This mall was my childhood. I miss the good old days of this mall with all of my heart. Both of my parents worked at this mall in the 70's, 80's and 90's. I remember the two theaters. The indoor and outdoor one. The arcade. Woolworths. Scottos pizza. Diamonds restaurant. I remember the lack of lighting. The red carpet on the floor. The potted plants and bench plastic seating.
So there was another video about the 'Psychological layout' and store selection of Malls that was really cool, but there's a reason they all have the same 5 types of stores that kind of compliment each other.
Every mall also must have dead staple GNC and Vitamin World Zale's, Kay, Sears Penny's K-mart. and you must throw in a Goodwill and a couple of churches to finish off the mall. These are all staples f a dead mall
Richmond Town Square almost died in the mid-1990s, before the renovations. I remember it being a very dark mall. I also remember that they had a bar/nightclub in the food court area. Blue Oyster Cult actually played there in the 90s. The problem is that the Cleveland area had too many malls. The area really hasn't grown much since the 60s. Today, the ones that do well are the big ones (Great Northern, South Park, Great Lakes) as well as Beachwood Place (the upscale mall with the local Nordstrom and Saks Fifth Avenue). Tower City Center has hung on for only one reason: it's the downtown transit hub. Legacy Village and Crocker Park, the local "lifestyle centers", have done just fine, for the most part.
Even Great Lakes though, isn't as strong/busy as it used to be. Even after they updated it a few years ago. My parents say there's closed stores in there.
I concur with your comment esp the timeline being around 95 as it never regained that appeal it had with the original configuration , best to've shut it down then
I knew Beachwood would kick out kids after whatever time but I had no idea about the shootings. That is not going to go well for that mall. Maybe I'll see Ace's adventures there soon enough :3
It is so sad. My mom and me use it go to this mall when I was in grade school. Had a terrific deli restaurant. Excellent corned beef sandwiches! Also, I know this has not been there for a long time, but I remember Woolworth's and their tasty grilled cheese sandwiches.
Another great video. Amazing the mall is clinging to life with a "junior anchor" (Regal Cinemas) and a collection of stores that hold on in dead malls (Bath and Body Works, GNC, Kay Jewelers, Foot Locker and, formerly, Radio Shack.) Look forward to your take on Euclid Mall (WallieB's was great too)
The escalators are not the same location for the upstairs. The escalators used to go up in the direction of the food court (before there was a food court. Macy's wing didn't exist, that was where the funky main entrance was. There used to be a shoe store on the second floor I swear that's where Al Bundy worked and called women fat.
This was my childhood mall through high school. We lost stores like Spencer’s and Barnes & Noble around 2008 but it wasn’t until around 2011 when FYE left as well that we knew it was starting to die hard. This one hurt.
Fan4life sportswear has survived 20 years in that mall, and are still going strong, they must be doing something right to be open that long in a slow center!
As a kid I experienced the first time this mall died before the late 90's remodeling. At one point there were stores and conference rooms on a second floor balcony. After a church moved in it was clear Richmond needed a refresh.
Oh! That's the one in Cleveland? Yeah, I was really surprised walking around, how a lot of the smaller stores (and most of the food court) were hanging on, despite the lack of anchors. I liked the "Richmond Town Square is NOT CLOSING!" signs, too. XD
My Dad and I use to go fir walks there in the winter. It had a ton of memories since he passed. I preferred the original pre renovation look. It brings me back to being a lot younger.
Mall owner is Mike Kohen/Retail Investment Group. Same guy/group owns my local mall which has also lost Macy's, Penney's, & now Sears. I wish his investment group would go under & leave our malls alone!!!
Nice documentation Anthony. It really did look like the magic Johnson theatre. As soon as I saw this was a Kohan property I thought "oh boy" I feel Kohan does a lot more than just talk a big game, they straight up neglect the property
I grew up going to this mall when I was very very young. I rode a lot of those kiddie rides, including the pink ice cream truck & have pictures of myself on it. Then we started going to beachwood place, and that's where most of my memories are.
You need to check out Five Points Mall in Marion Indiana. GNC closed a while ago and moved down south, Bath and Body Works just closed down last week. and the Planet Fitness that just opened is not making it any better or worse since again, Bath and Body works and a lot of other stores either closed down or moved south. Update: Just announced, Carson's, one of the two remaining anchors is set to close.
