I quite as a white 2 time - when I was 16 and when I was 22. After about 3-6 months of training each time. And only when I hit 30, I realized that I got bored with striking, went back to BJJ gym and 2 years later I got my blue belt. Although it was amazingly cool to level up, it was never my goal. I enjoy the journey. It's so much fun!
dominik cruz will dethrone conor - nice, congrats! I’m 30 now. I would’ve got my blue belt by now but my old professor left the gym so I left too and started training at a new place where they basically made me start from scratch 😩 I’m glad that happened, I wasn’t ready for my blue belt until now so any day now I should receive mine 🙌🏽🥋
When I got my blue belt I felt realy bad because I didn't think I earned it. But I think my Professor knows better than me and it actually upped my game because I started to partake in tournaments... so I guess it helped.
I believe once at Blue, you develop your style and personality on the mats, identify weaknesses. Once polished enough, you move on to Purple, where you really define your techniques, bring up your weak points even more and add to your arsenal of attacks. But that's a whole new can of worms (purple). I say enjoy the process as much as possible and bask in the ambiguoty of it all. With our lives so full of instant gratification with internet, live streams, fast food, fast cars etc. It's nice to have a little mystery in our lives where nothing makes sense and there still magic to things. The thrill of the chase so to speak. The magic isn't in the destination, but the journey itself.
@@raidthanfl I work the bloody 4 PM to 4 AM, I’m going to three different academies so I can train three days a week because they all have a single morning class on different days days of the week. Honestly, that’s what’s kept me back from starting was not being able to give it a solid commitment because of my work schedule. Hitting 40 and wanting to do BJJ since I saw Rickson on the cover of martial arts magazine In the 80s. I decided now or never to give it a try. As a former college/greco wrestler It feels amazing to be back on the mats for over a year now.
@@rstlr01 thats awesome. Wrestlers are always so annoying. It translates so well to this sport. I started at 39, about to turn 42, in the best shape of my life besides the old man aches and pains. My new gym has a schedule that works better for me, so i’m able to go 2-4 times a week depending on work
Started at 48 following a 30 year career in the Marines. Took me 1 year 10 months to get my blue. As the old guy in my gym, I couldn't be in a better place with an amazing BJJ community and the friendship of all those in my gym. 4 times a week, plus open mat, and I love every day and each roll and I cherish the friends I make along the way.
@@rojoification Hope everything is going well. You will be sore but after a period of time your effort will be rewarded! Roll smart, listen to your body, and commit to the long game!
16 months on at age 63....I suspect my goals are a lot different than a 25 year old... I am not belt oriented. Just happy to be healthy enough to do this five times a week. I get it, getting the belts is part of the journey, however far it takes me.
Never really worried about belts, it's just so fun meeting new people and getting my mind blown from what they have to offer, I'm forever white belt at heart
The decision I had to make before I started was that I wasn’t going to care about the belts. Yes they are a nice achievement but my goal is to have fun, enjoy coming in, and just get a fraction better each day. That could mean I finally understand a submission or that one incremental step in that submission finally makes sense
I did four to six months of training and choked the guy with the arena champ belt. LOL We had 30 seconds left on the timer he turns and looks at the clock and fights through, I let go and asked if he was okay cause he was turning purple. LOL That SOB took another breath and said yeah I ok, So I choked him some more. Timer ran out I let go and he laughed and said you had me bro. Why did you let go I said I was concerned for you man, LOL He said good job and I Thanked him for his time Bump and Slap, Next person. Good Times Rolling!
White to blue; learn the pins by name and what makes them dominant. Learn positions and their importance. Learn how to shrimp, hip escape, sit out, bridge, shoulder roll etc. correctly. How to keep guard, how to break guard. Take downs and defenses. Basic bread and butter submissions; arm bar, triangles, head/arm choke, kimura, rear naked choke etc. Basic defense and escapes of submissions. Correct posture in guard, top basics (take away space, pressure), bottom basics (make space, head/arm control), sweeps of all kinds, arm drags of all kinds. Bridges and shrimp escapes. Proper collar and sleeve grips. Technical fall and stand up. Hip tosses. Tying movements together, as smoothly as possible with proper technique. It sounds like a lot but it’s what is helping me as a white belt. I don’t think any instructor is expecting you master Jiu Jitsu as a white to blue belt, but you do have to show that you know what you’re doing and why you’re doing it.
I find that a lot of people stop at blue belt because they figure that they know enough to defend themselves in a typical fight, but if that's all that they were there for then why even start bjj. Why not sign up for self defense classes like gracie combatives instead, if that's all you really cared about doing? Bjj imo is soo much more than just learning to defend yourself, it pushes you to do things that you didn't think were possible and gives you soo much confidence in yourself. That's the reasons why should continue to train in bjj.
I just earned my blue belt the other night after training on and off for several years. It feels great to finally accomplish that and I'm going to ask my professors what they look for going from blue to purple and what they think I should work on specifically.
@@shrimuyopa8117 Yes I am but sporadically. I haven't been to the gym in a couple weeks but it's been much longer than that in the past. I don't feel bad about missing time anymore as I enjoy it more as a part time hobby. Do you train in bjj?
@@shrimuyopa8117 No problem. That's awesome, keep up the great work. The most important thing is to find your own way of enjoying it which I'm sure you have.
To get your belts faster is to get into mma...or amature fighting. It really shows you where your strengths are and what your weekness! I highly ingurish it. Also you can compete in n.a.g.a etc. And remember to use all the technique moves you Larned... ☺...
