@@connorhays3863 Both an encore and a reprise take place in one show. Since Siobhan and Rachel have both been replaced, it makes more sense to call this a revival with a new cast
Um Actually, they didn’t need the ingredients to reverse the curse in Into The Woods, the Witch could have done it at any time. She actually needed the ingredients for a potion to restore her youth.
@@missybarbour6885 in the song Your Fault, I remember the witch singing “it’s his father’s fault that the curse got placed and the place got cursed in the first place” which makes me think they mean the literal house when they’re talking about a place being cursed
@@blunderstruck1 The Witch, in the opening: "I laid a little spell on him / You too, son / That your family tree will always be a barren one". Which suggests it is the family, and not the house.
"Just to get things started, how about all of you give me brief, one-line biographies, just to, y'know, really tie in how foundational musicals have been in your lives." "I'm profoundly homosexual." "I'm profoundly bisexual." *"I'm Grant."*
Fun Fact! There were SO MANY INJURIES during the making of Starlight Express, especially when they made the transition from the practice room to the actual stage!
I was so confused this entire episode, because I thought that Grant was that guy that made those tiktoks about not knowing the lyrics to Musical Theatre songs. This is how I realized that Grant and Keith are two entirely different people...
Um actually, not only were "The Producers" and "Hairspray" movies that were made into musicals, they were also then made into movie adaptations of the musicals.
Glad to see the first few notes of "Wait for It" still set off my fight or flight response and it crushes me a bit nobody got it but I guess it has to counterbalance the pride in just a little bit of recognition for Little Shop of Horrors hell yeah
I was Rapunzel's Prince. My last major scene is described by the Narrator as I had fallen into a bramble of thorns and had my eyes gouged out. I was allowed to do my own makeup for the scene, and went full face-gore. I stumbled out onto stage during the narration, quietly sobbing with my hands over my face, and just at the moment Narrator says "eyes gouged out..." I revealed the sick, bloody mess to the audience and screamed bloody murder! At curtain call I was given a standing ovation. It really hit me in the feels. 😉 Best role I ever played. ... Next to Mercutio.
I've only seen Starlight Express once and they performed it on ICE. It was AMAZING to watch them move around. They didn't have a half pipe if I remember correctly but they did have a bridge that they could actually skate on. I absolutely adored the music in it. Still one of the coolest performances I've ever seen on ice.
I feel like Starlight Express as a concept works much better on ice than on roller-skates? Like I get that there's a lot of stunts that can be done on roller-skates but ice skating allows for a much grander form of choreography
Yes thank you, I was singing it to my screen and stumbled on that bit and corrected it in my head! That should have been a normal prompt, no one would’ve gotten it cause the lyric is all over the place but it would be a fun nitpicky correction.
Um, actually how the heck did Grant not earn that point? He said that Oscar Hammerstein wrote ‘Showboat’, and while technically not a complete answer, it’s a heck of a lot more correct than saying Rogers and Hart wrote it.
Um actually, the way this game works if you find something wrong, but if you aren't fully correct, its a toss up. If noone else gets it fully correct, you get the point as you found what was wrong
Starlight Express is actually considered one of the most dangerous shows ever put on Broadway. Between the regular wear and tear of being on roller skates for 2 1/2 hours, the halfpipes and insane moving racing set, they didn’t just get a pay bump. They straight up were entitled to hazard pay when OSHA inspected them. And considering the number of injuries each actor got in it’s comparatively short run, they earned it. Forget crooked part of the stage, the rising and falling starting gate would malfunction so that if it went wrong, actors could go plummeting dozens of feet (and at least one did that we know of). Thankfully touring version REAAAAALLY scaled it back.
I sang Eidelweiss at my grandmothers funeral because Sound of Music was hers and both her parents favorite movie. Two years later, my mom sang it to my nephew as a lullaby and it's still one of his favorite songs. I'm so grateful we have a sound clip of my mom singing it.
@@PanozGTR2 I know. I didn't say it was a nazi song. It is, however, very much white supremacist, so you won't be getting any points for that "correction".
@@CasparSG I feel like you're moving the goalposts on me here. You claimed it was about aryan supremacy, which is more specific than white supremacy. While a white supremacist may not be a Nazi, I think aryan supremacy is tied closely enough to German Nazism that I think I am justified in thinking that an aryan supremacist is a Nazi. With all that said, I do not see how it is "very much white supremacist" anyway. It's just about Austrian patriotism.
It's literally a song about the "Noble white". I went with 'Aryan' the first time, because of the Austrian roots. It is, indeed, a particular kind of white. A strong white, clean and bright. May it bloom and grow and bless the Austrian nation forever. You don't have to want to join the Germans to be a white supremacist prick. You can be anti-nazi and anti-war and still be a racist piece of shit who has to learn how to be nice to his family after some of them are pretty much already grown up. A guitar and a very lovely singing voice won't hide the fact that you're a bad person, herr Von Trapp.
Interestingly, they did add a pirate ship scene into "Cats," but instead of Cat Morgan, it was Asparagus the Theater Cat reminiscing about playing the ROLE of a pirate captain named Growl Tiger. (The Growl Tiger scene is cut from some versions of the play, though.)
Yeah, it was cut from the most recent version of Cats to be on broadway due to the portrayal of the Siamese cats, if I remember correctly. I was a bit disappointed that they cut that section, as I really enjoy that operatic bit they have in that song. But then I was also greatly disappointed in myself for using my limited amount of time in NYC to see Cats of all things, just to say I did so.
