DF Retro X Modern: Okami HD Hits Switch! All Console Versions Tested!
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Note: One small error at 10:41 - the PS4 Pro label is mistakenly used when it should say PS2 instead. Apologies for the confusion!
Fancy a little bonus DF Retro? Okami HD is heading to Switch - as good an excuse as any for John to check out all the major console versions, including the mysterious '4K' PlayStation 3 release! All of the ports have their plus points and you can see them all in action here.
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Damn, another re-release of okami. I hope they keep re-releasing it until everyone can play sutch a classic because this is one game that deserves it.
amen brother
It truly is! I played it entirely on PS3 about two years ago.
Such an amazing and beautiful experience, one of my favourites on almost 20 years of gaming i have 😊
I almost cried when it ended, after the 50 hours the campaign took i even wanted more.
Ya, I own two copies of this game already on PS2 and 3 but never played all the way through.
Alexa!!! play Okami Full HD DEFINITIVE ULTRA DELUXE AND KNUCKLES Edition!!!
Jason U Imo, it's a story and a game. Not darksouls.
13:48 "Is Okami still worth playing today?"
100% yes!
This is an absolute masterpiece that shouldn't be missed by any self respecting gamer.
One of my all time favorite games. Played this so much when it was new on the PS2. One of the greatest action adventure games to date
I had played it on PS3
Such a unique and wonderful game
Gebaseerd
still one of the most beautiful games ever made.
*Reset starts playing*
Yep, here come the tears
Poofter.
12:33 - The Wii port isn't one of the HD versions. As for the controls, I actually loved them. Well, the combat was too waggle heavy, but I loved drawing in the Wii port.
720p is technically HD and the Wii can do that resolution with component cables.
Izicial No, it can only do 480i and 480p. I think you’re confusing the raw output (720x480) as an HD Resolution.
The trick when using motion/gyro to draw lines is to swipe across fast, not slow.
On wii you could press a button to keep lines straight while painting. Is that still present?
PunchKickBlog what? You can? HOW?
I was thinking that as well
Summoner Arthur you pressed the Z button on the Nunchuk of the wii, the same rule applies on the switch by pressing the L button in the left joycon
Dude, this is exactly what I was looking for. Just bought it during a sale on the Switch, wanted to see a comparison. Nicely done.
lol same here, it's half price right now.
This game got me through some tough times in my life and it will forever hold a special place in my heart. Easily one of the greatest games of all time and the most underrated.
I'm glad it did :) so true!!
Probably, my biggest issue with the HD version is that it retains the draw distance/LOD settings from older versions so you see stuff pop up few meters away from you which becomes rather distracting.
Klarden Hexadrive actually increased that load distance over the Ps2/Wii versions for the Ps3. It's still not far enough, I'll agree with you. But if you go back and play the SD games, it's noticibly better. I believe there's a video out there floating around that compares the load distance stuff too, if you are interested.
Curious. I wonder if they pushed it as far as the engine could do it without running into other issues
That's what I think too, that draw pop up on switch puts me off a bit, while I play it. Wondering whether to emulate PS2 version would be a better idea
I really like the pace in John's videos. English is not my native language but I can understand every word he's saying
yeah he and his passion for vg as art are the best
The Switch version might be the best way to play this game, because touch screen and how this game's combat almost entirely revolves around drawing!
RIP, PS Vita
It's definitely better, but PC/PS4 still reigns supreme, this game deserves a stutter free experience.
Touch imo is the best control for a drawing mechanic in just about any game, mouse comes second, gyro third, and analog stick is fourth, IR sensor (like with what the Wii had) is fifth, d-pad/arrow keys is sixth. Of course when it comes to _aiming_ on the other hand, mouse and touch trade places.
Seems like it barely happens & is barely noticeable. Okami on the go is gonna be amazing, gonna get the physical.
except the bad switch performance.
@@name5748 not ps2?? some dude posted on reddit:...Okami has been ported to a ridiculous number of consoles at this point, but only the original PS2 game includes the paper "shader" (technically it wasn't a shader, but if modern consoles wanted to implement it that's what they'd use) that made it look like a sumi-e painting, rather than the cartoonish brightness of later ports, and it really does make a difference.
Clover was the best studio on the planet in their day. It's a shame their games did not sell well. I love their titles, especially the Viewtiful Joe games and Okami.
Jeremy Seal They still exist as Platinum Games, many people who worked at Clover work there now.
