Sometimes I see people shit on DL in these costreams for shitty lol opinions/takes or whatever, but do they ever consider how entertaining his insane, deranged, brainded ramblings and questions are.
It’s not even close to the same community but nadeshot from call of duty is my favorite brain dead yapper. That man could talk about nonsense for 10 hrs just like Mr double chin
he leans into being a clown which is an endearing quality in conversation and even though people act like he is an idiot for it, it's better that everyone reacts to it extremely in general because it just makes it more fun
Ok so the infinite monkey debate keeps popping up and neither Sneaky nor DL actually understand the thought process behind it. The idea is that the works of Shakespeare are finite and written in English and English has a finite alphabet. So, the monkeys are meant to represent the function of mindlessly typing out combinations of words. Even if they do it mindlessly, since there are a finite number of combinations, we have to assume the constraint of no word repetition, the monkeys will eventually type out the complete works of Shakespeare since they will eventually necessarily type out all the possible word combinations and one of those combinations is the complete works of Shakespeare. Sneaky is mostly hung up on the material practicalities, yes the thought experiment is highly idealized and doesn't take into account monkey psychology but the idea is that monkeys simply represent typing without purpose and we have to abstract all the shit flinging. In actual practice, even if we get immortal monkeys somehow, the experiment will probably not work because there are a million other variables we have no accounted for like perhaps the monkeys get bored and stop typing or maybe they break the typewriter. Although less striking, the story works better if you think of a machine typing rather than monkeys since the point of the story stays exactly the same.
it's not a "debate" oh my god. The Monkeys are just a metaphorical representation of random inputs. that's all it means. Given enough time, any possibility, no matter how slight, will become a guarantee. It's not a debate, it's a truism
Your premise is different. Your monkeys type out random words but what Snekay is saying is that they are randomly bashing the keyboard. These two things are completely different.
if you have an infinite quantity and remove any amount that is not infinite from that (all of the integer numbers bigger than 100), you will still have an infinite that does not include every possibility
DoublePlug brings up all these dumb topics for content and to get a reaction, it's genius and he knows what he is doing. It's just the most entertaining topic he can think of at the time and we low-key love it
Yeah that's what he's doing when he asks these questions and brings up random topics. It just to fill the silence with content which is literally his job
Its really weird to think of like these super popular and famous people in the word of League when I was growing up, just end up being some random guy who's like "yeah i won x number of championships and played international tournaments and was one of the best in the world"
@@Pastelbluesox I thought I was crazy lmao I think they are saying the progession from og double one of the best in the world to a commentator and essentially retired legend is weird to see. Kinda like how commentators in sports are past legends. Or at least thats me giving them the benefit of the doubt lol
The monkey problem is kinda fun. The math behind it.... Pretend there are the letters of the alphabet and 4 punctuation symbols. Those 30 characters are your base of an exponent. That exponent is equal to the number of characters in his total work. Say for example his play had 100,000 letters. It would be 30 to the power of 100,000. 30^100,000 is an absurdly large number. I think if you compare the length of a millimeter to the width of the known universe, it's only like 10^28 or something. 😂
Thoughts on the math problems: Infinite monkey theorem: If a monkey types random letters infinitely, surely at some point, it will type out "hi". It might take a few hundred keystrokes, sure, but it's bound to happen. By doing the same thing, it might type out "hello". In fact, it will, if you give it enough time. This time, it will probably take the entire day. The idea of the theorem is that how much time it takes, or how unlikely the event is, as long as the event is not strictly impossible, and you have infinite time or tries, it will happen. The more unlikely the output, the longer it will probably take. But it will happen. So why not Shakespeare's entire repertoire? Goats behind doors: This one is a lot more intuitive. After your first try, the show host reveals all the doors except: the one you picked and another one Among the 2 remaining doors, one contains a goat, and the other one, a car. If, when given your second try, you stick with your original choice, you are betting on the fact that you were right the first time around. If there are 3 doors (the lowest amount possible for this problem to make sense), the probability of you being right on the first try is 1/3. There's a 2/3 chance that you were wrong, and whatever door the host didn't reveal besides yours, contains the car. The issue is even more obvious if you add more doors. With 100 doors, if you stick with your first choice, you're betting that you got it right the first time around, even thought it was a 1% chance. There's 99% chance your first guess is wrong. So you should obviously pick the other one. It's very obviously biased towards switching doors for your second guess when there are 100 doors. But even with 3 doors, this bias, although much smaller, still exists, and you should switch doors all the time. Sometimes it will be wrong, but more often, it will be the right choice.
