One last excuse for buying this jacket... The Patagonia hoodie is a performance hoodie which means it has vents that make it very cool during anything less than warm weather. This layer is going to be my cooler weather athletic outfit. My goal is to get some hikes in this year to really justify the purchase! Anyways... thanks for watching everyone! Hit that subscribe button if you haven't already! ❤️🙋🏻♂️
You won't be disappointed with arcteryx - I have an atom LEAF LT hoodie and it is incredibly warm and great in light rain when I travel. I never had anything in between my puffy parka for cold snow and my lighter sweatshirts so I always found myself in this awkward middle temp of below 50 degrees or in light snow (CA if it's not obvious hehe) but not cold enough for the parka. I definitely agree about the price per wear idea - if you wear your stuff ALOT then it is worth it. Buying their heavy snow or rain jacket in a place like SoCal where you may use only 2 times a year is money that may be better spent elsewhere
One point I really think you left out, and truly might satisfy the “need” requirement, is that the color (having one brightly colored garment of any kind really) is a safety tool when bike commuting, not to mention bike commuting often calls for weatherproofing of some kind, too. A reflective strip or something reflective makes this even more true. But from being a subscriber for a while, you really seem to have the neutral palette down, with nothing bright neon orange filling that gap.. until now. I know I feel safer biking when I’m wearing my bright colors.
Hey Levi and Leah! I was wondering if you guys could do a video on girlfriend collective. They are an ethical and sustainable women's activewear brand. They pride themselves on being transparent with production line and the materials they are using. Lots of people really like the brand but I can't help but be suspicious about how transparent their brand really is. I have two pieces from them and with all they hype behind the brand I was expecting something great, but I found the products to lack the quality I would expect from a sustainable and transparent brand.
I like the conversation of “need” you have started to create. Because sometime you don’t “need” something but if will bring so much value to your life, that it’s okay to buy a “want”! As long as it’s something that you will use for a long time. There’s a huge emphasis in the sustainable community on only buying what you “need.” But joy is important too!
I bought my first arcteryx jacket the atom lt with my first pay cheque after college, keep in mind at that time it wasn’t heavily marketed as it is now. I spent countless of hours researching on the most versatile item where I can share it all year round. It look me a while but when I broke it down to s few model I went to a store to try it on cause of my oddly shaped body I end up getting the atom in which it was on sale too. Eight years later I’m still wearing the same jacket
Ive had my Atom lt jacket for about 4 years now. It performs as if its brand new, no signs of wear, and has that nice broken in feel to it. I bought mine on sale too at a reasonable price. Well worth it.
@@zFLAVEz Im reaserching for breathable jacket, some time, was looking at first for primaloft gold insulation, but had no luck, then last year I was so close, almost bought the proton AR jacket on sale, but it was to big so that was it, and they discontinuet the jacket, so now its eather this proton lt or nothing. Can it be worn in winter or its too thin for cold weather I mean below 35 F. I want something for more active use on the go, like hill walking in the winter months, and doesnt want to use many layers, ideal would be one base layer this jacket and thats it.
i work right next to the flagship REI store in seattle so i'm always popping into the room they have upstairs where they sell the returns they get. I got this jacket for around 70 bucks because the previous owner thought it was "too warm". looked and felt brand new. I get extra stoked every time i wear it!
I wondered what happens to the returned if you order two competing jackets, or the same jacket in 2 different sizes and take back the one that doesn’t fit. Especially if the tags have been popped
Can you do an update video on birkenstocks, sunski and other sustainable brands and if you still like them from a couple years ago and if you still use them! love your content!
I'm from vancouver and it's nice to see how few people there are outside in your videos during this time. It makes your videos look way more cinematic !!! Keep up the great work buddy!!!
I have an Atom LT jacket and it’s perfect for me. I happened to score it on sale for $153 after lots of waiting and coupons. I use it for thru-hiking, smaller backpacking trips, and daily life! It’s fantastic.
Yeah. I’ve owned mine for about a year and a half, but I’m a pretty serious climber and a backpacker. I wear it literally everyday. So I’d recommend you get one too :) (Get one used. You’ll save a lot)
The proton LT hoody is one of the greatest pieces of outdoor apparel ever made IMO. It has an incredible combination of comfort, wind and rain protection, breathability, warmth, and durability that make it almost miraculously versatile. I love mine and consider it one of the best gear purchases I’ve made. And that hood... sooo comfy.
I purchased the Arc’teryx atom jacket and I can proudly say it was the best clothing purchase I have ever made by miles. It’s a worrier and is so light but also soo warm.
Arcteryx hoods are super comfortable and their brand fits super well. I found Patagonia’s sizing to be awkward and not as flattering. I hike often and choose arcteryx as my main gear source because not only is it technical but super comfortable to wear casually.
One should buy high-quality products because they will last. If you're not a fast fashion idiot buying Patagonia or another high-end outdoor product is an investment in years of great use. BTW, why don't you tighten the strap on your bike helmet so that it won't fly off in an accident? Great video.
Loco Raindrops yeah for sure. I do wear my alpha walking the dogs but that’s because I own it already. I purchased it for alpine climbing. It’s life saving equipment if the weather goes south.
I research stuff for months/years before I buy it too...sometimes by the time I decide to buy it the colour or size I want is gone and then I realize that I really didn't actually need it. I spent a year deliberating between mid-weight puffies and finally decided to get the Patagonia Nano-puff in a super bright blue. I bought it for a backpacking trip because I had no lightweight jackets that packed down small, and I was really worried that I would ever use it again. Honestly though it fits so well and is so comfy and the colour is so good that I've worn it almost every day for a year now. Layered with a thin sweater and shell it got me through -40 in prince george, but it's light enough that on its own it works for the slight summer night chill. The blue is crazy bright enough that I wear it biking around town and feel much more high-vis. It definitely filled a hole in my wardrobe that I didn't even know was there. Sometimes I think that when you're living a life trying to do as little harm to the planet as possible, you don't realize when you're giving up something great. That's the balance I struggle with.
My most expensive jacket is my arcteryx alpha ar. So stupid expensive even on clearance, but it’s the best thing I own. Used it for 3 years now and it still works like day one.
A couple of weeks ago I bought an Atom LT Hoody by Arc'teryx. I've been wanting one for years and finally had enough money to spend on it when it went on sale. I've been wearing it everyday, I love how comfortable it is, and I'm planning on wearing it until it disintegrates!
I have this jacket since one year, I bought it because is high quality, nice looking and really useful/good for multiple activities, breathable and durable. If you buy something very durable you will not buy other things to replace it. You spend a little bit more today, but you save money in the future. The jacket is simply fantastic! I recommend it.
okay I love this video the part where you talk about actual need instead of just buying because “it’s sustainable” is something I needed to be reminded about.
I can’t wait for the thrift stores to open up again, I love going to the ones in Boston (I live in central Massachusetts). I buy Patagonia mostly off Poshmark, they typically have less wear and I kind find new with tags too.
Video suggestion: Please consider doing a video about how you get started when you realize you need something. How do you find these cool companies? How do you keep from feeling completely overwhelmed by how saturated the market is with products? Thanks for all the times you made shopping less overwhelming for me!!!
