Ollie had already acknowledged the guy was quick. If he hadn't sent the message, Ollie probably would have just let him past, then he wouldn't have gotten slow downs and extra penalties for off tracks battling. That one message really was his downfall in the end.
Dude brilliant race. The last incident would have been obvious to the third car in line. Which was him. Its called race craft. He could have easily seen that your exit from the chicane would have been compromised. He could have easily did a nice cross over move on you and saved the penalty. Sometimes tho in the heat of the moment clarity is obscured. Cheers mate🍻well done!
Well driven Ollie. Great work not letting the entitled princess have a easy race. I like how you even give him credit where it was due to his pace. Pity some of that didnt translate to his messaging for a free pass.
Sending it more than a post office, poor form. He earned that DQ! Not your fault nor problem Ollie. A fast enough driver can find a way through cleanly. Keep up the good work bro!
I love that his talking made you race him harder haha, asking for this kind of stuff is just stupid especially in short sprint races like this. If he wants to get by he should make a pass, not write pm's on the straights .. IRL you can't talk with opponents in a race either..
This is probably one of the tracks I'd let people past if they're obviously faster than me. Slipstream them for most of the race and try overtake them back at the end. Or just fuel save loads if theres a pitstop
Had someone do something similar. Asked why I was racing him (when I was defending on Lap 2) then proceeds to spin a couple of corners later 😂 Karma!!!
The logic is that early on the race you want to stay as close to the leader as possible, and fighting early will just let them get away. If you know the person behind you is faster than you, it can make sense to let him pass and then use his tow to escape from the others behind and give some hope to catch up ahead. Sometimes it makes sense, sometimes it doesn't, but that's why you have some people putting in a message like "don't fight, push" in the early stages of the race.
That guy Mehmet doesn’t need an apology. There was no way he was getting by - stuck his nose in tentatively instead of typing a message mid race….! Who even does that? Commander DILD of the DILD Squadron…. That’s who!
@19:54 seems Mehmet is kinda shady imo. You have full draft on a straight yet he is alone gaining a tenth every few seconds. No matter what even if youhad full wing and him no wing that still wouldn't be that drastic. Not with you having the full tow of the car in front.
No reason for his messages as a 4.9k driver against a 3.7k driver early in the race at a track like Monza where its super easy to make a pass if he indeed had the pace. Understandably he wanted to get to where he thought his fight was without wasting time but that's not your problem, it's a race.
I think the same way as you, If you want this position you need to fight for it and not tell others what to do. You can let him pass by yourself if you see that she/he is faster, but there is nothing in the rules that you have to do. Last week at the GT4 race I had a guy behind me who was clearly faster than me and I just told him to pass me on a strait, not to get into any incident and lose the safety rating, but again it was my own choice
Great race Ollie and result, very entertaining. That guy defo had pace but no race craft and defo an ego. He must of been taking off track to dq anyway. His own moves cost him.😂
It's a race. If you wanna pass you make the pass don't start asking for someone let you pass. And at the end you 'let' him pass and he couldn't stay in front of you so you did what he asked and got position right back.
Nothing I hate more when it comes to iRacing is knobheads with ego's, yes you're quick but that doesn't mean you can intimidate people to move over for you. he concentrated on driving and not typing mid race then maybe he would of done better. The incident at the end was just karma in my opinion.
Firstly, well driven. Keeping it together with an over aggressive driver behind and another very good driver ahead is no small feat. Second, Mehmet is far to aggressive without having the racecraft to back it up. The move he tried twice and failed at T1 because he was on the outside on the second part is a perfect example. The incident that gave him the 17x/DQ was also just a racing incident, you gave as much room as you could but going over the curb was always going to push you wide, he should have seen that and sacrificed the entry to get you on exit. Would have been easy done if he had. Sadly, as some have already said, he seems like a hotlapper and only looks at the car ahead and not the situation in full. Good race Ollie!
Im subbing for that incredible “in your face” perfection of technique overtake you did on that man! Finished vid: fantastic race! Unfortunate he got dq but 1 that was dumb to shoot for an overtake at that time and 2 he looked like he had multiple penalties. Doesn’t matter how fast you go as long as you can be consistent with it.