New retail development is to begin on the Macy's building next month, the building was purchased for 2 million a few months back, plus a golden corral is scheduled to be constructed this fall in the outer parcel of Macy's by the same investor, this mall still has a chance! Still some decent stores to shop up there and it's safe! Unlike the Beachwood mall down the street.
I used to live by the mall as a teen. I would ride my bike down Wilson Mills on Saturdays to go to the Mall. I remember the early 80's it would have comic book venders that filled the whole mall for a weekend. I remember standing on the second level and looking down while listening to my walkman. I live in Phoenix now but it's nice to see the Mall but sad at how even now this Mall is gone.
4:40 I noticed you mentioned great northern mall however that mall is thriving and its near the Cleveland Hopkins airport which brings in alot of traffic to that mall the mall also has the last remaining Sears store in the Cleveland area which also says alot about the mall!
Would love to see some video of the amazing bloody brown carpet from the original mall I used to pretend was lava when I was a kid as well as the crazy central stairwell
Luckly The New Towne Mall doesn't look like this yet despite losing both JC Pennys n Sears but we still have most of the original elements from the 80s when it was built
There was a cool stamp and coin shop on the small second level back in the mid-seventies. They had a super rare “inverted Jenny” stamp with the upside down airplane which they were asking $7000.00 for at the time. I remember begging my dad to buy it but he said it was too much. Now those stamps are worth around 1.5 million dollars!
1st mall i'd ever been to growing up in cleveland,though it's amazing its lasted there so long ,despite being located in one of the crappiest areas of the crappiest town located in crappy ol' state of ohio.
Funny I live in the city of Richmond...Richmond, California that is. It would have been interesting had you came this way to visit our mall. Only Hilltop Mall will no longer be considered a dying mall after a year or two. It's under new management and will be transformed soon. Stoked about that since our mall has been going down hill for at least several years. I still dig your vids keep'em coming.
Awesome content as usual if you're able to come about an hour and a half past Cleveland you should check out Findlay Village Mall it was a thriving mall for my childhood wasn't dying until someone recently it lost Kmart as an anchor years ago, but replaced it with Best Buy but I think that is gone now too along with JCPenney and maybe Sears? I'll have to look into it, but it is definitely dying and it's not a small Mall but not huge. Also on the other end if you're in Findlay you'd only be 45 minutes from Toledo and you can check out Franklin Park Mall it has bucked all trends and is huge, I think it has like 5 anchors and I wouldn't be surprised if it's the biggest mall in Ohio well over a hundred stores!
I grew up going to this mall. Back when i was a kid it was a lot busier. I haven’t been there in a few years because of the decline. I think the last time was I there I was on the 2nd floor of the JCPenney when the power went out throughout the whole mall for no reason (no storms/accidents).
Some mall to visit in PA the shenago valley mall, chambersburg mall, the point at Carlisle plaza(which still has some interior left from the mj mall), and Lebanon valley mall
I would try to get a grocery chain and pharmacy chain to feel the anchor spaces. Turn it into a enclosed city center. Post Office and satellite courthouse for tags and licenses. Restaurants and a Movie theater. I see so much potential in spaces like this the main issue I keep seeing is the debt load these properties carry and the physical condition the end up being in. Sometimes these properties haven't been properly taken care of in decades and the remodel and repair cost make it more economical to tear down and start over.
I remember back in the early 2000s when I was 6 or 7 my mom and sister took me shopping there. God damn so much has changed. So much time has passed. Alot has changed for the better though. Id rather chat on discord with my girlfriend and best friend in Colorado than live in that era again.
The Macy's at Stonestown Mall in San Francisco is closing. I heard in the news that a developer bought it and is going to put a movie theatre and grocery stores. So sad for the employees.
Richmond Heights isn't a bad area. Nearby Euclid, where Euclid Square Mall was, has been declining for years. The main problem is that the Cleveland area is stagnant popluation-wise, and the area was overbuilt with malls in the 60s and 70s. Parmatown, Westgate, Severance (all built around that time) have closed or repurposed since about 2000.
