Your adaptor is fine. It's the gas bottle that is the problem. In the EU it seems they have an anti refill valve inside. You can take the O ring retainer, the 0 ring and then the schrader valve out. Then with a 2mm drill bit, drill out the little rubber ball. Put the valve back in and the 0 ring and retainer and you should be good to go.
@@Beta250trials Hi, I’m having the same problem not being able to refill a 400 gr propane canister (Rothenberger). When you say “valve”, do you mean the primary valve in the blue canister? I’ve tried two adapters, one with a hose and one direct (as you show here).
What you're doing wrong is on the blue tank you need to pull on the lil pin on the side while you are refilling then let it go when the gas starts to come out
Refill 1 lb bottle close 20lb valve remove 1 lb bottle from adapter while 20 lb bottle stays attached to adapter also invert 20 lb bottle to transfer liquid propane
I'm sure you've figured it out by now that you need an adapter for your bleeder valve. In Australia all LPG bottles have such a valve for refilling as it let's the air inside the cylinder out as the LPG is forced in. BTW. It's a total NO NO to put LPG into a Butane tank. They are not the same thing.
@@turboturd7954 They are very different. LPG is heavier than air while Butane is lighter than air.LPG doesn't burn as hot so you need more of it for the same neat. In other words Butane stores more energy. You can only buy Butane in non-refillable canisters. Other than they are exactly the same.
@@turboturd7954 That's good to know as its easier and cheaper to use LPG, especially if you can use the Butane canisters. Filling them has always been my concern.
@@bicanoo_magic3452 In a butane dedicated stove, using butane, the butane jets will burn a "tuned" smoother, tamer and more even flame compared to a lpg refill. When using lpg in a dedicated butane stove. Flame burn is not as petite, its more angry and uneven, but still gets the job done. If you change your butane jets to slightly larger, it will burn lpg correctly. But its just as easy to add say 30% butane in with 70% lpg/propane when I fill the tank to have a smoother burning mix without changing any jets, but again, its not necessary. Gas is Gas, as in its flammable, but depending on the type, butane or lpg. Both flame types are tuneable using jets or mix's. Only major difference is lpg burns better when colder and like what you said, they have different gravity effects.
I think it is more a pressure difference. I guess if the empty canister is fed from a full canister the pressures will equalise, but if you then also cool the empty canister h activity( pressure) of the 'empty' canister is further reduces, so it will take more of the liquid gas than at ambient temp.
The pressure in the originating tank will barely change. The receiving tank will acquire the same pressure as the originating tank. Cooling the receiving canister will further liquify gas contents at same pressures with originating tank. Be very careful not to fill up with liquid. The canister will not be able to hold the pressure when it returns to ambient temperature if it’s completely filled with liquid. This is because liquids are (nearly) incompressible and will try to expand when it heats up. This is very dangerous because you cannot visually see the liquid content. Weighing the canister may help but be aware that different liquids will weigh differently.
The only time the pressure in the originating tank will change is when it runs out of liquid. Pure butane is about 34 psi at 25deg C (?). It will remain at this pressure until all liquid butane runs out. Or if the temperature changes dramatically.
Will this work with the gas regulator or do I have to have an adaptor that will go straight onto the tank I've tried turning the tank upside down with a gas regulator and I still just get gas no liquid
Yeah I will but I'm not trying to fill up tins though I'm trying to use the butane to extract THC from cannabis I'm sick of buying little tins and I would rather just try and use one of these big ass tins but I can't get the liquid out just gas very low pressure but I will work it out eventually but if anybody has any ideas please let me know ones that won't get me blown up preferably
@@Beta250trials I think the trick to get in cylinders to fill up is they get in the liquid to come out normal gas pressure will not work you will need some type of pump to suck the gas out and pump it into a new container unless you can get it to come out liquid form
Most of these stove canister will refill and touch lighter, with out any modification > but i want to refill the stove canisters, They don't have a over fill valve. Reason save on money and reused the canisters for my camping stove He hee >> i do know 1 thing the filling tank need to be turn up side down for the liquid to run into the canister or things to refill
Vince Austin hi ya I've done that but still nothing flows..I've even cooled the empty cylinder nothing ..I think it's the adapter has a one way valve and it's somehow stuck. ..I'll pull it bits and take a look if I sort it I'll post it
For the blue propane tank, You gotta pull the stem with pliers in the small hole. Allows the gas to enter. Uncle figured that one out
You have to flip it up side down to get the liquid out. Being under pressure doesnt make bring the liquid to the top. Trust in gravity.