I, like you, am a massive fan of patagonia. They are my go to company when at all possible, even though I have to save up to shop there. When I make a purchase, for years my criteria has been, is it vegan and is it of sufficient quality. Those were my two metrics. Recently, I have added another metric and it has changed the game dramatically for me, and this is... Is the product fair trade and/or ethically sourced? Now this is a work in progress for me, but as an example, recently my apple slicer broke. I looked everywhere for one where I could source the labor practices and the results were depressing. No one had any data, all I could find were things made in China. This was quite a dilemma as I eat a ton of apples and use those slicers constantly. Ultimately, I could not find one so I invoked me "Go sideways" rule, and that is, if I can't find something within those metrics new, I will buy something used (as long as it's vegan). This is how I ended up with aircraft grade aluminum apple slicer from the late fifties. It's pretty incredible and I think it was made in America. With buying used, I know that I'm not contributing to any new harm. Its a fine line, but it's there. Another example was my recent purchase of a new broom for our house, as the old one was wearing out. Again, fair trade sourcing was next to impossible to find, but I did locate an Amish reseller online that sold hand made corn straw brooms. While I am not 100% in agreement with the Amish, I figure supporting a home business where things are at least decent, is miles better than supporting some massive sweat shop factory in parts abroad. Anyhow, sorry for the long post. -R.S. Hare
This is why the 3rd party certification is such an important factor. B corp is the most thorough certification system I have found so far for most companies but we need to have these things more widespread.
@H. Nguyen as far as them offering more products overall, yes that’s observed, but I think they balance it out by now making damn near everything from recycled fibers , and they will pull a product if the supply chain has sustainability issues, or if they want to revamp a classic piece but the recycled fabric isn’t passing quality control at that time. Recycled yarns are harder to weave into technical fabrics that meet our insatiable expectations. Plus it’s a business, the ultimate justification would be that the more we buy the more good they can do for the planet. But the question is has the amount of good they’ve done so far outweigh all the plastic (and other non-biodegradable materials) they’ve sold over 40+ years? I think that’s what really drives Chouinard, he’s at the age where he knows he only has a few years left to try to fulfill the first rule of the trail...”leave no trace”. It’s the Patagonia Paradox.
Thanks for this video! I was asking this very question on a Facebook PCT 2022 group and you answered some of the very things I was curious about. And hello from Victoria - I live here too!
Most of what I buy tends to be electronic devices because I use them the most (think laptop, headphones, and smart bulbs). But now that I'm buying more apparel and shoes for casualwear and running I do try to approach them the same way. I'll usually spend weeks if not months researching what it is I want to buy and save up in the meantime. What I usually look for in any product is a good design/style and durability. I don't mind saving up and paying more if the product is of better quality. Bonus if it a more sustainable company like Patagonia or Allbirds (at least until more companies follow suit).
I love everything I own from Arcteryx. Here in Calgary, spending 600 dollars on a down parka was very much worth it for me. Their fleece also gets a lot of use from me.
Hey Levi! There is a new Swedish company Called ”ASKET” that claims that they are really sustainable. I have bought some off their clothes and they are really comfterble and has high quality! But i Wonder if they really are as sustainable as they claim. Perhaps something for you to talk absolut in a future video? Keep up the god work!!!
Here supporting the algorithm 😎 love your vid's Levi you put lots of work into each of your videos, not to mention being a 1% for the planet YT channel. Still the only one who can say that I believe? Keep it up Levi 😊
The only thing I notice with really expensive clothing is, I don't really use my expensive stuff often and when I do wear them, I'm much more cautious and don't really get the full use out of the item. Quality gear is better and will last longer, but with clothing that's not really the case. Might be alittle more durable/lighter but not really worth it if you're paying 2-5 times the price of a decent quality economical piece of clothing, that might work alittle better. If your about to do a month long trip I think that could be justified.
Patagonia is one of my favorite brands. 5 years ago i bought the Nano Puff Jacket and it has been my go to jacket for the last 5 years, and some how it is still looking fresh and going strong. When i bought that jacket it was also a "huge" expense for me at the time. BUT sometimes we got to use a little extra money to save the planet. P.S. The colour of that Arcteryx Jacket is sick, rock it!
I own that hoodie and it is worth it! It's a great jacket because it's lightweight, comfy, and will provide warmth when it's chilly but won't make you sweat. I wear it when traveling, biking, hiking and doing errands. Also, the hoody looks attractive on me which I was happy with because I'm petite sometimes clothing doesn't look right on me due to my height. I tried the Patagonia hoodies and it doesn't look great on me. I have a few other Arteryx items and I am very impressed with their performance.
Love your videos! I would be interested to hear your insights to places like TJmax/home goods/ ross. People always ask me if that’s considered 2nd hand. Also running shoes like brooks... and then more outdoor shoe brands like chacos/tevas!
I always look at the material of the product. I found that wool is much more comftable and you don't need to wash them as often - most of the time you can just leave them outside to let the wind breeze out the odour. Otherwise I go for a mix of linen and cotton (linen alone often just gets too wrinkled. Regarding jackets I'm not too fond of synthetic materials - I find them hard to mend. So an oilskin jacket is on my wishlist. BTW, I just bought a grain mill and it's amazing how much better it taste. Maybe you could look into why we accept "old" grained flour but care wheter or not our coffee beans are freshly roasted and ground.
I did a lot of research on pretty much every jacket on the market this fall and the Atom LT (the Proton was a runner-up but the Atom has been fine) was what I landed on. I ended up buying a Beta shell later on as well. I work in logistics so I’m on a warehouse dock most of the night and it gets super cold depending on the weather. I also do a lot of cold-weather backpacking when I can. Most people probably don’t need most of the features present in Arcteryx products, but they can be nice to have and it was worth every penny. Don’t cheap out on your jacket folks. Patagonia’s hoods suck and Arcteryx’s are amazing. Someone let me try on one of their Protons before I bought mine and that was the deal breaker between buying the Atom over the Patagonia Nano-Air. I don’t even buy the hooded version of their products anymore.
Other things to consider are the articulated elbows and hood. The elbows are actually created with a bent shape, and the cinch on the hood is built for helmets so you can turn your head and have the hood follow you.
They also have the best customer service returns policy. My jacket ripped after 3 years of use, So I contacted them and after a few emails and photos of the problem they sent me a new jacket.
I had an Acr jacket and it started to delaminate and come unglued. Postage and fixing along with extra stuff all under warranty, five years later, totally awesome.
That hoodie is really nice and is worth it. This year I picked up 3 Nike ACG jackets and 1 jordan brand jacket. I just look for product that's well made good quality and that isn't harming the earth I pick stuff that's going to last.
Whenever I buy something I try to follow one rule that I made for myself and it’s helped me cut down a lot on what I spend (mostly in online shopping, it’s less effective for in person shopping). I close the tab and think about it, and wait at least a month before going back to it. If I feel like I still want/need whatever it is then I’ll seriously go back to looking into getting the best deal or see if I can find it used etc. It works pretty well cause unless the item is really important to me, I’ve usually forgotten about the thing I wanted to buy by the end of the first week.
I have a smaller wardrobe though I wouldn’t call it minimalist. I have an Arcteryx Atom Hoodie and a rain jacket by them as well. I looked for these used for about a year and finally bought them both. They are some of the best things I have spent my money on as a person who is constantly outdoors.
My shopping has changed over the past year with some strict rules. 1. Can't buy unless it's a missing hole in the wardrobe. 2. Must be from an ethical brand or 2nd hand. 3. Must be a quality product too. Being plus size this has been way hard, but after some searching and digging, I found a pair of shorts for the summer and some sandals that I'm very excited for, and I'm making an effort to wear the clothes I love. I also made an aesthetic board with characters I love, and if it doesn't seem like it's something one of them would wear, no dice! It's helping me get more of a cohesive wardrobe as I do replace things that are old or no longer my aesthetic.
I bring and wear my my arc’teryx atom jacket every backpacking on the AT and in the Adirondacks it’s Deffinatly a performance jacket, but to be real I brought my atom and a Patagonia micro puff to the top of Algonquin mtn in January and the atom kept me SO much warmer and I didn’t experience any wind chill but it’s important to recognize that the atom and the proton are synthetic jackets where as the micro puff is down which have their own pros and cons but as an out door jacket a synthetic jacket works the best for me
Yeah there's a big difference between jackets. I just wanted this thing for getting around on my bike in the shoulder seasons and as a layering piece for winter activities.