For the goat thing it's not a 50/50 because it introduces the additional variable of not having been chosen to reveal the 2nd door as "the one with a goat in it" to eliminate, which gives it a higher chance at having the car than the one you initially picked by a substantial margin since there's only a 33% chance that you picked the car on the first try, so with a 66% chance that the car still remains, if a goat door is opened it means that that 2nd door still has that 66% chance at a car since we assume that a goat door would be opened after you select a door regardless of whether you chose a car or a goat.
The example with 100 doors makes it more intuitive to understand. If you have 100 doors, with 99 goats and 1 car behind them. You choose one door, and then I open up 98 other doors with goats behind them. Will you still say that you have a 50/50 chance of winning? Will you still say that the first door you choose is the correct one? That you were that lucky to get the door with the car behind it?
Sneaky is fundamentally misunderstanding the infinite monkey theorem. Its a thought experiment; put into a more understandable scenario, say you had a machine that randomly typed one random key at a time, eventually, given infinite time, no matter how minute the odds, that machine will eventually type out all the works of William Shakespeare. That is all it is saying, but replace the machine with several monkeys. These monkeys know how to type and randomly choose between a letter. It is not saying pluck some monkeys off the street and put them in front of some typewriters and eventually that will happen, because it won't.
Akaadian has 2 things in favor about his body: 1. His genetics 2. He was a "profesional" high school athlete until he got injured and started playing league while healing
Wait that pictoral description of Monty Hall was so good, legit better explanation than both professors in college that explained it in class in just two images
With infinite timelines, infinite monkeys all working together, and infinite time- a paradox can and or will happen where they will re-create Shakespeare with a type writer. But even then, these constructs would need to be created with this soul purpose in mind.
I never saw them discussing it live only once, and immediately I was brought back down in the philosophical mud with Shiphtur the second they brought it up again. The thing is I think almost every friend group has some argument like this that just lasts the ages.
The best way to think about the Monty Hall problem is to make it 100 doors instead. You pick one random door, and the host opens 98 doors with goats. Now your door has a 1/100 chance of having the car, but the _other_ door has a 99/100 chance.
Monty hall explantation: Imagine doing the whole thing multiple times. you will only pick the right door 1/3 of the time, the first time you are asked. So one third of the time you will f**k yourself by switching, but the rest of the time you picked wrong the first time and by switching you end up with the car.
It's a false scenario because the door that can be selected initially is impossible to be the right choice, so it was 50/50 from the get go no matter what
I'm with Sneaky on that stupid brain teaser. I don't really understand how 2/3 is still a part of the equation when one door has been removed. You have 1/2 chance because there's no longer three options. There's two.
I don't know how serious these humans are but I am double majoring in math and physics and do research in physics at a national lab and I would happily have stupid stoned conversations with Sneaky about silly math concepts
The point about the monkey story is that it answers questions such as "why is there something rather than nothing" and "an unlikely event can and will happen if its possible and it doesnt require any sort of intentional design" (which generally relates to arguments against creationism
The story doesn't really apply to the something rather than nothing question since an infinity of nothing is perfectly possible and so is an infinity of the exact same thing (mathematically at least).
Will it happen? If the monkey was pressing one keycap sure it would happen but the monkey is bashing the keyboard. Infinity doesn't necessarily mean that something will happen. U can have Infinite realities all be the same reality.
@@DelgaDudeThe infinite monkey theorem is a mathematical construct, not a real life scenario, it is assumed that the monkeys know how to type and do nothing but type. Infinite time doesn't always mean infinite possibilities but it does here
During those competitive moments you do feel desperate. But not in a negative way, just that you have a desperate want to win. A strong feeling to win. It is dedication but it's also desperation, you want it so bad. Yno?
@botbadger no. Homeless people have no choice but to be desperate. But they have a choice to be dedicated about anything they want like getting food, drinks, etc. Desperation to me is last resort. It's 100% the wrong word
It's just a fact. Shakespeare's works could be recreated by randomly typing keys. It is possible. And since it is possible, it will happen eventually if you are typing out completely random keys.
@@Sam27182 you’re right. If I was to type completely random keys for infinity, I would probably do it. If you were typing keys at random for infinity you would probably do it. But no fuckin way a monkey smashing on a keyboard would ever, no matter how long
We can say that there are infinite numbers between 1 and 2, but it will never be those numbers. So just because a monkey has infinite amount of time, doesn't mean every possible outcome can happen
If it is typing out completely random keys, there is a random sequence of keys that is identical to all of Shakespeare's work. And since that random sequence of keys is possible, it will be typed out eventually.
@@DelgaDude If an event is possible, then given infinite time it will happen. That's just a fact. The only question is if it is possible, which it is if we assume that the keys pressed are truly random.