I'm usually a mid-pack racer that can occasionally be at the front of the grid with the right track-car combo. I've been in races where a fast driver will start at the back of the grid to avoid T1 chaos and then demand that I just move out of there way because they have better pace. I usually concede to a driver a after a couple of laps if I realize that I'm no competition for them. I'm not the type of driver who is going to put up a fight with someone who is obviously way faster, but I figure if someone is that fast, they will prove that to me by their driving skills. I'm not going to just let someone pass me because they claim to be faster, that's the point of racing.
That's right Ollie, if they can overtake you in a good spot, just do it already. One can be polite in a race up to a point, but that's it. Every man for himself on the track. Pretty nice race, with mild carnage at the start, which sometimes is beneficial, like it was now. 4th place is pretty good. Ollie, you seem to be among the top 10 almost every race now, or you are just winning the race,hahah. You did your homework with GT for sure. You've put in the hours, and now you are getting to the good stuff 👍 Damn man, who knows how far this simracing thing will take you. Live your dream, young man 🖖
If me and the guy behind can both be faster if we cooperate then fine. But often I hear demands from guys to let them past when I KNOW the guys upfront are faster than me. Why on Earth would I help you to catch up to them and then leave me in the dust when you get there?
Since I'm here it is obvious that I like your channel. 1) arrogant from good drivers generally and he was faster but not necessary to ask to past, is racing and many good races forget it's about to race 2) I don't agree on some of the members here, it was your fault since you lost control a bit over the car but was a race accident 3) generally it was a clean race from all of you in this pack even if he sometimes did write strange things 4) why did he get a DQ?
I wonder if it's a language thing. I don't think English will be his first language and he's typing on the straight. May well have meant that he thought the 2 of you could do better as a pair if he led and you worked together. Just a thought...
Looks like he has great hotlapping pace and not much race craft to me. Struggled to pass people unless they move aside for him. Wouldn't beat yourself up about the last incident causing a DQ. It's likely on him that he was close to one in the first place.
Imagine be that fast but also being so incompetent on how to overtake or drive in the traffic..all while writing (which is almost a mental illness if you ask me). Also the crash wasn’t your fault, it was exactly what is called “exit vortex of danger”. No need to apologize to him as it was just incompetence by his side.
OMG, so not your fault what happened to that guy. He got all those x's by being overly aggressive. If he was that close to a penalty or DQ, he shouldn't have tried passing in the middle of a chicane. Sometimes the quickest drivers are so mean and entitled. If he thought he was so superior, he should have been able to pass you cleanly.
I could be wrong but it seems to me he wanted to work together to get to the guys ahead. You would lose less time fighting at turn 1 if u let each other through on each lap. But i understand that could not be the case too so maybe its just miscommunication. At the end of the day, it's racing
Nice one and wearing your Saints top too. Looking like Championship football for us next season 😢. Great driving. Can you imagine Verstappen saying that to another non teammate driver ahead of him!? Never heard it in F1 or any type of real life racing, why would someone think it's acceptable in sim racing?
writing this comment before watching the video, im currently 0:49 seconds into it for reference but I have no issue if someone is asking "hey can u let me by" if they are faster just to avoid any incident points. as long as its not a special event i have no issue with it. I have asked if you can let me by and i have been told let me by a lot so I get both sides. To elaborate more since I know im horrible at explaining things. I am quite a competitive person and even I myself don't take to well to getting "hey can you let me by" messages in chat or over the radio and I would be absolutely fuming if i get that message during a special event but in a hourly race like this and especially in porsche cup when you can get a 4x for even looking at their bumper for too long I dont really blame him
my view vaguely similar BUT this is a 30 minute race not an endurance. You have to EARN that position, you should never ask for it. Just makes the person defending want to keep it even more
@@BasicOllie Personally, I ask all the time. If it's a track I am confident on, and I know I am faster than the person ahead, I will ask them to let me by. My reasoning is if we have a 30+ minute race, we can use that time to get ahead rather than battle and lose the people ahead. So if they let me pass, I tell them I will give them a tow. If people don't want to give up the position, that is fine. I will take it by merit. I will never argue and be mad if they don't want to, even if it's super early into a race, and they are clearly making us lose the people ahead. But that's just my reasoning.
