You can go in-between pins with enough hook. Most 5 pin bowlers throw straight and only use rotation for pin carry. Some alleys do have an oil pattern, but it tapers off at around 40 feet
I used to be able to throw the ball straight when I was younger but now being so used to "hooking" the ball it's harder to get the desired effect for five pin, duckpin, candlepin bowling. Straight is much better.
To throw the ball more accurately, follow the maxim...reach out over the spot! Right handed bowlers, your ball should roll between the centre arrow and the arrow immediately to the left of the centre arrow. If your ball tends to drift left as it rolls down the lane it could cross in front of the headpin and hit the left pocket resulting in a 'crossover' strike. If your ball runs straight, it could hit the right pocket and you might get a 'normal' strike. The 'pocket' for strikes, spares, and cleaning up the headpin is where the ball hits the headpin on it's left or right 1/3 face of the headpin itself. If you are right handed a hit on the right pocket tends to carry the 2 3 5 pins away to the left and the right 3 2 pins usually get carried away or contacted by the ball itself.
YAY!!!!! So cool you did this! For the record, for decades both string pin and free fall 5-pin bowling existed. I was a youth bowler at a centre with I believe the 81-5 free fall pinsetters and I've also bowled on lanes with the old Double Diamond pinsetters.
Those lanes weren't auto scoring so you have to manually reset after your 3 balls. If you were bowling with others, i imagine they would turn on the auto score system. As others said, don't roll your wrist to hook the ball, the lighter weight means the balls dance much more across the lane than 10 pin balls. In 5 pin you actually try and use the markers the lane to aim.
I have lived in the Baltimore area all my life, so I learned duckpins as well as tenpins. Ducks are similar, and the strategy is similar-- hard and straight, the more spin the worse off you are.
Next time you try 5-pin, try to splay your fingers more around the ball as you don't really want the ball on your palm as that will decrease your accuracy. Next try to get lower and release the ball closer to the ground, you want to roll the ball more than throw it. The pins aren't numbered like in 10-pin. There's the center or head pin (5pts), the adjacent pins are colloquially called the left or right "three" pins as they are worth three points, and finally the left and right corner pins. (2pts). I hope you had fun and get to try it again soon. It's one of my favorite activities here at home in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Don't worry, it's really hard for us Canadians too! The Canadian 5-pin Bowling Association usually recognizes only 10-12 perfect games (450pts) per YEAR! Please try it again the next time you visit your neighbours to the North, I would love to see more videos of you 5-pin bowling.
I grew on both 5 and 10 pin, I'm ok at both and feel great that I'm able to switch games month by month, 5 pin AVG, 231, 10 pin AVG 168 , so I'm doing ok 😎
Honestly, why are you releasing it like a tenpin strike ball? It's more like candlepins where straight line speed and angles are more the strategy. Don't hook it! Look at the pros - they just whip it down there.
It is her instinct to go with what she knows. the vast majority of 5 pin bowlers throw an back up delivery which is the last thing most ten pin bowlers would think to do. Plus too much speed kills because you dont get the proper ampunt of deflection to carry all the pins. It is finding the balance between speed and accuracy.
@@scottrobb651 For sure. Packy has a video where he bowls candlepins and he's trying a normal tenpin approach and release and it's a mess. I'm screaming "just throw it hard and straight!" 😆
no the oil is only put down in the first few feet to protect the normal landing area of the ball. different type than an ten pin lane ball doesnt absorb it or carry it down. When five pin bowlers wipe their ball down it isnt lane oil as much their own body oil and sweat.