After my last comment I looked into the malls directory list and it has 165 stores with anchors Dillard's Macy's JCPenney ,Dick's Sporting Goods, and Dave and Busters, also have a newly renovated theater with a bar and grill inside as well as a locally popular bar called Bar Louie not sure if that's a chain... could be considered to have 6 Anchors if you consider the Kohl's that is in this malls rear parking lot! Franklin Park Mall Toledo Ohio
it's a shame these types of videos weren't a thing prior to the renovation. it was oozing with vintage aesthetics back then. the carpets had fat stripes of purples, mauves, and reds. the `couches` were hard, one piece, and the seat parts were scooped out so to speak. there was no food court, but there was a restaurant with nice wood paneling. a NARC arcade machine was in the center area where the stairs to the second floor were, and there was also a nice lil arcade at the end of one wing. i later worked at the babbage's/gamestop, which seems to have closed prior to these types of videos. the renovation did help for a while but obviously not in the long run.
I've made several videos about Midway Mall but I would love to see one from Anthony. Here are my vids, ruclips.net/p/PL1FZb-kBZPXlGkwolSvifOnWugpGSmN9m
I used to go to this mall since the 80s before it was renovated. There was a Woolworth's with a restaurant inside. I remember my mom bought me a Michaelangelo ninja turtle here for Christmas and I talked to it and my mom got mad at me for going through the bag Haha. I still remember the shitty old dirty red carpet.
Damn, that's just awesome! Pretty cool movie theatre toward the end, ive often wondered how these smaller movie theaters have managed to survive all this down turn, lol. Looking forward to your Euclid Square footage, even though I spent my lunch break yesterday watching WallieB26 video on it. I love how far you have come with the graphic editing, lol, as a graphic designer art nut myself, ive gotta appreciate that, lol. Great job! 😀
Many big trends of bad economics occurring for middle class and poor. For example, lots of indicators things are getting bad, such as numerous homelessness all over USA, dying malls, underemployment, and the Federal parks are not really maintained, nor watched closely. But, the court systems of USA seem to be targeting the poor, and those who are getting divorced, or accused of not being good parents. Very strange stuff going on in USA.
Anybody find any photo archive collections of this mall from the 80s (or earlier?) - Trying to find a pic of the red 'Tubes' sculpture in the entranceway to the mall foyer by Sears or JCP. PRE-95 Remodel.
John Sparks richmond mall is not closing, very surprised that he didn't mention the Macy's building was just purchased for 2 million dollars and construction for new retail there begins soon, also there are still many stores inside doing well with there repeat customer base, and they don't have nearly the crime that Beachwood place has. Also read that a golden corral is scheduled for a build out in the malls parking lot in fall of this year. So, there is still hope for this once great center!
Worked there for six years at their GameStop (which I think is gone). The mall renovation started well. Lot of major chain stores and good foot traffic. Crime, fights, and other issues took over quickly. I remember one night there being a sixty plus person fight in the food court. Drug sniffing dogs the became the norm on the weekends and you’d see people sprinting to get out. I remember seeing one grab his kid and bolt out of a service entrance. I live about six miles away in a different city now and haven’t been back in ten years. Always wondered what it looked like on the inside now. Thanks for the video!
I should add that I counted the food court restaurants as stores not sure if that's the right way or not LOL if you don't count the food court there is like a hundred 50 stores :)
Fuck ya! My sister city (and since we share the same number Sault Ste. Marie) made it into the video. I feel like we're on the map. (it showed up in the listing of stores closing)
i can remember one Friday night i ate dinner at diamonds with my family and i puked on the counter at KB Toys there at the mall back in 1982. the Woolworth was fun to kill time in while mom shopped for purses
Another DEAD Ohio mall? There is a little mall in Gastonia NC that has lost 2 of its 4 anchors and maybe 30% of the stores on the lower level are gone. Only 2 food places left in the food court. I was in there a week or so ago and the Subway owners were taking down their signs and a couple of us were talking to the guy asking when they closed. It has been about 2 weeks. Sears was the first one to go and JC Penny left last fall. Sears won't make it much longer. That is going to kill more of these malls.