William Edwards not really. Mma fighters train no Gi, they really don’t need the Gi. That’s why you see a lot of mma fighters that are blue belts because they train mostly no Gi for fighting. Gi is traditional. So if you want to earn belts. You have to train in Gi.
I am a white belt. I enjoy training, and i wanna get to the next level. I want to get my blue belt really bad. It’s like an addiction, i constantly think about training to get better to get my blue belt faster. I don’t think i’ll ever stop training. My goal is to be a black belt in bjj
Take your time training focused on your techniques. Refining your techniques and when you become a Blue belt you’ll be ready to move to the next level. Just focus on one belt at a time. And you Will achieve your goals. That’s the way I am go to do it.
I know this isn’t a video on drop out rate. But belts do help put this into perspective. From my experience 1/8 is fantastic, because I bet the school I go to is running at about 1/15-20 that make it to blue. I wonder if anyone has done any extensive research on BJJ drop out rate?
fuck man, I stopped training for about 2/3 years after I got my blue. . . but I got married! shit I could pass everyone's guard at the gym back then, even brown belts, I trained how to pass all the guards I could for about two years and I LOVED the journey
very very true, i have had someone take 4 years before getting their blue belt, but he had to learn our curriculum self defense first then he was eligible.... he was and still is a good competitor but not good at defending himself. so now he has the solid fundamentals.
Dear coach. I want to start BJJ. I am not that young :-) I am lost with all the techniques and I don't know from where to start. Is there any curriculum to guide me ? For example: What are the minimum required techniques and on which order I need to follow to move from white to blue belt, .....I need a kind of reference or path to follow. Does such a curriculum exist, like for other martial arts (judo, karaté, ....). Please help me on this. I need some guidance.
@@KamaJiuJitsu I think our standards of what makes a blue belt is different. It seems kind of arbitrary what makes a blue belt to me. It looks like it varies so much between different gyms. But I don't know, I've barely started on this journey.
Do they have an actual curriculum of concepts and techniques you need to know in order to earn your blue belt? I guess if you don’t have one, then the goal posts are subject to being moved all the time.
if your kid is in first grade and stayed there for two years, then you asked, "why so long?" you would have to assume a couple of possibilities. 1) no particular curriculum - they're just teaching "whatever" and the kids have a hard time learning "whatever." 2) curriculum, but incompetent teachers - the teacher is so terrible, they have no ability to get the material in the kids' heads in a year, 3) stupid kids who are slow to learn despite a) good teachers and b) a straightforward curriculum. in most cases i've seen, it's 1, 2, or a combination of the two. very rarely, would 3 ever come into play (i.e. rarely the students' fault).
So if im hearing it right (thinking about say driving a car).... White is like your Learners Permit, Blue is Your Provisional Licence, there other Belts are your actual Licence and different skills with that licence... Would that be right?
White belt is skateboarding - slow, tiring, and painful if you aren't careful. Blue belt is a moped - as long as you stay off the interstate (competition), you can travel the entire country. Because a GJJ (self defense) blue belt can win a fight anywhere except competition. In other words, the only thing that can beat JJ is better JJ. Now, some people are dumb enough to rev their moped next to a Mustang, and it's the Mustang driver's duty to let them know what's up. Purple belt is a stick shift S-10 - you can pick up hitchhikers (introduce noobs), ...all with decent efficiency. Brown belt is the Mustang - you can travel any road with speed, efficiency, and style, but you know there are faster, more efficient, and more stylish vehicles out there. As long as you stay off the ice (stick to the fundamental purpose of JJ, self defense. Mustangs are not AWD, yano) , you'll give anyone a run for their money! When an S-10 revs on you, start with a donut to put yourself behind (make a fundamental mistake and see what they do with it), then catch them, cruise beside them, and wait for them to miss third gear. Exploit their mistakes in a way that they learn from it, while also letting them know they would have lost anyway. Even if they beat you, they should know you are much faster than them. Black belt - you prefer to drive your Tesla but you still have your past rides. This is important to remember the journey and to teach others how to ride their moped safely. By now, your garage is the envy of the neighborhood. Make sure your moped, S-10, and Mustang are kept up well - the best way to do this is to drive them often. Zero emissions. Autopilot. AWD. Coral belt - Houston, we have liftoff. Rickson Gracie teleports.
Bro I got my blue belt not to long ago and just seen this in my feed. I have been training since i was 9 but I'm still scared with it being my first adult rank.
What exactly is a blue belt though? With just my wrestling knowledge, couldn’t I technically beat an untrained bigger person with only grappling? I only ask to get your opinion.
Took me 2 years. Had to quit for 5 years due to a career change (pipeline) have just recently got back into it. More hungry now than I was then as a younger man.
I have a question Professor Ryan the person that got there blue belt in four months. Did they have previous experience in another type jujitsu besides learning Gracie jujitsu ? That’s the only way I would see them getting their blue belt in four months.
Yes and no. Yes, in that he was a beginner level practitioner who occasionally trained elsewhere, but once he became my student, I had him discard EVERYTHING, and got him to do the KJJ curriculum. But, he was an exceptionally gifted athlete, and his first four months of training consisted of four months of 2+ hour private sessions.