@@Sam27182 U don't get it. Let's say u have a 99% chance of something happening today. There is a 1% chance of that thing not happening. Let's say u have an infinite amount of time. There is a universe in which it is possible for that thing to not happen despite it being only a 0.000...1% chance. So even when something seems guaranteed due to infinity it's actually not.
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DL never got a picture of a homies balls on his personal belongings and it shows
OG's remember the original "planner balls" clip from years back.
Btw is that video still on Sneaky's backlog? I've yet to find it again
Sometimes I see people shit on DL in these costreams for shitty lol opinions/takes or whatever, but do they ever consider how entertaining his insane, deranged, brainded ramblings and questions are.
It’s not even close to the same community but nadeshot from call of duty is my favorite brain dead yapper. That man could talk about nonsense for 10 hrs just like Mr double chin
he leans into being a clown which is an endearing quality in conversation and even though people act like he is an idiot for it, it's better that everyone reacts to it extremely in general because it just makes it more fun
DL may be a little silly sometimes but thats what makes him entertaining
I think the problem is that it's very hard to get when he is actually being a clown and when he is clueless.
That's what makes him NAs GOAT
Damn Meteos changed a little
We all know he is part asian
Good to see Shiptur again
Ok so the infinite monkey debate keeps popping up and neither Sneaky nor DL actually understand the thought process behind it. The idea is that the works of Shakespeare are finite and written in English and English has a finite alphabet. So, the monkeys are meant to represent the function of mindlessly typing out combinations of words. Even if they do it mindlessly, since there are a finite number of combinations, we have to assume the constraint of no word repetition, the monkeys will eventually type out the complete works of Shakespeare since they will eventually necessarily type out all the possible word combinations and one of those combinations is the complete works of Shakespeare. Sneaky is mostly hung up on the material practicalities, yes the thought experiment is highly idealized and doesn't take into account monkey psychology but the idea is that monkeys simply represent typing without purpose and we have to abstract all the shit flinging. In actual practice, even if we get immortal monkeys somehow, the experiment will probably not work because there are a million other variables we have no accounted for like perhaps the monkeys get bored and stop typing or maybe they break the typewriter. Although less striking, the story works better if you think of a machine typing rather than monkeys since the point of the story stays exactly the same.
it's not a "debate" oh my god. The Monkeys are just a metaphorical representation of random inputs. that's all it means. Given enough time, any possibility, no matter how slight, will become a guarantee. It's not a debate, it's a truism
Your premise is different. Your monkeys type out random words but what Snekay is saying is that they are randomly bashing the keyboard. These two things are completely different.
@@DelgaDude not the point of the thought experiment. Sneaky misunderstands the scenario. That's not the same thing as a debate.
the paid actors holding up the signage in pregame on the broadcast: 😐
if you have an infinite quantity and remove any amount that is not infinite from that (all of the integer numbers bigger than 100), you will still have an infinite that does not include every possibility
DL also cant handle silence he has to talk
revisiting the infinite monkey theorem and monty hall problem is such a good throwback
DoublePlug brings up all these dumb topics for content and to get a reaction, it's genius and he knows what he is doing. It's just the most entertaining topic he can think of at the time and we low-key love it
Only took one session of lcs costream for shiphtur to get figure out doublelift is an s tier yapper lmao
shiphtur coming out with the fax "you have brain damage" lmaooo
Doublelift knows how to make content fr
Yeah that's what he's doing when he asks these questions and brings up random topics. It just to fill the silence with content which is literally his job
There is no shot I would have been able to go through this series without the goated commentary of the one and only doublelift. Glad to have him
Huh? But it was so hype
The only goat is the sneaky editor ❤
i cant believe were on this again, ITS INIFITY LADS
Why is the monkey-shakespeare debate back I hate this timeline lmfao
"how many skibidi toilets have you watched?" "0" amazing
SNEAKYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY INFINITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm so glad they're revisiting these math topics lmao
Love how DL was extra fucking stupid in this one lol
I mean neither Sneaky nor Shiphtur were right about the monkey typewriter or Monty Hall problems
Its really weird to think of like these super popular and famous people in the word of League when I was growing up, just end up being some random guy who's like "yeah i won x number of championships and played international tournaments and was one of the best in the world"
What
@@Pastelbluesox I thought I was crazy lmao I think they are saying the progession from og double one of the best in the world to a commentator and essentially retired legend is weird to see. Kinda like how commentators in sports are past legends. Or at least thats me giving them the benefit of the doubt lol
loving shiphtur on stream
20:30 the infinite monkey theorem throwback lmaoo
If you haven't watched Waiting you gotta. You'll hear Meteos in half the jokes, no lie.
tbh, i wouldn't be watching LCS if it wasn't for you fellas. Have a great one!