I seen the CBS News story on dead malls God damn you Amazon they said its because of Amazon that no one wants too get off there ass and go shopping anymore. I would love a alive mall too walk around.
the advent of online shopping has done a lot to cripple mall traffic, yes. but I'd consider that an inevitability. the real issue has been the lack of foresight in the developing and remodeling of these malls decades ago, and an overall inability to adjust to the changing times. shady investors and sinking anchor retailers has also done more than a fair share of damage
Serious question - so where do 12-18 year old kids go to loiter / hang out these days? In the glorious late 80s this Mall was incredible (from a 9 year old perspective). Amazing arcade, [Scotto's] pizza shops, Spencer Gifts for all your blacklight poster needs, and a secret '2nd level' with nothing but weird stores and crevices to explore. And it for some reason had a mini open air library which no one really appreciated. The older version had dank Corporate Art installations in the front of each hall that included these giant red tubes you could 'yell into'.
A bit of irony and/or karma...Richmond Town Square lured Macy's away from Euclid Square Mall, built a new store for them, and pretty much helped put Euclid Square out of business ( not that it was thriving). Now it's RTS's turn...I'm sure the management of the mall has probably changed more than once since then, but one suburb stole revenue from a neighboring one, and now Richmond Heights is in the same predicament it put the City of Euclid in years ago.
Anthony help me stores are closing at the Westfield Hawthorn mall in Vernon Hills Illinois, I thought that mall was invincible given its location near several very rich suburbs north of Chicago
At least Hawthorn Center is in better shape, than most Chicago area malls. You are right it has had some closures inside in recent years, such as GameStop and FYE though. Though all malls are battling in some way, to stay alive. And at least Hawthorn has made some good moves, such as getting a new AMC theater directly connected to that mall to open up(if only that wing would fill up with more stores, or at least attract a big box store to fill tons of that vacant space), and ditto with Dave and Buster's. And unlike other malls, I bet there's a chance that they might just succeed getting something to replace Sears, whenever that company announces that store's closure down the road(to my knowledge, I still have heard NO announcement of its closure). If you think Hawthorn is bad, try visiting a different mall that is more greatly struggling with occupancy, such as Regency Mall in Racine, WI, River Oaks Center in Calumet City, IL, or The Orchards Mall in Benton Harbor, MI. Also, I'd still say Hawthorn is in better shape than say like Stratford Square in Bloomingdale, IL, which is up to 2 anchor vacancies and will soon have a 3rd once Sears closes later in 2018.
Yeah, I know what you mean about the jewelry stores closing. Though it seems like jewelry stores in malls are very slowly having a harder time everywhere, in hanging on.
The area went to shit in the 90's when white flight was just about over with, and the blacks came in. This isn't me trying to be racist, but the cost of housing in the area tanked, and the 2007 housing market drop didn't help much either. They also had other mall competition with North Randall/Rolling Acres (even though that was Akron/Canton)/Euclid Square/Great Northern/Beachwood Place. Beachwood place is primarily the reason why the other malls in the cleveland area died. The mall has been open since the 70's and still has all of its original anchors to this day...and get this, they are companies that haven't failed. Saks, Dillard's, and Nordstrom's.
...Once the anchors are gone, these places empty out pretty fast... Not enough draw without the anchor stores... Usually they're the first thing potential customers look for when they drive by... Not worth a second glance otherwise... Online shopping is slowly killing the days of the "mighty malls"...
Malls should be catering more to smaller businesses than bigger ones, this seems like a bad strategy but retailers that can just buy their own floorspace anyway will always hold that over the Mall's heads not to mention internet sales. Malls used to be bastions for major retailers, but I think if dying Malls have a future they will focus on occupancy over sheer profit.
UPDATE: June, 2018 / DealPoint Merrill, a nationwide redevelopment company has some great things in the works for Richmond Town Square. Alternative redevelopment opportunities are happening nationwide with the loss of major anchor stores. More to come for this mall: www.businesswire.com/news/home/20180118005322/en/DealPoint-Merrill-Announces-Acquisition-162190-Square-Foot
UPDATE August 2019: Richmond Town Square Mall is presently undergoing major changes. See www.BelleOaksRichmond.com for more information on the the new Class-A Mixed-Use Multi-Family and Retail Development at the previous Sears (phases 1 and 2), and JCP happening as phase 3. The previous Macy's (now CubeSmart Climate-Controlled Self-Storage opened last year and presently working on the lockers coming back). New short term leases, start-up opportunities are also happening for the holidays, and No, the Mall is NOT Closing. :-) ruclips.net/video/DvTm_n5uX74/видео.html
If you live in a town with a dying mall, it means the surrounding community is dying. High paying jobs are gone, now the lower paying jobs go, then people move out, no one buys, so they rent, rents drop, lower classes of non working people move in, welfare, followed by a slum. It's a bleak picture, but it is the truth.
