Great video with concise honest comments. I have a homebrew CNC router running an 800w water cooled spindle on 120v. It seems to have better power than the palm router it replaced and it it significantly quieter. It is limited to a 1/4" collet though. You may be working on a 240v solution for the dust collector and your options will be unlimited then. One more comment, some 48" projects can be done in one pass with enough clearance for the bit if you place them diagonally instead of square.
Love the content and frankness you bring. I have had a small desktop cnc for a year and a half which is how long I have been watching you. I have wanted a OneFinity since then but the price is my barrier. Although I know it can pay for itself quickly but I still struggle with the selling portion of the process so for now I wait. Keep it real sir!
I am one of the original pre-orders for the original woodworker series machines. I am really needing to upgrade to an ATC and it's looking like PWNCNC has a solution if I purchase an Elite series. However, Stepcraft has an out of the box solution and I can't find any spec sheets to accurately compare the two machines. They are dead on even with price.
Thank you for this overview. I have had my Journeyman Elite only since the end of last year, so I am still getting to know it. I am using it for my business, which is building speakers - mass loaded transmission line speakers, to be exact. I have had occasional glitches - that my working theory *may* be happening because of power issues - and that is it starts cutting about 1/4"-1/2" off in X and Y, and occasionally an 1/* off in Z axis. This has happened maybe 4 times over the ~4 months? Just often enough to be really annoying. I am cutting 18mm Baltic birch, that I have had cut to the pieces I need, to minimize the waste due to kerfs. I have either had to repair or discard about 6-7 pieces, which may not sound horrible, but at first I had *no* spare material, because a pair of speakers is coming from one 5x5 sheet. So, I will be putting a power filter on the MASSO, and hopefully this put these glitches behind me? And yes - dust collection is a frustration, too. For me it's the 2.5" vacuum hose - it tugs a bit on the dust boot and the magnets aren't strong enough, and I end up breaking things; on the plexi or the brackets.
Two hints: ensure you are doing your maintenance and removing any wood dust from the rails/ball screws and their bearings; put ferrite chokes on all the wires to reduce the probability of EMI glitches; ground the cables, spindle, dust hose to prevent the buildup of static electricity.
@@cyberhikerdd Thanks for the suggestions - I would guess that the ferrite chokes go close(r) to the MASSO? Static electricity is less likely as I am in my damp cool basement.
I bought a Power Route XL, from MillRight CNC, with the 220v 2hp spindle upgrade. The work area is about 50"x50", but it was about $6750, with shipping, back in 2019. Not crazy expensive, but not cheap. I recently added a minit pc and a touch screen to make it more user friendly.
How do you like that xfasten tape? I bought the 1 inch wide stuff and love it, but see you have the much wider roll. The only issue I’m having with it so far is when it’s right under the tool path for a profile cut, it tends to really stick to the MDF where the bit seems to melt it a tad. It only happens when the bit goes through the material completely, but not into the spoil board.
I truly love your attitude and videos. Now, I can totally relate to the not having 220v as it's been a week since I've had a leg of incoming service conductor to my home has been missing. I'm just lucky I'm a beginner and don't rely on my CNC for an income. I don't have a router that would bit as a backup, so I am basically Out Of Luck. I've had bids to fix the problem that range from $7000 to $30000, yep that is 30K. Anyhow, I feel your pain to be without the 220v. Good luck Hamilton, I do enjoy the passion.
I have the same issue with my little Makita... I LOVE the machine, but I feel like the Makita really stretches. I may end up building up the waste board... I don't use the T-track anyway. Don't have the money for a spindle right now - and don't have 220 V in the garage. Agree with the dust collection, is essential.
I'd cover those smooth rods and ball screw so no dust can enter it from the side. I've designed my CNC with the linear rails and ball screw that is mounted on 160x40mm extrusion facing away from the work area. And with a high gantry I can fit laminate boards on top of the extrusions so most of the dust stays inside the work area. And dust collection makes sure most of it doesn't even enter the work area.