That wasn't your mistake mate, fight your corner more, you were always going to have to take that line and he was only in a position to claim front bumper beyond your rear due to being in an inevitable collision. Silly place to put his car when 2 were so clearly battling. RE the message, wouldn't care about it, it's a cheeky little effort!
Meh…one of those situations where there’s no right answer. The way he “asked” to pass was obviously stupid, but in the end you’re probably losing time defending against someone who’s going to pass you anyway. No right answer but you’re certainly entitled to defend if you want
I understand why he did it, buts it was way to early in the race if it was half way then maybe, but at least ask (and give the position back if you fail to make places) but then acting surprised when you raced them is just silly on their end. They were quick just extremely impatient and it cost him time (and I would argue the last lap incident was a racing incident, they knew the risk of the move and did it anyway and can't really complain if they had been going of track all race)
The quality of close action racing was insane. Looked like pros. As for his demand… maybe he thought you were his teammate 😊 I can understand his frustration. He was in front and someone bumped him off track which gave you the pass. If the bumping car wasn’t obviously blue I’d wonder if he thought you were the one who owed him his position I think he’s seen team orders on TV and surrendered positions on iracing and doesn’t get the nuance for when/why it happens
That dude that got the 17x - def not your fault. You had the corner and he didnt leave racing room so he caused his own contact. @basic ollie - where did you get the race track pics behind you from?
I don't really think that was a sense of entitlement message. I think he was trying to get in front so the two of you could catch 1st and 2nd place. I would've let him by. And use him to drag me up to the front with him. Remember! Don't play checker's. Play chess.
Yeah great race nice drive Ollie v pro. As for matey , I suppose you have to have a bit of bravado and self belief out there after all he is a bloody good driver but better to let your driving do the talking. It's just that I wouldn't personally express myself like that that's all, it's just different bit cheeky personalities and in racing you meet them all.
Just because someone is faster than the person in front doesn't entitle them to the position. Positions have to be earned on the track by passing the person in front in a proper racing manner. Otherwise, accept the position you are in.
Considering his request would never happen in real racing he shouldn’t expect it to happen in sim racing, I would imagine if there was cross driver communication in real racing and a driver behind asked to be let buy, they would receive some pretty harsh and hilarious words from the driver in front, and they sure as hell wouldn’t be letting them buy and will try even harder to defend their position, Great drive Ollie, you deserve to defend your position
@@clemensmayer9637 considering he and Ollie aren’t teammates, not sure how that applies in this situation and even if it did the driver doesn’t radio to the other driver they complain to their race engineer, never in the history of motorsport on planet earth do drivers radio each other teammate or not and tell them to let me buy
Do you still feel you're responsible for them going off at the end?? They were no where near along side enough - if they,leave their nose in like that a lot, they should expect to have it cut off more often than not IMO!
yo. so, ollie, i got the LMP2 recently. I'm not a hugely fast driver, do you have any tips? I always see you win with the lmp2, so I figured you'd be able to find some tip for it.
Playing devil's advocate, but is he merely not suggesting you work with him to catch the leaders because he has the run out of Parabolica? He bump drafts you on next lap and, possibly, English isn't his first language and the phraseology isn't great on his part. Just a suggestion.
How can one send a private message if they are driving? Does he have someone else typing his messages or does this guy literally have pre binded texts like this?
fwiw... I have no problem with him asking you. It seems silly, but whatever. As long as he doesn't get bent out of shape if you don't let him, it's all good. It may benefit you to let him by so you're both not losing time fighting with each other, but it really depends on the situation, though. He's got skills, it seems. He's fast and I was impressed with his control through the chicane, for sure. He just needs to learn how to set up a pass better, imo. I don't think it was your fault taking him out in the chicane. Almost no chance that was going to work. Not really a good place to try that, although to be honest, his other moves weren't working, so he kinda had to try. I think he should have tried poking his nose up like he did to affect your line, but then backed out for the cut back. Just m2c, though.
It's definitely not your fault. Where else would you go. He should have lifted. The same bloke was in another race last night blowing up because someone sent it on him. He's definitely rapid.
Racers should not be able to talk to each other during race , that's motorsports not "talksports" , seen guys using that verb , if you want to pass , do the work and pass otherwise shut it.