Yeah, it was cut and replaced with The Awefull Battle of the Pekes and the Pollicles. Which is good, because at 10 minutes of a long, unrelated (even for Cats) boring song, it was arguably the worst number in the show.😅
So generally speaking, if a song needed to be cut, at least from the sound track, it was either Growl Tiger or The Awful Battle of the Pekes and the Pollicles and I know this because as a kid I had the official Broadway Soundtrack which didn't have ABotBaP (though it was performed in the actual show) and then we found the British version which was missing Growl Tiger. We ultimately found the Australian sound track which had both (mom was very into music). More recently, from what I've seen, they've reworked the show to move ABotBaP to where Growl Tiger would be sung because of racist undertones in Growl Tiger. Honestly I think this is a terrible solution since Growl Tiger was a really great song and racists parts are not really the main focus so I feel with all the musical genius there is on Broadway, they could have reworked the song to remove the more racists elements and keep the original sequence in tact.
@@jfei64 Both are racist, technically. ABotPatP calls one breed of dog "a heathen Chinese", and GrowlTiger has similar anti-Chinese sentiment. T.S. Elliot had the racism many British did at that time, and his writing shows it. There are ways to do both ore respectfully, but how and which is up to the individual director. I still enjoy the music, rhyme scheme, and story of both, but I can see why some people cut one or the other- or both, sometimes.
Lindsay mentioned they never have seen Hamilton, so at least on that. And if Im correct Jeff mentioned that they knew more off Broadway shows so thats probably why Hamilton was missed easily
@@fdj4601 Funnily enough Lindsey’s made the most sense considering In the Heights is also written by LMM. And the clip they played probably sounds the most like it could fit into In the Heights
Um actually, Benny did promise Mark and Roger they didn’t need to pay rent, he’s reneging on the deal specifically because he knows they can’t afford it and he can leverage that into them stopping Maureen’s protest
Legal limit is a great concept! And Starlight Express is the only professional stage musical I've ever seen. I and some friends were very into rollerblades in their hay day, and one of us bought us all tickets. I really enjoyed it, and its always perplexed me how its dissed by other fans of musicals.
Um, Actually, the specific barricade sequence is based on a group of students who erected a barricade and was slaughtered by soldiers which Victor Hugo witnessed from a doorway. While not technically THE student rebellion, they were certainly rebelling students and it was put in by Victor Hugo in the novel because it had such a profound impact on him, and was then put in to the musical adaptation.
UM ACTUALLY! Into the Woods: the spell that required those ingredients did not lift the curse, it gave the Witch her youth again. The curse is undone because she loses her powers. Also--worth noting is that the witch cannot have touched any of the ingredients and that is why Rapunzel's hair won't work as an ingredient.
Um, actually: Les Mis - the musical - covers the June Rebellion - not the July Revolution. The July Revolution of 1830 installed the Orleans Dynasty and King Louis Phillippe of the French; the June Rebellion of 1832 was a Parisian attempt to remove Louis Phillippe from power, but it failed. So, if you has accepted the July Revolution you would have been chronologically and politically off the mark. July Revolution and June Rebellion were kind of asking for very different things: constitutional monarchy versus no monarchy at all.
Um actually, Louis Philippe being installed was the outcome of the July Revolution, but it was not the single desired outcome - Louis Philippe was in many ways a compromise. Some of those participating in the July days wanted to overthrow the monarchy altogether.
In addition to your Um, actually: Jeff said it was written by Rodgers and Hart, which is the completely wrong person in the duo. He shouldn't have gotten the point in the first place.
as a very low key musical fan (read: i really liked hamilton and casually listen to new musicals every so often) i feel like im learning so much about the actual plot of several classic musicals here
I can't find students mentioned in the June Rebellion online. Do you mean that the book wrote students into a rebellion that historically was not student fueled or are you just wrong?
@@mustlovebooknerd ok so the book wrote students into a rebellion that was historically not students led. The wiki article says The Friends of the ABC is fictional
I was fully prepared to write an "Um, actually" comment for the Starlight Express one, but he mentioned Control's mom as the second human character just in time. (Yes, the human child is only ever referred to as "Control") As an autistic person with special interests in Cats and StEx, I'm glad I was able to correctly answer both those questions before he even finished speaking. (For those curious, even though Cat Morgan isn't in the musical, some fans have adopted him into their headcanon.) (Also thank you whoever wrote that question for not using the word "train" to refer to a singular train car. It's totally valid shorthand, but a pet peeve for me.)
29:30 Um, actually he wasn’t Monsieur Madeleine, he was Mayor Madeleine on account of running under that alias and winning 35:41 Something Rotten also has an exclamation point in the title
I'm honestly not surprised that none of the drama nerds recognize the 1983 Def Leppard hit Rock of Ages, but really that's the point where the Saltzman should step in and tell them about it.
Um Actually: "has a question on starlight express" Me: "happy theatre kid noises" No seriously, its my favorite musical and it made me really happy hearing such an obscure musical being mentioned have a question. Yes, it is batshit insane and I love it.
"Rock of Ages" is a song by Def Leppard, and it totally would've fit in with the musical. I was really disappointed when I first saw the song list for the musical, and realized that it didn't include the song. Just assumed they couldn't secure the rights.
The intro with David Coverdale of Whitesnake specifically calls out that Def Leppard wouldn't give them the rights to any of their music. For me it's the most fun jukebox musical - it feels like being back at an 80s gig.
absolutely flabbergasted that no one got Wait For It from the Legal Limit portion. Sure, that's my favourite hamilton number and ive listened to it probably a hundred times, but still
I love how American it is to hear a song with (mostly) english lyrics and think "oh, yeah, that must be an Austrian folksong or even their national anthem"
Wait in the Wings has a great video about the craziness that was Starlight Express. I remember it because my dad saw it London and brought home the record (yeah, it's old), and I used to "skate" around on our floors dancing to it.