In 5 pin you have to throw the bowling ball straight. Hooking in 5 pin is not good as it causes major pin and bowling ball deflection. And the bowling ball can go between pins if you hook it. 5 pin bowling is meant for only straight shot. There may be a little break near the end of the lane but only slightly. But no need to purposely throw a hook
It’s hilarious watching 10 pin players try 5 pin. They have no idea what’s going on. But take a 5 pin player into 10 pin and they could compete in or just below pba tournaments and compete decently
Straight shots are easier to work with and you should slide in the approach. Many ten pin players will still shoot big hooks and plant that foot on delivery
Enjoyed watching more than I would think I'd like trying 5 pin bowling. Looked like those pins were on strings, yes.?.? I've candlepin bowled before and really do NOT like it. The successful bowlers throw straight with a lot of speed. Loved the "of course" comment when you picked the 7 (or 4) with the full rack after the many failed attempts at the single pin.
yes most 5 pin lanes are string pins although an few houses are "free fall" like ten pin. Strings add an different layer of complexity depending on how tight or loose the strings are. tight strings and pins dont move as much after contact so fewer messenger type reactions.
recommended delivery for 5 pin is is an back up delivery which is why 10 pin bowlers have trouble the first few times. Some 5 pinners do throw an hook ball but it considered much more difficult to control.
Its called Candlepin Bowling, not Candlestick. I've never played it but I know its harder than Duckpin Bowling. Well sure you can play the deadwood in Candlepin unlike Duckpin but that Lob Line on the Lane irratates me the most which is basically a 2nd Foul Line, what it means if you throw the ball over the Lob Line before hits the Lane Surface, that's a Foul.
FYI. Most of the best 5 pin bowlers hold the ball more in the finger tips. Question how do you call the left corner the 7pin, when there are only 5 pins 🤷
I counted 14 attempts.. also did anyone else hear her say “holy hell” on attempt 11 or was it just me? Also looks like ya need more pearl or thane for those lanes. Must be the 10 ft 1:1 pattern
This would be a game to play after a night out😅😅. This looked like a real beotch to try. A perfect score is 450, so has there ever been one?? What's would be a decent score for a pro 5 pinner?? Do you bowl 3 games for score?? Too many questions I know, but this looks ridiculous to attempt. 😢😢
Yes unlike candlepin there have been perfect games. on average there are about 15 -30 sanctioned perfect games per year in Canada ( according to C5PBA ) so far less than 10 pin. only an handful of players have every shot more than one. when i was bowling 5 pin the best bowlers would average around 270 in league play hit 300+ in tournament play League play is usually 3 games with some invite leagues being 4 games To be considered an average league bowler men would around 180 and women around 150. as far as throwing the ball Sarah was doing well actually but still thinking hook to get angle into the pocket. pocket entry angle is much more shallow in 5 pin because you need ball deflection to take out one side of pins while center pin takes out other side.Oil doesnt play an large role in 5 pin as there are no patterns and the ball doesnt pick up or carry down oil. Rather the difficulty in 5 pin comes in the precision of hitting the small target area for strikes. for those interested or just curious ruclips.net/video/rdEIrdysVjs/видео.html will explain better rhan i can type it
@@scottrobb651 I've never seen this until Sarah showed us. Looks like lesson in futility🤣🤣🤣. Guess I'll stick with "regular" 10 pin. I still suck at it, but at least I have some idea what I'm doing?? Thank you for the info👌👌
@@ronallen6578 If Sarah had thought to throw an back up ball she would of been much better off Her approach and release would be an dream to coach she just needed to know how to make five pin adjustments with her feet
@@scottrobb651 Maybe so. She's a successful youth, college and soon to be PWBA bowler. She does what she does best. I personally don't see her going hard core on this style and then again could very easily be mistaken. She may very well be the next national champ😉
It would have been alot cooler if you explained the game and scoring a little bit. You just sorta treated it like a carnival game by playing in practice mode and not trying to learn or teach us anything about it other than it's got 5 pins and smaller balls that hook alot😂
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It’s awesome to see you try out 5 pin! Helps grow our sport a little more! Great vid Sarah!