I don't see how that last lap incident is your fault, poor race craft from him really. He could see you had a tight line into that corner and he stuck his nose up your outside, what was he expecting to happen? Racing incident every day of the week
he is one of these that are quick but lack race craft sorry to say you can be slower but be a better racer and have better Finishers than the quick guys, they tend to get the high ir due to getting out in front and having no one close to them and driving away, as soon as you put some cars around our in front of them they have issues (this is not all high ir people)
Great driving Ollie. That guy was of questionable intelligence and probably a little too much Gen Z for my liking, despite his clear speed. I bet he doesn’t share his Quality Street either!
In a (top) split like this, I would find it weird these questions. in the low/middle splits I recide, I can understand them better - specially when the one behind is clearly faster(as it avoids possible errors by 1 of both drivers, taking both out). Better then those idiots flashing continue without actualy being faster, or trying the pass. But the "why" is just annoying. Dont play a race game if you dont want to race, go play career mode in F1 or something Though all these chats and complaining on the mic - just shut up and drive. sometimes there seems to be more entitled twats that normal thinking people around. "really, really'.. boy, start understanding point of view ;P
I play ACC and was wondering the same thing when people are sledging during the race. I'm guessing either voice recognition linked to a headset or hotkeys.
Great drive Ollie, Porsche cup is so hard but so much fun, I've been running a series for the past few weeks last race next week at Le Mans. Keep up the good work.
Hot take; maybe the guy wanted to work together as a team to catch up to p1-p2. Using the tow to help make up the time I feel like he was thinking of the bigger picture towards the end of the race and you already settled on keeping p3
Last lap incident was not on you. Mehmet didn't need to put his car there. Could have easily had you into the next corner if he went right instead of left.
Devils advocate. Its difficult because he is using preset messages. If he came on chat and said lets work together, I think I am faster, take my tow. Then its a different race. Maybe it was his intention. Then again maybe not😂
i bet without the message you would have let him passed and tucked in and tried to catch the leaders but after the message its game on i would defend all day then
All sending that message does is make the guy ahead defend harder.
Ollie had already acknowledged the guy was quick. If he hadn't sent the message, Ollie probably would have just let him past, then he wouldn't have gotten slow downs and extra penalties for off tracks battling. That one message really was his downfall in the end.
Love how humble you are Ollie ,even when someone is being a twat,you still show them respect for their pace.
I've dealt with this dude, clearly fast but really lacks race craft. Great drive!
Dude brilliant race. The last incident would have been obvious to the third car in line. Which was him. Its called race craft. He could have easily seen that your exit from the chicane would have been compromised. He could have easily did a nice cross over move on you and saved the penalty. Sometimes tho in the heat of the moment clarity is obscured. Cheers mate🍻well done!
Well driven Ollie. Great work not letting the entitled princess have a easy race. I like how you even give him credit where it was due to his pace. Pity some of that didnt translate to his messaging for a free pass.
Sending it more than a post office, poor form. He earned that DQ! Not your fault nor problem Ollie. A fast enough driver can find a way through cleanly. Keep up the good work bro!
I love that his talking made you race him harder haha, asking for this kind of stuff is just stupid especially in short sprint races like this. If he wants to get by he should make a pass, not write pm's on the straights .. IRL you can't talk with opponents in a race either..
This is probably one of the tracks I'd let people past if they're obviously faster than me. Slipstream them for most of the race and try overtake them back at the end. Or just fuel save loads if theres a pitstop
Had someone do something similar. Asked why I was racing him (when I was defending on Lap 2) then proceeds to spin a couple of corners later 😂 Karma!!!
The logic is that early on the race you want to stay as close to the leader as possible, and fighting early will just let them get away. If you know the person behind you is faster than you, it can make sense to let him pass and then use his tow to escape from the others behind and give some hope to catch up ahead.
Sometimes it makes sense, sometimes it doesn't, but that's why you have some people putting in a message like "don't fight, push" in the early stages of the race.
That guy Mehmet doesn’t need an apology. There was no way he was getting by - stuck his nose in tentatively instead of typing a message mid race….! Who even does that? Commander DILD of the DILD Squadron…. That’s who!
@19:54 seems Mehmet is kinda shady imo. You have full draft on a straight yet he is alone gaining a tenth every few seconds. No matter what even if youhad full wing and him no wing that still wouldn't be that drastic. Not with you having the full tow of the car in front.