I really want you guys to get Liam O'Brien and Taliesin Jaffe from Critical Role on this show for the next theater/musical theater episode. They would be such fun. They have been known to talk to each other in musical code occasionally during the livestream. It's so sweet and endearing.
Um, Actually, the Sound of Music line featured in the Beatles' movie "Yellow Submarine" is NOT the first line of the titular song. The line featured in the movie is "The hills are alive." While this is the first line of the song in the SOM movie, it is not the first line of the song in the stage musical. In the stage version, the song begins with "My day in the hills has come to an end, I know."
The tick, tick, BOOM sub-point was such a shame because the fantastic movie version starring the incredibly talented Andrew Garfield, Vanessa Hudgens, and Alexandra Shipp must have come out after filming.
To be fair, the line they picked was a LOT of words REALLY fast. If they haven't listened to that song at least a few times over, it's pretty understandable that they wouldn't recognize the words without the tune😅
Yeah its sad that they didn’t do this episode after the year that tick tick boom came out cause they definitely wouldn’t have thought of it like that and someone would’ve gotten that point 100%
Why, Oh Why, are these taking so long to publish? I enjoy watching these with my son on Friday nights so we can Geek Out. Patiently waiting... Love your work.
Other musicals with exclamation points: Oliver! Hello Dolly! Disaster! Something Rotten! Also, On Your Feet! The story of Emilio &Gloria Estefan. Additionally, a show I had not heard of: Fiorello! I did have to google this
And also ride the cyclone, just want to put that out there. Also any starkid stuff (other that avpm) or even like dear Evan Hansen or something rotten. But honestly having a musical episode with Ride the Cyclone would be peak, it is my absolute fav musical right now
Grant isn't wrong about "Rent". I listened to the soundtrack a lot back in the day, but the music isn't great. Lyrics are catchy and the story was great at the time it was released, but the music is pretty average. It tries to make up for that by being very energetic and upbeat.
At the same time, I feel like you don't generally see that much negativity towards media in regular Um, Actually episodes? I haven't seen the whole series, but I can't recall anyone ever saying "God, I hate Game of Thrones" or "I can't stand Star Wars" and then going on about it at length without making it into a joke. It does actually bring the mood down, imho.
36:21 - Um, Actually, you don't need an apostrophe in the second incidence of 'round'. The first is indeed an abbreviation of 'around', but the second is not.
Wow, i can't believe i know the answer to a musical question. I am pretty sure the "into the woods" hair as yellow as corn is literally just the hair thingies on a corn cob.
Rock of ages is a hair rock song. I've seen it in concert. From the best hair rock band ever (fight me), Def Leppard. (Also to say you hate movie to musical adaptations is crazy because little shop started as a black and white non musical movie and was made into a musical, and little shop is wonderful)
feels weird to praise Grant, but hearing them criticize late capitalism, and make a plea to keep anarchism safe from the clutches of bad musical writers has given me a newfound respect for them
Uhm Actually, Grant says the only way to lift the spell is to collect the items, but the items weren't to lift the spell on The Baker's family. They were to reverse the curse on The Witch for losing her mother's beans, she lifted the curse in exchange for bringing her the ingredients.
In the last shiny I was like “I can do two but I have no clue if they were ever on Broadway” I looked it up and they both were. Mana Mia! And Something Rotten!
The opening four lines are from another poem, Rhapsody on a Windy Night, but the character of Grizabella and the bulk of the lyrics are from a poem cut from Practical Cats
Fun Fact: the musical that spurred the Mirvish theatres in Toronto to allow alcohol inside the theatres was "Evil Dead The Musical". Evil Dead pitched to Mirvish, Mirvish said "no we will not let people drink during your show", so Evil Dead said "okay cool screw you" and toured stadiums instead to great success (and loads of alcohol profits), and suddenly Mirvish changed their rules against drinking during shows.
Um actually my favorite things became a Christmas song through its extended life as a jazz standard, not directly through the popularity of the musical
8:07 BEFORE HE SAYS ANYTHING!!!! Into the Woods is one of my favorite musicals of all time and I was literally singing the lyrics quoted. The reason they can’t use Repunzel’s hair is because the witch touched it. She’s not allowed to touch any of the items she’s required the baker and his wife to fetch because the spell is for her. They feed the hair to Milky White, but she doesn’t produce milk. That’s until I believe the baker or his wife pulls out the corn they used to compare the hair to and feed the ear of the corn to Milky. ✌🏻🙏🏻 Into the Woods is SOOOOOO good. Comedy GOLD. ❤
Um actually, in the title song Rent they also say, "we're not going to pay next year's rent" so saying "they nail it down in the first song" is incorrect.
While I enjoy Rent and it’s a fun production to see, and definitely a staple of my youth, I strongly believe that a majority of the hype and success it got was because of the Death of Jonathan Larson the day it opened. The tragedy of that event made it a success and allowed a lot of forgiveness for its flaws, and hit people differently because they were also dealing with the shock and the grief of the loss of their friend. I can’t help but think if Larson had lived, Rent might have had a pretty good run, but would not have reached the overwhelming success it’s seen.
While I agree with the sentiment, it also brought a lot of younger audience members to the theater, people who likely wouldn't know about Larson prior to seeing the show, and while it is far from the first rock opera, it does seem to be considered a very important work in terms of bringing pop music styles to the Broadway stage. This may have been a simple snowball effect: Broadway fans are shocked by Larson's sudden death and therefore more forgiving of the shows flaws which help it becomes more popular and give it more exposure, which in turn means that more people who might otherwise not think of themselves as fans of traditional showtunes end up seeing the show and feeding that popularity loop. For this reason, while I agree it likely would not have had as long of a run as it did, I can imagine that it would still be considered largely influential, since if you remove the Broadway community itself pushing the show, there was still a potential for younger/less traditional audiences to be drawn in, creating that cycle all on their own. In fact, seeing as Larson had support from a number of well known Broadway creators, it's possible that theater fans would have just as eagerly talked the work up, in the way people do when they see well known talent supporting relative newcomers. I don't know if I explained that well, but basically I feel like while Larson's death definitely had an impact on how the show was initially reviewed and spoken about within the theater community, a lot of its impact as popular media ended up rising out of less traditional Broadway crowds. So if you could still create that initial success and word of mouth, you'd end up with a lot of the same fan reactions and popularity.