You should consider the AltMill from Sienci Labs. 4x4, ball screws, closed loop stepper motors, and stiffer than 1F Elite Foreman. And less expensive. Comes with a table and spindle.
Keep in mind it might be better to just order the bare machine and source your spindle as the one included as an option has an er16 collet, not er20 which accepts 1/2" shank bits. But it is still cheaper that's for sure. @ron0126
So I really enjoyed the video. I didn't go with onefinity, but was going back and forth on the machines, between 1F and the S5Pro. I think they both have their pros and cons. I wouldn't necessarily crown either of them "King of Hobby CNC" though. I like that I get the true 48x48 cutting area. I like the rigidity. I wish I had the masso controller. That is the main thing I feel it lacks, but that being said, it has not caused any issues for me in any of my projects. I enjoy that Carbide3D has made it so that they can provide the machine, spindle and software. Overall, they do a good job. Because of that, it also makes it limited to get a true ATC, which may have me upgrading to masso on my S5Pro. Thanks for the review!
Absolutely love my 1F (buildbotics) Journeyman. I don't often need the entire cutting area but when I do it is sooooo nice to have. I'm a hobbyist and have made some really nice cribbage boards for friends (they have brought on tears of joy-not ready for that at all 🤣) By no stretch of the imagination do I consider myself a pro but I would say to those folks just getting into it...#1 do your research #2know what you mainly plan on doing with your cnc #3realize there will be growing pains and bumps along the way. Absolutely love your screw driver analogy it is so so so true. Also, my Mitz inspired enclosure is a HUGE bonus... I would absolutely go through that build again, why? well there are times that dust collection isn't a thing you can do and it contains the absolute mountains of dust and chips carving creates.
Quick question What’s the floor space that it takes up? I recently saw a vid where they have one of these on wheels that folds up and that might be the reason I get one seeing as to how limited I am in my workspace
Ditto on the size grip! Not just One Infinitely but all mfg of CNC machines. Wood sheets are standard sizes, give me the carving area to utilize every inch of the wood sheet.
You do an incredible job with your videos. I’ve learned my entire woodworking knowledge from RUclips, and you definitely are in the correct place to help newcomers like myself.
I just upgraded my Journeyman from a X-50 to Elite, and while I think it’s an awesome upgrade, information and instruction on setting up the MASSO is a bit lacking. While I think I mostly have it figured out now, I had to hunt everywhere to find help on tool change, homing, multiple tool pathing, MDI commands etc. I think a video showing some of these steps would be awesome. There is another creator that comes close to a video similar to what I suggest, Mitchell’s woodworking, but he misses a bunch. A video showing how to program in your first bit in your MASSO, how to setup for multiple tool changes using a tool setter, parking, tool change location, changing post processor in your VCarve. Etc….maybe some useful MDI commands, like changing the time, the Txx M06 command, etc. The move from Black Box to MASSO was huge in terms of order of operations.
While it’s just preorders right now, in a few months I truly believe the ALTMILL by Sienci Labs will take the crown as the new king of hobby CNC machines.
I was swayed from the onefinity towards the longmill and altmill because they have the spindle attachment also, shame onefinity has not got this for their machines.
@@skallinator Sorry my bad, I meant a 4th axis rotary. when I looked last which was some time ago, you can fix one up to it but as far as I know there isnt a dedicated 4th axis, I could be wrong now as I have viewed their web site recently.
Please do a Onfinity VS Shapeoko 5 pro to really see who the "KING" is The Shapeoko 5 pro doesn't need 220v for it's spindle, it can also cut a true 48x48, It can also do "Tiling" for a true 4'x8' sheet cut. It also comes with a waste table with "T" track and hold-down clamps It also has a time estimation The Shapeoko only cost $4900 delivered for everything listed above (Including spindle, dust collection, clamps & bits)
Totally agree 5pro is one up on 1F I feel I added Masso controller to my 5pro and now it's the perfect machine . Plus tubes are not as rigid as extrusions,plus the ball screws are out of way of all the wood and metal chips .
