Great DIY on draw length. I knew I should not have thrown that old rusted boat winch out a few years back!! Hope you get lots of likes on this one. God Bless
I built a draw board today, inspired by this video, and the need to check the cam timing on a Bowtech Insanity CPXL. I used a 2X6, a Harbor Freight strap type boat winch and a 1/2" steel rod for the grip post, instead of a hook. I used 1/2" heater hose over the steel rod. It works great, and it's so nice to have it around for quickly checking cam timing. Total cost, around $35.
Here's my question though, the pivot point is about 2 inches below the rest shelf. The d-loop is tied at 90 deg behind the arrow rest, so your d-loop is about 2 inches above the pivot point. So when you draw you aren't drawing straight back from the pivot point which puts your timing off because the top cam will reach full draw before the bottom cam. So you may show correct timing at full draw based on this method, but the cams are timed based on the pivot point. Their timed for somewhere between the pivot point and the d-loop. So if you time your cams this way, your bottom cam will actually be slower than your top cam because your timed to the arrow rest rather than the pivot point. Thoughts?
Hey Sean. I really enjoy the videos like this. I've purchased almost everything for my string that I am copying off you and will probably copy this too.
Is that a higher gear ratio winch? I’m interested in making one but I would think you would need to be pretty precise when trying to time. Any idea how much your moving with each click?
It is a gear winch. It works . If it clicks into a gear just before the stop hits, you can see if the draw stops are the same distance from the stopping point. You can then slowly crank till the first one hits and look down at the other to see if it's also touching. You then let down on the whole thing to make your adjustments and then do it all again.
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With arrow saws, some diy shooters use a dremel rotating cutting tool, and integrate a tape measure, many people have videos on this. With bow presses, you want to be careful. You want the press to be safe to use, and some companies require you to press the bow with a commercial press to not avoid warranty. The bowmaster bow press is a nice cheap portable press that won't void ny warranties. It is designed for solid limb bows, although you can get adapters for split limb bows. Hope this helps!
Thanks Sean. Always a pleasure watching your videos 👍.. Do you have an additional instructional video on how to do Cam-timing using this draw board set up ? Again, thank you Sean :-) Matt
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@@seansoutdoors thanks for the reply!!!! I was curious and looked it up after I wrote you and is it measured by how deep the handle is from the throat to the outer part? If so mine measures 1.5"..... Is this correct (it was on some fourm lol)
It’s probably related to arrow length and how bows traditionally were made. Originally the arrow had to go past the outside edge of the riser of the bow (when all we had were long bows), so the arrow length contributed to what was considered draw length. If your arrow needed to be 31 inches long for you to be able to draw and shoot that bow, you were a 31 inch draw length, even if you’re technically only pulling the string 25 inches (depending on how long the brace height was). Nowadays, with compound bows, you can shoot an arrow that comes in past the edge of the riser because the riser is built to be out of the way of the path of the arrow. Therefore, it’s not as obvious why draw length developed the way it did
Draw length is technically measured to the bow "back" or the front of the grip. Somehow this has become 1.5 inches or 1.75" depending upon the bow camp you talk to. I shoot mostly trad, so I always measure to the front of the grip no matter which bow I am performing a draw test on.
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This video was perfect timing. Was about to to email you to see if i could get the specs of your draw board. I am definitely making one of these in the near future for sure! On a side note, you are making your own strings now?? That is very awesome. how are they holding up? God bless brother!
@@seansoutdoors only reason making since to me is if the d-loop wasn't tied in correctly. Most commercial presses now have a strap that goes around the string just in case. Thanks for making this video too, save mr a lot of cash compared to buying one :)
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Great DIY on draw length. I knew I should not have thrown that old rusted boat winch out a few years back!! Hope you get lots of likes on this one. God Bless
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I built a draw board today, inspired by this video, and the need to check the cam timing on a Bowtech Insanity CPXL. I used a 2X6, a Harbor Freight strap type boat winch and a 1/2" steel rod for the grip post, instead of a hook. I used 1/2" heater hose over the steel rod. It works great, and it's so nice to have it around for quickly checking cam timing. Total cost, around $35.
Great. God bless you.
Here's my question though, the pivot point is about 2 inches below the rest shelf. The d-loop is tied at 90 deg behind the arrow rest, so your d-loop is about 2 inches above the pivot point. So when you draw you aren't drawing straight back from the pivot point which puts your timing off because the top cam will reach full draw before the bottom cam. So you may show correct timing at full draw based on this method, but the cams are timed based on the pivot point. Their timed for somewhere between the pivot point and the d-loop.
So if you time your cams this way, your bottom cam will actually be slower than your top cam because your timed to the arrow rest rather than the pivot point.