That's not at all true. There are plenty of malls going out of business in prosperous areas. For example, I will point out the Vallco Mall, which is within walking distance of Apple's two main campuses in Silicon Valley.
The current owners were pushing to make it a mix use facility with housing, offices, and retail, but were voted down by residents who wanted to keep it solely retail. Other factors are in play on this one. The area is thriving but many basic economic factors are completely out of wack. You've got people in the area making six figures living in cars and in parking lots because of housing and rent prices being insane. Almost no lower middle or hell upper middle income family can afford to live in the area and they basically live in the surrounding communities and commute into work.
@fixpacifica I'd add Charlestowne Mall in Saint Charles, IL(erm now called The Quad, but noone ever calls it that), as another example of what you mean by dying mall in a very prosperous area. Correct, dead malls aren't only limited to poor and declining areas. Never mind that mall closed to the public(except its anchors an 18 screen Classic Cinemas movie theater, Von Maur, and Carson's(now closing due to Bon-Ton's companywide liquidation)), as of November 30, 2017.
When Simon renovated the mall in 1998, it was at its prime. The mall started to go downhill around 2014.
Dan Bell was right. Malls all have the same 3 problems.... Sears, Penny's, Macy's.
Or in the case of the Diamond Run mall, Sears, Penny's and Kmart, which is even worse.
The mall near my hometown has a JCPenny, Sears and Bon Ton.
This mall was my childhood. I miss the good old days of this mall with all of my heart. Both of my parents worked at this mall in the 70's, 80's and 90's. I remember the two theaters. The indoor and outdoor one. The arcade. Woolworths. Scottos pizza. Diamonds restaurant. I remember the lack of lighting. The red carpet on the floor. The potted plants and bench plastic seating.
star whisper Scottos was the BEST!!
And i kinda remember... didn't it have red plastic booths? i clearly remember the red Scottos logo.
Source: Looked into, actually was the Best Pizza.
DUDE! Those rad red bucket-benches! Crazy Art Deco Sculptures and Rad Aracde for like 5 years.... miss it.
I learned to drive in that parking lot and had no idea there was a an outdoor theater
Ironic to see an Amazon locker in a dead mall. Kind of like salt in the wound...
Gaming with The Real DudzFryd yes totally salt in the wound
every dead mall must have a bath and body works lol
lynn clayton and it has to be the original wood style bath and body works, lol
lynn clayton Don’t forget you have to have a GNC store too 🤔
So there was another video about the 'Psychological layout' and store selection of Malls that was really cool, but there's a reason they all have the same 5 types of stores that kind of compliment each other.
Every mall also must have dead staple GNC and Vitamin World Zale's, Kay, Sears Penny's K-mart. and you must throw in a Goodwill and a couple of churches to finish off the mall. These are all staples f a dead mall
lynn clayton I work in the mall and it closed along with Victoria secret in January
Richmond Town Square almost died in the mid-1990s, before the renovations. I remember it being a very dark mall. I also remember that they had a bar/nightclub in the food court area. Blue Oyster Cult actually played there in the 90s.
The problem is that the Cleveland area had too many malls. The area really hasn't grown much since the 60s. Today, the ones that do well are the big ones (Great Northern, South Park, Great Lakes) as well as Beachwood Place (the upscale mall with the local Nordstrom and Saks Fifth Avenue). Tower City Center has hung on for only one reason: it's the downtown transit hub.
Legacy Village and Crocker Park, the local "lifestyle centers", have done just fine, for the most part.
Even Great Lakes though, isn't as strong/busy as it used to be. Even after they updated it a few years ago. My parents say there's closed stores in there.
I concur with your comment esp the timeline being around 95 as it never regained that appeal it had with the original configuration , best to've shut it down then
Beachwood Place has had two shootings outside of Saks in the past year. I'll be surprised if an anchor is still there in five years.
I knew Beachwood would kick out kids after whatever time but I had no idea about the shootings. That is not going to go well for that mall. Maybe I'll see Ace's adventures there soon enough :3
Great Lakes is getting entertainment that should help.
