Garganacl Eiscue Snow Team made them SALTY on Pokémon Showdown

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  • Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
  • I was testing this snow team I made around an eiscue because I found a shiny one in-game and decided to build around a supportive eiscue for fun, paired with garganacl's salt cure and more memes on the Series 1 VGC 2023 ladder on Pokémon Showdown. I ran into this crybaby while testing who got pretty salty so I figured I had to make a vid around this team,so hopefully you all enjoyed, like and subscribe if you haven't already
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    Gargnacl and Eiscue by / madamastyx_
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    Music List:
    0:00 - Pokemon Scarlet and Violet - Cassiopeia Battle Theme
    2:40 - Fire Emblem Engage - Bloom in the Breeze
    4:25 - Yu-Gi-Oh Sound Duel 1 - Morning in Heartland City
    5:28 - Fire Emblem 3 Houses - The Forgotten
    #vgc2023 #pokemonscarletandviolet #pokemonshowdown

Комментарии • 389

  • @aradskull1231
    @aradskull1231 Год назад +1582

    Can't believe Weedle's out here relying on surprise and deceit

    • @malemailmanman
      @malemailmanman Год назад +64

      It's the perquisite for cringe and unskillful

    • @Meteorite_Shower
      @Meteorite_Shower Год назад +320

      "How am I supposed to win if I don't know _exactly_ what you're planning?!"

    • @dylansturdivant5404
      @dylansturdivant5404 Год назад +72

      That's what my hookups say when they message me before even looking at my profile

    • @ThirdEyeAngel
      @ThirdEyeAngel Год назад +15

      I can’t believe you’ve done this

    • @-_XD
      @-_XD Год назад +43

      HOW DARE YOU OUTSMART ME ?!?!?!?!

  • @leonardomiceli8843
    @leonardomiceli8843 Год назад +478

    I lost it when you asked "What surprised you? Soak Eiscue?" Hahaha

    • @theleoita90
      @theleoita90 Год назад +8

      Same xD

    • @YouW00t
      @YouW00t Год назад +30

      In fairness, I was expecting Belly Drum but that was probably too easy/makes too much sense.

  • @AngryLittleAmericans
    @AngryLittleAmericans Год назад +813

    Imagine getting mad in a Pokemon battle because you didn't expect someone's strategy

    • @thermae5419
      @thermae5419 Год назад +92

      Almost like thats how pokemon works, being able to build a team to your liking

    • @Ginormous76
      @Ginormous76 Год назад +68

      Ok, I’m glad I’m not crazy. My thinking is if you want to know your opponent’s move sets, play single player and use a walkthrough.

    • @Y-all-mofos-need-Talos
      @Y-all-mofos-need-Talos Год назад +55

      Logic: If your strategy is unexpected than it's bad

    • @thermae5419
      @thermae5419 Год назад +49

      @@Ginormous76 the game is built around that principle, simply a salty player looking for braindead excuses as to why they lost. It's equivalent to "you only beat me in poker because I didn't know your hand." Absolute coping because their braindead strat lost to something unique.

    • @Makocat
      @Makocat Год назад +24

      @@Ginormous76 that's typical smogon players for ya

  • @blind2762
    @blind2762 Год назад +317

    3:30 the way they used each other's stab moves 😭

    • @masch7000
      @masch7000 Год назад +25

      Excatly😂 That was peculiar

    • @carbon_lifeforme
      @carbon_lifeforme Год назад +44

      we love gay rights

    • @KPepper.
      @KPepper. Год назад +15

      @@carbon_lifeforme major basic empathy W

  • @eddy796
    @eddy796 Год назад +168

    The entrainment Cetitan absolutely sucker punched me i wasn’t expecting that

    • @amberhernandez
      @amberhernandez Год назад +44

      Well, you shouldn't have clicked an attacking move then!

    • @HazeEmry
      @HazeEmry Год назад +16

      @@amberhernandez goddammit

  • @greenlion1089
    @greenlion1089 Год назад +157

    "yOu'Re TaCtIcS uSe SuRpRiSe AnD dEcEiT." My apologies that our duel was not an honorable one, fair maiden. I tip my fedora to you.