Surprised you didn't mention, the option for the Wii like motion controls was also available on the PS3 version with PS Move supported. For me the versatility of controller options make it the best version.
lostboy626 Therefore the Switch is the best version all around
Heh, that's something I DID NOT realize, actually. Never tried it with the Move!
Daniel Guiterrez - I suppose, generally speaking on console. I haven't played a Switch at all so I can only go off of what he said in the video about the motion controls of the Switch not being as accurate, nor do I want to play in portable mode for touch options. Best version sounds like it would be the PC since you can draw with the mouse and get 4K. But I rarely play on PC, don't have new hardware anyway, so it's not exactly an option for me.
Also I believe the PS4 version lets you draw with the touchpad
asxciie - I read this too, I'm glad they did, but the touchpad is a bit too small for me to draw accurately. Hmm... too bad the Wii U didn't get a port before it died out. I think the touchscreen would have been great and get similar performance to the PS3/Switch, plus still use the touchpad while playing on your TV.
There weren't a lot of cel shaded AAA games this gen.
Manofthehalfhour mah realism
Maybe if Sly Cooper comes back... We'll see.
If you could get Ubisoft to make a XIII remaster i would happily buy it.
wasn't breath of the wild cel-shaded
I wouldn't describe this game as AAA, it was created by less than 25 people.
The PS2 version stacked against Wii is fascinating because this sort of celshading in tandem with lots of post-processing was simply allowing the PS2's bandwidth and fill rate strengths - one of its key advantages - to run wild, whereas the Wii simply does not have this sort of fillrate or *48GB/s* GPU bandwidth. Very interesting game.
PS3 version is also fascinating because of the 4K claim, but I would argue it doesn't even matter since 4x MSAA at 1080p in any capacity is great and is difficult to distinguish from a game actually running at 3840x2160 downsampled anyway.
So glad this game is finally on a touch device. Best on Switch imho.
I completely missed this game! Thank’s DF for the great analysis and bringing it to my attention.
They keep re-releasing this over and over, yet not Viewtiful Joe... That game as aged damn well too, it's still a great side scroller beat em up. Ps2 has that nice paper look to it, shame they removed it.
I once scrolled through PS Store PS2 Classics and I was baffled. they added shitty games like Chess-the-frick-you-want (I made this up) and left out many great games. why that is will never be known.
My all time favourite game - Love how DF touched on How the art style is so intrinsic to the gameplay and core mechanics. Absolutely Spot-on.
A game based heavily on a Japenese Ink line art style. And your aim of the game? Learn how to banish evil by learning new ink based brush strokes.
I love this game and this video made me want to replay it, again.
thankyou.
is okami still ok to play ?
okami will be one of the most playable immersive and beautiful games even in 1 million years from now.
Excellent work, DF!
Thanks so much for all your hard work in making this video! Helped me make an informed decision.
100%ed the PS2 original a year or two ago, and it holds up fully even today! A timeless must play classic!!!!
The Prince Of Persia 2008's game art design was so much influenced by this game. That game is still beautiful and gave me many wallpapers.
This game is godlike.
Well you *are* literally playing as the goddess of the universe.
I see what you did there ;)
Don't you mean kami-like? Heheh.
Well and truly one of the most unique and enjoyable games I've ever played. I started on the ps2 as a kid and never fully appreciated it but just finished it on the PC as a grown-up and what a masterpiece it is!
Excellent review! Good to know that this masterpiece received the treatment it deserves in most of the ports.
So happy my father bought me this gem as a kid. The first time I started to play it I didn't continue after the first few hours. But when I gave it a second chance it became what may be my favourite game of all time. A PS2 game I finished playing when the PS4 was almost released! Quite impressive.. Great to see these gorgeous hd ports!
One of the best "Zelda" games I've played. Was a pleasure playing this on Wii shortly after completing Twilight Princess, especially with all the wolf sections. Funny that Okami released before Twilight Princess, wonder if one inspired the other.
Glad Capcom clings to this game and rereleased it on almost every modern platform these days.
Wish Okamiden could also see some kind of rerelease.
9:58 Definitive version footage right there.
It doesn't beg the question; it raises the question. Those mean entirely different things.
I'm tempted to get the Switch version just for the touchscreen controls despite already having it for Wii, PS3, and PC :/
Luigi is dead
Allwin Luke No he's not
Death got him good
That was horrifying lol.