Your initial comment was absolutely spot on - want to overtake, then earn it!
No reason for his messages as a 4.9k driver against a 3.7k driver early in the race at a track like Monza where its super easy to make a pass if he indeed had the pace. Understandably he wanted to get to where he thought his fight was without wasting time but that's not your problem, it's a race.
I think the same way as you, If you want this position you need to fight for it and not tell others what to do. You can let him pass by yourself if you see that she/he is faster, but there is nothing in the rules that you have to do. Last week at the GT4 race I had a guy behind me who was clearly faster than me and I just told him to pass me on a strait, not to get into any incident and lose the safety rating, but again it was my own choice
It’s racing, if you’re quicker then make the pass. Great racing, brilliant drive Ollie 💪
Great race Ollie and result, very entertaining. That guy defo had pace but no race craft and defo an ego. He must of been taking off track to dq anyway. His own moves cost him.😂
It's a race. If you wanna pass you make the pass don't start asking for someone let you pass. And at the end you 'let' him pass and he couldn't stay in front of you so you did what he asked and got position right back.
Nothing I hate more when it comes to iRacing is knobheads with ego's, yes you're quick but that doesn't mean you can intimidate people to move over for you. he concentrated on driving and not typing mid race then maybe he would of done better. The incident at the end was just karma in my opinion.
So, you're fast and behind me... This is now my problem, because of...? Oh, it's not my problem...
Firstly, well driven. Keeping it together with an over aggressive driver behind and another very good driver ahead is no small feat.
Second, Mehmet is far to aggressive without having the racecraft to back it up. The move he tried twice and failed at T1 because he was on the outside on the second part is a perfect example. The incident that gave him the 17x/DQ was also just a racing incident, you gave as much room as you could but going over the curb was always going to push you wide, he should have seen that and sacrificed the entry to get you on exit. Would have been easy done if he had. Sadly, as some have already said, he seems like a hotlapper and only looks at the car ahead and not the situation in full.
Good race Ollie!
Im subbing for that incredible “in your face” perfection of technique overtake you did on that man!
Finished vid: fantastic race! Unfortunate he got dq but 1 that was dumb to shoot for an overtake at that time and 2 he looked like he had multiple penalties. Doesn’t matter how fast you go as long as you can be consistent with it.
I'm usually a mid-pack racer that can occasionally be at the front of the grid with the right track-car combo. I've been in races where a fast driver will start at the back of the grid to avoid T1 chaos and then demand that I just move out of there way because they have better pace. I usually concede to a driver a after a couple of laps if I realize that I'm no competition for them. I'm not the type of driver who is going to put up a fight with someone who is obviously way faster, but I figure if someone is that fast, they will prove that to me by their driving skills. I'm not going to just let someone pass me because they claim to be faster, that's the point of racing.
That's right Ollie, if they can overtake you in a good spot, just do it already. One can be polite in a race up to a point, but that's it. Every man for himself on the track.
Pretty nice race, with mild carnage at the start, which sometimes is beneficial, like it was now. 4th place is pretty good.
Ollie, you seem to be among the top 10 almost every race now, or you are just winning the race,hahah.
You did your homework with GT for sure. You've put in the hours, and now you are getting to the good stuff 👍 Damn man, who knows how far this simracing thing will take you.
Live your dream, young man 🖖
If me and the guy behind can both be faster if we cooperate then fine. But often I hear demands from guys to let them past when I KNOW the guys upfront are faster than me. Why on Earth would I help you to catch up to them and then leave me in the dust when you get there?
Since I'm here it is obvious that I like your channel. 1) arrogant from good drivers generally and he was faster but not necessary to ask to past, is racing and many good races forget it's about to race 2) I don't agree on some of the members here, it was your fault since you lost control a bit over the car but was a race accident 3) generally it was a clean race from all of you in this pack even if he sometimes did write strange things 4) why did he get a DQ?
I wonder if it's a language thing. I don't think English will be his first language and he's typing on the straight. May well have meant that he thought the 2 of you could do better as a pair if he led and you worked together. Just a thought...
Looks like he has great hotlapping pace and not much race craft to me. Struggled to pass people unless they move aside for him. Wouldn't beat yourself up about the last incident causing a DQ. It's likely on him that he was close to one in the first place.