In some way even though you had him discard what he learned before some of that old training is still in him. So that really help him with your training you gave him. Interesting
Hi Ryan (Or runner of the channel)! What's your (or Daves) opinion about the change in definition of blue belt? I've heard and read that Helio defines a blue belt as someone who can subdue a larger and stronger (Untrained) opponent using Jiu Jitsu techniques. I can definitely do this, and I have been able to do this for a long time. A lot of big guys come into my Judo sessions for the first time, and they stand zero chance of not getting subbed by me in Newaza randori. I weigh 63 kg. Under Helios definition, I am probably a blue belt. If I go down to my local BJJ gym however, and roll with a fresh blue belt, or four stripe white belt, I'll normally get completely destroyed. In England where I live, most people take a year or two before getting to blue belt, and the requirement seems similar to what Kano defines as a Shodan. I think it's probably a really good thing that it takes so long to get a blue belt, but what do you think about this situation? I think it's an interesting topic. The main problem I see is that despite not being at a blue belt skill level at all, if someone walks in for their first class, we're wearing exactly the same belt, and it seems dishonest when I have over a year and a half of grappling experience, and our rolls aren't fair at all. Thanks Kama team! :)
I'm about 20 months in training three times a week on average in 90 minute sessions and I'm still far from a blue belt and really only lost in white belt competition so far. Fat and unathletic when I started and no prior Martial arts experience whatsoever though. But I thought two years was more average, not long.
My academy is small and has a small core group of like ten training partners and they range from white to black belt, so there are no basic or beginner sessions and I don't have many different white belts to roll with. My coach is real legit, IBJJF blackbelt, higher degree Judo blackbelt, high degree Sport Ju Jutsu blackbelt and I like and respect him. There's also noone else really in convenient range. Some of the higher belts in the little group regularly medal in bigger competitions. I've guest trained at Roger Gracie Academy in London a few times, and while it was bigger and more professional, and there are regular and big basic sessions, I missed the personal engagement between instructor and student (I think they noticed I wasn't a member the third session I attended) and I didn't sweat the entire 60 minute session. Then again I guess many there do far more than three sessions a week. My gym doesn't have a curriculum. We have monthly focuses, focus for a month on closed guard, or on Wormguard, or x guard or something like that. I think the fact it's not fit to white belts enough is part of my problem. But I can't really change it anyway.
Just earned my blue belt last Saturday! Took a year and a half of frustration, with the plandemic, busted toes, shoulders, and bad back lol. So proud of myself for getting it, but I'm not gonna slow down one bit!
My goal is to get all the belts in BJJ if i managed to get away from all the bad things in my life i was hooked on and what BJJ took me away from i will get all of them. And by the way BJJ is an addiction for me who is really benificial for me so that “easy” 🤔 😉💪
@@shrimuyopa8117 Thanks for asking, yes iam still training and still loving it. There has been some changes in gyms because my close friend received his Black belt and my brother from another mother got his Purple belt and they started their own Brazilian Jiu Jitsu School and i went with them. But all my bad habits are gone and i feel great. Still fighting a depression but iam getting there. Have a nice day 🙏👍🏻 Oss
@@KamaJiuJitsu the only thing I could think of would be someone who already has PLENTY OF of experience in no gi. After all your blue belt test is based off your knowledge of positions/submissions/escapes/takedowns. Imo it takes longer than 4 months to learn Gi specific techniques about grips etc. at four months of training you have to be a low technical level regardless how many people you can tap
@@miguelespinoza2518 What if the guy trains every day? Or even twice a day? From what I seen it seems like people get their blue belts after a year of training 2x a week. So after 100 classes they earn their blue belts. So in 4 months that's already 110 classes they attended. Let's say they trained twice a day twice a week. That's an extra 32 classes at the end of 4 months which puts them at about 140 classes, that's almost the same as a guy training 3x a week for a year. 4 months is definitely a short period of time and the shortest person I ever heard of in real life getting their blue belt was after 7 months of training. But he was coming almost every day and doing 2 a days fairly frequently. So under the right circumstance you can earn it in 4 months, but it's definitely rare.
@@bane3991 2 days a week for only one year? I would say that's below average. Every instructors different. I would say the average is a year-and-a-half with two to three days a week. I got mine in 2 years at 2 to 3 days a week. a friend of my class started the exact same time I did he comes 4 to 5 days a week and got his in 2 years.
4 months! I train 5 times a week for about an hour. I’ve been doing it for 3 1/2 months now. About how much longer should I expect until I get blue belt?
Some people just are phenomenally athletic and have the level of mastery over their body that jiujitsu just comes easy for them. Example of this would be the Martinez brothers, who came from break dancing background.
Nicky K.D Chaleunphone Hi Nicky, did you ever end up trying BJJ? Also, what did you mean by “mind runs too fast”? Do you mean that you think your mind runs fast because you’re hard of hearing? = Hard of hearing makes your mind run fast
So what I am getting from this is just keep at it? Keep showing up and busting my ass like always. Nothing really changes as long as you don't catch the blue-belt-itis. I'm not there yet but I am close (according to my instructor) and I just keep showing up, putting in work, and hoping I'm getting better. My question for you is how do I know? It is so hard to see progress in yourself. I am not in it for the belt. I enjoy class and the people that are around. I am in it for the skills and I am worried that I will get frustrated by not recognizing progress in myself. Will I survive the itis?