  • @thoughtfulfreespace
    @thoughtfulfreespace Год назад +116

    The ice buff this gen is definitely cool to help make stuff like this viable. Very fun strategy as always.

    • @ayembic7933
      @ayembic7933 Год назад +4

      Now we just need sand rush sweepers back :'(

    • @MusicoftheDamned
      @MusicoftheDamned Год назад +11

      @@ayembic7933 Yeah, it basically feels like Sand died to buff every other weather since only Lycanroc is left and since Gargancl couldn't care much less about Sandstorm.

    • @ayembic7933
      @ayembic7933 Год назад +7

      @@MusicoftheDamned is excadrill in the game yet? If not, there is hope. Sun feels mid again after chi yu ban as well to me

  • @benjaminknight8041
    @benjaminknight8041 Год назад +97

    Very surprised how technical the info on EVs was, and on the life orb HP number, that's straight up something I'd have never realized on my own

    • @jotarokujo3603
      @jotarokujo3603 Год назад +32

      There's more to the HP stat then just pumping points into it.
      Odd numbers are always better for rounding this will apply to all damage over time.
      It will also let berries active at half hp after using belly drum.
      Also if the Pokemon has an HP stat of at least 100 you can have a total over 401 to ensure Blissey/Chansey don't break your sub with seismic toss. This only applies in Smogon singles when playing at level 100.
      There's a few more things but that's probably a big enough info dump lol.
      Good luck with your games :)

    • @MusicoftheDamned
      @MusicoftheDamned Год назад +17

      To add to what was said above me a bit, generally the *only* time you actually want an even HP stat--at least in Singles--if you're going to bother touching HP at all is if you're using a (Sitrus) Berry mon. This is especially true with the few Belly Drum mons that exist, especially Slurpuff since not activating Unburden means your poor little cupcake dog probably gets exploded the next turn.
      Otherwise you generally want odd HP whenever possible as already said since that rounds down hazard damage too, which is still important for every non-Magic Guard mon even with Heavy-Duty Boots existing since Knock Off unfortunately still exists in its overbuffed form. (Except for Weavile and for Bisharp, ha.)

    • @kirbybie
      @kirbybie Год назад

      this is great info i didn’t know ! is there a site or vid where i can find more info like this ?

    • @lighthouse6543
      @lighthouse6543 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@jotarokujo3603Just wanted to say your comment helped me learn something new ❤

  • @Soulvior
    @Soulvior Год назад +24

    Using the sound clip of “Fire” “Water”from Avatar for the Tera types had me dying lmao 💀 Wasn’t expecting that.

  • @minaly22
    @minaly22 Год назад +49

    That Soak Salt cure was lovely 🤣🤣

  • @Duraludon884
    @Duraludon884 Год назад +71

    The third battle was the funniest thing I've seen in a while! Both the editing and the predictions were so good

    • @shasan2393
      @shasan2393 Год назад +4

      21 Savage counting the population bomb hits made me burst put laughing

  • @hooligante
    @hooligante Год назад +109

    Ever since OTS came out people blame their losses on that so much on the ladder while sucker punching in front of Farigiraf constantly lol.

    • @frozenfeet4534
      @frozenfeet4534 Год назад

      ots?

    • @SplatDiva_Ant
      @SplatDiva_Ant Год назад +4

      @@frozenfeet4534 Open Team Sheets

    • @gengarzilla1685
      @gengarzilla1685 Год назад +4

      It really has just become an excuse for petty salt.

    • @iansurya2985
      @iansurya2985 Год назад

      Is open team sheet only in this gen ? Or is it already done before ?

    • @lighthouse6543
      @lighthouse6543 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@iansurya2985it's always been, but was newly implemented on showdown

  • @gabeygaymes8510
    @gabeygaymes8510 Год назад +54

    This snow team managed to warm my cold dead love for ice type!

  • @lukaskback9710
    @lukaskback9710 Год назад +11

    When weedle is just using regular vanilla Pokémon battle themes you know the ost was hitting

  • @jellyfishjones4741
    @jellyfishjones4741 Год назад +30

    "You rely on surprise and deceit to win... no skill"
    Uh, Sun Tzu would like a word.