Levi Hildebrand the synthetic is gonna hold up hella nice for you though being in the north west, cold and wet dude? If your rockin a Patagonia micro or nano puff it will get wet and “ball” and then it’s ruined until you dry it out. If you were on the icy East where we get that dry cold that’s where down gets to flex
I have an Arcteryx beta AR that's given up after 4 years, this one is not biult to last - the first 2 arcteryx jackets I had did did surfing , mx, lots of mountain biking - they were hammerred and lasted nearly 10 years before I got bored and changed them for 2 more Arcteryx jackets, this Beta AR has done golf prob 5 or 6 times ove 4 years - it does go to the high st and the pub too in London), but the pit zip material parted from the pit zip in year 1(it also happened to my padded and more expensive arcteryx version too), then the liing in the pocket came away, then I noticed the bonding between the layers was coming undone -I used to work in fabric care so I recognised this bonding issue (it looked mottled ( it had never been in a drier), then the left zip pocket stopped working - it wouldnt close - to be quite honest it was so much worse than my other Beta jackets that I thought may be it was a fake even though I bought it from a reputable company - are there 2 manufacturng points for Beta Jackets - Then some tape around the neck started coming off. I like Arcteryx so I still wasnt going to send it back as long as I could zip it up but then the final straw - the main zip failed - OMG - so I sent it to Arcteryx - watch this space - do their zips last 4 years of shopping and a bit of golf / - is that built to last? I dont think it has done any serious outdoor work
Hey Levi. A little bit of a late reply but I recently invested in the arc teryx hoodie. I did at least a month of research prior to making the purchase. Because I got into backcountry skiing recently, layering is very important, especially while going uphill. Sweat management, as well as protection from the main. Prior, I had invested in a Patagonia down hoodie. I made the mistake and got the wrong kind of jacket. The down hoodie is excellent but because I get warm real fast, I would be sweating buckets if I was using it on the up track. Since it is suggested to always carry a backup insulation piece and even though it doesn't pack down well it still fits in my bag I decided to go for the proton lt hoodie. However, after more research, I was able to save cost on purchasing a hoodie that had a minute factory defect which wouldn't affect the overall performance. I have been used it for a couple of trips already and I couldn't be happier with my decision. Pertex is an interesting material and works well in all weather conditions. Looking forward to using it to its maximum limit On another note, since you have owned the proton lt hoodie for a while, any washing tips. Should it be treated as a normal down jacket or can I mix it and use normal laundry detergent. I researched care methods but couldn't find a clear set of directions
The Arc’teryx Patera parka matched my criteria (some examples: length, windproof, non-bulky, breathable, not a puffer style jacket) and actually looks quite good on. I hemmed and hawed about spending THAT much money on a coat, but in the end it was the most suitable. It’s not a popular/well known brand here in Australia and most people would think I’m crazy for spending that amount on a jacket......but after much research it was the jacket that met my needs the best.
The reason you are buying such an expensive item is because it will last close to a life time....as opposed to buying cheap made fast fashion items that literally disintegrate in months. The owner and founder of Patagonia lives by essentially a minimalist clothing style....he was quoted as saying he still owns a flannel he got in 1980 and wears it weekly. It’s the way most people need to live for actual sustainability to work
False. Rain jackets with waterproof/breathable membrane like Patagonia, Arc'teryx, or otherwise, will, depending on how heavy they are used, only last a few years before they start leaking. I haven't seen a decently used outdoor jacket that lasted a lifetime. Doesn't matter if it's a £650 Arc'teryx AR -- abrasion and washing cycles are the limitations of these high tech fabrics.
I just got an arc'teryx hooded long sleeve sun shirt for 75 dollars cause it was on sale and only 20 bucks more than the patagonia cool daily. I can't wait to get it in. Can't wait to start my thru hike.
I’m guilty of buying a lot of jackets. Other clothes not so much but jackets I have way too many from collecting over the years. Something about feeling prepared when you put them on. I’ve really tried to only buy jackets I will use a lot lately and donate/give away my older ones I bought strictly for style to. I’m pretty much just cycling between my TNF jackets day to do which are a windbreaker (which I wear the most, a thermoball jacket when it gets colder, a rain jacket of course, and an apex bionic soft shell that I wear commuting to work because I have to wear a suit and look professional coming into work. They all have a purpose and I wear them a ton/have one in my backpack. I think your purchase is fair. A technical hoodie like that is going to be your jacket for every day or travel/adventures no doubt. God I love jackets. I promised I wouldn’t get anymore this year.
Buying a variety of jackets and hoodies should be based upon application (use case). I must own at least a dozen Patagonia jackets, hoodies, parkas... But changing the garment type base upon weather conditions and temperature is actually a.fools errand". I've recently discovered the Stio brand of outdoor hoodies and vests. Have you tried them? Great stuff. The principal also applies to footwear based on form and function: run, walk, snow, rain, rocks or pavement....dressy, sporty, color, etc... Can lead to countless pairs of outdoor adventure wear.
Whenever I buy clothing etc I have to ask myself "I will wear it the amount of times it costs?"...if its £120, will I wear it 120 times? Will it last 120 wears? If the answers yes and i wear it more than 120 times, then it's worth it! Same goes if its £5 or £50:)
I bought one for my that and he wasn't really impressed by it at the beginning...but the more he wore it,the more he liked it and it's got to a point where he doesn't go out without his arcteryx jacket :)
Thx for the add apriciate that. I am going to buy my first jacket and I am not sure what is the best for me. I would use it for all day spring and fall as stand alone. For a relaxed walk with the dog or also for a boulder session. I am between the proton lt hoody. Like the longer arms and the outside chest pocket. Or the atom lt. Also there is the atom leaf lt. It has the chest pocket too. But technically fabric is not the new 2020. Hope you can tell me maybe your own experience. Heard the proton is not so warm for relaxed walking cause of the great climate fabric. Or do you think it is warm enough for spring and fall also for all day use without being active? The atom lt would be my alternative l. Heard it is better for all day but I like the proton style more. So i found the leaf but it has no update to 2020 Thx so much Best regards kevin
I have this jacket (different color 🤣) and had the same crisis of conscious shopping for it, even on sale. In the end the form fit function is unmatched. The sleeve cuff comfort and the way the arms move is like a second skin. Daily wear for me sept-May. It blocks the wind but somehow never overheats, and when it’s really cold it easily slides over a sweatshirt. The design is also super clean and it weighs next to nothing. Honestly blown away and it makes me reconsider my expectations for my other clothing! 10/10 recommendation.
I think it's really important to talk about labor rights when considering the sustainability of a product. I did a quick look on Arcteryx's website for their policy. They have claimed that while they pay at least minimum wage in their factories (whether domestic or foreign), they're working towards a living wage, but it remains "a challenge". I want to know why a jacket costs $350 and they're not universally paying their workers a living wage.
I completely agree. This is something that clothing companies struggle with across the board, even Patagonia. The truth is without making everything in N America (which would make everything insanely expensive) overseas is the only option. The fragmentation and complexity of these supply chains also mean it’s really hard to say for certain that a product is ethically made or not... but do note that they are one of the only companies I’ve seen in a while that even has a local production facility.
@@LeahandLevi I don't know that it would make clothing "insanely expensive". In assembly line settings, it's much easier to turn out product quickly. If I was making someone a custom shirt, yeah it's going to cost $300 because I'm making one and I can't set up a way to save time on steps through the process. By scaling up, there's ways of cutting and sewing to make the process quicker per item. Buying into this idea that paying factory workers a living wage would make prices go up doesn't closely scrutinize what higher ups in a company are paid.
@@LeahandLevi it's already insanely expensive. That channel about shoes...rose n anvil? Reviews some all American made boots and the prices ain't that different. So what if the jacket cost 380 or 420 instead of 350?