+The Guy just showing up and busting your hump is not enough. You need to take an inventory of all you learned as a white belt and be able to execute it at a higher level. Ever notice how an upper belt catches you with something you thought you learned how to defend? The only surprise, was that you succumbed. You knew the defense. Or at least you thought you knew it. That's someone executing at a higher level for you. There isn't really such thing as white belt, blue belt, black belt techniques, per se. There is black belt "execution," though. In other words, if you just go in and "train" or "roll," it doesn't help you unless something in that training session measurably improved. Mat time is not enough. You need to leave having learned to do something better. I've seen guys never miss a class for two years, only to end up getting beat by another guy who comes for two months, but takes his daily improvement to heart. I've also seen a multi-year blue belt get beaten by a 1yr white belt because he won't task himself with improving his execution. The exception to everything I said though, is the professor who promotes based on attendance. That's where you have black belts getting destroyed by blue belts that execute well. That's sad.
Kama Jiu-Jitsu thank you. I think I understand. After class I always ask myself: What went right? What went wrong? What would I do differently? I still don't really know how to measure progress. I just try to improve what I know and test out the new things we leaned that day. I can see when a technique works for me better than it used to or works on someone better than it used to. I guess I am just a pessimist and even though I can see the tool kit growing and cementing I always feel like I suck a BJJ regardless of successes. Do you have any tips for journal structure? I just sort of free write and it makes looking back through it difficult.
What I personally do is after the training session I think what I did right and what I did wrong. Usually I always can remember some issues that I am facing on regular basis. For example, I get caught in triangle when I am passing the closed guard. I notice that after the training and think what I have to improve to eliminate that gap in my technique. If I can't find the way myself, I watch videos on youtube. One of the recent ones - I've been having troubles escaping side control - so I spoke with a brown belt that I rolled with in the class, he showed few tricks and then I also came home and watch few videos on this topic. Asking more experienced mates in the class is also a great way to improve your game. Other than that don't bother about whether or not you are improving. You are! Trust me. I remember I had a plateau for about 4 months. I was not seeing any progress in my game at all. And then all of a sudden - BOOM! I improved a LOT! Started submitting guys who I always was losing to and overall level of my game improved significantly. But I was enjoying the journey and kept at it no matter what just because it's so much fun.
@@KamaJiuJitsu Ugh, what do I do . My school promotes on attendance all the way to brown belt as far as I can tell. I'm about to get a purple at 3 years of going 3x a week and I really don't think I deserve it.
@@KamaJiuJitsu In fairness, if one trained everyday, multiple times per day... Almost 1,300 hours of BJJ, I can't reasonably say it's outside the realm of possibility. I suppose this makes my previous statement ridiculous.
I think attendance doesn’t really demonstrate everything. There could be a student going every day, 5 or 6 days a week and then there’s the other student going 3 days a week who has way better technique than the student going every day. So attendance does not show everything.
I think white belt is the hardest belt to get. It took me 29 years to walk into a gym and earn it.
I quite as a white 2 time - when I was 16 and when I was 22. After about 3-6 months of training each time. And only when I hit 30, I realized that I got bored with striking, went back to BJJ gym and 2 years later I got my blue belt. Although it was amazingly cool to level up, it was never my goal. I enjoy the journey. It's so much fun!
Rey Alecio haha me to i started a month after i turned 30, stuck with it and just got my blue belt last week
dominik cruz will dethrone conor - nice, congrats! I’m 30 now. I would’ve got my blue belt by now but my old professor left the gym so I left too and started training at a new place where they basically made me start from scratch 😩 I’m glad that happened, I wasn’t ready for my blue belt until now so any day now I should receive mine 🙌🏽🥋
yeah, that´s what he meant.
@@MoneyisAwesome do you have to compete to get a blue belt
How about that grey belt you are wearing in the vid? That has to be the most important belt, without a doubt.
i'm not wearing a gray belt in the video.
The seatbelt, my friend, the seatbelt ;-)
LMAO! you got me!
good one. ahahaha
I actually was a grey belt until last December that is :D
When I got my blue belt I felt realy bad because I didn't think I earned it. But I think my Professor knows better than me and it actually upped my game because I started to partake in tournaments... so I guess it helped.
I believe once at Blue, you develop your style and personality on the mats, identify weaknesses. Once polished enough, you move on to Purple, where you really define your techniques, bring up your weak points even more and add to your arsenal of attacks. But that's a whole new can of worms (purple). I say enjoy the process as much as possible and bask in the ambiguoty of it all. With our lives so full of instant gratification with internet, live streams, fast food, fast cars etc. It's nice to have a little mystery in our lives where nothing makes sense and there still magic to things. The thrill of the chase so to speak. The magic isn't in the destination, but the journey itself.
Bravo! well said.
took me 5 years since I started BJJ to earn my blue belt, and even then, I think its too soon 😄😄
One of my biggest obstacles to training is Bloody SHIFT WORK.
So true man! Work is always in the way.
omg i can only imagine
Started training 3 months ago. Working 7pm to 7am, makes it hard to get to 6pm and 11am classes. But its worth it when i can get in a good roll
@@raidthanfl I work the bloody 4 PM to 4 AM, I’m going to three different academies so I can train three days a week because they all have a single morning class on different days days of the week. Honestly, that’s what’s kept me back from starting was not being able to give it a solid commitment because of my work schedule. Hitting 40 and wanting to do BJJ since I saw Rickson on the cover of martial arts magazine In the 80s. I decided now or never to give it a try. As a former college/greco wrestler It feels amazing to be back on the mats for over a year now.
@@rstlr01 thats awesome. Wrestlers are always so annoying. It translates so well to this sport. I started at 39, about to turn 42, in the best shape of my life besides the old man aches and pains. My new gym has a schedule that works better for me, so i’m able to go 2-4 times a week depending on work
Started at 48 following a 30 year career in the Marines. Took me 1 year 10 months to get my blue. As the old guy in my gym, I couldn't be in a better place with an amazing BJJ community and the friendship of all those in my gym. 4 times a week, plus open mat, and I love every day and each roll and I cherish the friends I make along the way.