When I saw rock of ages in Vegas on of the members of Twisted Sister (I think it was Dee Snider) was sitting next to us in the audience. It was a great show!
Um, Actually, in the original stage production, there is no Cat Morgan BUT there IS a pirate cat. His name is Growltiger and I believe he is one of the roles Gus the theatre cat mentions playing and there’s a whole musical number about him that is a recreation of the story by the younger cats acting the story out. In the 1998 film of the stage show it was removed and instead we got the preformance of the Peeks and the Pollicales and in the 2019 live action atrocity, he was portrayed as a fully separate character who was keeping the catnapped cats away from the Jellicle hall for Macavity.
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Um Actually, this episode would be better compared to a revival rather then an encore
Or a Reprise?
@@connorhays3863 Both an encore and a reprise take place in one show. Since Siobhan and Rachel have both been replaced, it makes more sense to call this a revival with a new cast
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shit.. I wanted to like but you're at 666
Um Actually, it's 'than', not 'then'
Um Actually, they didn’t need the ingredients to reverse the curse in Into The Woods, the Witch could have done it at any time.
She actually needed the ingredients for a potion to restore her youth.
Oh this is a better point
Um Actually, The spell also wasn’t cast on the family but rather the house if I remember correctly
@@risottopose9970 "House" is a poetic way to say family. I come from the house of Barbour
@@missybarbour6885 in the song Your Fault, I remember the witch singing “it’s his father’s fault that the curse got placed and the place got cursed in the first place” which makes me think they mean the literal house when they’re talking about a place being cursed
@@blunderstruck1 The Witch, in the opening: "I laid a little spell on him / You too, son / That your family tree will always be a barren one". Which suggests it is the family, and not the house.
"Just to get things started, how about all of you give me brief, one-line biographies, just to, y'know, really tie in how foundational musicals have been in your lives."
"I'm profoundly homosexual."
"I'm profoundly bisexual."
*"I'm Grant."*
In keeping with the trend, of course.
Grant?! I thought that was Keith.
Fuck this.
I haven't even watched but I know Grant is gonna tell us about his musical backstories, possibly starting with 'when I lived in New York'
and imma gag every time
Fun Fact! There were SO MANY INJURIES during the making of Starlight Express, especially when they made the transition from the practice room to the actual stage!
So they should have known better by the time Spider-Man Turn off the Dark came around?
@@cbpd89 Exactly. Those stunts had no right being as dangerous as they were.
it’s so popular still in Germany that they had a specialized theater built for it, where they still do shows to this day
There are so many accidents that they actually incorporated fake accidents into the choreography - so audiences won't realise if it's staged or not
I was so confused this entire episode, because I thought that Grant was that guy that made those tiktoks about not knowing the lyrics to Musical Theatre songs. This is how I realized that Grant and Keith are two entirely different people...
There is a whole college humor video about this
Um Actually I watched a video of Grant singing for one of those with Keith
Um actually, not only were "The Producers" and "Hairspray" movies that were made into musicals, they were also then made into movie adaptations of the musicals.
Adaptception
This is where I took issue. Both were musicals that were made into stage productions, not just movies made into musicals.
I assumed that was going to be the correction. I was surprised it wasn't.
Same with Little shop of Horror
@@lynnhawkins952 The original Hairspray wasn’t a musical.
Glad to see the first few notes of "Wait for It" still set off my fight or flight response and it crushes me a bit nobody got it but I guess it has to counterbalance the pride in just a little bit of recognition for Little Shop of Horrors hell yeah
UM, ACTUALLY, there were many student uprisings in French history and the les mis 1832 rebellion is absolutely one of them
I was Rapunzel's Prince. My last major scene is described by the Narrator as I had fallen into a bramble of thorns and had my eyes gouged out. I was allowed to do my own makeup for the scene, and went full face-gore. I stumbled out onto stage during the narration, quietly sobbing with my hands over my face, and just at the moment Narrator says "eyes gouged out..." I revealed the sick, bloody mess to the audience and screamed bloody murder!
At curtain call I was given a standing ovation. It really hit me in the feels. 😉
Best role I ever played. ... Next to Mercutio.
that is so rad!! i would've loved to have seen it
Wait, how was that the last major scene you had? You had all of "Agony (reprise)" to go yet.
I've only seen Starlight Express once and they performed it on ICE. It was AMAZING to watch them move around. They didn't have a half pipe if I remember correctly but they did have a bridge that they could actually skate on. I absolutely adored the music in it. Still one of the coolest performances I've ever seen on ice.
After hearing about it my entire musical education, never having seen it, I'm convinced ALW wrote it during a fever dream.
I feel like Starlight Express as a concept works much better on ice than on roller-skates? Like I get that there's a lot of stunts that can be done on roller-skates but ice skating allows for a much grander form of choreography
um actually, Rock of Ages is both a hymn from the 1700s and a 80s Def Leppard song.
Yes! Yelling at my screen Def Leopard’s Rock of Ages. Maybe it’s my age, but thought it was common knowledge.
Not that this applies to the question, it's ALSO a 2012 movie and a video game
And it’s also (or at least it translates to) a Chanukah song called “Maoz Tzur”.