You can go in-between pins with enough hook. Most 5 pin bowlers throw straight and only use rotation for pin carry. Some alleys do have an oil pattern, but it tapers off at around 40 feet
Ive seen it happen when i was at provincials
I used to be able to throw the ball straight when I was younger but now being so used to "hooking" the ball it's harder to get the desired effect for five pin, duckpin, candlepin bowling. Straight is much better.
To throw the ball more accurately, follow the maxim...reach out over the spot! Right handed bowlers, your ball should roll between the centre arrow and the arrow immediately to the left of the centre arrow. If your ball tends to drift left as it rolls down the lane it could cross in front of the headpin and hit the left pocket resulting in a 'crossover' strike. If your ball runs straight, it could hit the right pocket and you might get a 'normal' strike. The 'pocket' for strikes, spares, and cleaning up the headpin is where the ball hits the headpin on it's left or right 1/3 face of the headpin itself. If you are right handed a hit on the right pocket tends to carry the 2 3 5 pins away to the left and the right 3 2 pins usually get carried away or contacted by the ball itself.
Nice strike at the end though, great job! 👏
Now try for one in Candlepin. 😉
Tenpin bowlers have such a hard time adapting to small ball bowling. Whereas small ball bowlers can adapt pretty quickly to tenpin bowling
YAY!!!!! So cool you did this!
For the record, for decades both string pin and free fall 5-pin bowling existed. I was a youth bowler at a centre with I believe the 81-5 free fall pinsetters and I've also bowled on lanes with the old Double Diamond pinsetters.
Those pins are sooooooo cute!
Those lanes weren't auto scoring so you have to manually reset after your 3 balls. If you were bowling with others, i imagine they would turn on the auto score system. As others said, don't roll your wrist to hook the ball, the lighter weight means the balls dance much more across the lane than 10 pin balls. In 5 pin you actually try and use the markers the lane to aim.
This looks like fun 😊
explaining Canadian 5 pin, well the Canadian band Barenaked Ladies play in the background lol
I have lived in the Baltimore area all my life, so I learned duckpins as well as tenpins. Ducks are similar, and the strategy is similar-- hard and straight, the more spin the worse off you are.
Hey Sarah. Let's see you do some more 5-pin bowling for us. Thank you!😀
You have to reset on your own after 3rd ball.
Depends where you bowl, some are all electronic and do it for you. Seems like an old bowling alley, even where the balls comes out seems old.
😆 I don't know how many times but man you having fun out there.
HOLY SHIT FAIRVIEW!!! I bowled here for tournaments and youth bowling for years. Glad to see it get some love 😇
Is that Fairview in St. Catharines, or another Fairview in a different city?
5 oin is great to make you throw a ball straight makes for better 10 pin spare shooting
Bonnydoon mall in Edmonton has a 5 pin alley in the basement. It's rad.
Next time you try 5-pin, try to splay your fingers more around the ball as you don't really want the ball on your palm as that will decrease your accuracy. Next try to get lower and release the ball closer to the ground, you want to roll the ball more than throw it. The pins aren't numbered like in 10-pin. There's the center or head pin (5pts), the adjacent pins are colloquially called the left or right "three" pins as they are worth three points, and finally the left and right corner pins. (2pts). I hope you had fun and get to try it again soon. It's one of my favorite activities here at home in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Don't worry, it's really hard for us Canadians too! The Canadian 5-pin Bowling Association usually recognizes only 10-12 perfect games (450pts) per YEAR! Please try it again the next time you visit your neighbours to the North, I would love to see more videos of you 5-pin bowling.
I want to see more of this while you're in Canada.
Cool video talk tech bowling bowling Sarah
Is that the Fairview Mall Lanes in St. Catharines, saw the pic behind you early on.
Looks like a very tough game!
As Darren Tang would say “Throw straight at your spares kid!”
Great vid. Enjoyed the 🐪 toe.