Starting tonight- 45 years old- looking forward to having a great experience like you!
@@rojoification Hope everything is going well. You will be sore but after a period of time your effort will be rewarded! Roll smart, listen to your body, and commit to the long game!
I am curious how things are going for you. Are you still practicing?
@@shrimuyopa8117 Shrim, yes, I'm still rolling. I'm blessed with a great gym, lots of experience and we all work to help one another progress.
@@seamac7564 Good to hear, thanks for sharing!
Just received my Blue Belt - your videos over the last year and a half have been amazingly helpful.
Great to hear!
I was a green belt at the age of 14 / 15 and it took me in total 6 years to earn Blue Belt.
Started at age 12 BJJ.
Now
I’m 22
16 months on at age 63....I suspect my goals are a lot different than a 25 year old... I am not belt oriented. Just happy to be healthy enough to do this five times a week. I get it, getting the belts is part of the journey, however far it takes me.
Blue belts quit because life happens. Purple belts quit because their hearts get broken.
Haha!
I was a white belt for 2 years and 10 months. Training consistently 2-3 times per week. 24 months seems kind of short.
So you sandbagged for about a year.. nice!
I was white for 1,4 years. Training from 2 to 7 days a week.
24 months is super slow lol
24 months is very slow for 3 times per week
@@scarred10 ^
Thank you. As a new blue belt, I needed to hear this.
It is now two years down the road, are you still training? If so, how is it going?
Never really worried about belts, it's just so fun meeting new people and getting my mind blown from what they have to offer, I'm forever white belt at heart
The decision I had to make before I started was that I wasn’t going to care about the belts. Yes they are a nice achievement but my goal is to have fun, enjoy coming in, and just get a fraction better each day. That could mean I finally understand a submission or that one incremental step in that submission finally makes sense
Same
cliff notes: keep showing up and putting in the effort 😁
I did four to six months of training and choked the guy with the arena champ belt. LOL We had 30 seconds left on the timer he turns and looks at the clock and fights through, I let go and asked if he was okay cause he was turning purple. LOL That SOB took another breath and said yeah I ok, So I choked him some more. Timer ran out I let go and he laughed and said you had me bro. Why did you let go I said I was concerned for you man, LOL He said good job and I Thanked him for his time Bump and Slap, Next person. Good Times Rolling!
White to blue; learn the pins by name and what makes them dominant. Learn positions and their importance. Learn how to shrimp, hip escape, sit out, bridge, shoulder roll etc. correctly. How to keep guard, how to break guard. Take downs and defenses. Basic bread and butter submissions; arm bar, triangles, head/arm choke, kimura, rear naked choke etc. Basic defense and escapes of submissions. Correct posture in guard, top basics (take away space, pressure), bottom basics (make space, head/arm control), sweeps of all kinds, arm drags of all kinds. Bridges and shrimp escapes. Proper collar and sleeve grips. Technical fall and stand up. Hip tosses. Tying movements together, as smoothly as possible with proper technique. It sounds like a lot but it’s what is helping me as a white belt. I don’t think any instructor is expecting you master Jiu Jitsu as a white to blue belt, but you do have to show that you know what you’re doing and why you’re doing it.
I find that a lot of people stop at blue belt because they figure that they know enough to defend themselves in a typical fight, but if that's all that they were there for then why even start bjj. Why not sign up for self defense classes like gracie combatives instead, if that's all you really cared about doing? Bjj imo is soo much more than just learning to defend yourself, it pushes you to do things that you didn't think were possible and gives you soo much confidence in yourself. That's the reasons why should continue to train in bjj.
I just earned my blue belt the other night after training on and off for several years. It feels great to finally accomplish that and I'm going to ask my professors what they look for going from blue to purple and what they think I should work on specifically.
I am curious, are you still training?
@@shrimuyopa8117 Yes I am but sporadically. I haven't been to the gym in a couple weeks but it's been much longer than that in the past. I don't feel bad about missing time anymore as I enjoy it more as a part time hobby. Do you train in bjj?
@@makekotor3722 Thanks for sharing!
Yes I do train. I have been training for almost 4 years now.
@@shrimuyopa8117 No problem. That's awesome, keep up the great work. The most important thing is to find your own way of enjoying it which I'm sure you have.
Enjoy all your videos. As always. Will start training soon. That’s my aim. For blue. No matter how long I need to train. To earn it.
Out of pure curiosity, did you end up starting? If so how long did you stick with it (assuming you are still training) and how is it going?
To get your belts faster is to get into mma...or amature fighting. It really shows you where your strengths are and what your weekness! I highly ingurish it. Also you can compete in n.a.g.a etc. And remember to use all the technique moves you Larned... ☺...
William Edwards not really. Mma fighters train no Gi, they really don’t need the Gi. That’s why you see a lot of mma fighters that are blue belts because they train mostly no Gi for fighting. Gi is traditional. So if you want to earn belts. You have to train in Gi.
Thank you for ingurishment.
I am a white belt. I enjoy training, and i wanna get to the next level. I want to get my blue belt really bad. It’s like an addiction, i constantly think about training to get better to get my blue belt faster. I don’t think i’ll ever stop training. My goal is to be a black belt in bjj
Take your time training focused on your techniques. Refining your techniques and when you become a Blue belt you’ll be ready to move to the next level. Just focus on one belt at a time. And you Will achieve your goals. That’s the way I am go to do it.
sounds cliche', but it's true.