It is so sad. My mom and me use it go to this mall when I was in grade school. Had a terrific deli restaurant. Excellent corned beef sandwiches! Also, I know this has not been there for a long time, but I remember Woolworth's and their tasty grilled cheese sandwiches.
There was a magic store tucked away on the second floor in the late 70’s/early 80’s that I loved going to as a kid.
Another great video. Amazing the mall is clinging to life with a "junior anchor" (Regal Cinemas) and a collection of stores that hold on in dead malls (Bath and Body Works, GNC, Kay Jewelers, Foot Locker and, formerly, Radio Shack.) Look forward to your take on Euclid Mall (WallieB's was great too)
Grew up going to this mall. 2000-2010 were the prime years for me.
I’ve been here, there’s something so creepy about seeing a shell of a place that used to thrive...
This made me miss my childhood mall.Thanks,Ace-yet another good one!!
The escalators are not the same location for the upstairs. The escalators used to go up in the direction of the food court (before there was a food court. Macy's wing didn't exist, that was where the funky main entrance was. There used to be a shoe store on the second floor I swear that's where Al Bundy worked and called women fat.
This was my childhood mall through high school. We lost stores like Spencer’s and Barnes & Noble around 2008 but it wasn’t until around 2011 when FYE left as well that we knew it was starting to die hard. This one hurt.
Fan4life sportswear has survived 20 years in that mall, and are still going strong, they must be doing something right to be open that long in a slow center!
As a kid I experienced the first time this mall died before the late 90's remodeling. At one point there were stores and conference rooms on a second floor balcony. After a church moved in it was clear Richmond needed a refresh.
wow! your picture is really High Definition - so clear and sharp! Great job!
A new upload always makes my day
Oh! That's the one in Cleveland? Yeah, I was really surprised walking around, how a lot of the smaller stores (and most of the food court) were hanging on, despite the lack of anchors. I liked the "Richmond Town Square is NOT CLOSING!" signs, too. XD
another good job, ace!
My Dad and I use to go fir walks there in the winter. It had a ton of memories since he passed. I preferred the original pre renovation look. It brings me back to being a lot younger.
I LOVE THE LOGO AND AND THE MUSIC!!! 😍😍😍😍
I really want to miss that mall and the movie theater too😢
Mall owner is Mike Kohen/Retail Investment Group. Same guy/group owns my local mall which has also lost Macy's, Penney's, & now Sears. I wish his investment group would go under & leave our malls alone!!!
From 2000-2009 this was the place to hangout at every weekend
Nice documentation Anthony. It really did look like the magic Johnson theatre. As soon as I saw this was a Kohan property I thought "oh boy" I feel Kohan does a lot more than just talk a big game, they straight up neglect the property
Nice video, can't wait for the next one.
In Miami we have a mall called south land mall and it’s always BOOMING with customers and it open up in 1960! And it’s pretty cool there
I grew up going to this mall when I was very very young. I rode a lot of those kiddie rides, including the pink ice cream truck & have pictures of myself on it.
Then we started going to beachwood place, and that's where most of my memories are.
You need to check out Five Points Mall in Marion Indiana. GNC closed a while ago and moved down south, Bath and Body Works just closed down last week. and the Planet Fitness that just opened is not making it any better or worse since again, Bath and Body works and a lot of other stores either closed down or moved south.
Update: Just announced, Carson's, one of the two remaining anchors is set to close.
New retail development is to begin on the Macy's building next month, the building was purchased for 2 million a few months back, plus a golden corral is scheduled to be constructed this fall in the outer parcel of Macy's by the same investor, this mall still has a chance! Still some decent stores to shop up there and it's safe! Unlike the Beachwood mall down the street.
HA! I was at that JC penny the last day it was open, wish i still had the pictures from my old phone-- the big clusters of mannequins were creepy
The Kays Beauty he walks past around 6:03 used to be a KB Toys. That was my favorite place growing up
I’ve been to this mall! I haven’t been here in over a decade, so I’m surprised! I’ve been to that theater a number of times!
Wow I use to work there not long ago. Crazy
I used to live by the mall as a teen. I would ride my bike down Wilson Mills on Saturdays to go to the Mall. I remember the early 80's it would have comic book venders that filled the whole mall for a weekend. I remember standing on the second level and looking down while listening to my walkman. I live in Phoenix now but it's nice to see the Mall but sad at how even now this Mall is gone.