@@lancetruesdell7093 a video game that later got 2 sequels
@@lancetruesdell7093 The 2012 movie is a film adaptation of the musical, so it kind of applies to the question
I had to go listen to "Therapy" and now have an Um Actually: the end of that stanza is "you knew that I knew you adored me"
I was thinking the same thing
Yes thank you, I was singing it to my screen and stumbled on that bit and corrected it in my head! That should have been a normal prompt, no one would’ve gotten it cause the lyric is all over the place but it would be a fun nitpicky correction.
Um, actually how the heck did Grant not earn that point?
He said that Oscar Hammerstein wrote ‘Showboat’, and while technically not a complete answer, it’s a heck of a lot more correct than saying Rogers and Hart wrote it.
Um actually, the way this game works if you find something wrong, but if you aren't fully correct, its a toss up. If noone else gets it fully correct, you get the point as you found what was wrong
Um, actually, Trapp didn't say specifically someone had to be completely correct, or at least, not in this case. He just said, "more correct."
Starlight Express is actually considered one of the most dangerous shows ever put on Broadway. Between the regular wear and tear of being on roller skates for 2 1/2 hours, the halfpipes and insane moving racing set, they didn’t just get a pay bump. They straight up were entitled to hazard pay when OSHA inspected them.
And considering the number of injuries each actor got in it’s comparatively short run, they earned it.
Forget crooked part of the stage, the rising and falling starting gate would malfunction so that if it went wrong, actors could go plummeting dozens of feet (and at least one did that we know of).
Thankfully touring version REAAAAALLY scaled it back.
I sang Eidelweiss at my grandmothers funeral because Sound of Music was hers and both her parents favorite movie. Two years later, my mom sang it to my nephew as a lullaby and it's still one of his favorite songs. I'm so grateful we have a sound clip of my mom singing it.
Edelweiss is about aryan supremacy. Lovely theme for a funeral. Much better than using it as a lullaby.
@@CasparSG Um, actually, in the original context of the Sound of Music Edelweiss is anti-Nazi, not pro-Nazi.
@@PanozGTR2 I know. I didn't say it was a nazi song. It is, however, very much white supremacist, so you won't be getting any points for that "correction".
@@CasparSG I feel like you're moving the goalposts on me here. You claimed it was about aryan supremacy, which is more specific than white supremacy. While a white supremacist may not be a Nazi, I think aryan supremacy is tied closely enough to German Nazism that I think I am justified in thinking that an aryan supremacist is a Nazi.
With all that said, I do not see how it is "very much white supremacist" anyway. It's just about Austrian patriotism.
It's literally a song about the "Noble white". I went with 'Aryan' the first time, because of the Austrian roots. It is, indeed, a particular kind of white. A strong white, clean and bright. May it bloom and grow and bless the Austrian nation forever.
You don't have to want to join the Germans to be a white supremacist prick. You can be anti-nazi and anti-war and still be a racist piece of shit who has to learn how to be nice to his family after some of them are pretty much already grown up. A guitar and a very lovely singing voice won't hide the fact that you're a bad person, herr Von Trapp.
Um, actually, the 2015 Broadway musical Something Rotten! has an exclamation point in its title
I was very surprised none of them thought of Oliver!
I thought Oklahoma! And Something Rotten!, and that's it lmao
also Oliver!
Also Fiorello!
and Tick… Tick… Boom! which they reference earlier in the episode
Interestingly, they did add a pirate ship scene into "Cats," but instead of Cat Morgan, it was Asparagus the Theater Cat reminiscing about playing the ROLE of a pirate captain named Growl Tiger. (The Growl Tiger scene is cut from some versions of the play, though.)
Yeah, it was cut from the most recent version of Cats to be on broadway due to the portrayal of the Siamese cats, if I remember correctly. I was a bit disappointed that they cut that section, as I really enjoy that operatic bit they have in that song. But then I was also greatly disappointed in myself for using my limited amount of time in NYC to see Cats of all things, just to say I did so.
Yeah, it was cut and replaced with The Awefull Battle of the Pekes and the Pollicles. Which is good, because at 10 minutes of a long, unrelated (even for Cats) boring song, it was arguably the worst number in the show.😅
@@asexualbert7262 The show I saw back in the 80s had both the Pekes and Pollicles and Growl Tiger.
So generally speaking, if a song needed to be cut, at least from the sound track, it was either Growl Tiger or The Awful Battle of the Pekes and the Pollicles and I know this because as a kid I had the official Broadway Soundtrack which didn't have ABotBaP (though it was performed in the actual show) and then we found the British version which was missing Growl Tiger. We ultimately found the Australian sound track which had both (mom was very into music). More recently, from what I've seen, they've reworked the show to move ABotBaP to where Growl Tiger would be sung because of racist undertones in Growl Tiger. Honestly I think this is a terrible solution since Growl Tiger was a really great song and racists parts are not really the main focus so I feel with all the musical genius there is on Broadway, they could have reworked the song to remove the more racists elements and keep the original sequence in tact.
@@jfei64 Both are racist, technically. ABotPatP calls one breed of dog "a heathen Chinese", and GrowlTiger has similar anti-Chinese sentiment. T.S. Elliot had the racism many British did at that time, and his writing shows it. There are ways to do both ore respectfully, but how and which is up to the individual director. I still enjoy the music, rhyme scheme, and story of both, but I can see why some people cut one or the other- or both, sometimes.
I find it really odd that no one could guess the Hamilton sound bite.. Am I the only one that listened to the album on repeat! 🤣
I agree! I was very surprised none of them got that one!