Imagine be that fast but also being so incompetent on how to overtake or drive in the traffic..all while writing (which is almost a mental illness if you ask me). Also the crash wasn’t your fault, it was exactly what is called “exit vortex of danger”. No need to apologize to him as it was just incompetence by his side.
OMG, so not your fault what happened to that guy. He got all those x's by being overly aggressive. If he was that close to a penalty or DQ, he shouldn't have tried passing in the middle of a chicane. Sometimes the quickest drivers are so mean and entitled. If he thought he was so superior, he should have been able to pass you cleanly.
How did he manage to send that private message on that relatively short straight? Either he is also an amazing typist, or someone else sent it.
I was thinking the same thing no way he typed it that fast with one hand lol
Or possibly worse, he has a hotkey for that exact phrase.
crew chief has voice recognition and can send messages for you while you drive if you set up a macro.
I could be wrong but it seems to me he wanted to work together to get to the guys ahead. You would lose less time fighting at turn 1 if u let each other through on each lap. But i understand that could not be the case too so maybe its just miscommunication. At the end of the day, it's racing
Nice one and wearing your Saints top too. Looking like Championship football for us next season 😢.
Great driving. Can you imagine Verstappen saying that to another non teammate driver ahead of him!? Never heard it in F1 or any type of real life racing, why would someone think it's acceptable in sim racing?
OMG I thought it was going to be Bram. I was in a race with him today and was asking someone to let him pass
raced him a few times yesterday, he was super clean to be fair to him
@@BasicOllie not sure how he got on. He was somewhere behind me 🤭. But as for your race, it's no good being that fast if you can't finish. Nough said
writing this comment before watching the video, im currently 0:49 seconds into it for reference but I have no issue if someone is asking "hey can u let me by" if they are faster just to avoid any incident points. as long as its not a special event i have no issue with it. I have asked if you can let me by and i have been told let me by a lot so I get both sides.
To elaborate more since I know im horrible at explaining things. I am quite a competitive person and even I myself don't take to well to getting "hey can you let me by" messages in chat or over the radio and I would be absolutely fuming if i get that message during a special event but in a hourly race like this and especially in porsche cup when you can get a 4x for even looking at their bumper for too long I dont really blame him
my view vaguely similar BUT this is a 30 minute race not an endurance. You have to EARN that position, you should never ask for it. Just makes the person defending want to keep it even more
@@BasicOllie I 100% agree with that view as well
If you don't want to race, do solo practicer
@@BasicOllie Personally, I ask all the time. If it's a track I am confident on, and I know I am faster than the person ahead, I will ask them to let me by. My reasoning is if we have a 30+ minute race, we can use that time to get ahead rather than battle and lose the people ahead. So if they let me pass, I tell them I will give them a tow. If people don't want to give up the position, that is fine. I will take it by merit.
I will never argue and be mad if they don't want to, even if it's super early into a race, and they are clearly making us lose the people ahead. But that's just my reasoning.
That wasn't your mistake mate, fight your corner more, you were always going to have to take that line and he was only in a position to claim front bumper beyond your rear due to being in an inevitable collision. Silly place to put his car when 2 were so clearly battling. RE the message, wouldn't care about it, it's a cheeky little effort!
I can't stand people who think that because they are faster they deserve special treatment. Good on ya for not indulging the entitled .....
The bit on the last lap causing his Black Flag was a racing incident. Great race overall.
Meh…one of those situations where there’s no right answer. The way he “asked” to pass was obviously stupid, but in the end you’re probably losing time defending against someone who’s going to pass you anyway. No right answer but you’re certainly entitled to defend if you want
U got the guy so pissed he pull over and gave up. Bit of driving with your ego from both of you.
13x in 13 laps and a 4x on lap 14 gives them a drive-through, they have no one to blame but themselves.
I bet he was taking an offtrack through Ascari every lap, that's why he was so quick out of there
My man got all so confused, he thought he was in a qualy session, lmao. Honestly I don't think this guy knows what a race is
I understand why he did it, buts it was way to early in the race if it was half way then maybe, but at least ask (and give the position back if you fail to make places) but then acting surprised when you raced them is just silly on their end. They were quick just extremely impatient and it cost him time (and I would argue the last lap incident was a racing incident, they knew the risk of the move and did it anyway and can't really complain if they had been going of track all race)
The quality of close action racing was insane. Looked like pros.