If any machinist out I haven't seen any videos of these machines do they have D value or cutter comp on end mills, M functions, what G codes, MDI . I'm used to fanuc control
Thanks for this video; finally, a simple and intelligent callout to 1F for fixing or designing their machines better. To clarify, first and foremost, I want them to 1) fix dust collection to handle 4" hoses. 2) Support spindles! 3) Redesign Z slider for clearance limitations. Remember, "Infinite Possibilities....as long as you limit yourself to our poor design choices that we refuse to fix years later." They finally caved and fixed the complete lack of cable management by including drag chains, and put on big boy pants going with Masso, why can't they continue to "improve" the other aspects of their machines and not just by making them bigger?
1) just use an adapter, 2) spindles can easily be used (over 60% of our users use a spindle), but noted. 3) we have the largest z clearance out of any hobby cnc....
Great video Hamilton and if they are going to make your beer flight surely they are going to need a bottle opener I wonder were they could find a video on a wall hung opener? CNC with me
Really wish i had gone with onefinity instead of a shapeoko 5. I picked it because i thought having an "out of the box" solution was worth it as a total noob. That has some value, but it's skewing heavily towards valuing the beginning of your journey. Sure, getting up and running quickly is nice, but if you end up doing this a long time that noob period ends up being a tiny fraction of your experience. Now i wish i had just gone with the superior machine and accepted the up front headache to figure it out.
It seems like your QWC legs provide much more stability than mine. I have a lot of shaking with my setup. Everything is tight and level.. any pointers?
I need a recommendation on a cnc that can do a larger diameter on rotary. I like to make custom posts and mail box polls. I want to be able to make larger diameter posts and poles. Any recommendations?
You made great points about the machine making money for you but you have to work at it. I recently had someone get a CNC and he was asking a lot of the questions about sales, revenues and such. Something that I don't think gets brought up enough on videos of CNC creators but I pointed out to him is how much time the logistics of running one of these are in comparison to making money. Client interaction, design, machine set up payment verification....etc. took much more time than just building/carving items. How fast can you take the conversation and turn it into a working design? Get really good at the programming stuff and be able to be fast. Any way great content on this one. I have the 32x32 buildbotics. Looking to upgrade next couple months and your comment about the 48x48 or the 48x32 makes perfect sense. Really like the idea of throwing a 1/2 sheet on there and being done but making one more cut on a piece of plywood or even just tiling here and there is an option. Keep up the good work.
Hmm... it would be nice, indeed, if the Masso would show the operation time. I haven't realized that until now, because I don't really suffer from it - when I do may toolpaths in Fusion, it tells me the time it takes. And so far, it has been quite accurate. But I haven't done really big and/or detailed projects. Oh, but if maybe someone else (that you completely trust :D) does the project for you and only gives you the program to run, then it doesn't matter if the software showed them the time, you would need to know it as well when starting the program and throughout the program running. So, it would be really useful if Masso would also show the work time, and even more useful maybe to show something like "Remaining time / Total time" or "Processed / Total". Maybe also per toolpath and for the entire project. The more I think about this now, the more it sounds like something that should have been implemented since day 0 :)
Not to run Onefinity down by any means but it sounds like everything that your machine is lacking, a Shapeoko 5 pro has. #1 A dustboot, #2 The ability to cut a true 48 inches, #3 a time estimation of the project that you are running, and #4 It comes complete for those of us who want a complete package instead of trying to figure what we need as beginners all at a price that at the time that I bought mine was slightly less than the 1F due to the shipping from Canada.
I agree with a bit of that. shapeoko does a lot of things well and I hear some really great stuff about them. I should have said "Dust accordion" instead of dust boot (thats my bad) I think they have done really well with cutting out a lot of confusion for first time machine buyers!
@@BeaulieuTodd Hmmm. That's odd. I believe that they're designed for the center of the bit to be able to go 48". Could be wrong, but that's been my belief.
I really dislike all of the aftermarket dust boots for this machine. They were all designed by people that very clearly have absolutely no clue about fluid dynamics. I ended up designing my own 4" dust hose connection from scratch.