Kind Dedede also got fucking murdered on stream
What’s up with Smash Ultimate and characters fucking dying
I could watch videos of this game all day. It is gorgeous. A perfect example of video games as art.
Always enjoy all your effort you put into these. I already bought it digitally on sale on Xbox One, but I'm also importing the Switch version since I don't wanna be stuck owning the game on 2 different consoles.
Are the achievements still broke on Xbox One?
For anyone who has never played the game before it is definitely still worth playing today. No excuse. It’s available on all current formats.
XgamerdaveX Plus It’s real cheap compared to other modern games.
I must say, even being a mini DF Retro episode, I'm surprised you didn't bring up PS2 emulation at all. You mention several times that the original PS2 version is only let down by the internal resolution, so emulation seems like a great solution. Maybe I'm missing something? Is it not compatible? I'd love to hear from you (John) as to how this may or may not work and if it would change your rankings.
I played the ps3 version before the hd rerelease on pc and current gen console,its a marvelous game on ps3 with the cleanest image quality on ps3 imo. Apart some framerate drops in some fights it was an amazing experience
I'll buy it again, it's that good. This is one of my favorite games from childhood, I just wished Rogue Galaxy could receive similar love.
But Rogue Galaxy received a PS4 HD Port... And I'm very sure it was already out when you wrote that comment.
Based on this video it seems like the PS2 original is the best looking version, that ethereal glow effect is beautiful, really makes the game feel like a divine fable.
Okami 2 please. I can only play this game so many times.
Okamiden is the direct sequel to Okami. 🤦♂️
Okami Hd was designed for the Wii U.
Switching from Tv to Gamepad to freeze the scene with L and paintbrush with stylus/finger.
Touchscreen [°■°] + Big screen Tv ♥. Would have been the BEST version ever.
My greatest regret.
Actually no, Okami came out before the WiiU was even a concept. So it wasnt designed for the wiiU.
E M I think what he's saying is that it would make a perfect Wii U port, not that it was specifically developed around it.
@@rickylovesyou OP stated Okami *HD*
Excellent video as always, I'm waiting for my copy of Okami on the Switch from Japan as I wanna have the physical release.
Do an analysis on Valkyria Chronicles 4 on PS4 and Switch since the demo dropped recently!
Best youtube channel with the worst comment section
No kidding. Many of these comments are garbage.
Can't we have a comparison video without people calling their preferences "trash"?
Like most quality channels, they manage to pull in the 12 year olds and toxic crowd.
In 10:42 you put "PS4 Pro" when it´s PS2. i don´t think Ps4 Pro looks worse than Switch :p
Paqui10 true. I notice that too.
Ha, good catch. Juggling all those labels sometimes makes my head spin. Ah well.
You mean the blurstation protato 4? lelelelelelelelelel
@@MrGreatDane2 I really hate this comment and the way you wrote it. So irritating ;(
@@DuckAlertBeats I was mostly joking don't worry
Let’s be honest okami for the Wii wasn’t a hd port.
Moultonlava Gaming I was thinking the same thing lol
Maybe because it is 480p widescreen and some people call it HD when in truth it's ED...
Wii can't even do HD, the lowest HD level start from 720p.
Wii only capable of doing 480p SD resolution as the highest, the ps2 is around 320p but a selected games managed to reach 480p and very few games got the option to go up to 1080i, Gran Turismo 4, Gran Turismo TT, Jak 2, Jak 3, God of War 1 God of War 2, Ape Escape 3, Tekken Tag Tournament.
@@SpookySkellyGurl
you mean the ps2 games that was released on the ps4 with trophies support?
those are not really running 1080p, they were up scaled to 1080p or should I say checkerboard 1080p using a similar methods the ps4 pro doing with games by doing checkerboard rendering to 4K.
even if they're running at 1080p the textures on these old classics are still the SD res textures.
So let's correct some things: Wii is EDTV capable, SDTV is 240p/480i 15,75Hz, 480p is 31,50Hz which is not the same. PS2 is ED/HDTV capable but not even 10% of it's library are compatible, but you can force it to more games using homebrew, but it's mostly 448i. And like i said before 480p is somewhat considered as HDTV because you need one to enable it after all. And in no moment he says the Wii is an HD Remaster, he clearly says it is just a port. Oh, almost forgot, HD starts at 540p or even lower as some PS3/360 games have show us.
This game is and always will be a masterpiece.
