overhead wire
You mean the catenary poles yeah as an european I look at those poles and wonder who thought making them so tall would benefit anything
1:39 One of the rarest catch in history
Those Superliners look so weird behind that ACS-64 haha. Still an awesome catch!
1:50 high speed heartland Flyer
Awesome. More please.
1:51 that looks like a reference to the Seattle version of Amtrak empire builder
I see what you mean Adventures of Amtrak Cascades
i live in salunga, they were something to see. and at the 3:39 mark if you look under the bridge youll see tanker cars, that was where i worked. eventually made friends with some of the engineers that went by.
One time for the fun of it, I used my friends MTH Electric AEM-7 to pull my Lionel Superliners in O gauge. I didn't think it would nearly be replicated
I don't think I've ever seen an electirc unit pull Superliner cars pretty cool if I say so myself. Nice catches
I live near mt joy and I hear the trains all day
EPIC move. I was working a train that passed that train around Christiana that day.
Great video.
1:22 Quite rare seeing an ACS-64 pulling Superliners.
Awesome catches man!!
A reason why that train at 4:30 was going so slow?
seeing a acs hauling with superliners is crazy
acs 64 has a power of 6400 kW, is very powerful, has no difficulty in towing Superliners
@@andreastacchietti8882 you do have a point
what an amazing catch!
Spectacular!
Nice catches
At 4:41 it sounds like the polar express theme was about to play lol
Great catch! on 857
OMG at 5:42 that always happens to me I keep thinking its Shave and a haircut..lol
1:51 best part of this video
Great video! How many Amtrak trains run on this line a day. The evening I was there I just missed a train and then waited until dark and no trains.
+LoadsofTrains Check out their schedule online, they are putting a new schedule into effect on October 5. On weekdays, there is about one train an hour in each direction. On weekends, they run only about half as many trains.
Central Penn Rail Productions I tried to but I could not find it. where is a good site to look at something like that?
Superliners are coming from the capital limited in Pittsburgh I’m guessing and are being moved to the Amtrak shops in Deleware.
they were being used for staff lodging in Philadelphia when the Pope visited the US
Can superliners fit on the NEC east of Harrisburg?
Drink in the moment… cuz who knows when the next time an electric will pull Superliners is….
Now thats why superliners in the Keystone and Northeast corridor
Wow It’s very rare to see an ACS-64 pull Superliner cars
Since when did the ACS-64’s pull superliners
I see theirs still one or two grades left on the keystone in Lancaster county, am i correct? Because i've heard the trains in this video blow their horn 4 times.
1:20 superliner
Is the colonial shoe factory still open?
At 7:00, is that a Nathan M5 or a really sick Nathan Airchime K5LA?
Sounds like the K5CA-LS that Coaster (NCTD) cabcar #2304 has. It has a similar chord to a M5, I think. I like it.
It’s Amtrak 9649, and it has a heavily tuned K5LA.
What type of tripod did you use? your videos are so great, especially with high speed trains flying by and not even shaking the camera even a tiny amount
Awesome video, but the question needs to be raised... HOW many freaking ditch light modes do those ACS-64s have!? I've seen the usual alternating, alternating strobe pattern, now i this one the same as a alternating strobe but, with the headlight not strobing on steady! Holy heck.
They have only two settings, on or alternating flashing. The strobing you are seeing has to do with the video camera frame rate being used.
Looooooove your video
Thank you
What's the speed limit here?
It varies between 90-125. I think 100-110 is the average.
Very nice views at the beginning of 6:27
1:53 Never seen a ACS 64 only Pulling Superliners
Great video!
What is the closes station to where this was shot?
+SkyAdventures97 Mt. Joy
if you think about it superliners under wire is normal because it always happens with the capital limited at DC
Amazing video! What video editing software do you use? I have a camcorder that takes 1080 60p but when I use iMovie it degrades the quality.
+acelaboy123 Sony Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 13. 60p templates are recognized in this program.
Thanks!
i have a question CentralPenn.
Do you have plans to continue the NS Harrisburg Line series?
yes
The Superliners actually go pretty fast in along here.
Of the superliners went to Philadelphia how did they fit under the trestle at Whitford
These Amtrak trains almost always have Superliners:
Sunset Limited
Southwest Chief
California Zephyr
Empire Builder
Coast Starlight
Auto Train
Pere Marquette
There are other trains that can rarely run with superliners: Amtrak's Wolverine, Carl Sandburg and Saluki have also done this.
Cpr1234 the Pacific Surfliner and San Joaquin services in California run with Bilevels but sometimes run with Superliners if they are low on cars
Not to mention, many of the Superliners in CDTX service are refurbished units which were involved in wrecks, and of those, some are painted in either of the two CDTX schemes.
And the San Joaquins also uses single-level cars which used to serve New Jersey Transit, derived from the Silverliner 1 EMUs along with either Horizon or (less frequently) Amfleet cafe cars.
Now the San Joaquins is getting Siemens Venture cars
What's the top speed on the Keystone Corridor?
+Ryan Shipp 125 MPH on straight track.
Let me guess 50 - 70 on a curve
Love the electric train tho 😍
It just that tunnel clearences prevent the superliners from utilizing on the Northeast corridor
I thought Superliners were too tall to fit safely under the wires. Can Superliners safely get through the Hudson River tunnels?
