Wow I wish I had something to contribute to this conversation. You made what seemed to be a well thought argument for the why. Funny how I feel like I have grown just from hearing this. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
I have a weird theory, it came to me while I was listening to your video. I wonder if in the past it was much more common to have broken or missing fingers. In a time when humans were all using their hands much more and living in a much wilder world, I think hand and finger injuries would be much more common. I have a crooked ring finger on my right hand from breaking it many years ago I don't remember how or why and I am a 21st century boy. Our thumbs are more protected and typically the index middle and ring fingers in that order get damaged. Maybe thumb release was a solution to missing or unusable fingers which was more common in the past?
Typing it's entirely possible especially when you consider that the French use to remove the index and middle finger along with the thumb to end their career as an archer, the only caveat I would put on the theory is that in order for some released to work properly you still need to have an intact index finger but we're to think outside the box brother I like it 😎🏹🙏
@@blindarchershaunhenderson3769 There is no evidence that mutilating of fingers occurred. Infantry, bowmen and men at arms not of noble birth (ransomable) were just killed in the aftermath of pitched battles. At Patay bowmen who escaped the French charge were ridden down and killed. Henry V showed no compunction in killing his POW's.
Also, why thumb draw is done on foot because horseback archery is a transitional skill. You can't shoot thumb draw on horse if you can't shoot on foot. Finally, thumb draw archery comes with Khatra which is an Asiatic solution to the ancient problem of archers' paradox.
I do not think it is quite that simple,. And I believe that it is the foot archery which is the transitional skill with the heart artery being the ultimate goal, as for the various cutter techniques, these techniques developed separately and completely singularly in connection with horse artery and a more aligned with the Indian subcontinent versions of archery technique and have little to do with horse archery
You have overlooked the most obvious reason why the thumb draw is ubiquitous in Asiatic archery is the fact that for these cultures the pinnacle of archery was to be able to shoot on horseback. The thumb draw provides stability for the arrow when drawn. eg ruclips.net/video/iA0VRBt7Jnw/видео.html . Conversely, if we look at the Bhutanese traditional archers they use fingers. Why? Because they live in the mountains and do not have a mounted archery culture.
I don't think I have overlooked anything if you watch the video again you will note that I suggested that the other main reason for the development of the some draw was specifically for the use of mounted archers, as for the award being held more securely while on horse by using a thumb grip I believe that to be, incorrect , a Slovak style grip would be much more secure and a pinch grip would be even more so and would actually facilitate faster shooting whilst on horseback when does the thumb release, the pinch grip was used by some of the indigenous American tribes very successfully from horseback but they never developed a thumb releas because the pinch grip solved the problems which arose from Eurasian archery that the indigenous tribes never encountered, If anything I would say that the thumb release was possibly the least secure but that is a relative statement as all three draws methods obviously work extremely well otherwise they would not have Keep an eye out for part 2 of this vide thanks for watching and commenting 😎🏹🙏
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Wow I wish I had something to contribute to this conversation. You made what seemed to be a well thought argument for the why. Funny how I feel like I have grown just from hearing this. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Very interesting, thanks for taking time to make this video! Have a blessed day
I have a weird theory, it came to me while I was listening to your video. I wonder if in the past it was much more common to have broken or missing fingers. In a time when humans were all using their hands much more and living in a much wilder world, I think hand and finger injuries would be much more common. I have a crooked ring finger on my right hand from breaking it many years ago I don't remember how or why and I am a 21st century boy. Our thumbs are more protected and typically the index middle and ring fingers in that order get damaged. Maybe thumb release was a solution to missing or unusable fingers which was more common in the past?
Typing it's entirely possible especially when you consider that the French use to remove the index and middle finger along with the thumb to end their career as an archer, the only caveat I would put on the theory is that in order for some released to work properly you still need to have an intact index finger but we're to think outside the box brother I like it 😎🏹🙏
@@blindarchershaunhenderson3769 There is no evidence that mutilating of fingers occurred. Infantry, bowmen and men at arms not of noble birth (ransomable) were just killed in the aftermath of pitched battles. At Patay bowmen who escaped the French charge were ridden down and killed. Henry V showed no compunction in killing his POW's.
Also, why thumb draw is done on foot because horseback archery is a transitional skill. You can't shoot thumb draw on horse if you can't shoot on foot. Finally, thumb draw archery comes with Khatra which is an Asiatic solution to the ancient problem of archers' paradox.
I do not think it is quite that simple,. And I believe that it is the foot archery which is the transitional skill with the heart artery being the ultimate goal, as for the various cutter techniques, these techniques developed separately and completely singularly in connection with horse artery and a more aligned with the Indian subcontinent versions of archery technique and have little to do with horse archery
Brilliant.
You have overlooked the most obvious reason why the thumb draw is ubiquitous in Asiatic archery is the fact that for these cultures the pinnacle of archery was to be able to shoot on horseback. The thumb draw provides stability for the arrow when drawn. eg ruclips.net/video/iA0VRBt7Jnw/видео.html . Conversely, if we look at the Bhutanese traditional archers they use fingers. Why? Because they live in the mountains and do not have a mounted archery culture.
I don't think I have overlooked anything if you watch the video again you will note that I suggested that the other main reason for the development of the some draw was specifically for the use of mounted archers, as for the award being held more securely while on horse by using a thumb grip I believe that to be, incorrect , a Slovak style grip would be much more secure and a pinch grip would be even more so and would actually facilitate faster shooting whilst on horseback when does the thumb release, the pinch grip was used by some of the indigenous American tribes very successfully from horseback but they never developed a thumb releas because the pinch grip solved the problems which arose from Eurasian archery that the indigenous tribes never encountered,
If anything I would say that the thumb release was possibly the least secure but that is a relative statement as all three draws methods obviously work extremely well otherwise they would not have
Keep an eye out for part 2 of this vide thanks for watching and commenting 😎🏹🙏