If I’m paying 350 for a hoodie/jacket it has to literally make me immortal and immune to horizontal British rain combined with heavy gust and whirlwind. Otherwise I’d struggle to justify paying for a jacket what I pay for rent.
There are plenty of brands that produce sustainable, high quality and good-looking products that don’t cost the earth (pun intended). Only differences are positioning and brand popularity. There are SO many factors that contribute to pricing other than quality; having said that it seems like I’m certainly not the target market for this particular company 😃
Hi Levi, I am from El Salvador but I am happy because recently I got The Satoro Arcteryx sweater for only $25 that its incredible sale and I know that If you buy Arcteryx its like Canada Goose quality and durability so you can be happy
I have to say that I really don't buy any clothes for myself until it has totally failed. At the moment own 2 jeans, 1 sweat pant, 1 capris (just bought) and 2 shorts. All of which is at least 5 years old. The capris were my first clothing purchase in over 5 years.
Awesome video Levi! I try to do the 2-week rule, if I still want to buy something after 2 weeks of waiting, then it's probably a good idea and something that I really want/need, and not an impulse-buy. Most of the time, 2 weeks later I've completely forgotten about that thing, which means I never needed it in the first place!
Oh my goodness the hood test. I have a teeny tiny head so most jackets have hoods that fall down over my eyes and make me blind. Adjustable well fitting hoods are a must :) Also that pylon orange colour is amazing for not getting hit by cars.
Hey man if u like it you like it. something I go by when making larger purchases is considering whether or not I will use that product for 1 hour for every dollar it cost me. So for the jacket, do you see yourself wearing it for 350 hours over the course of owning it? (That’s how I said no to an iPad lol)
I have a really similar arcteryx hoodie, the atom rather than the proton, and honestly it is one of the best items of clothing I own. Super light, comfy, warm and windproof. It will probably last me longer than 90% my other clothing. I'm still not set one which sustainable brands I prefer to buy from but one of these kinds of hoodies from arcteryx is definitely worth it.
The beautiful vital orange color is a selling point too. If you like bright colors, this is awesome! Btw what do you think of new brands like Outdoor Vitals and Coalatree? I've bought their jackets via their Kickstarter.
I shop based on prior experiences with a particular brand. I will typically continue to buy things from the same brand that I know will last and be worth the money I put into them. For example, I've had a pair of Columbia snow pants for easily 15 ish years. They're still in great condition. For my kids clothes I can get away with something that might be a little lower quality, but only because they're going to grow out of it so quickly, that they aren't going to get the use out of it that makes it worth the higher price point.
I liked your first video about arcteryx as well, I think people just missed your purpose because we are drowning in review vids these days. By the way... A video about the ethics of thrifting would be cool, I have recently gotten into upcycling and making fashionable items for friends who need that kind if thing, but delivering less of an impact than some terrible company like H&M.
I bought this jacket (don't even know the brand) from the local thrift store nearly 10 yrs ago and i wore it this winter 99% functionality... my arms have grown longer since then though, but i refuse to let this one go
I usually set some kind of upper limit based on my current understanding of the market. Usually that's sensible but recently I got a new desk chair and I didn't know shit about the price range so I had to adjust. This limit is mostly dependent on how much I'll use that product. As I earn pretty well and rarely by anything anymore (and I'm not interested in a car or a house just yet) I can afford the high end of the spectrum most of the time. And then I go do research. How deep that goes depends on how familiar I am with the area. For my monitor I had a very specific idea of things I wanted and in the end literally 2 choices left and then there still was some difference that made me get on of those with high confidence. And I'm happy with that monitor since I got it about 4 months ago. Happy enough to have 0 urge of replacing it (so far), which is something I tend to get way to quickly with tech as I get excited about that kind of stuff easily. Same thing for my work laptop (although Dells ordering had a stupid quirk resulting in a missing fingerprint ready, but that's not a big deal for the usecase). With my chair I mostly read reviews (lots of them) and compared warranties and repairabilty and used that to find out what I might want and not want and then got one. It was expensive but if it goes according to plan I'll basically never need another chair. And if then only because my preference changed so much that the old one doesn't suit me anymore and then I can just sell it to somebody who can the use it forever. Because it's high-end from a respected and well know manufacturer who will in all likelihood still provide replacement parts in 20 years. Also it has a ten year warranty.
You are not getting why the hoods are shaped the way they are. Usually they are go under or over a helmet and they're not for the city. Having the hoodie too loose means loss of heat. Also the proton isn't wind proof, it is one of the most breathable arcteryx layers they make and makes an excellent midlayer. The atom LT is more of a city jacket or standalone but with a similar tight hoodie.
I felt the same buying the atom lt lmao so light it feels like nothing but man last night I walked my dog with a t shirt n sweater underneath and that thing performed well in 30 degrees
Hey Levi would you ever consider doing a video on sunscreen? Or maybe you could reccomend some companies you like :) I work outdoors anywhere between 8-12 hours a day 5-7 days a week in the sun. I've never really thought about what actually goes into sunscreen or how it affects the environment much and that's something I want to start doing.
Oh god yeah this is a real issue for a lot of places. I haven't done research on it yet but I've been to a talk where they explained the issues with a certain kind that bleaches a TON of coral per drip. Defs look it up!
Levi, I we love if you could look at Decathlon a very popular European sport equipment company that have expanded all around the world (Canada included since last year) they make good quality product at an affordable price but I don't know much about their environmental practices. Thanks
One last excuse for buying this jacket... The Patagonia hoodie is a performance hoodie which means it has vents that make it very cool during anything less than warm weather. This layer is going to be my cooler weather athletic outfit. My goal is to get some hikes in this year to really justify the purchase! Anyways... thanks for watching everyone! Hit that subscribe button if you haven't already! ❤️🙋🏻♂️
You won't be disappointed with arcteryx - I have an atom LEAF LT hoodie and it is incredibly warm and great in light rain when I travel. I never had anything in between my puffy parka for cold snow and my lighter sweatshirts so I always found myself in this awkward middle temp of below 50 degrees or in light snow (CA if it's not obvious hehe) but not cold enough for the parka. I definitely agree about the price per wear idea - if you wear your stuff ALOT then it is worth it. Buying their heavy snow or rain jacket in a place like SoCal where you may use only 2 times a year is money that may be better spent elsewhere
buy and support local brand. local brand.
One point I really think you left out, and truly might satisfy the “need” requirement, is that the color (having one brightly colored garment of any kind really) is a safety tool when bike commuting, not to mention bike commuting often calls for weatherproofing of some kind, too. A reflective strip or something reflective makes this even more true. But from being a subscriber for a while, you really seem to have the neutral palette down, with nothing bright neon orange filling that gap.. until now. I know I feel safer biking when I’m wearing my bright colors.
Hey Levi and Leah! I was wondering if you guys could do a video on girlfriend collective. They are an ethical and sustainable women's activewear brand. They pride themselves on being transparent with production line and the materials they are using. Lots of people really like the brand but I can't help but be suspicious about how transparent their brand really is. I have two pieces from them and with all they hype behind the brand I was expecting something great, but I found the products to lack the quality I would expect from a sustainable and transparent brand.
@@michelleidalo Yeah that's actually super true. I noticed this when I was on my bike the other day. A great piece for standing out in the crowd lol
I like the conversation of “need” you have started to create. Because sometime you don’t “need” something but if will bring so much value to your life, that it’s okay to buy a “want”! As long as it’s something that you will use for a long time. There’s a huge emphasis in the sustainable community on only buying what you “need.” But joy is important too!
The thing is that “new” has a child-like joy that’s hard to beat.
You ALWAYS need high end gear, or else suffer/pay more over 10 years.
I bought my first arcteryx jacket the atom lt with my first pay cheque after college, keep in mind at that time it wasn’t heavily marketed as it is now. I spent countless of hours researching on the most versatile item where I can share it all year round.