@@dervlagrant9570 I think the anxiety bug got to them in the moment
Lindsay mentioned they never have seen Hamilton, so at least on that. And if Im correct Jeff mentioned that they knew more off Broadway shows so thats probably why Hamilton was missed easily
the guesses on that one were super wild, too, like hamilton is sonically nothing like spring awakening. MAYBE be more chill
@@fdj4601 Funnily enough Lindsey’s made the most sense considering In the Heights is also written by LMM. And the clip they played probably sounds the most like it could fit into In the Heights
Can't wait for more fierce competition, sing-alongs and Grant's backstories.
"when I lived in New York" -- Grant "Britta" O'Brien
This is why I love the Grant episodes of breaking news that are focused only on Grant stories a la shower dildo.
Um actually, Grant was more accurate than Lindsey, who said the French Revolution had not started yet, whereas Grant stated that it took place after
AND it involved students, I have no idea why "students had nothing to do with it" came up when that's historically untrue
Um actually, Benny did promise Mark and Roger they didn’t need to pay rent, he’s reneging on the deal specifically because he knows they can’t afford it and he can leverage that into them stopping Maureen’s protest
Legal limit is a great concept!
And Starlight Express is the only professional stage musical I've ever seen. I and some friends were very into rollerblades in their hay day, and one of us bought us all tickets. I really enjoyed it, and its always perplexed me how its dissed by other fans of musicals.
Um, Actually, the specific barricade sequence is based on a group of students who erected a barricade and was slaughtered by soldiers which Victor Hugo witnessed from a doorway. While not technically THE student rebellion, they were certainly rebelling students and it was put in by Victor Hugo in the novel because it had such a profound impact on him, and was then put in to the musical adaptation.
UM ACTUALLY! Into the Woods: the spell that required those ingredients did not lift the curse, it gave the Witch her youth again. The curse is undone because she loses her powers. Also--worth noting is that the witch cannot have touched any of the ingredients and that is why Rapunzel's hair won't work as an ingredient.
Love these comments!
Um, actually: Les Mis - the musical - covers the June Rebellion - not the July Revolution. The July Revolution of 1830 installed the Orleans Dynasty and King Louis Phillippe of the French; the June Rebellion of 1832 was a Parisian attempt to remove Louis Phillippe from power, but it failed. So, if you has accepted the July Revolution you would have been chronologically and politically off the mark. July Revolution and June Rebellion were kind of asking for very different things: constitutional monarchy versus no monarchy at all.
Um actually, Louis Philippe being installed was the outcome of the July Revolution, but it was not the single desired outcome - Louis Philippe was in many ways a compromise. Some of those participating in the July days wanted to overthrow the monarchy altogether.
Um, actually, Show Boat was written by Hammerstein and Jerome Kern, meaning Grant was 100% correct in his guess and actually deserved the point.
In addition to your Um, actually: Jeff said it was written by Rodgers and Hart, which is the completely wrong person in the duo. He shouldn't have gotten the point in the first place.
as a very low key musical fan (read: i really liked hamilton and casually listen to new musicals every so often) i feel like im learning so much about the actual plot of several classic musicals here
Um, actually the June Rebellion in the novel WAS a student uprising, and they owe Grant that point.
I can't find students mentioned in the June Rebellion online. Do you mean that the book wrote students into a rebellion that historically was not student fueled or are you just wrong?
@@shireads2954 In the book and the musical, Marius, Enjolras, and most of the rebels are students.
@@shireads2954 reference: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends_of_the_ABC
@@mustlovebooknerd ok so the book wrote students into a rebellion that was historically not students led. The wiki article says The Friends of the ABC is fictional
Lindsay!! I love them so much! Glad to see them on the show
As a practically lifelong AH fan, seeing Lindsay on the show was a very welcome surprise. Would love to see her back in more of y'alls content.
I was fully prepared to write an "Um, actually" comment for the Starlight Express one, but he mentioned Control's mom as the second human character just in time. (Yes, the human child is only ever referred to as "Control") As an autistic person with special interests in Cats and StEx, I'm glad I was able to correctly answer both those questions before he even finished speaking. (For those curious, even though Cat Morgan isn't in the musical, some fans have adopted him into their headcanon.) (Also thank you whoever wrote that question for not using the word "train" to refer to a singular train car. It's totally valid shorthand, but a pet peeve for me.)
29:30 Um, actually he wasn’t Monsieur Madeleine, he was Mayor Madeleine on account of running under that alias and winning
35:41 Something Rotten also has an exclamation point in the title
Um actually, Mike's readings of lyrics are far from being low on affect and rhythm. I find them quite lovely!
I'm honestly not surprised that none of the drama nerds recognize the 1983 Def Leppard hit Rock of Ages, but really that's the point where the Saltzman should step in and tell them about it.
Um Actually: "has a question on starlight express"
Me: "happy theatre kid noises"
No seriously, its my favorite musical and it made me really happy hearing such an obscure musical being mentioned have a question. Yes, it is batshit insane and I love it.
I’ve never jumped as excitedly as I did when they referenced Tick Tick Boom!
thank you not for only appeasing the inner musical theater nerd in us but also producing yet another great episode of um actually
"Rock of Ages" is a song by Def Leppard, and it totally would've fit in with the musical. I was really disappointed when I first saw the song list for the musical, and realized that it didn't include the song. Just assumed they couldn't secure the rights.
The intro with David Coverdale of Whitesnake specifically calls out that Def Leppard wouldn't give them the rights to any of their music.
For me it's the most fun jukebox musical - it feels like being back at an 80s gig.
absolutely flabbergasted that no one got Wait For It from the Legal Limit portion. Sure, that's my favourite hamilton number and ive listened to it probably a hundred times, but still
I'm so happy they mentioned Assassin's!!! It is my favorite musical and not enough people know about it.
Oh hey, an old, COVID-times Um Actually episode I _don't_ remember, and it's musical-themed to boot!
