Salt & Tar: Episode 55-Sampson Post and Battery Bank
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- Our final weeks of water life are upon us. Do not fret we are super excited about our haul out. In this episode we take on the sampson post and installing our house battery bank. The sampson post is our last big construction project while at Judy's dock. It went smoothly. We took our time while also tackling the battery box in the middle. The sampson post is a crucial part of our anchoring set up. We won't use it all the time but when we need it it will be there and be strong. We've gone with 4 6volts paired in series to make 2 12volts then paralleled to double our amp hours. So far the best battery set up we've experienced is with 6 volt batteries. We may add another pair of 6volts down the road but for now we're really happy with our capacity for power. Next episode we finish up a few other system installs and then take the dinghy out for a little day on the river! The preparations are near complete. Haul outs have become such a normal part of life for Garrett and I that we can truly be excited and not fearful. It's the best place to get a LOT of boat work done. We can't wait to set up our work space and get these last big things done! Then we can look forward to our next stage with the boat, anchoring ever closer to the open ocean :)
Thanks for watching everyone!
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Love the batteries... new and strong. Young batteries are so pleasing to see getting hooked up and turned on.
Men who build stuff with their hands and brawn and brains are so awesome. #mancrush Saturday!
That solar oven looks amazing! Great work on the ⛵
Great video. I’m so excited to see the dinghy unwrap! What you two have done is inspirational and pretty badass.
Haha we've taken it out so many times now! It's a game changer around 3/4 o'clock when it's getting close to 90°f
Like the rest of your (at home ) crew I've been waiting for this video to arrive . Garretts carpentry skills keep getting better and better . Ruth the videos are the best , the music and commentary keep me wanting more and more . It's been truly amazing watching the boat come together , like any complicated project there will be plenty of challenges with you two working together you will no doubt succeed . One step at a time ...cheers
Thanks Greg :)
enjoy these videos immensely love your can do attitude to how you approach everything in this build ,plus one of the best looking hardest working woman on u-tube , keep them coming can't wait to see this boat sailing.
You guys are awesome... I hope to start building my own boat this fall. Thanks for all the inspiration guys!
So glad to see another episode pop up in my feed, and to see it is a longer format just made it even better! The two of you are doing a tremendous job on your ship. Cannot wait until we see an episode where you start sailing away!
Getting closer and closer, fabulous job you are both doing there.
After 3 years sailing in Mexico on our Westsail 32 (taking a year off this year) I found I want to put a stainless steel rod thru the samson post (permanent) to help keep lines on. Also I would be concerned with the tight fit of the battery box. I have 6 AGMs (540 amps) on the boat and the will swell and contract a bit. I would hate to see a case crack on you. You need more air flow in the box to allow for a faster heat dissipation. The batteries can get hot when the solar is cranking out the amps. Don't skip on the charger and solar controller. They will make a difference. We are 100% solar on SV Nellie Jo and only use a portable inverter when we need it. We stay out for a least a month at a time so we depend on a great solar setup. We have 580 amps of solar to charge our batteries. It's rare when the sun cant keep up.
Have you thought of a water maker? We built our own and we outperform most boats store bought units. We make about 40 gallons an hour. We do use a Honda 2000 generator to run it but that is all we use it for except to run major power tools if needed. This last March and April we made over 900 gallons of water while at anchor. We gave most of it away to other cruisers. The generator does not use a lot of fuel and can take a beating. Mine got completely submerged 3 years ago and just keeps on going.
We are like you guys we want to be self sufficient when we sail.
Great videos and we hope to see you out there!
As has become your usual, your attention to detail is impressive!!, I thoroughly enjoy watching your progress and look forward to your next update. Stay well.
William Ellis couldn’t have said it better my self👍
What I like best about what you kids are doing is that your own way and not the way everybody else thinks you should do it it’s your home not theirs I look forward to when you guys set sail
So just up to this episode and I have to say this is my favorite for far. The bikini painting was awesome, but by far was the flatulent sampson post being lowered into place. I can't stop laughing.
Looks real nice....oh the boat too...
I was laughing right along with Dale....just couldn't help myself. It is looking so very very good.
Thanks guys great video as always 👍 love the samson post and the noise on the final fit. Hope the battery box works out ok, looked tight, but hard to tell from a video. All the best from 🏴⛵👏
Bravo, vous donnez à beaucoup une leçon de courage , de persévérance et de professionnalisme. Merci, je vous souhaite de vivre de merveilleux moments à quai et surtout à bord. Phil.