It look me a while but when I broke it down to s few model I went to a store to try it on cause of my oddly shaped body I end up getting the atom in which it was on sale too. Eight years later I’m still wearing the same jacket
That's awesome to hear! I hope I get the same kind of use out of this one!
Ive had my Atom lt jacket for about 4 years now. It performs as if its brand new, no signs of wear, and has that nice broken in feel to it. I bought mine on sale too at a reasonable price. Well worth it.
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@@zFLAVEz Im reaserching for breathable jacket, some time, was looking at first for primaloft gold insulation, but had no luck, then last year I was so close, almost bought the proton AR jacket on sale, but it was to big so that was it, and they discontinuet the jacket, so now its eather this proton lt or nothing. Can it be worn in winter or its too thin for cold weather I mean below 35 F. I want something for more active use on the go, like hill walking in the winter months, and doesnt want to use many layers, ideal would be one base layer this jacket and thats it.
i work right next to the flagship REI store in seattle so i'm always popping into the room they have upstairs where they sell the returns they get. I got this jacket for around 70 bucks because the previous owner thought it was "too warm". looked and felt brand new. I get extra stoked every time i wear it!
I always stop by the rei garage sales!
I wondered what happens to the returned if you order two competing jackets, or the same jacket in 2 different sizes and take back the one that doesn’t fit. Especially if the tags have been popped
Hey Levi, I think the hoods are that way to accomodate climbing helmets!
Indeed. It's not designed for urban fashionista, though that's what it's more about now.
@@Conhead66 it is what it isssss🤷♂️
Climb helmet, yes!
*facepalm*
I’m late but right how can he claim months of research and not even know that at least..
I wear one of my Arc'teryx jackets year round! They look great, year after year.
Yeah I'm hoping to get a lot of use out of this bad boy!
Anyone else proud af for having participated in the “I-don’t-want-my-planet-to-die-angle” poll?
You the real MVP
Levi Hildebrand I’ve completed my life’s work
Bahahaha yes that was the option I voted for
Can you do an update video on birkenstocks, sunski and other sustainable brands and if you still like them from a couple years ago and if you still use them! love your content!
That's a great idea! I'll add that to the list!
i second this! pls!
Please do this!
Pls
Yes
I'm from vancouver and it's nice to see how few people there are outside in your videos during this time. It makes your videos look way more cinematic !!! Keep up the great work buddy!!!
thanks man!
I have an Atom LT jacket and it’s perfect for me. I happened to score it on sale for $153 after lots of waiting and coupons. I use it for thru-hiking, smaller backpacking trips, and daily life! It’s fantastic.
That's not a hoodie in the conventional n sense. It's a jacket.
Yeah. I’ve owned mine for about a year and a half, but I’m a pretty serious climber and a backpacker. I wear it literally everyday. So I’d recommend you get one too :)
(Get one used. You’ll save a lot)
But I agree. Definitely a jacket, not a hoodie
The proton LT hoody is one of the greatest pieces of outdoor apparel ever made IMO. It has an incredible combination of comfort, wind and rain protection, breathability, warmth, and durability that make it almost miraculously versatile. I love mine and consider it one of the best gear purchases I’ve made. And that hood... sooo comfy.
I purchased the Arc’teryx atom jacket and I can proudly say it was the best clothing purchase I have ever made by miles. It’s a worrier and is so light but also soo warm.
That's great to hear!
Arcteryx hoods are super comfortable and their brand fits super well. I found Patagonia’s sizing to be awkward and not as flattering. I hike often and choose arcteryx as my main gear source because not only is it technical but super comfortable to wear casually.
One should buy high-quality products because they will last. If you're not a fast fashion idiot buying Patagonia or another high-end outdoor product is an investment in years of great use. BTW, why don't you tighten the strap on your bike helmet so that it won't fly off in an accident? Great video.
Thanks Gary! I feel the same way! (and yeah I should probably tighten that up eh? haha)
I am trying to do this now. Fewer clothes but high quality that’ll last years. Perhaps a lifetime.
Loco Raindrops yeah for sure. I do wear my alpha walking the dogs but that’s because I own it already. I purchased it for alpine climbing. It’s life saving equipment if the weather goes south.
@@LeahandLevi You definitely should, because if you fall while wearing your helmet to loose, it could actually cause more damage then it prevents...
Patagonia is overpriced junk. 😭
I research stuff for months/years before I buy it too...sometimes by the time I decide to buy it the colour or size I want is gone and then I realize that I really didn't actually need it.
I spent a year deliberating between mid-weight puffies and finally decided to get the Patagonia Nano-puff in a super bright blue. I bought it for a backpacking trip because I had no lightweight jackets that packed down small, and I was really worried that I would ever use it again. Honestly though it fits so well and is so comfy and the colour is so good that I've worn it almost every day for a year now. Layered with a thin sweater and shell it got me through -40 in prince george, but it's light enough that on its own it works for the slight summer night chill. The blue is crazy bright enough that I wear it biking around town and feel much more high-vis.
It definitely filled a hole in my wardrobe that I didn't even know was there. Sometimes I think that when you're living a life trying to do as little harm to the planet as possible, you don't realize when you're giving up something great. That's the balance I struggle with.
It’s great to see how honest you are about this!
I try! Thanks for commenting!
I love Patagonia, but their jackets fit me like a box. And their hoods.... yeah. Arcteryx is just such a better fit for me. 👍
My most expensive jacket is my arcteryx alpha ar. So stupid expensive even on clearance, but it’s the best thing I own. Used it for 3 years now and it still works like day one.
A couple of weeks ago I bought an Atom LT Hoody by Arc'teryx. I've been wanting one for years and finally had enough money to spend on it when it went on sale. I've been wearing it everyday, I love how comfortable it is, and I'm planning on wearing it until it disintegrates!
I have this jacket since one year, I bought it because is high quality, nice looking and really useful/good for multiple activities, breathable and durable. If you buy something very durable you will not buy other things to replace it. You spend a little bit more today, but you save money in the future. The jacket is simply fantastic! I recommend it.
okay I love this video the part where you talk about actual need instead of just buying because “it’s sustainable” is something I needed to be reminded about.
I love buying Patagonia second hand.
myabs06 sometimes you get lucky at thrift stores and can find a fleece for around $20
I can’t wait for the thrift stores to open up again, I love going to the ones in Boston (I live in central Massachusetts). I buy Patagonia mostly off Poshmark, they typically have less wear and I kind find new with tags too.
@@myabs06 did you know Patagonia had a link for their used gear directly on their website?
@@justinjustinjustin10 I will have to check it out, thank you
Video suggestion: Please consider doing a video about how you get started when you realize you need something. How do you find these cool companies? How do you keep from feeling completely overwhelmed by how saturated the market is with products? Thanks for all the times you made shopping less overwhelming for me!!!
I, like you, am a massive fan of patagonia. They are my go to company when at all possible, even though I have to save up to shop there. When I make a purchase, for years my criteria has been, is it vegan and is it of sufficient quality. Those were my two metrics.
Recently, I have added another metric and it has changed the game dramatically for me, and this is...
Is the product fair trade and/or ethically sourced?
Now this is a work in progress for me, but as an example, recently my apple slicer broke. I looked everywhere for one where I could source the labor practices and the results were depressing. No one had any data, all I could find were things made in China. This was quite a dilemma as I eat a ton of apples and use those slicers constantly. Ultimately, I could not find one so I invoked me "Go sideways" rule, and that is, if I can't find something within those metrics new, I will buy something used (as long as it's vegan).
This is how I ended up with aircraft grade aluminum apple slicer from the late fifties. It's pretty incredible and I think it was made in America. With buying used, I know that I'm not contributing to any new harm. Its a fine line, but it's there.