This musical episode is so much better than the first! The questions are much less obscure, so I could actually play along!
I love how American it is to hear a song with (mostly) english lyrics and think "oh, yeah, that must be an Austrian folksong or even their national anthem"
Wait in the Wings has a great video about the craziness that was Starlight Express. I remember it because my dad saw it London and brought home the record (yeah, it's old), and I used to "skate" around on our floors dancing to it.
I'm super impressed that they got Freddie Mercery to be the third contestant in this episode!
I'm really impressed that Matt Mercer had a child with Freddie Mercury 🤣
I really want you guys to get Liam O'Brien and Taliesin Jaffe from Critical Role on this show for the next theater/musical theater episode. They would be such fun. They have been known to talk to each other in musical code occasionally during the livestream. It's so sweet and endearing.
Um, Actually, the Sound of Music line featured in the Beatles' movie "Yellow Submarine" is NOT the first line of the titular song. The line featured in the movie is "The hills are alive." While this is the first line of the song in the SOM movie, it is not the first line of the song in the stage musical. In the stage version, the song begins with "My day in the hills has come to an end, I know."
The tick, tick, BOOM sub-point was such a shame because the fantastic movie version starring the incredibly talented Andrew Garfield, Vanessa Hudgens, and Alexandra Shipp must have come out after filming.
To be fair, the line they picked was a LOT of words REALLY fast. If they haven't listened to that song at least a few times over, it's pretty understandable that they wouldn't recognize the words without the tune😅
Yeah its sad that they didn’t do this episode after the year that tick tick boom came out cause they definitely wouldn’t have thought of it like that and someone would’ve gotten that point 100%
Why, Oh Why, are these taking so long to publish? I enjoy watching these with my son on Friday nights so we can Geek Out. Patiently waiting... Love your work.
You are very polite
Other musicals with exclamation points: Oliver! Hello Dolly! Disaster! Something Rotten! Also, On Your Feet! The story of Emilio &Gloria Estefan. Additionally, a show I had not heard of: Fiorello! I did have to google this
Um, actually, I'm still hoping for questions about Six, Hadestown, and Beetlejuice the Musical
Yessssssssss
And also ride the cyclone, just want to put that out there. Also any starkid stuff (other that avpm) or even like dear Evan Hansen or something rotten. But honestly having a musical episode with Ride the Cyclone would be peak, it is my absolute fav musical right now
I don't know that there's ever been an Um, Actually where I've screamed as loudly and fervently at contestants for not knowing answers.
Honestly same. I'm not the most in the weeds with musicals in general, but the song clip ones especially. HOW DID NONE OF THEM KNOW HAMILTON???
@@UchihaKat Because it's dogshit?
Love seeing Lindsay on here, I appreciate them going for 3 on the challenge question even though they were uncertain. Agent of chaos ftw!
This episode should have been called Musicals (Reprise). Then the next should have been called Musicals Encore
I feel we were cheated of a sing off to break the tie. OK, I know the show never normally has tie breaks but this is *BROADWAY* (Jazz Hands)!
Um, actually there is a rock song by Def Leppard called "Rock of Ages." Released in 1983 on their Pyromania album.
Grant isn't wrong about "Rent". I listened to the soundtrack a lot back in the day, but the music isn't great. Lyrics are catchy and the story was great at the time it was released, but the music is pretty average. It tries to make up for that by being very energetic and upbeat.
At the same time, I feel like you don't generally see that much negativity towards media in regular Um, Actually episodes? I haven't seen the whole series, but I can't recall anyone ever saying "God, I hate Game of Thrones" or "I can't stand Star Wars" and then going on about it at length without making it into a joke. It does actually bring the mood down, imho.
@@wellstiscool The Marvel one got pretty negative honestly, which was weird considering at least one of the people there *wrote* Marvel comics.
Good thing they've improved it for the movie adaptation then.
I'm so so happy to see Lindsay in this, they are one of my favorite online personalities :)
36:21 - Um, Actually, you don't need an apostrophe in the second incidence of 'round'.
The first is indeed an abbreviation of 'around', but the second is not.
Yay!! It’s Lindsay, I love them! Super excited for them and musicals!
Wow, i can't believe i know the answer to a musical question. I am pretty sure the "into the woods" hair as yellow as corn is literally just the hair thingies on a corn cob.
Rock of ages is a hair rock song. I've seen it in concert. From the best hair rock band ever (fight me), Def Leppard. (Also to say you hate movie to musical adaptations is crazy because little shop started as a black and white non musical movie and was made into a musical, and little shop is wonderful)
feels weird to praise Grant, but hearing them criticize late capitalism, and make a plea to keep anarchism safe from the clutches of bad musical writers has given me a newfound respect for them
Jeff Hiller was in one of my favorite underappreciated musicals Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson. He played John Quincy Adam’s. So good.
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Although the song choices in across the universe were predictable it was such a great movie both visually and emotionally and that can't be denied
Uhm Actually, Grant says the only way to lift the spell is to collect the items, but the items weren't to lift the spell on The Baker's family. They were to reverse the curse on The Witch for losing her mother's beans, she lifted the curse in exchange for bringing her the ingredients.
In the last shiny I was like “I can do two but I have no clue if they were ever on Broadway” I looked it up and they both were. Mana Mia! And Something Rotten!
I needed this, thank you
Um, actually, Rock of Ages was a Hanukkah song before it was sung during Christmas. It goes by the original Hebrew title of Ma’O Tzur.
I also thought of maoz tzur but wasn’t sure I was right
Lindsay gives me serious Jenna Marbles vibes (who is NUMBER ONE on my bisexual lady hall pass list) and I want her to be my friend.
Um actually, Lindsay's pronouns are they/them
Um actually, Grizzabella wasn't from an unpublished draft of Practical Cats but was from a completely different Elliot poem altogether.