As for his demand… maybe he thought you were his teammate 😊
I can understand his frustration. He was in front and someone bumped him off track which gave you the pass. If the bumping car wasn’t obviously blue I’d wonder if he thought you were the one who owed him his position
I think he’s seen team orders on TV and surrendered positions on iracing and doesn’t get the nuance for when/why it happens
That dude that got the 17x - def not your fault. You had the corner and he didnt leave racing room so he caused his own contact. @basic ollie - where did you get the race track pics behind you from?
I don't really think that was a sense of entitlement message. I think he was trying to get in front so the two of you could catch 1st and 2nd place. I would've let him by. And use him to drag me up to the front with him. Remember! Don't play checker's. Play chess.
Yeah great race nice drive Ollie v pro. As for matey , I suppose you have to have a bit of bravado and self belief out there after all he is a bloody good driver but better to let your driving do the talking. It's just that I wouldn't personally express myself like that that's all, it's just different bit cheeky personalities and in racing you meet them all.
Just because someone is faster than the person in front doesn't entitle them to the position. Positions have to be earned on the track by passing the person in front in a proper racing manner. Otherwise, accept the position you are in.
This is correct, otherwise we should just be talking the race result from qualifying!
Considering his request would never happen in real racing he shouldn’t expect it to happen in sim racing, I would imagine if there was cross driver communication in real racing and a driver behind asked to be let buy, they would receive some pretty harsh and hilarious words from the driver in front, and they sure as hell wouldn’t be letting them buy and will try even harder to defend their position, Great drive Ollie, you deserve to defend your position
TBH this happens frequently in real racing, especially between team mates...
@@clemensmayer9637 are u serious?
@@jasonfiglioli6660 that teams ask drivers to swap positions because the other one is faster? Yes, that happens...
@@clemensmayer9637 considering he and Ollie aren’t teammates, not sure how that applies in this situation and even if it did the driver doesn’t radio to the other driver they complain to their race engineer, never in the history of motorsport on planet earth do drivers radio each other teammate or not and tell them to let me buy
I will tell someone I don’t want to fight so not to lose time to people ahead but I’ll never tell someone to move out the way especially for a podium!
Do you still feel you're responsible for them going off at the end?? They were no where near along side enough - if they,leave their nose in like that a lot, they should expect to have it cut off more often than not IMO!
Ultimately it’s your choice not his…. Great racing as always
yo. so, ollie, i got the LMP2 recently. I'm not a hugely fast driver, do you have any tips? I always see you win with the lmp2, so I figured you'd be able to find some tip for it.
He didn't ask you to let him pass, he told you to let him pass
Yes it's ok to ask to pass. Definitely are times it's smarter to let someone pass. Its situational though.
Playing devil's advocate, but is he merely not suggesting you work with him to catch the leaders because he has the run out of Parabolica? He bump drafts you on next lap and, possibly, English isn't his first language and the phraseology isn't great on his part. Just a suggestion.
I need to try that and see how many people fall for it 😂😂. “Let me pass” 😂😂😂
How can one send a private message if they are driving? Does he have someone else typing his messages or does this guy literally have pre binded texts like this?
fwiw...
I have no problem with him asking you. It seems silly, but whatever. As long as he doesn't get bent out of shape if you don't let him, it's all good.
It may benefit you to let him by so you're both not losing time fighting with each other, but it really depends on the situation, though.
He's got skills, it seems. He's fast and I was impressed with his control through the chicane, for sure. He just needs to learn how to set up a pass better, imo.
I don't think it was your fault taking him out in the chicane. Almost no chance that was going to work. Not really a good place to try that, although to be honest, his other moves weren't working, so he kinda had to try. I think he should have tried poking his nose up like he did to affect your line, but then backed out for the cut back. Just m2c, though.
Head games, no different to flashing lights at you on first lap.
It's definitely not your fault. Where else would you go. He should have lifted. The same bloke was in another race last night blowing up because someone sent it on him. He's definitely rapid.
Racers should not be able to talk to each other during race , that's motorsports not "talksports" , seen guys using that verb , if you want to pass , do the work and pass otherwise shut it.
If you wanna pass, you gotta earn it!