Cool video talk tech bowling Sarah
I grew on both 5 and 10 pin, I'm ok at both and feel great that I'm able to switch games month by month, 5 pin AVG, 231, 10 pin AVG 168 , so I'm doing ok 😎
I wanna try that! Texas has nothing like this 😭😭😭
I heard there's actually 9 Pin Bowling in Texas, however the Bowling Balls and Pins are the same what you get on normal Tenpins
12:12 😲
8:59 14. That was 14 attempts at the 4-duckpin. 😂
Honestly, why are you releasing it like a tenpin strike ball? It's more like candlepins where straight line speed and angles are more the strategy. Don't hook it! Look at the pros - they just whip it down there.
It is her instinct to go with what she knows. the vast majority of 5 pin bowlers throw an back up delivery which is the last thing most ten pin bowlers would think to do. Plus too much speed kills because you dont get the proper ampunt of deflection to carry all the pins. It is finding the balance between speed and accuracy.
@@scottrobb651 For sure. Packy has a video where he bowls candlepins and he's trying a normal tenpin approach and release and it's a mess. I'm screaming "just throw it hard and straight!" 😆
@@peteg475 i saw that laughed so hard
It was fun watching you try this. One bit of advice though. Stick to 10 pin bowling. JK Thank you for sharing. 🙂
Thumbnail was perfect btw
never saw 5 pin,I have done candlepin as a kid and seen duckpin. I think you need to reset it after the frame ends.
I grew up playing 5 pin..average was 283 don't recommend using so much curve unless you're going for a split
Since there's oil on the lanes, do your hands end up getting oily after a few shots?
no the oil is only put down in the first few feet to protect the normal landing area of the ball. different type than an ten pin lane ball doesnt absorb it or carry it down. When five pin bowlers wipe their ball down it isnt lane oil as much their own body oil and sweat.
That looks super tough
In 5 pin you have to throw the bowling ball straight. Hooking in 5 pin is not good as it causes major pin and bowling ball deflection. And the bowling ball can go between pins if you hook it. 5 pin bowling is meant for only straight shot. There may be a little break near the end of the lane but only slightly. But no need to purposely throw a hook
Maybe switch to urethane? 🤣😂😆
reactive asymmetrical with surface is where it's at (clearly idk what i'm talking about here)
Come to England and play skittles. You'd love it!
That looks so much more stressful then 10 pin. Also hand oiled? So no two patterns are the same?
I stopped counting after 97 attempts. Would love to see osku or mccune take a couple shots at this.
Tin cup?
It’s hilarious watching 10 pin players try 5 pin. They have no idea what’s going on. But take a 5 pin player into 10 pin and they could compete in or just below pba tournaments and compete decently
Straight shots are easier to work with and you should slide in the approach. Many ten pin players will still shoot big hooks and plant that foot on delivery
Enjoyed watching more than I would think I'd like trying 5 pin bowling. Looked like those pins were on strings, yes.?.? I've candlepin bowled before and really do NOT like it. The successful bowlers throw straight with a lot of speed. Loved the "of course" comment when you picked the 7 (or 4) with the full rack after the many failed attempts at the single pin.
yes most 5 pin lanes are string pins although an few houses are "free fall" like ten pin. Strings add an different layer of complexity depending on how tight or loose the strings are. tight strings and pins dont move as much after contact so fewer messenger type reactions.
Sarah there only oil the first couple feet and very little oil at that
yep just in the normal landing area of the ball to protect the lane
@@scottrobb651 correct I worked there you can walk on the rest of the lane
Loved the random commentary. Good Job!
oh and 5 pin looks to annoying for me
I've played 5 pin twice and I'm horrible 😂
Unless you can throw straight like norm or loft like Brad you're screwed 😂
recommended delivery for 5 pin is is an back up delivery which is why 10 pin bowlers have trouble the first few times. Some 5 pinners do throw an hook ball but it considered much more difficult to control.
Dont show anyone Candlestick bowling that will blow people's minds.