  • @zoeygeorge2403
    @zoeygeorge2403 Год назад +25

    I don't really get team sheets for anything besides knowing tera. To me most of the skill of comp comes from anticipating and playing around potential sets. If your opponent revealed Mon 1 was running this set, then Mon 2 is more likely to run that set, etc.

    • @franko1597
      @franko1597 Год назад +12

      It's to prevent scouting in real life tournaments, and smogon has to implement that on showdown because it's an official feature for the official format (VGC).

  • @tylers7988569
    @tylers7988569 Год назад +10

    The way I wish you followed the "Fire... Water..." with Air on the tailwind lmao

  • @cir0plus
    @cir0plus Год назад +31

    Salt Cure is a cool move, and to pair it with Soak is big brain. Not going to win you a lot of matches, but looks fun to use. I want to use a tera ghost Garganacl with Salt Cure and Curse. Probably trash, but that's part of the fun of pokemon(IMO). Great video, very entertaining like always!
    Side note: My friend walked by just as the "my dick fell off!" played lol. Had fun explaining that.

  • @WeedleTwineedle
    @WeedleTwineedle  Год назад +22

    what is your favorite pokemon to use on hail/snow teams?

    • @jchamp00
      @jchamp00 Год назад +5

      Cetitan has become my new favorite but before that was Alolan Ninetales for the weather control and Aura veil

    • @aradskull1231
      @aradskull1231 Год назад +5

      Cryogonal because I have to justify having a tattoo of the lil guy somehow

    • @fimmm_
      @fimmm_ Год назад +1

      glaceon 😍

    • @carlmcleencabales9188
      @carlmcleencabales9188 Год назад +2

      Porygon2

    • @lucashogan1731
      @lucashogan1731 Год назад +1

      Snowncloak glaceon with the evasion sand... too good baby.

  • @FoxMan_FF
    @FoxMan_FF Год назад +11

    I was not aware Cetitan learned Entrainment! I smell some devious Slush Rush strategies that could come from that. 👌

  • @ExoticSilvers
    @ExoticSilvers Год назад +4

    This comp seemed so fun. Loved the abomasnow getting slush rush

  • @mazdanoff
    @mazdanoff Год назад +14

    You say there's a gimmick here and there, but I have a feeling this is the most synergistic team you have built so far.
    Rotom, Garganacl and Meowscarada seem like nice glue, while the rest of the team can just go bonkers.
    I might breed this exact team in-game, so I have anything remotely viable AND fun to use on the ladder.
    Thank you so much for including back the team review.

    • @Materialist39
      @Materialist39 Год назад

      eiscue’s existence / hail itself is the gimmick lol, otherwise, agreed this team seems solid

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 Год назад +1

      I love how hail/snow is so bad simply because only Arctozolt and Cetitan can use it nicely with Alolan Ninetales that Eiscue appearing means the team is a gimmick.

    • @mazdanoff
      @mazdanoff Год назад

      Embrace the penguin or die trying. No inbetween.

  • @Metazoa54321
    @Metazoa54321 Год назад +14

    eiscue is one of my favorite gen 8 pokemon. a lot of people see belly drum and think "oh there it is" but in singles it's actually a lot more interesting with weather ball on sun, having ice and fire coverage that hit gen 8 OU staples surprisingly hard. love to see its support capabilities on display as well, especially with the snow buff

  • @mushymcmushington7176
    @mushymcmushington7176 Год назад +5

    "You rely on surprise and deceit"
    That's like an FPS player complaining that they lost because the enemy used aiming and movement.

    • @thermae5419
      @thermae5419 Год назад +1

      this is the equivalent of "the game doesnt incentivise me to use anything other than the piercer so i wont" from UnderTheMayo's ultrakill review. Complaining about the core mechanics of a game. ou copypastes are sad

    • @cir0plus
      @cir0plus Год назад +2

      "You only won because wall hacks and auto aim were turned off"

  • @gva4741
    @gva4741 Год назад +2

    Finally!! Love your content Weedle❤

  • @Just_an_Ace_on_the_Moon
    @Just_an_Ace_on_the_Moon Год назад

    Awesome video! Haven't played pokemon in few years but that snow team looks sweet!