That is starting to look like a real boat . All the heavy work and dragging has been carried out with safety shoes from the flip-flop brand !!! Good job Salt & tar , i love it !!!
What a fantastic journey you two young people are on. I envy you the times that lie ahead.
Thank you for sharing this build experience. I hope to be around to follow you around the world.
When I was 8 I made my first boat: a canoe made of raw planks caulked with tar gunk and jute cloth. My ass got pitch black while the vessel(?) slowly sank 5 feet from the ramp. At 16 I started logging timber. But as a wild novice I was, I soon dropped a big log on my right foot, which had undoubtedly - hadn't it been for my steel caped toes - ended my pro career. So when I see the quality of the workmanship in hull and battery case construction as well as the steadfast attempts to hinder bodily damage I cannot avoid these childhood flashbacks watching Salt'n'Tar videos. Hmmmm, why?
Was going to save this to watch during lunch tomorrow. Yeah right! Man that was the fastest 31 minutes ever! Great progress! She’s looking great! And so is the boat. 😬
Dwayne Koblitz my thoughts exactly
I so much totally agree. This was the quickest 31 minuters of my life.
Sampson post goes in and little miss Muffet shows some skin! Now waiting for the Main Mast to go in. Garret has done some fine lines on Miss Daisy :)!!!
Both the Samson post and battery box look solid and well made. Nice job.
Something I learned many years ago, after connecting the cables to the battery terminals dab just a little Vaseline petroleum jelly to prevent corrosion. I apply it to all my vehicle battery terminals.
I used to do the very thing of course it's maintenance and something you have to keep in practice because nothing last as long as you think .
I don't use Vaseline anymore there's actually an electrical Lube used when you're using aluminum wiring or aluminum with anything it's inexpensive get it at any hardware store in the electrical department you don't have to use it on just aluminum connections to other metals you can use them on anything and it will last and hold up much longer than the Vaseline I've been using that religiously for quite a few years now and I have noticed it works better and last longer the whole life of the battery and probably longer I've never had Vaseline do that .
I went and found what I have it's called ideal I know I got it at Lowe's or Home Depot .
Noalox
anti-oxidant joint compound
please light loving gratitude
HHBpHhelps
I use dielectric grease.
@@56Spookdog yeah same thing as the joint compound it's all labeling of the suppliers and producers . Dielectric grease is what I was asking for when I was given this same thing . No matter what name it's given I do suggest it no matter what brand you use I do suggested over anything else .
Y'all inspired me to take a trip up the Napa River over 4th of July weekend. Beautiful Sail nearly all the way there on a flood tide. Even got to see the Famous Main mast sitting in the yard. Thanks guys!!!
Beautiful life, beautiful wife, and man check out the lines on that boat! Never miss a video here in Maryland! Keep up the good work and hope to see you out there soon!
You lucky sailor! Awesome work guys, this has become a new favorite series!
Glad your capturing more of the work. Great video.
Heat is a batteries worst enemy... I would leave sides open a bit... possibly a minimum of 1/4" space blocks between them as well. Just a thought.
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The audio is fine. I have no complaints... great video!!
Sounds more like a tuba post to me!
So good to see you guys again! your doing an amazing job so far well done both of you. Beautiful work. sending hugs from Down Under xxxx
Great work so far. Little concerned about battery heat dissipation tho under load or charging..........Mike
But he put in "vent holes" :)
Unless Garret decides to weld with the batteries there isn't a lot of load,M well not for longer than starting, batteries only get hot when they pass current, so it's unlikely that they will ever get warmer than ambient. We used to have a 1000ah battery at 110v at work, testing inverters. It never got so much as warm even on full charge.
AGM batteries can cook-off, especially in the tropics , they need more air space between batteries.
Good episode and no broken toes, a bonus!
Some excellent progress right there,going forward in leaps and bounds👍
Someone is an over thinker just like me,but it has to be done properly,right?
It's going to be great to see some masts up,and the rigging,plus that bow sprit,all ten feet of it.
All the best😊
Awesome progress.
Looks darned hot to be working in. Hats off to you for labouring on.
Hope that battery box does't swell much. I always think it is best to make the box slightly bigger then pack out the space, this will also help air circulation.