I don't have dust collection right now, he said. Then you complain about getting dust in the ball screws, a self inflicted problem. Why? Hamilton you're a smart Guy. Maybe I missed the reason why. Best, Fred
only onefinity owners make the claim of this being the best cnc machine. Its never rooted in fact. I mean truthfully this video proves why onefinity isnt the best. (I own a onefinity and shapeoko and prefer the shapeoko). My shapeoko 5 pro has literally had 0 down time and the onefinity has had numerous issues. Masso is the only advantage over the shapeoko
@@emostorm7 sus in what way? I bought the OF due to the hype online and the electronics being so advanced and my obsession with having the newest nicest stuff. Issues with the stepper motors, then the masso unit which OF sent me to Masso to handle. Once that was fixed is how i discovered it was infact the steppers. I bought the Shapeoko 5 pro due to the OF being out of commission. It was preowned and has worked flawlessly.
@JayReevesCLT yeah I see your points there. I just haven't had the problems you've had. Maybe the shapeoko 5 puts 1f to shame. I've never owned a shapeoko so, idk. God Bless
Don't think too much about "estimated times" It's not really mind blowing that the masso controller doesn't have it. While estimated completion time is common for laser cutters/engravers, its not in the CNC business. A lot of the bigger, professional machines like the high end of shopsabre, high end of camaster, etc using wincnc, and they do not have an estimated completion time. Just not something that really exists in the industry. And obviously Aspire's time estimate is pretty worthless.
After starting on the Buildbotics version of the Onefinity I was very used to it and it helped plan out my day. Thankfully I've found a workaround with Carveco's time estimator. After a bit of back and forth with jobs I've dialed it in and it can get within less than 5 minutes of what the actual cut time will be for larger jobs. I hope that it becomes more common in the future. Who knows. Thanks for taking the time to comment!
This isn't the best machine for the money period, 1F are OK at best, tubular design is foolishness, I have a Longmill and Altmill, the Altmill will smoke that machine any day of the week honestly, and I like the fact that I have a little more control with the software and not closed in and dumbed down with the Masso, even though I kinda like the Masso but I have a 32 inch monitor and mini dell computer on my machines and I just like that better FOR ME. Nice job explaining things. I'm a CNC Machinist for a living so hope I don't sound to harsh. Good Day Partners in Crime.....LOL
Why are these companies trying to reinvent the wheel? Square steel tubing is proven. No aluminum extrusions, no round steel tubing... SQUARE tubing with regular linear rails and ballscrews. This is why PrintNC is a far better CNC than any of these hobby CNCs, at under $2k all in... only downside is you have to build it yourself.
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Great video with concise honest comments. I have a homebrew CNC router running an 800w water cooled spindle on 120v. It seems to have better power than the palm router it replaced and it it significantly quieter. It is limited to a 1/4" collet though. You may be working on a 240v solution for the dust collector and your options will be unlimited then.
One more comment, some 48" projects can be done in one pass with enough clearance for the bit if you place them diagonally instead of square.
Love the content and frankness you bring. I have had a small desktop cnc for a year and a half which is how long I have been watching you. I have wanted a OneFinity since then but the price is my barrier. Although I know it can pay for itself quickly but I still struggle with the selling portion of the process so for now I wait. Keep it real sir!
Awesome video again. Debating a machine and your explanations are informative and useful. Thank you. Now headed to CNC with me
Thanks for the update!! Helps to know how well this machine does over time.
I am one of the original pre-orders for the original woodworker series machines.
I am really needing to upgrade to an ATC and it's looking like PWNCNC has a solution if I purchase an Elite series.
However, Stepcraft has an out of the box solution and I can't find any spec sheets to accurately compare the two machines. They are dead on even with price.
Thank you for this overview. I have had my Journeyman Elite only since the end of last year, so I am still getting to know it. I am using it for my business, which is building speakers - mass loaded transmission line speakers, to be exact.