Ah so practical cats must have been produced during a single acid trip and accidentally published, that makes more sense
The opening four lines are from another poem, Rhapsody on a Windy Night, but the character of Grizabella and the bulk of the lyrics are from a poem cut from Practical Cats
Ah yes! So hyped to have another musicals episode!
I think "brown paper packages tied up with string" refers to shopping purchases or mail/post parcels.
When they had the exclamation point round, I was screaming FAME! at the screen
Fun Fact: the musical that spurred the Mirvish theatres in Toronto to allow alcohol inside the theatres was "Evil Dead The Musical". Evil Dead pitched to Mirvish, Mirvish said "no we will not let people drink during your show", so Evil Dead said "okay cool screw you" and toured stadiums instead to great success (and loads of alcohol profits), and suddenly Mirvish changed their rules against drinking during shows.
What’s funny is that Tick Tick Boom song is probably now more known to non-musical nerds because of the movie than any other song on that list
the ONE and only um actually i've been able to play along with.
Another musical with an exclamation point at the end is Something Rotten!
"Rock of Ages" is a reference to the Queen song "Brighton Rock" which is also not featured in the Rock of Ages Musical.
I KNEW it was a reference to a Queen song!
These are introducing me to musicals I've never heard of. Um, actually, I love this series
Um Actually, Rock of Ages is more than an old hymm. As it is an example of a a Jewish liturgical poem, the correct term for it would be piyyut.
Um actually my favorite things became a Christmas song through its extended life as a jazz standard, not directly through the popularity of the musical
The way I would've won that shiny question with Oklahoma! and Moulin Rouge! The Musical
8:07 BEFORE HE SAYS ANYTHING!!!! Into the Woods is one of my favorite musicals of all time and I was literally singing the lyrics quoted. The reason they can’t use Repunzel’s hair is because the witch touched it. She’s not allowed to touch any of the items she’s required the baker and his wife to fetch because the spell is for her. They feed the hair to Milky White, but she doesn’t produce milk. That’s until I believe the baker or his wife pulls out the corn they used to compare the hair to and feed the ear of the corn to Milky. ✌🏻🙏🏻 Into the Woods is SOOOOOO good. Comedy GOLD. ❤
Um actually, my favourite things references sleighbells in the second verse which is associated with santa
Um actually, in the title song Rent they also say, "we're not going to pay next year's rent" so saying "they nail it down in the first song" is incorrect.
I don't know anything on any other episode but I am KILLING this one, I am a true theatre nerd.
Um actually the ingredients aren’t to break the curse, they’re to make a youth spell for the witch so that she takes back the curse she set.
um, actually the sound of music features the lyric "Doorbells and sleighbells and schnitzel with noodles." sleighbells sound rather Christmasy to me.
Sleighs just mean snow.
Between Ify and Lindsay we really need more Rooster Teeth/ Achievement Hunter crossover for Um, Actually. They always kill it!
That dude in rent trying make his name off homeless people while not having paid his rent for a full fucking year drives me insane
While I enjoy Rent and it’s a fun production to see, and definitely a staple of my youth, I strongly believe that a majority of the hype and success it got was because of the Death of Jonathan Larson the day it opened. The tragedy of that event made it a success and allowed a lot of forgiveness for its flaws, and hit people differently because they were also dealing with the shock and the grief of the loss of their friend. I can’t help but think if Larson had lived, Rent might have had a pretty good run, but would not have reached the overwhelming success it’s seen.
While I agree with the sentiment, it also brought a lot of younger audience members to the theater, people who likely wouldn't know about Larson prior to seeing the show, and while it is far from the first rock opera, it does seem to be considered a very important work in terms of bringing pop music styles to the Broadway stage. This may have been a simple snowball effect: Broadway fans are shocked by Larson's sudden death and therefore more forgiving of the shows flaws which help it becomes more popular and give it more exposure, which in turn means that more people who might otherwise not think of themselves as fans of traditional showtunes end up seeing the show and feeding that popularity loop.
For this reason, while I agree it likely would not have had as long of a run as it did, I can imagine that it would still be considered largely influential, since if you remove the Broadway community itself pushing the show, there was still a potential for younger/less traditional audiences to be drawn in, creating that cycle all on their own. In fact, seeing as Larson had support from a number of well known Broadway creators, it's possible that theater fans would have just as eagerly talked the work up, in the way people do when they see well known talent supporting relative newcomers. I don't know if I explained that well, but basically I feel like while Larson's death definitely had an impact on how the show was initially reviewed and spoken about within the theater community, a lot of its impact as popular media ended up rising out of less traditional Broadway crowds. So if you could still create that initial success and word of mouth, you'd end up with a lot of the same fan reactions and popularity.
Brightens my Friday seeing these post!
When I saw rock of ages in Vegas on of the members of Twisted Sister (I think it was Dee Snider) was sitting next to us in the audience. It was a great show!
Um, Actually, in the original stage production, there is no Cat Morgan BUT there IS a pirate cat. His name is Growltiger and I believe he is one of the roles Gus the theatre cat mentions playing and there’s a whole musical number about him that is a recreation of the story by the younger cats acting the story out. In the 1998 film of the stage show it was removed and instead we got the preformance of the Peeks and the Pollicales and in the 2019 live action atrocity, he was portrayed as a fully separate character who was keeping the catnapped cats away from the Jellicle hall for Macavity.
What did Grant say to introduce himself that was just straight up cut? lol
Beautiful was such a great Jukebox musical!
Um actually, as a Def Leppard fan they did make a song called Rock Of Ages and it’s great. It was released on the Pyromania album in 1983
Would love a history themed um actually, perhaps guesting John green?