  • @bigj5401
    @bigj5401 Год назад

    Way to go Queen! I loved the idea behind this team ❤🙌

  • @earlytobedearlytorise
    @earlytobedearlytorise Год назад

    The Abyss music was a nice surprise. Love your videos!

  • @OrcJonnyEscobar
    @OrcJonnyEscobar Год назад

    Please please I need more WeedleTwineedle content babes 😭😭😭I'm resorting to going through all of your old videos omg you are TOO charismatic and entertaining!!

  • @elemangell2981
    @elemangell2981 Год назад +1

    I've been trying to come up with an ice-centered Garganacl team for ages now, and my prayers have been answered in a hilariously unexpected way. I love all the fun synergies and gimmicks you came up with for this team, and I'm especially impressed by how clever those speed EV placements are. Thanks for the fun battles and breakdown! I can't wait to try this team out against my friends!

  • @InternetChromer
    @InternetChromer Год назад +4

    I also found a shiny eiscue and was reminding your cool support eiscue back in gen. 8.
    Sadly it didn´t learn attract anymore but its still a cool suprise mon nontheless.
    Ty for your great inspirations :)

  • @monochromie8107
    @monochromie8107 Год назад

    Your videos always make me smile and laugh. Good editing!

  • @AndrewDavis2112
    @AndrewDavis2112 Год назад +2

    Surprise and deceit! Such skullduggery!

  • @grifleep4916
    @grifleep4916 Год назад +2

    I love these ideas! I definitely forgot Eiscue got Soak. I'm cooking a new team that just ISN'T working. Olive thing has harvest. Basically sunny day and teatime from ally gets starf berry boost. Ideally you'd just keep getting random stats but the only good thing to come out of it. Was figuring out Eject pack pepper thing to get a nuke overheat/leafstorm pivot

  • @peytonashby6789
    @peytonashby6789 Год назад +2

    The Support Cetitan *destroyed* loved this team! thank you for the content.

  • @Master1Morrison
    @Master1Morrison Год назад

    Amazing as always

  • @jyeisan_
    @jyeisan_ Год назад

    love your vids! keep up the good work

  • @VikSun14618
    @VikSun14618 Год назад

    I was totally not expecting the soak!!

  • @tsukipon74
    @tsukipon74 Год назад +7

    I always forgot about Ice Face and didn't know it can restore it in snow. That was really cool tech. Great video!

  • @owenmckinney1846
    @owenmckinney1846 Год назад

    Love you weedle thanks for another great video they always help me when I am feeling sad

  • @xbluemaster1999
    @xbluemaster1999 Год назад +3

    2:09 Imagine this dude going to a Tournament irl and asking the rival "WhAt's YoUr StRat?"

    • @franko1597
      @franko1597 Год назад

      Well, it's an official rule, to prevent scouting irl tournaments xD

    • @gengarzilla1685
      @gengarzilla1685 Год назад +1

      Sounds like it's just being used as an excuse for salt now.

  • @juicemakesoranges
    @juicemakesoranges Год назад +1

    The beauty is in the surprise and deceit, gorgeous snow team weedle I wanted to make cetitan work and you did it beyond my wildest dreams

  • @yana3376
    @yana3376 Год назад +2

    You probably get a lot of team suggestions, but I tried to build a team around Glaceon/Slowking utilising trick room and chilly reception to set up snow. The game plan was then to bring in Stonjourner when Slowking switched out for the power spot boost for big damage blizzards. I had some reasonable success with the team but it definitely had a lot of weaknesses. I'd be curious to see if you could do it better, assuming the team sounded fun to play!
    Either way, keep up the great work, love your content

  • @flamingpickle8846
    @flamingpickle8846 Год назад +1

    Soak-Salt Cure-Freeze Dry is actually genius

  • @chibieris8659
    @chibieris8659 Год назад

    the double scream when two pokemon die at the same time never gets old. love these videos

  • @devoy5611
    @devoy5611 Год назад +1

    The prediction on the hydreigon was sick

  • @Kisarez
    @Kisarez Год назад +10

    Even under Widdle Garganacl is not fun :( return of Eiscue filled my heart with soaky love tho!