I have had occasional glitches - that my working theory *may* be happening because of power issues - and that is it starts cutting about 1/4"-1/2" off in X and Y, and occasionally an 1/* off in Z axis. This has happened maybe 4 times over the ~4 months? Just often enough to be really annoying. I am cutting 18mm Baltic birch, that I have had cut to the pieces I need, to minimize the waste due to kerfs. I have either had to repair or discard about 6-7 pieces, which may not sound horrible, but at first I had *no* spare material, because a pair of speakers is coming from one 5x5 sheet.
So, I will be putting a power filter on the MASSO, and hopefully this put these glitches behind me?
And yes - dust collection is a frustration, too. For me it's the 2.5" vacuum hose - it tugs a bit on the dust boot and the magnets aren't strong enough, and I end up breaking things; on the plexi or the brackets.
Two hints: ensure you are doing your maintenance and removing any wood dust from the rails/ball screws and their bearings; put ferrite chokes on all the wires to reduce the probability of EMI glitches; ground the cables, spindle, dust hose to prevent the buildup of static electricity.
@@cyberhikerdd Thanks for the suggestions - I would guess that the ferrite chokes go close(r) to the MASSO? Static electricity is less likely as I am in my damp cool basement.
I bought a Power Route XL, from MillRight CNC, with the 220v 2hp spindle upgrade. The work area is about 50"x50", but it was about $6750, with shipping, back in 2019. Not crazy expensive, but not cheap. I recently added a minit pc and a touch screen to make it more user friendly.
That sizing is one reason that cnc3d's qb2 is awesome. Light industrial, but with 50" capacity. I cut from half sheets all the time. It's excellent.
How do you like that xfasten tape? I bought the 1 inch wide stuff and love it, but see you have the much wider roll. The only issue I’m having with it so far is when it’s right under the tool path for a profile cut, it tends to really stick to the MDF where the bit seems to melt it a tad. It only happens when the bit goes through the material completely, but not into the spoil board.
I truly love your attitude and videos. Now, I can totally relate to the not having 220v as it's been a week since I've had a leg of incoming service conductor to my home has been missing. I'm just lucky I'm a beginner and don't rely on my CNC for an income. I don't have a router that would bit as a backup, so I am basically Out Of Luck. I've had bids to fix the problem that range from $7000 to $30000, yep that is 30K. Anyhow, I feel your pain to be without the 220v. Good luck Hamilton, I do enjoy the passion.
I have the same issue with my little Makita... I LOVE the machine, but I feel like the Makita really stretches. I may end up building up the waste board... I don't use the T-track anyway. Don't have the money for a spindle right now - and don't have 220 V in the garage. Agree with the dust collection, is essential.
Finally just catching up on my watch later list...a lot of useful information 👍
I'd cover those smooth rods and ball screw so no dust can enter it from the side. I've designed my CNC with the linear rails and ball screw that is mounted on 160x40mm extrusion facing away from the work area. And with a high gantry I can fit laminate boards on top of the extrusions so most of the dust stays inside the work area. And dust collection makes sure most of it doesn't even enter the work area.
Stop saying Onefinity is too cheap, I'm thinking of buying one.
You should consider the AltMill from Sienci Labs. 4x4, ball screws, closed loop stepper motors, and stiffer than 1F Elite Foreman. And less expensive. Comes with a table and spindle.
Keep in mind it might be better to just order the bare machine and source your spindle as the one included as an option has an er16 collet, not er20 which accepts 1/2" shank bits. But it is still cheaper that's for sure. @ron0126
So I really enjoyed the video. I didn't go with onefinity, but was going back and forth on the machines, between 1F and the S5Pro. I think they both have their pros and cons. I wouldn't necessarily crown either of them "King of Hobby CNC" though. I like that I get the true 48x48 cutting area. I like the rigidity. I wish I had the masso controller. That is the main thing I feel it lacks, but that being said, it has not caused any issues for me in any of my projects. I enjoy that Carbide3D has made it so that they can provide the machine, spindle and software. Overall, they do a good job. Because of that, it also makes it limited to get a true ATC, which may have me upgrading to masso on my S5Pro. Thanks for the review!
