This video was extremely helpful, thanks. I was ready to tear my hair out watching countless videos and trying countless different cues to maintain a vertical bar path.
Fantastic video. This info does not seem to be widely known. I have obsessed over my bar path for a year with weight below 1.5 my body weight. It was frustrating and did not feel great trying to conform to a vertical bar path with weight that wasn't high enough. Now, until I reach 1.5-2 times my bodyweight, I will focus on hips and torso/shoulders rising at the same rate out of the hole.
This is exactly what I do. I am 218 lbs squatting 185 lbs,doing 3x5s adding 5 lbs per workout . Thank you for the great video. Hopefully my bar path will improve as weight goes up.
This is blowing me away. I’ve been struggling so hard to get a perfectly vertical path that I was about ready to give up on sports all together. Thank you so much.
Thanks so much for this! It makes a lot of sense - I'm pretty new to squatting and am now able to lift 0.75x my bodyweight, and I've often worried that I'm "cheating" in some way by not keeping the bar path vertical - but I just can't balance otherwise! This video has reassured me - I'm gonna carry on and trust as I continue to get stronger the bar path will straighten up :)
Thank you VERY MUCH for his content. You’re the first I’ve seen talk about this and it helps me a lot. I have long femurs and I’ve been trying so hard to get this at low weights thinking “I should only increase the weight when I have better form at low weight.” But thanks to you, I now know that I do have a straighter bar path at higher weight!
Thankyou for such a clear explanation. Was just watching back my squat video and seeing how much better the bar path is getting now I'm approaching 1x bodyweight. But it's still not quite there. I have more hope that I'll get there now :)
I've been trying to correct the issue of the bar moving forward in the eccentric using 135-185lbs for the past month. This video was helpful but it kinda just made me mad lol
Guys, great channel! Love the PRI integrations. Could you add a clip about mid foot activity in lower body exercises (push/pull) where you exactly define the drive? Thanks in advance and keep the great work up!
Im no expert but I will say I use to slightly learn forward with not heavy weight never had any issues, than I seen all these videos talking about vertical bar path. So when I started working out again I tried focusing on keeping a vertical bar path and then all the sudden it kept causing knee pain. With me trying so hard to be perfectly vertical
This has been my experience as well. It even has implications when hip mobility is limited at lighter weights because the greater forward lean requires more hip flexion mobility. Depth may be difficult at lighter weights. I am curious. With the forward travel of the bar, does momentum encourage a good morning squat?
Hey thank you so much for this explanation. I haven’t reached bodyweight squat on the barbell and have been obsessively trying to fix the bar path (I have a slight lean forward). I’m hoping this fixes itself as I get stronger (which I am). In case that issue still occurs any other tips other than the cue mentioned?
Very interesting. Having watched and read many, especially Rippetoe, I’ve always thought the bar path must be vertical, or I’m doing something wrong. Thank you for the explanation! Now I have a better understanding- as from so many of your other videos. Fantastic content !
Im focusing of keeping toes of the ground while i squat. It seems that it helps me a lot with keeping pressure in middle of the foot also squat feels much more strong and stable while i do it. I just want to ask if focusing on lifting my toes of the ground can be not beneficial for me in some sense or if its okay if it helps me to keep the squat more stable.
Yea man! You can jump in our discord and use the form check channel. We’d love to help you. You can find the link to our discord here: discord.gg/89ZBPht3
@@MelbourneStrengthCulture i am sorry i didnt understand the Short words, please explain, and also please tell me why from begining the bar need to be vertical over the mid of the foot to be best stabled. thanks.
@UCg7zspdcap-rERyUdtb7RFw , i am trying to understand why the bar path must be vertical over the foot in order to have the best stability. do u have Article that explain this? i am Stiffening to understand videos in english. thanks!
So interesting I have been banging my head against the wall wondering why I couldnt achieve the vertical bar path on lower weights
Depending on how you squat, it may actually be detrimental to chase a vertical bar path at light loads. Glad we could offer some insight!
+1. Glad I found this video.
dude, i work so hard to find out why i cannot achieve the vertical bar path too, my squat look goods except the bar path and i do not know why
This video was extremely helpful, thanks. I was ready to tear my hair out watching countless videos and trying countless different cues to maintain a vertical bar path.
Glad we could help!
Fantastic video. This info does not seem to be widely known. I have obsessed over my bar path for a year with weight below 1.5 my body weight. It was frustrating and did not feel great trying to conform to a vertical bar path with weight that wasn't high enough. Now, until I reach 1.5-2 times my bodyweight, I will focus on hips and torso/shoulders rising at the same rate out of the hole.
I am glad you found the video and that it helped!
This is exactly what I do. I am 218 lbs squatting 185 lbs,doing 3x5s adding 5 lbs per workout . Thank you for the great video. Hopefully my bar path will improve as weight goes up.
When I squat, I feel the pressure over my mid foot, but my bar path is not a straight line. Now I understand why. Thanks for the video
This is blowing me away. I’ve been struggling so hard to get a perfectly vertical path that I was about ready to give up on sports all together. Thank you so much.