Thoughts?
The bow is held at the grip in the same spot your hand holds it when you draw the bow. It's worked for me .
Hey Sean. I really enjoy the videos like this. I've purchased almost everything for my string that I am copying off you and will probably copy this too.
Great best of luck to you
Great content. There are 3 places I go to online for archery video's, and yours is always one of them.
Thanks so much, Matt! God bless you!
Awesome dude. Keep up the good work
Thanks
Is that a higher gear ratio winch? I’m interested in making one but I would think you would need to be pretty precise when trying to time. Any idea how much your moving with each click?
It is a gear winch. It works . If it clicks into a gear just before the stop hits, you can see if the draw stops are the same distance from the stopping point. You can then slowly crank till the first one hits and look down at the other to see if it's also touching. You then let down on the whole thing to make your adjustments and then do it all again.
Love the DIY videos... Keep them coming! Question, do you have a video on making a bow press and arrow saw?
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Thanks for checking out my videos. I appreciate it. I actually responded to comment years ago, but ALL of my replies were deleted when changing the main email on my account, ugh. Anyway, I am going back through and re-replying to all old comments so they stop popping up in the unanswered post column of my RUclips studio. As you can see, I included some links to my website and social media links in case you are interested in checking any of it out. Thanks for your patience with this process. God bless you.
With arrow saws, some diy shooters use a dremel rotating cutting tool, and integrate a tape measure, many people have videos on this. With bow presses, you want to be careful. You want the press to be safe to use, and some companies require you to press the bow with a commercial press to not avoid warranty. The bowmaster bow press is a nice cheap portable press that won't void ny warranties. It is designed for solid limb bows, although you can get adapters for split limb bows. Hope this helps!
Great video Sean.
Thanks!
Thank you Sean, and i already have an old boat winch in my shed bonus! awesome :)
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Thanks mate for making another very useful video👍
You are welcome
Would this work for trad bows too or not really
Yes you just have to better secure to the string when pulling it back so it doesn't slip
Thanks Sean. Always a pleasure watching your videos 👍.. Do you have an additional instructional video on how to do Cam-timing using this draw board set up ? Again, thank you Sean :-)
Matt
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Surely the draw strength is going to be incorrect at full draw because of the valley? Or am I missing something?
The scale reads the weight the whole time and records they peak weight when it hits it.
@@seansoutdoors Ok. Thanks for the reply.
Why did you add 1"3/4? Is this just for your set up?
It’s standard
@@seansoutdoors thanks for the reply!!!! I was curious and looked it up after I wrote you and is it measured by how deep the handle is from the throat to the outer part? If so mine measures 1.5"..... Is this correct (it was on some fourm lol)
@@jacksonmorris7731 yes, that sounds right
Thanks Sean as always. I'm still new in the game and I hope this addiction lasts forever. Lol
Why is your drawlength 1.75” beyond the grip notch?
It’s probably related to arrow length and how bows traditionally were made. Originally the arrow had to go past the outside edge of the riser of the bow (when all we had were long bows), so the arrow length contributed to what was considered draw length. If your arrow needed to be 31 inches long for you to be able to draw and shoot that bow, you were a 31 inch draw length, even if you’re technically only pulling the string 25 inches (depending on how long the brace height was). Nowadays, with compound bows, you can shoot an arrow that comes in past the edge of the riser because the riser is built to be out of the way of the path of the arrow. Therefore, it’s not as obvious why draw length developed the way it did
And I'm confused why you add 1 3/4" to the measurement
Draw length is technically measured to the bow "back" or the front of the grip. Somehow this has become 1.5 inches or 1.75" depending upon the bow camp you talk to.
I shoot mostly trad, so I always measure to the front of the grip no matter which bow I am performing a draw test on.
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This video was perfect timing. Was about to to email you to see if i could get the specs of your draw board. I am definitely making one of these in the near future for sure!
On a side note, you are making your own strings now?? That is very awesome. how are they holding up? God bless brother!
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Looks great man! I'd probably use a 600 lb rope and a safety d-loop around the hook. Enjoy the vids brother
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Now i know what im making this weekend. :)
Lol great
You should have a safety loop around your string in case the d loop breaks.
Have you ever heard of a D loop breaking? Regardless, I use one now to appease the viewers.
@@seansoutdoors only reason making since to me is if the d-loop wasn't tied in correctly. Most commercial presses now have a strap that goes around the string just in case. Thanks for making this video too, save mr a lot of cash compared to buying one :)
I did this and my bow would point to Angle and not straight
Did you put the Velcro strap on the board to hold the bow still?
@@seansoutdoors ok didn't have the velcro strap.. will incorporate that
awesome...
Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol
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