Brought my journey man pro and love it
Absolutely love my 1F (buildbotics) Journeyman. I don't often need the entire cutting area but when I do it is sooooo nice to have. I'm a hobbyist and have made some really nice cribbage boards for friends (they have brought on tears of joy-not ready for that at all 🤣) By no stretch of the imagination do I consider myself a pro but I would say to those folks just getting into it...#1 do your research #2know what you mainly plan on doing with your cnc #3realize there will be growing pains and bumps along the way. Absolutely love your screw driver analogy it is so so so true. Also, my Mitz inspired enclosure is a HUGE bonus... I would absolutely go through that build again, why? well there are times that dust collection isn't a thing you can do and it contains the absolute mountains of dust and chips carving creates.
Quick question
What’s the floor space that it takes up?
I recently saw a vid where they have one of these on wheels that folds up and that might be the reason I get one seeing as to how limited I am in my workspace
Ditto on the size grip! Not just One Infinitely but all mfg of CNC machines. Wood sheets are standard sizes, give me the carving area to utilize every inch of the wood sheet.
Yep, I wish everyone across the board would just up the size a few inches to clear common sheet goods.
Seems like I have seen a 50" x 50" machine somewhere, seems like a no brainer to just cut the linear guides longer.
That's why I diy-ed my own machine, fits a standard 1220x610mm sheet width wise and some room left over for a machine vice.
You do an incredible job with your videos. I’ve learned my entire woodworking knowledge from RUclips, and you definitely are in the correct place to help newcomers like myself.
Wow, thank you!
I just upgraded my Journeyman from a X-50 to Elite, and while I think it’s an awesome upgrade, information and instruction on setting up the MASSO is a bit lacking. While I think I mostly have it figured out now, I had to hunt everywhere to find help on tool change, homing, multiple tool pathing, MDI commands etc. I think a video showing some of these steps would be awesome. There is another creator that comes close to a video similar to what I suggest, Mitchell’s woodworking, but he misses a bunch. A video showing how to program in your first bit in your MASSO, how to setup for multiple tool changes using a tool setter, parking, tool change location, changing post processor in your VCarve. Etc….maybe some useful MDI commands, like changing the time, the Txx M06 command, etc. The move from Black Box to MASSO was huge in terms of order of operations.
While it’s just preorders right now, in a few months I truly believe the ALTMILL by Sienci Labs will take the crown as the new king of hobby CNC machines.
Just heard about them! Looks cool. Wish I could get one in the shop to put it against the onefinity!
I was swayed from the onefinity towards the longmill and altmill because they have the spindle attachment also, shame onefinity has not got this for their machines.
@@wck2318 I'm confused. How does it not have a spindle attachment? I have a onefinity and mounted a 2.2KW Spindle just fine.
@@skallinator Sorry my bad, I meant a 4th axis rotary. when I looked last which was some time ago, you can fix one up to it but as far as I know there isnt a dedicated 4th axis, I could be wrong now as I have viewed their web site recently.
We are also on the wait list for an ALTMill. Looking forward to playing with it!
Please do a Onfinity VS Shapeoko 5 pro to really see who the "KING" is
The Shapeoko 5 pro doesn't need 220v for it's spindle,
it can also cut a true 48x48,
It can also do "Tiling" for a true 4'x8' sheet cut.
It also comes with a waste table with "T" track and hold-down clamps
It also has a time estimation
The Shapeoko only cost $4900 delivered for everything listed above (Including spindle, dust collection, clamps & bits)
Totally agree 5pro is one up on 1F I feel I added Masso controller to my 5pro and now it's the perfect machine . Plus tubes are not as rigid as extrusions,plus the ball screws are out of way of all the wood and metal chips .
If any machinist out I haven't seen any videos of these machines do they have D value or cutter comp on end mills, M functions, what G codes, MDI . I'm used to fanuc control
Thanks for this video; finally, a simple and intelligent callout to 1F for fixing or designing their machines better. To clarify, first and foremost, I want them to 1) fix dust collection to handle 4" hoses. 2) Support spindles! 3) Redesign Z slider for clearance limitations. Remember, "Infinite Possibilities....as long as you limit yourself to our poor design choices that we refuse to fix years later." They finally caved and fixed the complete lack of cable management by including drag chains, and put on big boy pants going with Masso, why can't they continue to "improve" the other aspects of their machines and not just by making them bigger?