Your adaptor is fine. It's the gas bottle that is the problem. In the EU it seems they have an anti refill valve inside. You can take the O ring retainer, the 0 ring and then the schrader valve
out. Then with a 2mm drill bit, drill out the little rubber ball. Put the valve back in and the 0 ring and retainer and you should be good to go.
thanks mark ill give that a try
@@Beta250trials how did it go?
@@juslitor i tried another valve its fine now was faulty
not true. I'm in EU and I refill all the time
@@Beta250trials Hi, I’m having the same problem not being able to refill a 400 gr propane canister (Rothenberger). When you say “valve”, do you mean the primary valve in the blue canister? I’ve tried two adapters, one with a hose and one direct (as you show here).
How can I refill butane cartridge (the one you paused video to go get at 8:25) with 9kg gas bottle?
How do you call that adapter that goes on piercable can 4:45
www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=adapter+butain+refil&crid=1ONRRPTYF9P7I&sprefix=adapter+butain+refil%2Caps%2C119&ref=nb_sb_noss
@@Beta250trials not that (the thing you use to make piercable can into screw can)
You have to press the bike valve looking thing to purge the air out and fill the cylinder up 😊
good learning of diy job of refilling .great thank you for sharing
Put both bottles together and turn red tank upside down then open
What you're doing wrong is on the blue tank you need to pull on the lil pin on the side while you are refilling then let it go when the gas starts to come out
Thanks yer I figured it out that works but I did have a bad adapter got that replaced and all good
Refill 1 lb bottle close 20lb valve remove 1 lb bottle from adapter while 20 lb bottle stays attached to adapter also invert 20 lb bottle to transfer liquid propane
Good video. Just bought the small adapter to have a go at refilling.
Same mate you been doing it?owt go wrong?
So how can i fill the blue one on the right using the single use only blue one on the left cause that is very very cheap
Forgot the name it's the small brass adapter ther should be plenty on ebay
Can you refill the big red cannister with the smaller spray can style ones. is there an adaptor.
Hi not that i know of but if you find one let me know thanks
I'm sure you've figured it out by now that you need an adapter for your bleeder valve. In Australia all LPG bottles have such a valve for refilling as it let's the air inside the cylinder out as the LPG is forced in. BTW. It's a total NO NO to put LPG into a Butane tank. They are not the same thing.
they are the same thing, lpg has butane
@@turboturd7954 They are very different. LPG is heavier than air while Butane is lighter than air.LPG doesn't burn as hot so you need more of it for the same neat. In other words Butane stores more energy. You can only buy Butane in non-refillable canisters. Other than they are exactly the same.
@@bicanoo_magic3452 in answer TO YOUR QUESTION, I put lpg in butane canister and vise versa for years and I have no issues.
@@turboturd7954 That's good to know as its easier and cheaper to use LPG, especially if you can use the Butane canisters. Filling them has always been my concern.
@@bicanoo_magic3452 In a butane dedicated stove, using butane, the butane jets will burn a "tuned" smoother, tamer and more even flame compared to a lpg refill. When using lpg in a dedicated butane stove. Flame burn is not as petite, its more angry and uneven, but still gets the job done.