The fucking skibidi toilet discussion at the end was so funny lmao
DL had so many bangers this stream and then at the very end he decides to subject his viewers to skibidi toilet
The monkey problem is kinda fun.
The math behind it....
Pretend there are the letters of the alphabet and 4 punctuation symbols. Those 30 characters are your base of an exponent. That exponent is equal to the number of characters in his total work. Say for example his play had 100,000 letters. It would be 30 to the power of 100,000.
30^100,000 is an absurdly large number.
I think if you compare the length of a millimeter to the width of the known universe, it's only like 10^28 or something.
😂
Dude Danny is funny af we need him on with Meaty toes
Thoughts on the math problems:
Infinite monkey theorem:
If a monkey types random letters infinitely, surely at some point, it will type out "hi". It might take a few hundred keystrokes, sure, but it's bound to happen.
By doing the same thing, it might type out "hello". In fact, it will, if you give it enough time.
This time, it will probably take the entire day.
The idea of the theorem is that how much time it takes, or how unlikely the event is, as long as the event is not strictly impossible, and you have infinite time or tries, it will happen. The more unlikely the output, the longer it will probably take. But it will happen. So why not Shakespeare's entire repertoire?
Goats behind doors:
This one is a lot more intuitive.
After your first try, the show host reveals all the doors except:
the one you picked
and another one
Among the 2 remaining doors, one contains a goat, and the other one, a car.
If, when given your second try, you stick with your original choice, you are betting on the fact that you were right the first time around.
If there are 3 doors (the lowest amount possible for this problem to make sense), the probability of you being right on the first try is 1/3.
There's a 2/3 chance that you were wrong, and whatever door the host didn't reveal besides yours, contains the car.
The issue is even more obvious if you add more doors.
With 100 doors, if you stick with your first choice, you're betting that you got it right the first time around, even thought it was a 1% chance.
There's 99% chance your first guess is wrong.
So you should obviously pick the other one.
It's very obviously biased towards switching doors for your second guess when there are 100 doors. But even with 3 doors, this bias, although much smaller, still exists, and you should switch doors all the time. Sometimes it will be wrong, but more often, it will be the right choice.
For doublelifts where are they now series. He should ask fabby for an interview. Saintvicious said few years ago that fabby is a cop now
For the goat thing it's not a 50/50 because it introduces the additional variable of not having been chosen to reveal the 2nd door as "the one with a goat in it" to eliminate, which gives it a higher chance at having the car than the one you initially picked by a substantial margin since there's only a 33% chance that you picked the car on the first try, so with a 66% chance that the car still remains, if a goat door is opened it means that that 2nd door still has that 66% chance at a car since we assume that a goat door would be opened after you select a door regardless of whether you chose a car or a goat.
The example with 100 doors makes it more intuitive to understand. If you have 100 doors, with 99 goats and 1 car behind them. You choose one door, and then I open up 98 other doors with goats behind them. Will you still say that you have a 50/50 chance of winning? Will you still say that the first door you choose is the correct one? That you were that lucky to get the door with the car behind it?
Sneaky is fundamentally misunderstanding the infinite monkey theorem. Its a thought experiment; put into a more understandable scenario, say you had a machine that randomly typed one random key at a time, eventually, given infinite time, no matter how minute the odds, that machine will eventually type out all the works of William Shakespeare. That is all it is saying, but replace the machine with several monkeys. These monkeys know how to type and randomly choose between a letter. It is not saying pluck some monkeys off the street and put them in front of some typewriters and eventually that will happen, because it won't.
Akaadian has 2 things in favor about his body: 1. His genetics 2. He was a "profesional" high school athlete until he got injured and started playing league while healing
37:04 😳Excuse me? She was in armor mode what the fuck is that arrow damage LMAO
Wait that pictoral description of Monty Hall was so good, legit better explanation than both professors in college that explained it in class in just two images
oh my god sneaky i love you but please dont be reminding me of your lowest points with the monkeys and mont
y hall i cant
Would love the "where are they now" series
Sneaky literally does not understand the concept of infinity. Standard Floridian.
I’ve been feeling pretty down lately but the return of planner balls really brightened my day.
Doublelift signing off the cast to go watch the latest episode of skibidi toilet has me dead
@24:14 I'm a mathematician, can I volunteer as tribute?
With infinite timelines, infinite monkeys all working together, and infinite time- a paradox can and or will happen where they will re-create Shakespeare with a type writer. But even then, these constructs would need to be created with this soul purpose in mind.