  • @doubtfulbeans
    @doubtfulbeans Год назад +1

    YAYYYYY!!!! NEW WEEDLE VIDEO!!!!!

  • @MrStokes
    @MrStokes Год назад +5

    Hope you've been enjoying Fire Emblem btw

  • @PelemusMcSoy
    @PelemusMcSoy Год назад +5

    Salt Cure got me through so many campaign battles I was woefully unprepared for.

    • @hjt091
      @hjt091 Год назад +1

      the fckun iron tread titan in violet that's 20 levels higher than you when you run into it

    • @PelemusMcSoy
      @PelemusMcSoy Год назад

      @@hjt091 Yes, _especially_ that one!

  • @shady_daze
    @shady_daze Год назад +1

    I really hope the "surprise and deceit" audio becomes a channel meme

  • @devynreyesjr2905
    @devynreyesjr2905 Год назад

    Yesss you ATE ❤

  • @lemonadogirl4082
    @lemonadogirl4082 Год назад

    Excellent work as always, Weedle. I've been mucking about with Shed Tail Cyclizar into Belly Drum Azumarill with Indeedee-F support myself. It's anything but consistent, but when the Follow Me lets you drum from behind a sub and you have PsyTerrain to block prio shenanigans, and a steel-resistant Tera for the Gholdengos? Tasty.

  • @Gagneto
    @Gagneto Год назад

    2:50 you lost the opportunity to throw in a "air" on the follow up tailwind lmao, great stuff

  • @PiePie453
    @PiePie453 Год назад

    Oh an explanation, love u Weedle

  • @bert5593
    @bert5593 Год назад

    Cool concept as always, get it it's a pun because cool is cold... Anyway good vid

  • @raeldrake3147
    @raeldrake3147 Год назад

    The video I needed today

  • @lekoe961
    @lekoe961 Год назад +1

    Wow the Salt Cure + Soak combo is really funny

  • @marxistharpy
    @marxistharpy Год назад +1

    Snow team on a snow day? Weedle out here inventing a new theme team

  • @benarmeni3370
    @benarmeni3370 Год назад

    Cool team :3

  • @arigangan
    @arigangan Год назад

    I like the funny lil penguin guy

  • @CrossActoProductions
    @CrossActoProductions Год назад

    so much fun!

  • @kuu8225
    @kuu8225 Год назад

    A friend and I were just talking about potentially making a salt team for competitive. I'm laughing about all the dumb salt jokes and lo and behold, not only does our Themperor upload a new video but it's one with the POKEMON WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT.
    Love you, Weedle, you're an inspiration to us all. 🤗

  • @Misspradaminaj
    @Misspradaminaj Год назад +6

    You should try using a paradox Pokémon with booster energy and then symbiosis Florges holding something like a life orb to increase the damage, it’s underrated but useable!

  • @XmegadriveX1
    @XmegadriveX1 Год назад +4

    I really wanted to like Eiscue when It came out. But I was promissed an Ice Belly Drum Mimikyu and It was kinda meh. I really like what you did here with this team. Noice

  • @GamePadStreaming
    @GamePadStreaming Год назад

    The "fire...water" in match 2 made me nose snort. Who am I anymore 🤣

  • @armandom132
    @armandom132 Год назад

    You were cooking with this one

  • @WillieDangerously
    @WillieDangerously Год назад

    Match #2 literally saw you tera water tera blast into the hydregon slot as they swapped out. I find it very funny that they committed to tera fire later in the match anyway.

  • @samesu766white7
    @samesu766white7 Год назад +2

    "Man I didn't see that coming. You suck" like ??