SANIC
Best girl
Tommaso Galdi Getta Gur Fest.
Ive bought this game 3 times and yesterday made it my fourth. By far the best way to play the game.
Okami doesn't use cel shading, it just has black outlines, which is not a feature of cel shading (which is a well defined technical lighting model, so it's not a case of opinion).
Wind Waker is cel shading, notice it has no outlines but has the stepped lighting of cel shading. Borderlands is an example of a game that does not use cel shading but is commonly mistakenly described as cel shaded.
I’ve bought this game at full price, several times over several consoles and versions over the years…. and still feel that I’ve gotten amazing value.
That’s how absolutely incredible this classic is!
The music is phenomenal, and that alone allows you to replay the game once more. Though, Reset is no longer provided for people to listen to.
@@jujuba2022ap - Really? I was thinking the one playing on tye PS2.
Never actually heard of this game till now, so thank you for I guess reviewing/analysing this, definitely a game I would love to try, don't get much games these days like this
I love it when you guys put so much effort into covering amazing games, and this is one of the finest example. Thank you!
Seriously. I'm like "not gonna be lazy and just watch one video" but the one I watch is so goddamn informative to the point of watering down the need! (Gonna research on the web for more details on controls though)
Have the PS2, PS4 and now waiting for the Switch version. This game is artistically beautiful from an amazing talented team that used to be clover studios.
Yes! So excited to hear this runs well on the Switch. I'm picking this up. I have the Wii version but didn't play it because I didn't enjoy the control scheme.
Okami has been a game I have had my eye on since it came out on PS2 I think. Saw it in a gaming magazine. Sprung for it on sale for Switch yesterday. Feels like I went with the right version. Being able to draw with the touch screen is just what the game needs.
Exquisite quality content as always, John, you beautiful boy! Love you!
We need a new Viewtiful Joe...
Dood_Sanshiro..... Now you're talking. That was so good on ganecube..
You’re 21 prononciation is nearly perfect!
God hand :')
I love it!
LE0NSKA everyone did :')
GOD I wish they would give a multi-platform remaster of that game.
@@Armataan I just wish They make a remaster for god hand and make a sequel god hand 2
I’ve honestly never got to play Okami, I’ve always wanted to but never ended up getting it. So this will actually be my first time playing it and I’m super excited!
a very artsy review for what seems like a very artsy game! really enjoyed this thank u for the info. gonna get it on switch but wish i could play on a PS2 with a CRT for my first play through!
The PS3 version might still be the best. If you don't go for 4K, it still has top-tier image quality, it reads pressure sensitive input for the brush so you can adjust thickness on-the-go while drawing. It adds more fun to this quite crucial feature of the game. You can also use PS Move motion controllers. PS4 version and all recent ports lack all of these I believe. Correct me if I'm mistaken but I think Switch doesn't even have pressure-sensitive triggers, while with the Dual Shock 3 every single button was pressure-sensitive.
Again, the "best" version is not simply the most graphically consistent. The touch-screen drawing adds +10 points to the Switch version's favour, where not having tiny imperceptible drops of 1 frame per second (lol) is like +1 point in the other consoles' favour. So basically the Xbox version is the worst because unlike the PS4, Switch, or PC, there isn't a fast and accurate option for the celestial brush.
A bit odd that you forget to mention the touchscreen benefits of the Switch version in the summary, that's certainly something that could definitely be a selling point over the One X/PS4 Pro versions... I'd gladly take that over slightly sharper image quality, which you didn't neglect to point out as a selling point over the Switch version.
You can use the touchpad on the PS4 controller, if that counts?
I've been meaning to try this game for years and never purchased it for whatever reason and I recently found out that there's a physical copy of this on Switch in Japan that has English subtitles, so I imported it. After seeing this, I'm actually kind of glad I chose the Switch version. I already like the option of playing on the go, prefer physical to digital, and prefer carts to discs, however, after watching this, it seems the Switch version holds up very well to the other versions in the visuals and performance areas which makes me very satisfied.
The visuals and music make this game even better.
Thanks! Needed this to decide which version i should buy!
Been waiting for an analysis of all versions of this game
14:48 HA didn't know DF Retro used the Sega Saturn splash screen audio for their logo. Very nice!
7:55 what’s very annoying about not being able to skip cutscenes is that this option WAS offered in the original PS2, but only in a New Game+ file! Why they did this we will never know.