Another example was my recent purchase of a new broom for our house, as the old one was wearing out. Again, fair trade sourcing was next to impossible to find, but I did locate an Amish reseller online that sold hand made corn straw brooms. While I am not 100% in agreement with the Amish, I figure supporting a home business where things are at least decent, is miles better than supporting some massive sweat shop factory in parts abroad.
Anyhow, sorry for the long post.
-R.S. Hare
This is why the 3rd party certification is such an important factor. B corp is the most thorough certification system I have found so far for most companies but we need to have these things more widespread.
@H. Nguyen as far as them offering more products overall, yes that’s observed, but I think they balance it out by now making damn near everything from recycled fibers , and they will pull a product if the supply chain has sustainability issues, or if they want to revamp a classic piece but the recycled fabric isn’t passing quality control at that time. Recycled yarns are harder to weave into technical fabrics that meet our insatiable expectations. Plus it’s a business, the ultimate justification would be that the more we buy the more good they can do for the planet. But the question is has the amount of good they’ve done so far outweigh all the plastic (and other non-biodegradable materials) they’ve sold over 40+ years? I think that’s what really drives Chouinard, he’s at the age where he knows he only has a few years left to try to fulfill the first rule of the trail...”leave no trace”. It’s the Patagonia Paradox.
as a big-headed individual, I also struggle to find hoods that fit :/ I'll have to give Patagonia a call lol
love the video as always!
A fellow big head! haha thanks for the support! haha
Thanks for this video! I was asking this very question on a Facebook PCT 2022 group and you answered some of the very things I was curious about. And hello from Victoria - I live here too!
Most of what I buy tends to be electronic devices because I use them the most (think laptop, headphones, and smart bulbs). But now that I'm buying more apparel and shoes for casualwear and running I do try to approach them the same way. I'll usually spend weeks if not months researching what it is I want to buy and save up in the meantime. What I usually look for in any product is a good design/style and durability. I don't mind saving up and paying more if the product is of better quality. Bonus if it a more sustainable company like Patagonia or Allbirds (at least until more companies follow suit).
I love everything I own from Arcteryx. Here in Calgary, spending 600 dollars on a down parka was very much worth it for me. Their fleece also gets a lot of use from me.
No, Arcteryx hoods are next level (I have the Atom AR). Gotta tighten it up a little bit and it wraps around the head soooo well.
Hey Levi! There is a new Swedish company Called ”ASKET” that claims that they are really sustainable. I have bought some off their clothes and they are really comfterble and has high quality! But i Wonder if they really are as sustainable as they claim. Perhaps something for you to talk absolut in a future video?
Keep up the god work!!!
Here supporting the algorithm 😎 love your vid's Levi you put lots of work into each of your videos, not to mention being a 1% for the planet YT channel. Still the only one who can say that I believe? Keep it up Levi 😊
Levi, you are not crazy. Very valid points made about the hoods. I agree. 👍
Hey. Thx for your review. Do you think this hoody will work for every day use in fall and spring 👌
The only thing I notice with really expensive clothing is, I don't really use my expensive stuff often and when I do wear them, I'm much more cautious and don't really get the full use out of the item. Quality gear is better and will last longer, but with clothing that's not really the case. Might be alittle more durable/lighter but not really worth it if you're paying 2-5 times the price of a decent quality economical piece of clothing, that might work alittle better. If your about to do a month long trip I think that could be justified.
Patagonia is one of my favorite brands. 5 years ago i bought the Nano Puff Jacket and it has been my go to jacket for the last 5 years, and some how it is still looking fresh and going strong. When i bought that jacket it was also a "huge" expense for me at the time. BUT sometimes we got to use a little extra money to save the planet.
P.S. The colour of that Arcteryx Jacket is sick, rock it!
I own that hoodie and it is worth it! It's a great jacket because it's lightweight, comfy, and will provide warmth when it's chilly but won't make you sweat. I wear it when traveling, biking, hiking and doing errands. Also, the hoody looks attractive on me which I was happy with because I'm petite sometimes clothing doesn't look right on me due to my height. I tried the Patagonia hoodies and it doesn't look great on me. I have a few other Arteryx items and I am very impressed with their performance.
Love your videos! I would be interested to hear your insights to places like TJmax/home goods/ ross. People always ask me if that’s considered 2nd hand.
Also running shoes like brooks... and then more outdoor shoe brands like chacos/tevas!
Subbed. Thanks for being awesome Levi!! been a long time lurker ;)
I always look at the material of the product. I found that wool is much more comftable and you don't need to wash them as often - most of the time you can just leave them outside to let the wind breeze out the odour. Otherwise I go for a mix of linen and cotton (linen alone often just gets too wrinkled.
Regarding jackets I'm not too fond of synthetic materials - I find them hard to mend. So an oilskin jacket is on my wishlist.
BTW, I just bought a grain mill and it's amazing how much better it taste. Maybe you could look into why we accept "old" grained flour but care wheter or not our coffee beans are freshly roasted and ground.
I did a lot of research on pretty much every jacket on the market this fall and the Atom LT (the Proton was a runner-up but the Atom has been fine) was what I landed on. I ended up buying a Beta shell later on as well. I work in logistics so I’m on a warehouse dock most of the night and it gets super cold depending on the weather. I also do a lot of cold-weather backpacking when I can. Most people probably don’t need most of the features present in Arcteryx products, but they can be nice to have and it was worth every penny. Don’t cheap out on your jacket folks.
Patagonia’s hoods suck and Arcteryx’s are amazing. Someone let me try on one of their Protons before I bought mine and that was the deal breaker between buying the Atom over the Patagonia Nano-Air. I don’t even buy the hooded version of their products anymore.
NORTHFACE 🥶
Other things to consider are the articulated elbows and hood. The elbows are actually created with a bent shape, and the cinch on the hood is built for helmets so you can turn your head and have the hood follow you.
They also have the best customer service returns policy. My jacket ripped after 3 years of use, So I contacted them and after a few emails and photos of the problem they sent me a new jacket.
I had an Acr jacket and it started to delaminate and come unglued. Postage and fixing along with extra stuff all under warranty, five years later, totally awesome.
That hoodie is really nice and is worth it. This year I picked up 3 Nike ACG jackets and 1 jordan brand jacket. I just look for product that's well made good quality and that isn't harming the earth I pick stuff that's going to last.
Dude this is a nice jacket, and will last forever. The color on the other hand well you picked it,enjoy and stay healthy.
Whenever I buy something I try to follow one rule that I made for myself and it’s helped me cut down a lot on what I spend (mostly in online shopping, it’s less effective for in person shopping). I close the tab and think about it, and wait at least a month before going back to it. If I feel like I still want/need whatever it is then I’ll seriously go back to looking into getting the best deal or see if I can find it used etc. It works pretty well cause unless the item is really important to me, I’ve usually forgotten about the thing I wanted to buy by the end of the first week.
I literally do the same thing 😭
I have a smaller wardrobe though I wouldn’t call it minimalist. I have an Arcteryx Atom Hoodie and a rain jacket by them as well. I looked for these used for about a year and finally bought them both. They are some of the best things I have spent my money on as a person who is constantly outdoors.
My shopping has changed over the past year with some strict rules. 1. Can't buy unless it's a missing hole in the wardrobe. 2. Must be from an ethical brand or 2nd hand. 3. Must be a quality product too.
Being plus size this has been way hard, but after some searching and digging, I found a pair of shorts for the summer and some sandals that I'm very excited for, and I'm making an effort to wear the clothes I love.
I also made an aesthetic board with characters I love, and if it doesn't seem like it's something one of them would wear, no dice! It's helping me get more of a cohesive wardrobe as I do replace things that are old or no longer my aesthetic.