  • @Materialist39
    @Materialist39 Год назад

    re: that game two team, Grimmsnarl and Arcanine are one of my favorite doubles parings and I always love to see them used

  • @henriquescaglioni9682
    @henriquescaglioni9682 Год назад

    Very cool video

  • @rubemartur8239
    @rubemartur8239 Год назад

    1:15 you used the effect sound of critical hit from Fire emblem, thats nice

  • @the_knees_bees
    @the_knees_bees Год назад

    As soon as salt cure hit I knew soak was coming so good

  • @bigbadmrwolfey
    @bigbadmrwolfey Год назад

    Wow that YGO ZeXal ost wasn’t expecting that 😸

  • @TheBeastJohn
    @TheBeastJohn Год назад +1

    Finally, Weedle using the GOAT, Garganacci

  • @CoralReaper707
    @CoralReaper707 Год назад +1

    Babe, wake up. New Weedletwineedle video dropped!

  • @t43nt
    @t43nt Год назад

    Eiscue is so cute ! Thank you Weedle !

  • @girlrotom
    @girlrotom Год назад

    hi weedle! i’ve loved your vids for such a long time but i haven’t commented until now… honestly you’re my fav competitive pokemon youtuber i do learn a lot from you 😭 id love to see you use a doggie team, considering the large amount of dogs gen 9 gave us!!!

  • @barbie269
    @barbie269 Год назад +1

    the first 5 letters of the first opponents name are the reaction of everyone when they play against gholdengo and garganacl

  • @Sporketto
    @Sporketto Год назад

    that soak + salt cure is so funny

  • @dinosaurtony
    @dinosaurtony Год назад

    That special type of hyper moralistic and eloquent salt is just the best.

  • @mythmakroxymore1670
    @mythmakroxymore1670 Год назад

    2:30 THAT’s WHAT WE’VE BEEN WAITING FOR, THAT’s WHAT IT’SALL ABOUT!

  • @elijahduce5323
    @elijahduce5323 Год назад

    Great video as always! Someday, you should do a Tera Ghost Magearna and an Explosion user. A potential of+3 to Magearna!

  • @dyliera.velazqueznidoknigh6089

    I love you, your content never fails to entertain and uplift my day(s). Thank you.

  • @finalGambitShedinja
    @finalGambitShedinja Год назад

    those two garganacl salt curing each other 🥹😫😤💦

  • @mathieuhabib8900
    @mathieuhabib8900 7 месяцев назад

    heard the old Mario party star gained sound when he used recover, nice

  • @klop552
    @klop552 Год назад

    Another Weedle banger.

  • @pepekong
    @pepekong Год назад

    Gotta love those Mario RPG sound effects.

  • @miguelbonome6801
    @miguelbonome6801 Год назад

    Work divaaa

  • @MrFlame-zk5cy
    @MrFlame-zk5cy Год назад +2

    Damn seems the salt cure didn't work they were definitely still salty af

  • @CdogThePro
    @CdogThePro Год назад

    This team looks awesome

  • @magickarp_lol_3374
    @magickarp_lol_3374 Год назад

    Omg I’m in fucking love with that eiscue set it’s literally what I have been always been dreaming of (I used to use throat spray + round + freeze dry eiscue to counter dracovish)

  • @crimsontanooki7212
    @crimsontanooki7212 Год назад

    I hope to see you on the doubles ladder some day

  • @Bone7essPizza
    @Bone7essPizza Год назад

    Babe wake up!! New Weedle video just dropped

  • @TheVathi20
    @TheVathi20 Год назад

    that tera blast water on hydreigon was insane

  • @Ciqarettan
    @Ciqarettan Год назад +1

    ngl I love how the first guy was complaining about not opening team sheet when he just has the san diego winnning team so people know the open team sheet anyway lol

  • @POKEXJ
    @POKEXJ Год назад

    All hail weedle magic ❤

  • @salvadorsanchez5057
    @salvadorsanchez5057 Год назад +1

    i too love surprise and deceit

  • @duhpandaaa
    @duhpandaaa Год назад

    THE FIRE TERA HYDRAGON READ 🔥🔥

  • @jeffreylo5600
    @jeffreylo5600 Год назад

    The Mario64 penguin sound when eiscue dies gets me everytime