It's fine for him to ask for the position
It's fine for you to tell him "fuck that" as well 🤣
Fast always loses to Consistency. Consistently quick and smooth lines wins vs incredibly fast but inconsistent lines every time.
I don't see how that last lap incident is your fault, poor race craft from him really. He could see you had a tight line into that corner and he stuck his nose up your outside, what was he expecting to happen? Racing incident every day of the week
Just because you're faster doesn't mean you deserve to be in front of somebody. You have to earn it every race.
Yes Oli you can always fight, but in the situation it's just stupid.
If you had let him drive you could have gotten p2, but your ego got in the way.
he is one of these that are quick but lack race craft sorry to say you can be slower but be a better racer and have better Finishers than the quick guys, they tend to get the high ir due to getting out in front and having no one close to them and driving away, as soon as you put some cars around our in front of them they have issues (this is not all high ir people)
Spot on comment!
If it was a 12 hour race, okay maybe I could see the reasoning. But for a 25 minute? Nah, man you have to earn that.
If you’re obviously faster and trying to overtake for a few laps, I’ll consider letting you by. But I’ll probably fight it anyways
Great driving Ollie. That guy was of questionable intelligence and probably a little too much Gen Z for my liking, despite his clear speed. I bet he doesn’t share his Quality Street either!
Dont fancy drivers like that princess Mehmet.
Great video tho (as always)
Much love from the rainy North (Denmark)
You will never get around me by asking me to let you by, if you were fast enough to be by me, you would be by me...
In a (top) split like this, I would find it weird these questions.
in the low/middle splits I recide, I can understand them better - specially when the one behind is clearly faster(as it avoids possible errors by 1 of both drivers, taking both out).
Better then those idiots flashing continue without actualy being faster, or trying the pass.
But the "why" is just annoying. Dont play a race game if you dont want to race, go play career mode in F1 or something
Though all these chats and complaining on the mic - just shut up and drive.
sometimes there seems to be more entitled twats that normal thinking people around. "really, really'.. boy, start understanding point of view ;P
I say it was a racing accident as you got a bad bounce off the kerb! I want to know how can he type and drive 😮
I play ACC and was wondering the same thing when people are sledging during the race. I'm guessing either voice recognition linked to a headset or hotkeys.
it's his responsibility to make a pass if he's quicker, not asking the person in front to move over like an entitled snowflake.
He earned that DQ, not on you at all.
Great drive Ollie, Porsche cup is so hard but so much fun, I've been running a series for the past few weeks last race next week at Le Mans.
Keep up the good work.
to be fair he was a bit optimistic with that move
Feel free to overtake at any time.
That guy has all the gear but no idea
Lol na EFF that!! Like you said earn that shit proper!!💪💪
Fabulous race Ollie. ❤
You did nothing wrong there. He was driving fast, but desperate and he paid the price.
If could like this video more than once I would, great race, great driving, love the t camera view to, great of the passes ❤❤🎉🎉
Just press like an odd number of times ;)
Suspiciously faster on the straights though......
I was thinking the exact same...
Awesome videos and great job on the race
Mehmet, it’s called a motor RACE ok? 😂
Hot take; maybe the guy wanted to work together as a team to catch up to p1-p2. Using the tow to help make up the time
I feel like he was thinking of the bigger picture towards the end of the race and you already settled on keeping p3
Last lap incident was not on you. Mehmet didn't need to put his car there. Could have easily had you into the next corner if he went right instead of left.
I dunno... The last guy didn't have to go for the move.. I don't think that's your fault.
That final incident with Mehmet was not your fault, he was behind you and should have backed out. You're not responsible for that.
Bit of a daft question to be fair, nobody is entitled to tell someone to move or give up their position.
You can’t call him a bell end but we can
#5 needs to go back to driving school. Yes hes quick but reckless and complains when he dont get the pass that he thinks he should get
Been different if he'd have said wanna work together. I'll tow you to the leaders
Devils advocate. Its difficult because he is using preset messages. If he came on chat and said lets work together, I think I am faster, take my tow. Then its a different race. Maybe it was his intention. Then again maybe not😂
i bet without the message you would have let him passed and tucked in and tried to catch the leaders but after the message its game on i would defend all day then
Just because he goes for it doesn't mean you can't.
The opposing driver…does not impress me at all