I never saw them discussing it live only once, and immediately I was brought back down in the philosophical mud with Shiphtur the second they brought it up again.
The thing is I think almost every friend group has some argument like this that just lasts the ages.
pretty sure Azir supp was used as heimer counter in LCK way before busio cause i spammed it in solo queue cause of it
their backgrounds make it look like they're streaming from the same house or room even
We need doublelift to do the argument about .9 repeating = 1 on one of these
Where is C9 Balls
Quality content
The best thing we did in high school is turn their backpack inside out
Listening to these people be confused by infinity is very funny
The best way to think about the Monty Hall problem is to make it 100 doors instead. You pick one random door, and the host opens 98 doors with goats. Now your door has a 1/100 chance of having the car, but the _other_ door has a 99/100 chance.
great video guys, best one yet! i am so ready to watch it
Doublelift starting off with projecting is crazy
he's just speaking facts, im still in locker he shoved me in. help
Need Meteos to sit DL down LMAO
Monty hall explantation: Imagine doing the whole thing multiple times. you will only pick the right door 1/3 of the time, the first time you are asked. So one third of the time you will f**k yourself by switching, but the rest of the time you picked wrong the first time and by switching you end up with the car.
It's a false scenario because the door that can be selected initially is impossible to be the right choice, so it was 50/50 from the get go no matter what
@@EverythingIsTaken94 why would it be impossible to select initally? That makes no sense.
Doublelift CARRIED this whole vid on his back damn
Yoo
First xx
IMT looking clean
perfect timing
I'm with Sneaky on that stupid brain teaser.
I don't really understand how 2/3 is still a part of the equation when one door has been removed.
You have 1/2 chance because there's no longer three options. There's two.
I don't know how serious these humans are but I am double majoring in math and physics and do research in physics at a national lab and I would happily have stupid stoned conversations with Sneaky about silly math concepts
The point about the monkey story is that it answers questions such as "why is there something rather than nothing" and "an unlikely event can and will happen if its possible and it doesnt require any sort of intentional design" (which generally relates to arguments against creationism
The story doesn't really apply to the something rather than nothing question since an infinity of nothing is perfectly possible and so is an infinity of the exact same thing (mathematically at least).
Will it happen? If the monkey was pressing one keycap sure it would happen but the monkey is bashing the keyboard. Infinity doesn't necessarily mean that something will happen. U can have Infinite realities all be the same reality.
@@DelgaDudeThe infinite monkey theorem is a mathematical construct, not a real life scenario, it is assumed that the monkeys know how to type and do nothing but type. Infinite time doesn't always mean infinite possibilities but it does here
DL said desperate thats def not word i wouldve chose. id go with dedication, determination or motivation to be the best
During those competitive moments you do feel desperate. But not in a negative way, just that you have a desperate want to win. A strong feeling to win. It is dedication but it's also desperation, you want it so bad. Yno?
@botbadger no. Homeless people have no choice but to be desperate. But they have a choice to be dedicated about anything they want like getting food, drinks, etc. Desperation to me is last resort. It's 100% the wrong word
I will forever side with Sneaky in the infinite monkey theorem. There’s absolutely no fucking way.
It's just a fact. Shakespeare's works could be recreated by randomly typing keys. It is possible. And since it is possible, it will happen eventually if you are typing out completely random keys.
@Sam27182 One by one sure but if ur bashing the keyboard it's impossible imo and that's what Sneaky is saying.
@@Sam27182 you’re right. If I was to type completely random keys for infinity, I would probably do it. If you were typing keys at random for infinity you would probably do it. But no fuckin way a monkey smashing on a keyboard would ever, no matter how long
@@DelgaDude Depends on the exact way it is being "bashed".
We can say that there are infinite numbers between 1 and 2, but it will never be those numbers. So just because a monkey has infinite amount of time, doesn't mean every possible outcome can happen
If it is typing out completely random keys, there is a random sequence of keys that is identical to all of Shakespeare's work. And since that random sequence of keys is possible, it will be typed out eventually.
@Sam27182 It's also possible for that thing to never happen no matter how low of a possibility it is. So what do we do now?
@@DelgaDude If an event is possible, then given infinite time it will happen. That's just a fact. The only question is if it is possible, which it is if we assume that the keys pressed are truly random.
@@Sam27182 U don't get it. Let's say u have a 99% chance of something happening today. There is a 1% chance of that thing not happening. Let's say u have an infinite amount of time. There is a universe in which it is possible for that thing to not happen despite it being only a 0.000...1% chance. So even when something seems guaranteed due to infinity it's actually not.
Any event actually possible will happen given mathematical infinity, full stop. The probability may be low but it's never zero.