1) just use an adapter, 2) spindles can easily be used (over 60% of our users use a spindle), but noted. 3) we have the largest z clearance out of any hobby cnc....
Great video Hamilton and if they are going to make your beer flight surely they are going to need a bottle opener
I wonder were they could find a video on a wall hung opener? CNC with me
Really wish i had gone with onefinity instead of a shapeoko 5. I picked it because i thought having an "out of the box" solution was worth it as a total noob. That has some value, but it's skewing heavily towards valuing the beginning of your journey. Sure, getting up and running quickly is nice, but if you end up doing this a long time that noob period ends up being a tiny fraction of your experience. Now i wish i had just gone with the superior machine and accepted the up front headache to figure it out.
Perfect timing, this is the information i needed
Can you do metal on this with the spindle? Al / brass / copper/ mild steel?
It seems like your QWC legs provide much more stability than mine. I have a lot of shaking with my setup. Everything is tight and level.. any pointers?
I need a recommendation on a cnc that can do a larger diameter on rotary. I like to make custom posts and mail box polls. I want to be able to make larger diameter posts and poles. Any recommendations?
Happy to be a part of this.
Hey Hamilton, what happened to the ball screw covers your mother in law made? Would they help?
I have the elite foreman. I’m a rank amateur but damn is this a nice machine. Someday I hope to find a practical use for it!
Hi Which double side tape are you using
You made great points about the machine making money for you but you have to work at it. I recently had someone get a CNC and he was asking a lot of the questions about sales, revenues and such. Something that I don't think gets brought up enough on videos of CNC creators but I pointed out to him is how much time the logistics of running one of these are in comparison to making money. Client interaction, design, machine set up payment verification....etc. took much more time than just building/carving items. How fast can you take the conversation and turn it into a working design? Get really good at the programming stuff and be able to be fast. Any way great content on this one. I have the 32x32 buildbotics. Looking to upgrade next couple months and your comment about the 48x48 or the 48x32 makes perfect sense. Really like the idea of throwing a 1/2 sheet on there and being done but making one more cut on a piece of plywood or even just tiling here and there is an option.
Keep up the good work.
All very good points! Thanks for taking the time to write that out!
Does the oneline site controller work with the elites too like the x50?
Hmm... it would be nice, indeed, if the Masso would show the operation time.
I haven't realized that until now, because I don't really suffer from it - when I do may toolpaths in Fusion, it tells me the time it takes. And so far, it has been quite accurate. But I haven't done really big and/or detailed projects. Oh, but if maybe someone else (that you completely trust :D) does the project for you and only gives you the program to run, then it doesn't matter if the software showed them the time, you would need to know it as well when starting the program and throughout the program running.
So, it would be really useful if Masso would also show the work time, and even more useful maybe to show something like "Remaining time / Total time" or "Processed / Total". Maybe also per toolpath and for the entire project. The more I think about this now, the more it sounds like something that should have been implemented since day 0 :)
Not to run Onefinity down by any means but it sounds like everything that your machine is lacking, a Shapeoko 5 pro has. #1 A dustboot, #2 The ability to cut a true 48 inches, #3 a time estimation of the project that you are running, and #4 It comes complete for those of us who want a complete package instead of trying to figure what we need as beginners all at a price that at the time that I bought mine was slightly less than the 1F due to the shipping from Canada.
I agree with a bit of that. shapeoko does a lot of things well and I hear some really great stuff about them. I should have said "Dust accordion" instead of dust boot (thats my bad) I think they have done really well with cutting out a lot of confusion for first time machine buyers!
dust in your ball nut is such a problem. can't not agree more.
As nice as a onefinity is. I am very happy with my long mill mk1. 30 x 30.
I've heard some great things about long mill!
If you’re using a 1/4” bit, shouldn’t you be able to get 47.5”? If 1/8”, I’m guessing 47.75”? I realize neither are 48”, but still closer than 47”.