Good point the battery swells and contracts also with the heating temperature and most likely will do it with the Box the tight fit in the less vibration the longer the batteries will last and that's the goal for the outcome but I'm with you I would have built the Box bigger but big enough to put a piece of rubber all the way around help with the expansion and contraction and more of the vibration helping the batteries last longer any Farm and Ranch store you can buy the big trailer pads good half inch thick rubber make nice pads for batteries . great protection against conductive corrosion too .
I will use wood usually a scrap piece of plywood between all my batteries and any metal surface but a good thick rubber pad is my first choice . wood still has conductive properties but will still help the battery with protection of the conductive properties of metals . I have replaced or lined many metal battery boxes with wood but also meny ideally with rubber .
if you're really into maintenance and love doing the sort of thing you can make a battery lasts forever by just cleaning it . Feeling it with distilled vinegar letting it sit for around an hour never longer then three or four . I will add a couple of pinches of baking soda to each cylinder of the battery I will let it sit a minimum of 8 hours to overnight not much more than 12 hours ideally drain fill it with distilled water drain it and repeat one more time to flush it, a lot will use distilled water I always buy battery acid and replace it . which I admit I'm not one that does it as regularly as I should . an old friend passed and gone now had 4- 6 vole deep cells just like those he kept alive for over 50 years on a little solar system in his little A-frame cabin . Before solar a home made windmill with an alternator . I had four that I have used in boats & campers . I haven't been good at keeping up with the yearly cleaning maintenance like he did I only have one good one, three I just didn't think about it they froze and to replace them well over double the price now then when I bought them . solar has always been a little hard for me to get on board with because in the beginning very much creating the same Hazard even worse than batteries creating a hazardous waste problem because they're hazardous material have to be handled properly . too many people I talked with that had installed them already filled with regret for the expense wouldn't pay itself back until they were well Dead and Gone .
I have learned that the panels are made much more friendly and with much less hazardous materials now I've had a few quotes cuz I still believe it's a good thing it's nice to see the prices has stayed pretty evenly it's about the same expense now as it was when it first came out to have it installed . but it's still hey system that needs maintenance and most likely it's going to take eons for the expense to even pay you back .
I keep trying to put an end to this but somehow I feel I could write a book .))
HHBpHhelps
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That’s some reply Henry :)
I’m in the aviation industry and have seen batteries swell like balloons, especially on turbine aircraft. On GA aircraft batteries usually sit in an aluminum box or tray, if on a tray they are clamped but at least air can pass over them. We also paint the trays/boxes with acid resistant paint which helps if they vent on board or there is a spillage.
I’ll stop there otherwise it will look like we are having competition ;)
@@BettySwollocks13 no competition felt here very meaningful conversation wonderful outlet RUclips is !
So many variables unseen and seen very worth seeing and talking about knowledge is growth and growth in the Continuum of life is what love and life are all about the beautiful magic of existence . I so much want to choose to experience it all !!!!!!!!9
Peace light loving gratitude !!!!!!!!9
HHBpHhelps
@@BettySwollocks13 and you actually bring so much more to thought with pressures in aircraft and submarines .
I've seen battery swell when they freeze to where they burst is the swelling way up in the air do more to pressure and temperature condensation then erosion or conductivity ? Are all part of one another reaction to the other so much unseen so much to know and see .
HHBpHhelps
@@henryphelps3590 Lived off grid for 20 years with big lead acid scrubber batteries (160lbs a piece). They have AGM batteries. The close contact would be an issue for me with lead acid because the excess heat would mean re-watering the batteries (even with recycling caps) more often. Batteries that move actually require less maintenance and less of a need for equalization because stationary batteries dont shake the plates clean. Of course excessive movement can lead to an internal short in lead acids but not an issue with AGM's.
They made the right decision, and space is likely at a premium so opting for a battery that can be densely packed is smart (too bad they couldnt afford LiOn.
Wow! Can really feel the progress speeding up. Can't wait to see you underway.
I finally caught up! I found you last week and now I have to wait for the next episode.
i don't watch the whole video anymore.....i just tune in to catch the giggle (about 43 seconds in on this episode.) replay 3 or 4 times and i have a smile on my face the rest of the day.
i kid, i kid.....i watch the whole thing for sure but the first paragraph i wrote here is mostly true. :)
there's that giggle again at 6:03 in.
that was funny!
WOW you two are super awesome the way you togeather , i cant wait for the
next instalment . love ya's heaps oxoxoxo
Another grand video guys!! She’s really coming together!!
Can't wait to see the next episode, great work. So excited for you. You're almost done. Keep going the reward is just around the corner.