I've been looking forward to trying this game out on the Switch (since I've heard nothing but good things), and I'm glad to hear the port isn't garbage.
It's funny that your least favorite port is the Wii version, because that's how I experienced the game first and until the 4K ports was my favorite version. I still prefer the Wii motion controls to a controller so I'm interested to see how the Switch version holds up
J.R. Stevens I found the Wii controls infuriating at times. Shaking the Wiimote to attack was very inaccurate. That said, I managed to finish it on Wii and I'd love to give it another go on the Switch.
Same here. And I loathed the Wiimote (it actually worked really well in this game).
I played this game for the first time shortly after the PC version came out on Steam, and I was blown away! I love this game. The story and art style are awesome!
I know I'm nitpicking but "Game Analysis" would be ゲーム分析 or just 分析 and "Digital Foundry" would be デジタルファウンドリー to be more natural. I think it's pretty much negligible though since I suspect only few Japanese guys are watching this channel but it caught my attention so... couldn't resist the urge to nitpick.
P. S. I've heard so many times that the game is beautiful and well worth playing but I haven't got my hands on it. Now properly seen the gameplay probably for the first time and I decided that I have to play it. Thank you John.
Got Okami on ps3 for £7. I loved how the narrative developed and the beautiful soundtrack. One of the best games I've ever played!
So the big trade off is 4k support vs playing on a 6 inch tablet that fits into your pocket. For 20 bucks, this game is a win either way. Great review for a great game.
Considering the art style, you can barely notice the difference in resolution imo. I've been playing Docked on a big TV and it looks crisp at 1080p.
Great video, John!
I hope y'all do a DBFighterZ analysis as well when that comes out. Sacrificing some small resolution options to have portable gaming anytime is what's so dope about the switch, and I'd like to see how DBZ holds up.
Masterpiece!
Best part of the PC version of Okami HD: If you don't mind having Japanese text for the credits and post credits scene, you can mod in the original credits song "Reset."
I miss the more focused, shorter Df retros.
Now they feel like a Livestream
Another fantastic Switch port! Doom, Skyrim, Wolfenstein...and now Okami, all virtually solid 30fps and don't look that different from other consoles but with portability factor. Nothing short of a technical marvel!
How did you manage to miss all the switch videos on doom and wolfenstein, because neither of those games are anywhere close to a "solid" 30fps..
I'm actually 30+ hours into my first playthrough of the game on PC, i love it.
Can't believe the original version had no dialogue skip :S.
Great video, John.
The art design in this game is second-to-none, you really can't see any other game that looked like this fantastic.
I think you are overstating the dialog as a con here, the only long unskippable bit of dialog is the first cut-scene and yes, it can feel long and annoying IF you have played Okami before and therfore know the story.If you haven't however, (and depending on who you are at least) you'll find it just fine if a bit lenghty as an introductory cut-scene
Okami still holds up really good in 2021. $10 for Okami during this Steam sale.
I wish we had more RUclips videos like this. Thanks!
If only more games follow this aesthetic today.
That's quite odd. I was playing okami all day today, and now RUclips is recommending me to watch this ~o_0~
I think I’ll go for the PS3 version, since is the only console I have at the moment XD
ps3= garbage
Can't go wrong with that version. Or any version besides Wii, really. It seems for the most part, the port was handled with respect.
It’s a shame no one has tried to dismantle the PS3 version’s code and prove once and for all the resolution.
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For me the best way to play Okami was with the move on PS3. I played the PS2 version but the move made the experience the best I've ever had. Being able to use your brush as fast as Shiranui in the Nechku and Lechku battle blew my mind! I was actually sad to see almost no one talked about the move gameplay because I can no longer play without it :D
i ordered a physical japanese copy from play asia
Ok
how much was it? Also can you tell me it plays in english
@@Kanuk97 I got a physical release from Amazon and Okami just defaults to whatever your switch is set too so I didn't even have to change a language option.
Good job as usual guys! Quick question...why do you not use your capture device for your PS2? It looks like you are recording the screen when some video capture cards feature component (which the PS2 supports)
Glad I prepurchased the game on the eshop!
Good thing you pre-purchased it. Just in case they run out of digital copies.
Okami is a lovely game.
Back in the PS2 days, I never even knew this game existed.
When I saw it for PS4, I just had to get it. I even managed to get a brand new PS2 copy too, just for the privilege of owning the fantastic original.