If you change your butane jets to slightly larger, it will burn lpg correctly. But its just as easy to add say 30% butane in with 70% lpg/propane when I fill the tank to have a smoother burning mix without changing any jets, but again, its not necessary.
Gas is Gas, as in its flammable, but depending on the type, butane or lpg. Both flame types are tuneable using jets or mix's. Only major difference is lpg burns better when colder and like what you said, they have different gravity effects.
Surely the pressures will equalise and volumes will be half for each cannister if they are the same volume?
yup i know but its still not flowing must be a faulty valve
I think it is more a pressure difference. I guess if the empty canister is fed from a full canister the pressures will equalise, but if you then also cool the empty canister h activity( pressure) of the 'empty' canister is further reduces, so it will take more of the liquid gas than at ambient temp.
The pressure in the originating tank will barely change. The receiving tank will acquire the same pressure as the originating tank. Cooling the receiving canister will further liquify gas contents at same pressures with originating tank. Be very careful not to fill up with liquid. The canister will not be able to hold the pressure when it returns to ambient temperature if it’s completely filled with liquid. This is because liquids are (nearly) incompressible and will try to expand when it heats up. This is very dangerous because you cannot visually see the liquid content. Weighing the canister may help but be aware that different liquids will weigh differently.
The only time the pressure in the originating tank will change is when it runs out of liquid. Pure butane is about 34 psi at 25deg C (?). It will remain at this pressure until all liquid butane runs out. Or if the temperature changes dramatically.
Where do you get the £1 cans?
Well there use to be that price from any pound shop but now i have no idea as everything has gone up
can someone put a link for the adaptor at 9:02 ?
Dont know exact name try search ebay ..Camping Stove Butane Gas Metal Adapter Convert Fuel Canister
Hi guy's thanks for all help it did turn out to be a faulty valve...
Will this work with the gas regulator or do I have to have an adaptor that will go straight onto the tank I've tried turning the tank upside down with a gas regulator and I still just get gas no liquid
Hi bud not fully sure about a regulator never done it let me know if it works or if you find out
Yeah I will but I'm not trying to fill up tins though I'm trying to use the butane to extract THC from cannabis I'm sick of buying little tins and I would rather just try and use one of these big ass tins but I can't get the liquid out just gas very low pressure but I will work it out eventually but if anybody has any ideas please let me know ones that won't get me blown up preferably
@@TheMono25 will do bud
@@Beta250trials I think the trick to get in cylinders to fill up is they get in the liquid to come out normal gas pressure will not work you will need some type of pump to suck the gas out and pump it into a new container unless you can get it to come out liquid form
Propane tank needs to be upside down large tank
Most of these stove canister will refill and touch lighter, with out any modification > but i want to refill the stove canisters, They don't have a over fill valve. Reason save on money and reused the canisters for my camping stove He hee >> i do know 1 thing the filling tank need to be turn up side down for the liquid to run into the canister or things to refill
Can u sent me this adapter plzzzz sir
Sorry I dont have it anymore . but you can get them on Ebay
for the wintertime i refill them with propane
FYI - propane has 4-5 times the vapor pressure of butane. Butane canisters not designed for 120 PSI.
STOP DON'T REFILL WITH PROPANE
Sorry to say This is poor information do not play with gas refilling if you do not understand about these gasses.
Did you turn the big LP tank upside down?
Nicholas Klucker hi man yer I did nothing must be a faulty adapter. .
Put the blue one in the freezer for about 20mins
Depress the bleed valve off centre while filling
Vince Austin hi ya I've done that but still nothing flows..I've even cooled the empty cylinder nothing ..I think it's the adapter has a one way valve and it's somehow stuck. ..I'll pull it bits and take a look if I sort it I'll post it
Beta250trials i have the same problem maybe a small hole on the side would work I'll try Friday
Vince Austin hi man it turned out to be a bad valve got a replacement it's good now...cheers
Most boring video that doesnt show how to refill from butane bottle
Get yourself organised man,and know what you are talking about!!!