Well done. Most informative. Best wishes as you go forth to completion. Keep up the GREAT work and partnership between you two. Fair winds.
My very first job as a boatbuilder back in 1986 was fitting a (much smaller) Sampson post into a Dickerson 37'. I was a little puzzled how to fit the bottom of the post to the multiple curves of the stem. I asked one of the grey haired fellows in the shop how and he said " just get her in there..."
Just Love what you Guy's are doing i always look for a new Vlog from your Channel. As a safety on the Battery's i would have a Quick release on the Positive terminal just in case you need to disconnect fast. You might have to upgrade your wire because of the mount of panels you are going to install but what you have for now should work fine but please check what solar panels you might be using to see what is recommended . And again thank you for a great Vlog from 1 to 55 now.
These videos have inspired me to never build or own a boat. Seriously, I thank you!
great love these videos watched from the start,, that fellow you,ve got knows his stuff,,,all the best.
Love the bulwarks!
I think you have one guy smiling from heaven. His name is Colin Archer. I guess he loves to see you three (dog) :-) doing what you are doing and how you are doing it. Really EPIC! ILYG
Parabéns, voces são o símbolo da força e persistência.
The boat is really looking good. Great job!!
It's looking good, well done!!!
Nice work, Love seeing it all come together!
Garrett, you got away with it this time but don't forget that ALL batteries based on acid produce Hydrogen gas and I think it's unwise to put a naked flame so close! I had a large battery explode, ignited by terminal sparks and spread acid all over the engine room. Empty at the time fortunately! Your journey is an inspiration! I enjoy your progress a lot! Thanks, Roger
It wasn't a confined space and the batteries are totally sealed. Your point is moot. If it was a traditional lead acid battery with the caps off and under charge then hydrogen would be an issue.
geraldtonjjeeper The Batteries are AGM’s and as such are totally sealed, you can mount a AGM upside down with no problem and thus making you concerns a non issue.
@@gullreefclub OK!
4:21 GoSun cooker look like a really cool appliance 🤙 Cheers, --> #SeattleRingHunter
Great video! One of your best.
Great progress! It’s really coming together nicely
I hate people who give me advice after I decide on a course of action , but here goes think about 2 by sixes run between the deck beams notched out for the samson post ,glue and screw to deck and beams this locks everything together , build the same way you would a set of mast partners except not 8 squared .
boat looks amazing...great job with post and battery install!! so excited for you! hope napa is being good to you :)
WOW, que cosa más rica. Me quedo con esa pintora, mmmh!
You two are amazing
Hugs from Canada
Looking good you guys are getting there now
Great video thank you! I always make it a habit to not work with metal tools directly over a battery whenever possible. If you drop a tool and it shorts out you can't even reach down to pull it away and everything turns into a ball of sparks and molten plastic! I have a small wrench I use around the batteries often and I have covered enough of the handle with electrical tape so that no matter how it fell on the batterys it could not reach from one terminal to another.
It's coming along nicely.
Wow!
Well done...impressive courage!
Cheers
Yes... I was childish and laughed at the noises it made when it was lowered in... Great video! Getting sooo close.
I was thinking that little segment was for the 12 yr olds in all of us.
wow! so much done recently! :D
its just all seems to be coming together now. Love it!
Good job! Making progress.
Word of caution... these LifeLine AGM WILL get hot at some point, and being this close to each other will not be able to dissipate their heat to the surrounding air, but only into each other... this will significantly increase the risk of cell damage and / or a meltdown / fire!
It could be better if there's room around the batteries where they have space to breath, and as Henry Phelps pointed out, where they can swell.
Dudes! the sound of that post going in was lake momma whale giving birth!
Aren't you worried that the battery compartments might be a little tight. I'm not sure, but I think batteries shrink and swell with change in conditions and charge. Just a thought.. If they are too tight, and you get any swelling, the box may have to be disassembled to remove a battery..
Looking great!
Take this from a retired carpenter or not, but you might want to think about protecting your foot and toes when handling big lumber. It will only take one time of a 6x, or 4x, falling on your toes to force you to not do it again with bare feet. There are many many nerve endings in your feet, along with a multitude of tendons, ligaments and cartilege, and when and if that time comes when a big timber falls on them, your gonna know it, not just for the moment but for weeks to come.
This one's for Ruth. As I've been watching each video I couldn't help but think "I've seen Ruth somewhere before".