He specifically called for a half inch bit.
@@BeaulieuTodd Hmmm. That's odd. I believe that they're designed for the center of the bit to be able to go 48". Could be wrong, but that's been my belief.
NO BUGS WERE HARMED DURING THE MAKING OF THIS VIDEO..
Honestly, if your Onefinity is no longer adequate, you've grown out of the Hobby grade CNC's. Get and AVID (or your brand here) CNC.
I really dislike all of the aftermarket dust boots for this machine. They were all designed by people that very clearly have absolutely no clue about fluid dynamics. I ended up designing my own 4" dust hose connection from scratch.
Time to show your design and sell it to others.
Yes
I don't have dust collection right now, he said. Then you complain about getting dust in the ball screws, a self inflicted problem. Why? Hamilton you're a smart Guy. Maybe I missed the reason why. Best, Fred
Onefinity great machine but away from Pwncnc 110 v spindle. I regret to spend a lot of money not much different from Makita.
only onefinity owners make the claim of this being the best cnc machine. Its never rooted in fact. I mean truthfully this video proves why onefinity isnt the best. (I own a onefinity and shapeoko and prefer the shapeoko). My shapeoko 5 pro has literally had 0 down time and the onefinity has had numerous issues.
Masso is the only advantage over the shapeoko
I'm just happy you have two cnc machines! Thats great!
Yeah I've wanted to see them side by side but no videos posted yet. This comment, sounds a bit sus tbh. But glad you like your poko so much
@@emostorm7 sus in what way? I bought the OF due to the hype online and the electronics being so advanced and my obsession with having the newest nicest stuff.
Issues with the stepper motors, then the masso unit which OF sent me to Masso to handle. Once that was fixed is how i discovered it was infact the steppers.
I bought the Shapeoko 5 pro due to the OF being out of commission. It was preowned and has worked flawlessly.
@JayReevesCLT yeah I see your points there. I just haven't had the problems you've had. Maybe the shapeoko 5 puts 1f to shame. I've never owned a shapeoko so, idk.
God Bless
Don't think too much about "estimated times"
It's not really mind blowing that the masso controller doesn't have it.
While estimated completion time is common for laser cutters/engravers, its not in the CNC business.
A lot of the bigger, professional machines like the high end of shopsabre, high end of camaster, etc using wincnc, and they do not have an estimated completion time. Just not something that really exists in the industry. And obviously Aspire's time estimate is pretty worthless.
After starting on the Buildbotics version of the Onefinity I was very used to it and it helped plan out my day. Thankfully I've found a workaround with Carveco's time estimator. After a bit of back and forth with jobs I've dialed it in and it can get within less than 5 minutes of what the actual cut time will be for larger jobs. I hope that it becomes more common in the future. Who knows. Thanks for taking the time to comment!
This isn't the best machine for the money period, 1F are OK at best, tubular design is foolishness, I have a Longmill and Altmill, the Altmill will smoke that machine any day of the week honestly, and I like the fact that I have a little more control with the software and not closed in and dumbed down with the Masso, even though I kinda like the Masso but I have a 32 inch monitor and mini dell computer on my machines and I just like that better FOR ME. Nice job explaining things. I'm a CNC Machinist for a living so hope I don't sound to harsh. Good Day Partners in Crime.....LOL
Why are these companies trying to reinvent the wheel? Square steel tubing is proven. No aluminum extrusions, no round steel tubing... SQUARE tubing with regular linear rails and ballscrews. This is why PrintNC is a far better CNC than any of these hobby CNCs, at under $2k all in... only downside is you have to build it yourself.
Appreciate the content Ham! People’s perception is Their Reality! CNC for Newbie 4848 TK for Me! Thanks for all the lessons!
Bro, you sprayed over that bug!! You lose the right to complain about stuff!
I bet the bug agrees!
you should buy a 3d printer. way more fun than cnc
ruclips.net/video/_JQ0sTSiTeQ/видео.html RIP, i call bugs art critics because they always seem to show up during the finish process haha, cheers, nice video!! Ill get my hands on a cnc machine one of these days!