I bring and wear my my arc’teryx atom jacket every backpacking on the AT and in the Adirondacks it’s Deffinatly a performance jacket, but to be real I brought my atom and a Patagonia micro puff to the top of Algonquin mtn in January and the atom kept me SO much warmer and I didn’t experience any wind chill but it’s important to recognize that the atom and the proton are synthetic jackets where as the micro puff is down which have their own pros and cons but as an out door jacket a synthetic jacket works the best for me
Yeah there's a big difference between jackets. I just wanted this thing for getting around on my bike in the shoulder seasons and as a layering piece for winter activities.
Levi Hildebrand the synthetic is gonna hold up hella nice for you though being in the north west, cold and wet dude? If your rockin a Patagonia micro or nano puff it will get wet and “ball” and then it’s ruined until you dry it out. If you were on the icy East where we get that dry cold that’s where down gets to flex
I have an Arcteryx beta AR that's given up after 4 years, this one is not biult to last - the first 2 arcteryx jackets I had did did surfing , mx, lots of mountain biking - they were hammerred and lasted nearly 10 years before I got bored and changed them for 2 more Arcteryx jackets, this Beta AR has done golf prob 5 or 6 times ove 4 years - it does go to the high st and the pub too in London), but the pit zip material parted from the pit zip in year 1(it also happened to my padded and more expensive arcteryx version too), then the liing in the pocket came away, then I noticed the bonding between the layers was coming undone -I used to work in fabric care so I recognised this bonding issue (it looked mottled ( it had never been in a drier), then the left zip pocket stopped working - it wouldnt close - to be quite honest it was so much worse than my other Beta jackets that I thought may be it was a fake even though I bought it from a reputable company - are there 2 manufacturng points for Beta Jackets - Then some tape around the neck started coming off. I like Arcteryx so I still wasnt going to send it back as long as I could zip it up but then the final straw - the main zip failed - OMG - so I sent it to Arcteryx - watch this space - do their zips last 4 years of shopping and a bit of golf / - is that built to last? I dont think it has done any serious outdoor work
Hey Levi. A little bit of a late reply but I recently invested in the arc teryx hoodie. I did at least a month of research prior to making the purchase. Because I got into backcountry skiing recently, layering is very important, especially while going uphill. Sweat management, as well as protection from the main. Prior, I had invested in a Patagonia down hoodie. I made the mistake and got the wrong kind of jacket. The down hoodie is excellent but because I get warm real fast, I would be sweating buckets if I was using it on the up track. Since it is suggested to always carry a backup insulation piece and even though it doesn't pack down well it still fits in my bag I decided to go for the proton lt hoodie. However, after more research, I was able to save cost on purchasing a hoodie that had a minute factory defect which wouldn't affect the overall performance. I have been used it for a couple of trips already and I couldn't be happier with my decision. Pertex is an interesting material and works well in all weather conditions. Looking forward to using it to its maximum limit
On another note, since you have owned the proton lt hoodie for a while, any washing tips. Should it be treated as a normal down jacket or can I mix it and use normal laundry detergent. I researched care methods but couldn't find a clear set of directions
In my book, a jacket you love that'll last 10 yrs is better than getting a new jacket @ $200 every 3.3 yrs.
Agree!!!!!💯💯💯💯
"I don't wanna look like a penis" LMAO IM FRIGGIN DEAD. Great video Levi!
The Arc’teryx Patera parka matched my criteria (some examples: length, windproof, non-bulky, breathable, not a puffer style jacket) and actually looks quite good on. I hemmed and hawed about spending THAT much money on a coat, but in the end it was the most suitable. It’s not a popular/well known brand here in Australia and most people would think I’m crazy for spending that amount on a jacket......but after much research it was the jacket that met my needs the best.
Great review! Much improved from last :) Love my arcteryx.
The reason you are buying such an expensive item is because it will last close to a life time....as opposed to buying cheap made fast fashion items that literally disintegrate in months. The owner and founder of Patagonia lives by essentially a minimalist clothing style....he was quoted as saying he still owns a flannel he got in 1980 and wears it weekly. It’s the way most people need to live for actual sustainability to work
False. Rain jackets with waterproof/breathable membrane like Patagonia, Arc'teryx, or otherwise, will, depending on how heavy they are used, only last a few years before they start leaking. I haven't seen a decently used outdoor jacket that lasted a lifetime. Doesn't matter if it's a £650 Arc'teryx AR -- abrasion and washing cycles are the limitations of these high tech fabrics.
And synthetic insulation is know to break down over time…down last longer.
Totally relate to the "research for months" mindset. I do it with almost every $100+ purchase.
I just got an arc'teryx hooded long sleeve sun shirt for 75 dollars cause it was on sale and only 20 bucks more than the patagonia cool daily. I can't wait to get it in. Can't wait to start my thru hike.
I’m guilty of buying a lot of jackets. Other clothes not so much but jackets I have way too many from collecting over the years. Something about feeling prepared when you put them on. I’ve really tried to only buy jackets I will use a lot lately and donate/give away my older ones I bought strictly for style to. I’m pretty much just cycling between my TNF jackets day to do which are a windbreaker (which I wear the most, a thermoball jacket when it gets colder, a rain jacket of course, and an apex bionic soft shell that I wear commuting to work because I have to wear a suit and look professional coming into work. They all have a purpose and I wear them a ton/have one in my backpack. I think your purchase is fair. A technical hoodie like that is going to be your jacket for every day or travel/adventures no doubt. God I love jackets. I promised I wouldn’t get anymore this year.
It's still way better to buy second-hand!
Hey Levi! What size do you wear in the jacket? And would you say it’s snug or loose enough to layer?
I see you with that Lumos Kickstart bike helmet. Super cool smart helmet. A necessity for bike commuters.
Yeah it's awesome eh? Leah and I love them!
Buying a variety of jackets and hoodies should be based upon application (use case). I must own at least a dozen Patagonia jackets, hoodies, parkas... But changing the garment type base upon weather conditions and temperature is actually a.fools errand". I've recently discovered the Stio brand of outdoor hoodies and vests. Have you tried them? Great stuff. The principal also applies to footwear based on form and function: run, walk, snow, rain, rocks or pavement....dressy, sporty, color, etc... Can lead to countless pairs of outdoor adventure wear.
I was gifted one of these, so although I didn't pay $350 for it, I will say, it is a really, really fine piece of kit. I would buy it if I had to.
Whenever I buy clothing etc I have to ask myself "I will wear it the amount of times it costs?"...if its £120, will I wear it 120 times? Will it last 120 wears? If the answers yes and i wear it more than 120 times, then it's worth it! Same goes if its £5 or £50:)
I bought one for my that and he wasn't really impressed by it at the beginning...but the more he wore it,the more he liked it and it's got to a point where he doesn't go out without his arcteryx jacket :)
I actually really like the colour :D
Thx for the add apriciate that.
I am going to buy my first jacket and I am not sure what is the best for me.
I would use it for all day spring and fall as stand alone. For a relaxed walk with the dog or also for a boulder session.
I am between the proton lt hoody.
Like the longer arms and the outside chest pocket.
Or the atom lt.
Also there is the atom leaf lt. It has the chest pocket too. But technically fabric is not the new 2020.
Hope you can tell me maybe your own experience.
Heard the proton is not so warm for relaxed walking cause of the great climate fabric.
Or do you think it is warm enough for spring and fall also for all day use without being active?
The atom lt would be my alternative l. Heard it is better for all day but I like the proton style more.
So i found the leaf but it has no update to 2020
Thx so much
Best regards kevin
Thx for your videos.
Do you feel cold when standing still. Cause of the high breathable fabric?
Love this video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I have this jacket (different color 🤣) and had the same crisis of conscious shopping for it, even on sale. In the end the form fit function is unmatched. The sleeve cuff comfort and the way the arms move is like a second skin. Daily wear for me sept-May. It blocks the wind but somehow never overheats, and when it’s really cold it easily slides over a sweatshirt. The design is also super clean and it weighs next to nothing. Honestly blown away and it makes me reconsider my expectations for my other clothing! 10/10 recommendation.