Now I know where. I have a collection of music videos from RUclips, all nicely arranged in alphabetical order. I get to "P" and there she is. Petula Clark. And coincidentally she sings a song called "Sailor", a beautiful tune. But unlike Ruth and Garrett who sail together on their own boat, the singer in "Sailor" is a land lubber woman who appeals to her sailor lover to come home. Like I say it's a beautiful song, sung by a famous singer who reminds me of Ruth.
Have a nice day and thanks for the vids.
saludos desde Chile. 🇨🇱🇨🇱 lindo el proyecto abrazos .... recien hoy vi varios de sus capítulos del proyecto y está emocionante ...
That's nice
Hi...great work and love to watch it all come together. I've repaired boats for a zillion years now and sailed a fair number of miles. You must be getting sick of comments. I do agree with what some people are saying about the battery box. It might be a bit tight when the dang things swell. My though is about that goliath of a sampson post. My concern is with sailing. That much weight forward will really slow the boat down at sea through hobby horsing. On my sail across the Pacific I had to bring 325 feet of chain because of the deep anchorages and reefs. It really slowed us down and it got critical a few times. Too much weight forward. If I had to do it again (and I am...I'm going with far less chain. Your mast which is keel stepped is perfect tie off point.
invest in some dielectric grease to prevent corrosion on terminals
Batteries need air space to cool! If they swell.....you'll never get them out!!!!
I'd give consideration to twin stern posts to attach a bridle for a sea anchor to. Because of my constant urge to complicate things I probably would have tried to mortise the bow post.
Good job, impressive!
Very therapeutic for an old guy living in a crazy new world ...time to bust open the bank me thinks. Patron is safe right ? PS when I was your age I built a log home in the Yukon with no previous experience....lived there for 22 years. $100 /year property taxes....lol. Installed solar myself also in '88.
Wonder Full
As always, it is a pleasure to be notified of your postings! I love the sturdiness you put into all the details of the build, and I can relate to the feeling of building a strong unit through all the components. Since all the pressure on the sampson-post will be inwards - do you consider fitting an 8x3 or 4-inch block under the deck, between the post and the next deck-beam aft?
Cheering on 'ya! :-)
Just to clarify: I was assuming that the bowsprit will push onto the sampson-post..
hi boat is looking good so keep up with the good work .
Looking Good/ Des.
AAAaaaaahhhh!.......FINALLY ANOTHER VIDEO!!!.......we are addicted ya know....
Demure, lugs batteries, Wow, my kind of woman!
beautiful couple
I love watching your videos, ya'll are such a cute couple!
every time you lift that beam i cringe with the thought of you getting a massive splinter uggggggg , great job and love this build , you should have used No-Ox grease on all those electrical connections and crimps
please, slow it down, it's such a pleasure to watch those last big bits of woodwork! :)
You might want to rethink that battery box. Your batteries are going to overheat big time!
Batteries in parallel, if one goes bad, it will drain the others.
I would do anything to have a life like you guys!!!
I made that remark to a young man who was outfitting a Falmouth 22. He shut me up by replying that if I really wanted a boat like that all I had to do was use my savings and pull some equity from home. Easy. He said quit whining. Of course he was right. I was choosing my life. I just was dreaming of having my cake and eating it to. Lots of us could have the boat if we made it a priority. ah, but getting the girl? That's a harder trick.
Joe Oden A girl like Ruth is more what I'm talking about. People like her are a rare breed. Garrett is one lucky SOB. I'm not trying to hit on his wife or anything, I'm just speaking more generally.
I loved the "Oi, did you film that! :-)
WOW, the Battery Bank... perfect fit box, but have you read the comments?
First, You need to deal with heat in the battery bank. Tesla learned this early in his vehicle development.
Then of course, tin all your connections Or in other words, soldier them.
And in a marine environment I am sure you should use dielectric grease to prevent corrosion.
You may want to rethink your battery mounting system.
I wonder why you didn't oil the post before final installation. Plus, I believe you'll want to relieve the corners below deck like you did on the stem. Does that windlass need overhaul? Surely it needs paint. I reckon off the dock and up in the yard would be the best place for that.
As for your drawings of the sprit hinge, a caution is being very clear on dimensions when taking it to Rolf. One craftsman to another, even if on the same page, each have their own methods. So one is talking of inside dimension and the other is thinking outside dimension. I've experienced that before, nothing that can't be fixed but can be frustrating. This video is exciting for it shows the end is nigh. I'm already looking forward to the next episode.
Man, you have a lot to do some how wish you luck.
Essa menina é muito forte.