"Candlestick bowling" doesn't exist. It's called "candlepin".
Its called Candlepin Bowling, not Candlestick. I've never played it but I know its harder than Duckpin Bowling. Well sure you can play the deadwood in Candlepin unlike Duckpin but that Lob Line on the Lane irratates me the most which is basically a 2nd Foul Line, what it means if you throw the ball over the Lob Line before hits the Lane Surface, that's a Foul.
@@peteg475 yes thats it see how often I bowl it I think once lol
FYI. Most of the best 5 pin bowlers hold the ball more in the finger tips. Question how do you call the left corner the 7pin, when there are only 5 pins 🤷
Straighter is greater! No house pattern to help you :)
Badger 🦡 pattern, I just throw a straight ball and hope for the best 😜 LoL
I think you have to throw more straight at them instead of trying to hook it but I was watching you more than your bowling 😂❤
Next time switch to the pin down ball. Lol
I counted 14 attempts.. also did anyone else hear her say “holy hell” on attempt 11 or was it just me? Also looks like ya need more pearl or thane for those lanes. Must be the 10 ft 1:1 pattern
Want to see you go curling Sarah.
You did everything but throw it straight left-handed. 😂😂
Oh brother! I’d rather watch paint dry then 5 pin bowling but I enjoyed the video. It did look very difficult for sure. Huge thumbs up on the vid👍
9:56
That one rack took you 21 total attempts to clear. 5 pin is tough. Id rather do candlepin than 5 pin.
😂😂😂
Stick to 10 pin Sarah, :)
06/21/23 - daily Sarah fix.
This would be a game to play after a night out😅😅. This looked like a real beotch to try.
A perfect score is 450, so has there ever been one?? What's would be a decent score for a pro 5 pinner??
Do you bowl 3 games for score?? Too many questions I know, but this looks ridiculous to attempt. 😢😢
Yes unlike candlepin there have been perfect games. on average there are about 15 -30 sanctioned perfect games per year in Canada ( according to C5PBA ) so far less than 10 pin. only an handful of players have every shot more than one. when i was bowling 5 pin the best bowlers would average around 270 in league play hit 300+ in tournament play League play is usually 3 games with some invite leagues being 4 games To be considered an average league bowler men would around 180 and women around 150. as far as throwing the ball Sarah was doing well actually but still thinking hook to get angle into the pocket. pocket entry angle is much more shallow in 5 pin because you need ball deflection to take out one side of pins while center pin takes out other side.Oil doesnt play an large role in 5 pin as there are no patterns and the ball doesnt pick up or carry down oil. Rather the difficulty in 5 pin comes in the precision of hitting the small target area for strikes. for those interested or just curious ruclips.net/video/rdEIrdysVjs/видео.html will explain better rhan i can type it
@@scottrobb651 I've never seen this until Sarah showed us. Looks like lesson in futility🤣🤣🤣. Guess I'll stick with "regular" 10 pin. I still suck at it, but at least I have some idea what I'm doing??
Thank you for the info👌👌
@@ronallen6578 If Sarah had thought to throw an back up ball she would of been much better off Her approach and release would be an dream to coach she just needed to know how to make five pin adjustments with her feet
@@scottrobb651 Maybe so. She's a successful youth, college and soon to be PWBA bowler. She does what she does best. I personally don't see her going hard core on this style and then again could very easily be mistaken. She may very well be the next national champ😉
Do those pi s have rubber bands(?) around them?? If so, what for?? Guess I could just get on You tube and look🤔🤔
It would have been alot cooler if you explained the game and scoring a little bit. You just sorta treated it like a carnival game by playing in practice mode and not trying to learn or teach us anything about it other than it's got 5 pins and smaller balls that hook alot😂
03/02/24 - daily Sarah fix.
Thumbnail is hard for me
What a cruel sport
lol she gone
Oh heck no. I already have a hard time with 10 pin bowling. 🫣