Mind blown. Thank you- super helpful to understand the physics of this.
Thanks so much for this! It makes a lot of sense - I'm pretty new to squatting and am now able to lift 0.75x my bodyweight, and I've often worried that I'm "cheating" in some way by not keeping the bar path vertical - but I just can't balance otherwise! This video has reassured me - I'm gonna carry on and trust as I continue to get stronger the bar path will straighten up :)
Thank you VERY MUCH for his content. You’re the first I’ve seen talk about this and it helps me a lot. I have long femurs and I’ve been trying so hard to get this at low weights thinking “I should only increase the weight when I have better form at low weight.” But thanks to you, I now know that I do have a straighter bar path at higher weight!
First time I've seen this discussed. Great video!
Thanks, just trying to get our thoughts out there!
Thankyou for such a clear explanation. Was just watching back my squat video and seeing how much better the bar path is getting now I'm approaching 1x bodyweight. But it's still not quite there. I have more hope that I'll get there now :)
You’ll get it for sure! Glad we could help!
Thank you so much for this; I have been so upset with why I can't squat vertically with lower weights. Now I don't need to worry!
This was good info. Thanks for the blue line. It helps a lot
Glad it could help. Share it around for us. Helps the channel grow!
I’ve only seen Starting Strength talk about this, great to see others out this info too! It’s so important
Thanks for following along!
Interesting video. Never thought of it like this!
Thanks for following!
This is great. I was struggling with this with my customers
For me its the opposite. The heavier the load, the more forward the path while maintaining mid foot pressure
Thank you for this!
I've been trying to correct the issue of the bar moving forward in the eccentric using 135-185lbs for the past month. This video was helpful but it kinda just made me mad lol
Hahahaha, just get stronger, it will straighten up!
Start with a hinge from the beggining of Squat. Hinge more for a low bar squat
thank you! will try this cue next training session
Lee Jason let us know how you go!
Awesome video!
Great and informative video. Well presented too.
Todd Jarratt Cheers mate!
Guys, great channel! Love the PRI integrations. Could you add a clip about mid foot activity in lower body exercises (push/pull) where you exactly define the drive? Thanks in advance and keep the great work up!
Lukas Piechocinski thanks mate. we will get onto that!
Thank you
Thank you
Im no expert but I will say I use to slightly learn forward with not heavy weight never had any issues, than I seen all these videos talking about vertical bar path. So when I started working out again I tried focusing on keeping a vertical bar path and then all the sudden it kept causing knee pain. With me trying so hard to be perfectly vertical
Lean forward a little if it works for you!
This has been my experience as well. It even has implications when hip mobility is limited at lighter weights because the greater forward lean requires more hip flexion mobility. Depth may be difficult at lighter weights. I am curious. With the forward travel of the bar, does momentum encourage a good morning squat?
great video
thanks!
I was just wondering if the same principles apply to the front squats as with light weights achieving a vertical bar path seems impossible
Hey thank you so much for this explanation. I haven’t reached bodyweight squat on the barbell and have been obsessively trying to fix the bar path (I have a slight lean forward). I’m hoping this fixes itself as I get stronger (which I am). In case that issue still occurs any other tips other than the cue mentioned?
Nice video mate
Will the same hold true for the front-squat?
Very interesting. Having watched and read many, especially Rippetoe, I’ve always thought the bar path must be vertical, or I’m doing something wrong. Thank you for the explanation! Now I have a better understanding- as from so many of your other videos. Fantastic content !
The stronger you get the more vertical the bars path should become!
Im focusing of keeping toes of the ground while i squat. It seems that it helps me a lot with keeping pressure in middle of the foot also squat feels much more strong and stable while i do it. I just want to ask if focusing on lifting my toes of the ground can be not beneficial for me in some sense or if its okay if it helps me to keep the squat more stable.
Thank you so much!
Would love if you could look over my squat and tell me if it's good or not 😅😅
Yea man! You can jump in our discord and use the form check channel. We’d love to help you.
You can find the link to our discord here: discord.gg/89ZBPht3
If you set the knees early with The Terribly Useful Block of Wood and bend your back over more you'd be able to stay over the midfoot, right?
Not sure what you mean here… maybe send us a video DM of your technique
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Are there any published / scientific articles are squat bar paths?
Greg Nuckols wrote a really solid article a few years back regarding the topic, too. Check that out.
@@MelbourneStrengthCulture Thanks! We're doing a study related to this at my University.
if barbell path is vertical when the weight is 0.5*bodyweight is that bad technique? please explain
John Cena not bad technique at all, more than likely just means you can keep your COM center Ed over your BOS when squatting.
@@MelbourneStrengthCulture i am sorry i didnt understand the Short words, please explain, and also please tell me why from begining the bar need to be vertical over the mid of the foot to be best stabled. thanks.
Do we need squating shoes?
@UCg7zspdcap-rERyUdtb7RFw , i am trying to understand why the bar path must be vertical over the foot in order to have the best stability. do u have Article that explain this? i am Stiffening to understand videos in english. thanks!
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Kinda hard to precisely put into words how little sense this makes