Thanks for sharing professor: this gave me some of the understanding I needed for this next phase of my bjj journey
You’re welcome.
I hope one day I become a blue belt in jiu jitsu
Well? Did you? Still working on it?
Me too 1 year in no stripes, but still trying to improve every time.
@@Steincooperfieldritzenheimer That's kind of messed up lol... How often do you train for that to happen?
@AllegroCrawfish123 when someone says they have no stripes so far at their gym it's implied that their gym does striping and they have none.
Blue belt might be the hardest to get
After i got my blue belt last summer i injured my back! Havnt been able to train for about 3 months now = (
I know this isn’t a video on drop out rate. But belts do help put this into perspective. From my experience 1/8 is fantastic, because I bet the school I go to is running at about 1/15-20 that make it to blue. I wonder if anyone has done any extensive research on BJJ drop out rate?
I would say most school owners do not. However, smart ones who like to give their members the best experience, will.
fuck man, I stopped training for about 2/3 years after I got my blue. . . but I got married! shit I could pass everyone's guard at the gym back then, even brown belts, I trained how to pass all the guards I could for about two years and I LOVED the journey
very very true, i have had someone take 4 years before getting their blue belt, but he had to learn our curriculum self defense first then he was eligible.... he was and still is a good competitor but not good at defending himself. so now he has the solid fundamentals.
Dear coach. I want to start BJJ. I am not that young :-) I am lost with all the techniques and I don't know from where to start. Is there any curriculum to guide me ? For example: What are the minimum required techniques and on which order I need to follow to move from white to blue belt, .....I need a kind of reference or path to follow. Does such a curriculum exist, like for other martial arts (judo, karaté, ....). Please help me on this. I need some guidance.
At my gym, 24 months to blue belt is faster than average. I've been at it for 23 months and 2 weeks now. 4 days a week. I'm a 3 stripe white.
Why does it take so long for students there to learn the basic concepts?
@@KamaJiuJitsu I think our standards of what makes a blue belt is different. It seems kind of arbitrary what makes a blue belt to me. It looks like it varies so much between different gyms. But I don't know, I've barely started on this journey.
Do they have an actual curriculum of concepts and techniques you need to know in order to earn your blue belt? I guess if you don’t have one, then the goal posts are subject to being moved all the time.
@@KamaJiuJitsu I think you're right. We don't have a set curriculum.
if your kid is in first grade and stayed there for two years, then you asked, "why so long?" you would have to assume a couple of possibilities. 1) no particular curriculum - they're just teaching "whatever" and the kids have a hard time learning "whatever." 2) curriculum, but incompetent teachers - the teacher is so terrible, they have no ability to get the material in the kids' heads in a year, 3) stupid kids who are slow to learn despite a) good teachers and b) a straightforward curriculum.
in most cases i've seen, it's 1, 2, or a combination of the two.
very rarely, would 3 ever come into play (i.e. rarely the students' fault).
It took me 17 years to get my white belt
So if im hearing it right (thinking about say driving a car).... White is like your Learners Permit, Blue is Your Provisional Licence, there other Belts are your actual Licence and different skills with that licence... Would that be right?
That sounds about right.
White belt is skateboarding - slow, tiring, and painful if you aren't careful.
Blue belt is a moped - as long as you stay off the interstate (competition), you can travel the entire country. Because a GJJ (self defense) blue belt can win a fight anywhere except competition. In other words, the only thing that can beat JJ is better JJ. Now, some people are dumb enough to rev their moped next to a Mustang, and it's the Mustang driver's duty to let them know what's up.
Purple belt is a stick shift S-10 - you can pick up hitchhikers (introduce noobs), ...all with decent efficiency.
Brown belt is the Mustang - you can travel any road with speed, efficiency, and style, but you know there are faster, more efficient, and more stylish vehicles out there. As long as you stay off the ice (stick to the fundamental purpose of JJ, self defense. Mustangs are not AWD, yano) , you'll give anyone a run for their money! When an S-10 revs on you, start with a donut to put yourself behind (make a fundamental mistake and see what they do with it), then catch them, cruise beside them, and wait for them to miss third gear. Exploit their mistakes in a way that they learn from it, while also letting them know they would have lost anyway. Even if they beat you, they should know you are much faster than them.
Black belt - you prefer to drive your Tesla but you still have your past rides. This is important to remember the journey and to teach others how to ride their moped safely. By now, your garage is the envy of the neighborhood. Make sure your moped, S-10, and Mustang are kept up well - the best way to do this is to drive them often. Zero emissions. Autopilot. AWD.
Coral belt - Houston, we have liftoff.
Rickson Gracie teleports.
Bro I got my blue belt not to long ago and just seen this in my feed. I have been training since i was 9 but I'm still scared with it being my first adult rank.
What exactly is a blue belt though? With just my wrestling knowledge, couldn’t I technically beat an untrained bigger person with only grappling? I only ask to get your opinion.
Achieved the blue belt in a 1 1/2
Took me 2 years. Had to quit for 5 years due to a career change (pipeline) have just recently got back into it. More hungry now than I was then as a younger man.
I have a question Professor Ryan the person that got there blue belt in four months. Did they have previous experience in another type jujitsu besides learning Gracie jujitsu ? That’s the only way I would see them getting their blue belt in four months.
Yes and no. Yes, in that he was a beginner level practitioner who occasionally trained elsewhere, but once he became my student, I had him discard EVERYTHING, and got him to do the KJJ curriculum.