I think the tunnels in and out of New York are to small for them but I’m not sure
They don't fit in the tunnels on either side, or in the station. Not a lot of places they fit on the actual corridor. Which is why they don't run them there.
Amtrak Guy 1: I got a really stupid and hilarious idea, wanna roll with it?
Amtrak Guy 2: Yeah sure lol
Their idea: 1:48
What is the linespeed there?
Le Nouveauvillageois i think its 70
70-110 mph but most trains average around 80mph
That's awesome!!! The Superliners were only used for the Pope, but why can't Amtrak use them on the KSC and the NEC more often?
+Owen Concorde I think it would be neat if they added a train that ran the entire length up-and-down the east coast with Superliners, but for now they are reserved for long-distance trains elsewhere. It seems like they meet all of the catenary clearances but there may be issues with them hitting sags. I'm not sure.
+Central Penn Rail Productions The stations catenary is too low. Coming out of Philadelphia they hit the wire. Lucky it was off for the move and a diesel pushed them past the clearance point
They did that coming into Harrisburg too.
+Owen Concorde they are not certified for the NEC that's why they were brought via the Keystone. Reason is one there are height issues at stations and certain points on that line and they can't fit in the NY tunnels or the Boston tunnel. They are also made for low level platforms and not high level so it wouldn't make sense to run them if you can't use all the stations that are high level. That might work at a few stations on the Keystone like Exton and Paoli but not all. I filmed them coming through Paoli eastbound and let me tell you there wasn't much clearance between the wires and cars going under that bridge but they were sick to see.
+EMDSD14R Thanks and I didn't know that. I wonder if Amtrak wants special bilevels for the NEC, I mean cars built like their European counterparts in Germany, Austria, and the Netherlands. They might fit better than the superliners.
there goes my route in Train Simulator 2017 i built i cant wait to release
Amtrak should totally use superliners under catenary. That's great!
They don't fit in most places. It's not possible.
@@FFred-us9tw they need to electrify more tracks and have the freight lines do the same
@@AmericansAlwaysFree it’s not economical in many places. Especially for freight. In many areas clearances are already barely enough for Auto Racks and Double stacks. If you want to run overhead wire as well it wouldn’t be possible without drastic clearance problems. Their are spots on the corridor for example where the wire is so low their is only a foot of room between the wire and the roof of a standard coach. It’s not a universal height.
Ngl the ACS-64 looks good when pulling Superliners.
Northeast corridor can move intermodal but only TOFC or single stacks NS used to run an hotshot with alot of mail and UPS trailers I believe superliners double stack and autoracks will not clear wires and tunnels
Why doesn't the Pennsylvanian use a dual mode locomotive when half the route is electrified ? Would help improve speed and save on fuel.
amtrak ACS-64 pulling superliners 1:52
Nice!
If you ask me I think they should make the capital limited like the lakeshore limited and have it split at Pitsburg like the lakeshore does at Albany and have half go to DC and the other Half Philly
It would add a 2nd train on the route between Pitsburg and Harrisburg bosting service and over time could promote for superliners to head towards the NEC and the Northeast And Possibly A West Coast To Northeast Train Direct
That train at 1:13 was going backwards
I thought there was clearamce issues with Superliners
There is, but only at main stations where the wires hang low. Power had to be turned off when they moved these out of Philly and also when they came into Harrisburg, because the cars came in contact with low-hanging arcs.
Acs 64: Yay I can haul superpowers :3
Liner
The delayed train sounded like it had developed a severe flat spot
Show me the footage
@@pdrumz534 huh?
NO WAY!!! how can there be super liners on the NEC
This is the Keystone Line not the NEC
ACS-64~
I find it weird that it's driving backwards
Kid Jae it’s not reversing. The cab car at the rear has controls to run the locomotive from the other end. It’s used when turning a train around is impossible or inefficient.
Northeast Rail Productions yeah I figured that out a long time ago..
Kid Jae oh, just saying
I just never seen that before. Here in Florida, we have the silver stars with Auto train
So I guess the only place Superliners cannot fit is Penn Station
(even Sunnyside Yard is open-air 😂)
Edit: Was referring to New York Penn. I've since learned that Baltimore Penn also has the same clearance issues
That’s different🤔
You mean the superliners can fit the under the wires
@@pdrumz534 yes
The superliners were not part of an equipment move, when the Pope visited Philadelphia they had a special train go to Philly so people could see him.
Gotta go speeds
THAT THUMBNAIL 💀💀💀💀
COOL ac64
It is unusual to see electric locootives in US, thhink that is not simple to understand, as USA are advanced in technology and it could be quite simple to place a bit more catenaries, I think
It's only unusual if you don't live in the North East. Electric locomotives have been running for decades in the Northeast. Electrics aren't uncommon in the US. It's just the Northeast is the best place because of the proximity of all the major cities.
The Pennsylvania Railroad first electrified what is now the Keystone Corridor between Philadelphia and Paoli, PA in 1915, followed by what is now SEPTA's Chestnut Hill West Line in 1919, and both the Philadelphia-Wilmington (Delaware) section of the NEC and the West Chester Line in 1922. The catenary seen here was installed under Franklin Roosevelt's WPA program in the 1930's electrifying the Keystone Corridor from Harrisburg and Philadelphia, and the NEC from D.C. to NYC.