I think it's really important to talk about labor rights when considering the sustainability of a product. I did a quick look on Arcteryx's website for their policy. They have claimed that while they pay at least minimum wage in their factories (whether domestic or foreign), they're working towards a living wage, but it remains "a challenge". I want to know why a jacket costs $350 and they're not universally paying their workers a living wage.
I completely agree. This is something that clothing companies struggle with across the board, even Patagonia. The truth is without making everything in N America (which would make everything insanely expensive) overseas is the only option. The fragmentation and complexity of these supply chains also mean it’s really hard to say for certain that a product is ethically made or not... but do note that they are one of the only companies I’ve seen in a while that even has a local production facility.
@@LeahandLevi I don't know that it would make clothing "insanely expensive". In assembly line settings, it's much easier to turn out product quickly. If I was making someone a custom shirt, yeah it's going to cost $300 because I'm making one and I can't set up a way to save time on steps through the process. By scaling up, there's ways of cutting and sewing to make the process quicker per item. Buying into this idea that paying factory workers a living wage would make prices go up doesn't closely scrutinize what higher ups in a company are paid.
@@LeahandLevi it's already insanely expensive. That channel about shoes...rose n anvil? Reviews some all American made boots and the prices ain't that different. So what if the jacket cost 380 or 420 instead of 350?
If I’m paying 350 for a hoodie/jacket it has to literally make me immortal and immune to horizontal British rain combined with heavy gust and whirlwind. Otherwise I’d struggle to justify paying for a jacket what I pay for rent.
There are plenty of brands that produce sustainable, high quality and good-looking products that don’t cost the earth (pun intended). Only differences are positioning and brand popularity. There are SO many factors that contribute to pricing other than quality; having said that it seems like I’m certainly not the target market for this particular company 😃
great video dude. keep it up
Hi Levi, I am from El Salvador but I am happy because recently I got The Satoro Arcteryx sweater for only $25 that its incredible sale and I know that If you buy Arcteryx its like Canada Goose quality and durability so you can be happy
I have to say that I really don't buy any clothes for myself until it has totally failed. At the moment own 2 jeans, 1 sweat pant, 1 capris (just bought) and 2 shorts. All of which is at least 5 years old. The capris were my first clothing purchase in over 5 years.
I don’t mind the pylon look
Awesome video Levi! I try to do the 2-week rule, if I still want to buy something after 2 weeks of waiting, then it's probably a good idea and something that I really want/need, and not an impulse-buy. Most of the time, 2 weeks later I've completely forgotten about that thing, which means I never needed it in the first place!
Oh my goodness the hood test. I have a teeny tiny head so most jackets have hoods that fall down over my eyes and make me blind. Adjustable well fitting hoods are a must :)
Also that pylon orange colour is amazing for not getting hit by cars.
Hey man if u like it you like it. something I go by when making larger purchases is considering whether or not I will use that product for 1 hour for every dollar it cost me. So for the jacket, do you see yourself wearing it for 350 hours over the course of owning it? (That’s how I said no to an iPad lol)
Haha I love this rationale. I figure if I wear this thing 350 times thats even worth it but I know ill do a lot more.
Thanks for the video Levi! How warm is the jacket in your experience? Could you use it as a standalone jacket, for example? Many thanks!
On the west coast it’s pretty good for most of the year but in the winter you need some other layers
I have a really similar arcteryx hoodie, the atom rather than the proton, and honestly it is one of the best items of clothing I own. Super light, comfy, warm and windproof. It will probably last me longer than 90% my other clothing.
I'm still not set one which sustainable brands I prefer to buy from but one of these kinds of hoodies from arcteryx is definitely worth it.
The beautiful vital orange color is a selling point too. If you like bright colors, this is awesome!
Btw what do you think of new brands like Outdoor Vitals and Coalatree? I've bought their jackets via their Kickstarter.
I shop based on prior experiences with a particular brand. I will typically continue to buy things from the same brand that I know will last and be worth the money I put into them. For example, I've had a pair of Columbia snow pants for easily 15 ish years. They're still in great condition. For my kids clothes I can get away with something that might be a little lower quality, but only because they're going to grow out of it so quickly, that they aren't going to get the use out of it that makes it worth the higher price point.
You could also get the Patagonia hood tailored or totally replaced. 🤷♂️
I liked your first video about arcteryx as well, I think people just missed your purpose because we are drowning in review vids these days. By the way... A video about the ethics of thrifting would be cool, I have recently gotten into upcycling and making fashionable items for friends who need that kind if thing, but delivering less of an impact than some terrible company like H&M.
I bought this jacket (don't even know the brand) from the local thrift store nearly 10 yrs ago and i wore it this winter
99% functionality... my arms have grown longer since then though, but i refuse to let this one go
Kothay theke nili
That's amazing! Great find!
I usually set some kind of upper limit based on my current understanding of the market. Usually that's sensible but recently I got a new desk chair and I didn't know shit about the price range so I had to adjust. This limit is mostly dependent on how much I'll use that product. As I earn pretty well and rarely by anything anymore (and I'm not interested in a car or a house just yet) I can afford the high end of the spectrum most of the time. And then I go do research. How deep that goes depends on how familiar I am with the area.
For my monitor I had a very specific idea of things I wanted and in the end literally 2 choices left and then there still was some difference that made me get on of those with high confidence. And I'm happy with that monitor since I got it about 4 months ago. Happy enough to have 0 urge of replacing it (so far), which is something I tend to get way to quickly with tech as I get excited about that kind of stuff easily. Same thing for my work laptop (although Dells ordering had a stupid quirk resulting in a missing fingerprint ready, but that's not a big deal for the usecase).
With my chair I mostly read reviews (lots of them) and compared warranties and repairabilty and used that to find out what I might want and not want and then got one. It was expensive but if it goes according to plan I'll basically never need another chair. And if then only because my preference changed so much that the old one doesn't suit me anymore and then I can just sell it to somebody who can the use it forever. Because it's high-end from a respected and well know manufacturer who will in all likelihood still provide replacement parts in 20 years. Also it has a ten year warranty.
5:28 Levi being our (sustainable) male model
I have the same Proton and i love it. use it all the time
Do you know what color this is called?
All I want to know is would this keep me warm in Winter in Red Rock for activities such as hiking and bouldering?
I have a rain shell, and yes, it's worth it. I was skeptical.
You are not getting why the hoods are shaped the way they are. Usually they are go under or over a helmet and they're not for the city. Having the hoodie too loose means loss of heat. Also the proton isn't wind proof, it is one of the most breathable arcteryx layers they make and makes an excellent midlayer. The atom LT is more of a city jacket or standalone but with a similar tight hoodie.
Hey Levi, did you come across Icebreaker outdoor brand? Hoping to see some review on it
like your jacket. i have arcteryx gloves and a bag. theyre hard wearing and look good imo and it seems to be cheaper through third parties
I felt the same buying the atom lt lmao so light it feels like nothing but man last night I walked my dog with a t shirt n sweater underneath and that thing performed well in 30 degrees
Must say, an environment-friendly pylon
Hey Levi would you ever consider doing a video on sunscreen? Or maybe you could reccomend some companies you like :) I work outdoors anywhere between 8-12 hours a day 5-7 days a week in the sun. I've never really thought about what actually goes into sunscreen or how it affects the environment much and that's something I want to start doing.
Oh god yeah this is a real issue for a lot of places. I haven't done research on it yet but I've been to a talk where they explained the issues with a certain kind that bleaches a TON of coral per drip. Defs look it up!
Great video. What size did you buy and how tall are you? Thanks
Levi, I we love if you could look at Decathlon a very popular European sport equipment company that have expanded all around the world (Canada included since last year) they make good quality product at an affordable price but I don't know much about their environmental practices. Thanks