But, he was an exceptionally gifted athlete, and his first four months of training consisted of four months of 2+ hour private sessions.
I could see that now.
In some way even though you had him discard what he learned before some of that old training is still in him. So that really help him with your training you gave him. Interesting
Even when I learn jujitsu I still have the other style I study in the past. Like Kung Fu & Little bit of Grappling
Hi Ryan (Or runner of the channel)! What's your (or Daves) opinion about the change in definition of blue belt? I've heard and read that Helio defines a blue belt as someone who can subdue a larger and stronger (Untrained) opponent using Jiu Jitsu techniques. I can definitely do this, and I have been able to do this for a long time. A lot of big guys come into my Judo sessions for the first time, and they stand zero chance of not getting subbed by me in Newaza randori. I weigh 63 kg. Under Helios definition, I am probably a blue belt. If I go down to my local BJJ gym however, and roll with a fresh blue belt, or four stripe white belt, I'll normally get completely destroyed. In England where I live, most people take a year or two before getting to blue belt, and the requirement seems similar to what Kano defines as a Shodan. I think it's probably a really good thing that it takes so long to get a blue belt, but what do you think about this situation? I think it's an interesting topic. The main problem I see is that despite not being at a blue belt skill level at all, if someone walks in for their first class, we're wearing exactly the same belt, and it seems dishonest when I have over a year and a half of grappling experience, and our rolls aren't fair at all. Thanks Kama team! :)
I’m a little late to the party but I think the true definition is being able to handle a guy of any size in a fight, not handling big guys on the mats
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The longest he's had students take to blue belt was 24 months? How many training sessions a week is that
Typically 2-3. But it’ll likely be longer that that if they train less.
I'm about 20 months in training three times a week on average in 90 minute sessions and I'm still far from a blue belt and really only lost in white belt competition so far. Fat and unathletic when I started and no prior Martial arts experience whatsoever though.
But I thought two years was more average, not long.
If you have a good curriculum (Rickson’s), a good methodology (KJJ Ladder), and the correct repetition, it will be done MUCH quicker than that.
My academy is small and has a small core group of like ten training partners and they range from white to black belt, so there are no basic or beginner sessions and I don't have many different white belts to roll with. My coach is real legit, IBJJF blackbelt, higher degree Judo blackbelt, high degree Sport Ju Jutsu blackbelt and I like and respect him. There's also noone else really in convenient range. Some of the higher belts in the little group regularly medal in bigger competitions.
I've guest trained at Roger Gracie Academy in London a few times, and while it was bigger and more professional, and there are regular and big basic sessions, I missed the personal engagement between instructor and student (I think they noticed I wasn't a member the third session I attended) and I didn't sweat the entire 60 minute session. Then again I guess many there do far more than three sessions a week.
My gym doesn't have a curriculum. We have monthly focuses, focus for a month on closed guard, or on Wormguard, or x guard or something like that. I think the fact it's not fit to white belts enough is part of my problem. But I can't really change it anyway.
Thank you for your insights. What's the KJJ Ladder?
Would love a purple belt version of this!
hmmm... let me see what i can do.
Took me about 9 months to get my blue belt
I actually received it yesterday
@@isaacpadilla9490 👍🏽👍🏻👍🏿
my school holds a higher standerd 1 year each strip 4 years to get a blue belt
“Higher” or just simply “Longer?”
Just earned my blue belt last Saturday! Took a year and a half of frustration, with the plandemic, busted toes, shoulders, and bad back lol. So proud of myself for getting it, but I'm not gonna slow down one bit!
Congratulations!
@@KamaJiuJitsu thanks for your videos OSS!
Dang mine took 3 years :/ lol purple belt now though
Congrats. Did you become a purple belt faster than blue?
@@makekotor3722 A little bit. Think around 3 for blue and 2.5 for purple.
@@realjaytruth Nice. Keep up the great work.
My goal is to get all the belts in BJJ if i managed to get away from all the bad things in my life i was hooked on and what BJJ took me away from i will get all of them. And by the way BJJ is an addiction for me who is really benificial for me so that “easy” 🤔 😉💪
After two years, are you still training? Just curious and if so how is it going?
@@shrimuyopa8117 Thanks for asking, yes iam still training and still loving it. There has been some changes in gyms because my close friend received his Black belt and my brother from another mother got his Purple belt and they started their own Brazilian Jiu Jitsu School and i went with them. But all my bad habits are gone and i feel great. Still fighting a depression but iam getting there. Have a nice day 🙏👍🏻 Oss
@@johnhagebeuk8 Glad to hear it and happy to hear you are still training!
Took me 8 years. On and off
Took me 10 lol
4 months blue belt. I don't know about that
Yeah, you don’t know those individuals.
@@KamaJiuJitsu the only thing I could think of would be someone who already has PLENTY OF of experience in no gi. After all your blue belt test is based off your knowledge of positions/submissions/escapes/takedowns. Imo it takes longer than 4 months to learn Gi specific techniques about grips etc. at four months of training you have to be a low technical level regardless how many people you can tap
Not true. Doesn’t happen very frequently, but given the right conditions, it can certainly happen.
@@miguelespinoza2518 What if the guy trains every day? Or even twice a day? From what I seen it seems like people get their blue belts after a year of training 2x a week. So after 100 classes they earn their blue belts. So in 4 months that's already 110 classes they attended. Let's say they trained twice a day twice a week. That's an extra 32 classes at the end of 4 months which puts them at about 140 classes, that's almost the same as a guy training 3x a week for a year.
4 months is definitely a short period of time and the shortest person I ever heard of in real life getting their blue belt was after 7 months of training. But he was coming almost every day and doing 2 a days fairly frequently. So under the right circumstance you can earn it in 4 months, but it's definitely rare.
@@bane3991 2 days a week for only one year? I would say that's below average. Every instructors different. I would say the average is a year-and-a-half with two to three days a week. I got mine in 2 years at 2 to 3 days a week. a friend of my class started the exact same time I did he comes 4 to 5 days a week and got his in 2 years.
4 months! I train 5 times a week for about an hour. I’ve been doing it for 3 1/2 months now. About how much longer should I expect until I get blue belt?
ask your professor.
You wrote this comment about two years ago. How has your jiu-jitsu journey been and do you still train? Did you end up getting that blue belt?
nobody earns a blue belt in 4 months. cmon really..
Just like no one earns a black belt in 3 1/2 years. C’mon, really...
Some people just are phenomenally athletic and have the level of mastery over their body that jiujitsu just comes easy for them. Example of this would be the Martinez brothers, who came from break dancing background.
You could be a good wrestler and a judo black belt and be blue within a few months due to the previous experience
They should call it the target belt because every white belt is aiming for you now.
I have thought of doing it because being deaf/hard of hearing and my mind runs too fast
Nicky K.D Chaleunphone Hi Nicky, did you ever end up trying BJJ?
Also, what did you mean by “mind runs too fast”?
Do you mean that you think your mind runs fast because you’re hard of hearing? = Hard of hearing makes your mind run fast
So what I am getting from this is just keep at it? Keep showing up and busting my ass like always. Nothing really changes as long as you don't catch the blue-belt-itis. I'm not there yet but I am close (according to my instructor) and I just keep showing up, putting in work, and hoping I'm getting better. My question for you is how do I know? It is so hard to see progress in yourself. I am not in it for the belt. I enjoy class and the people that are around. I am in it for the skills and I am worried that I will get frustrated by not recognizing progress in myself. Will I survive the itis?
+The Guy just showing up and busting your hump is not enough. You need to take an inventory of all you learned as a white belt and be able to execute it at a higher level. Ever notice how an upper belt catches you with something you thought you learned how to defend? The only surprise, was that you succumbed. You knew the defense. Or at least you thought you knew it. That's someone executing at a higher level for you. There isn't really such thing as white belt, blue belt, black belt techniques, per se. There is black belt "execution," though.
In other words, if you just go in and "train" or "roll," it doesn't help you unless something in that training session measurably improved. Mat time is not enough. You need to leave having learned to do something better. I've seen guys never miss a class for two years, only to end up getting beat by another guy who comes for two months, but takes his daily improvement to heart. I've also seen a multi-year blue belt get beaten by a 1yr white belt because he won't task himself with improving his execution.
The exception to everything I said though, is the professor who promotes based on attendance. That's where you have black belts getting destroyed by blue belts that execute well. That's sad.
Kama Jiu-Jitsu thank you. I think I understand. After class I always ask myself: What went right? What went wrong? What would I do differently? I still don't really know how to measure progress. I just try to improve what I know and test out the new things we leaned that day. I can see when a technique works for me better than it used to or works on someone better than it used to. I guess I am just a pessimist and even though I can see the tool kit growing and cementing I always feel like I suck a BJJ regardless of successes.
Do you have any tips for journal structure? I just sort of free write and it makes looking back through it difficult.
What I personally do is after the training session I think what I did right and what I did wrong. Usually I always can remember some issues that I am facing on regular basis. For example, I get caught in triangle when I am passing the closed guard. I notice that after the training and think what I have to improve to eliminate that gap in my technique. If I can't find the way myself, I watch videos on youtube. One of the recent ones - I've been having troubles escaping side control - so I spoke with a brown belt that I rolled with in the class, he showed few tricks and then I also came home and watch few videos on this topic. Asking more experienced mates in the class is also a great way to improve your game.
Other than that don't bother about whether or not you are improving. You are! Trust me. I remember I had a plateau for about 4 months. I was not seeing any progress in my game at all. And then all of a sudden - BOOM! I improved a LOT! Started submitting guys who I always was losing to and overall level of my game improved significantly. But I was enjoying the journey and kept at it no matter what just because it's so much fun.
@@KamaJiuJitsu Ugh, what do I do . My school promotes on attendance all the way to brown belt as far as I can tell. I'm about to get a purple at 3 years of going 3x a week and I really don't think I deserve it.
If you're earning a blue belt in four months, the standards are quite low.
And if you earn a black belt in 3.5 years, it’s more so?
@@KamaJiuJitsu In fairness, if one trained everyday, multiple times per day... Almost 1,300 hours of BJJ, I can't reasonably say it's outside the realm of possibility. I suppose this makes my previous statement ridiculous.
i'm just thinking about BJ Penn, Caio Terra, and undoubtedly several others.
We had a wrestling coach come into our gym and he earned a blue belt in 4 or 5 months. He easily assimilated the information.
Been training 4/5 hours a week for close to 2 years now still white
4 years 1-2 hours still a white belt
No stripes? You should be close to blue now. I’m no stripes after 1 year
@@Steincooperfieldritzenheimer now a blue 2 stripes
52 blue belt
I think attendance doesn’t really demonstrate everything. There could be a student going every day, 5 or 6 days a week and then there’s the other student going 3 days a week who has way better technique than the student going every day. So attendance does not show everything.
I agree.