Nice work :)
Yay! Fresh!
Awesome content!
4:40 I noticed you mentioned great northern mall however that mall is thriving and its near the Cleveland Hopkins airport which brings in alot of traffic to that mall the mall also has the last remaining Sears store in the Cleveland area which also says alot about the mall!
Would love to see some video of the amazing bloody brown carpet from the original mall I used to pretend was lava when I was a kid as well as the crazy central stairwell
Luckly The New Towne Mall doesn't look like this yet despite losing both JC Pennys n Sears but we still have most of the original elements from the 80s when it was built
There was a cool stamp and coin shop on the small second level back in the mid-seventies. They had a super rare “inverted Jenny” stamp with the upside down airplane which they were asking $7000.00 for at the time. I remember begging my dad to buy it but he said it was too much. Now those stamps are worth around 1.5 million dollars!
1st mall i'd ever been to growing up in cleveland,though it's amazing its lasted there so long ,despite being located in one of the crappiest areas of the crappiest town located in crappy ol' state of ohio.
At least it was not Randal Park Mall :D
This mall wasn't that far from Randall park mall and from what I can remember there was severance mall and Beachwood place nearby there too
@@RyGuy0520 Beachwood place is still thriving. Severance is closed and Randall is closed.
@@IK_4 yep
Funny I live in the city of Richmond...Richmond, California that is. It would have been interesting had you came this way to visit our mall. Only Hilltop Mall will no longer be considered a dying mall after a year or two. It's under new management and will be transformed soon. Stoked about that since our mall has been going down hill for at least several years. I still dig your vids keep'em coming.
We're going to miss all these malls one day
No way, it is an exact replica lol that's so cool❤
Awesome content as usual if you're able to come about an hour and a half past Cleveland you should check out Findlay Village Mall it was a thriving mall for my childhood wasn't dying until someone recently it lost Kmart as an anchor years ago, but replaced it with Best Buy but I think that is gone now too along with JCPenney and maybe Sears? I'll have to look into it, but it is definitely dying and it's not a small Mall but not huge. Also on the other end if you're in Findlay you'd only be 45 minutes from Toledo and you can check out Franklin Park Mall it has bucked all trends and is huge, I think it has like 5 anchors and I wouldn't be surprised if it's the biggest mall in Ohio well over a hundred stores!
I grew up going to this mall. Back when i was a kid it was a lot busier. I haven’t been there in a few years because of the decline. I think the last time was I there I was on the 2nd floor of the JCPenney when the power went out throughout the whole mall for no reason (no storms/accidents).
Danielle Rudolfsky You know a mall is dying when it has a Planet Fitness in it
I use to live in Richmond Heights years ago. The power would go out all time for no apparent reason.
Apparently the Victoria's Secret and B&BW left, they aren't on the online directory anymore.
Those skylights are so inspiring. Would have been awesome to walk into this mall in its heyday. Mall is closed now.
If your in the state of Indiana you need to visit the Mounds Mall in Anderson,Indiana
Are you still in the Cleveland area I’m a huge fan! Really enjoy your videos live right near here!
Some mall to visit in PA the shenago valley mall, chambersburg mall, the point at Carlisle plaza(which still has some interior left from the mj mall), and Lebanon valley mall
York galleria the last mall in York isn't doing so good either and Harrisburg east mall
I would try to get a grocery chain and pharmacy chain to feel the anchor spaces. Turn it into a enclosed city center. Post Office and satellite courthouse for tags and licenses. Restaurants and a Movie theater. I see so much potential in spaces like this the main issue I keep seeing is the debt load these properties carry and the physical condition the end up being in. Sometimes these properties haven't been properly taken care of in decades and the remodel and repair cost make it more economical to tear down and start over.
What is the music at the start of the video? I love it!
This is so sad, it’s such a nice mall.. I hope it’s saved somehow
I remember back in the early 2000s when I was 6 or 7 my mom and sister took me shopping there. God damn so much has changed. So much time has passed. Alot has changed for the better though. Id rather chat on discord with my girlfriend and best friend in Colorado than live in that era again.
The Macy's at Stonestown Mall in San Francisco is closing. I heard in the news that a developer bought it and is going to put a movie theatre and grocery stores. So sad for the employees.
What's the name of the song playing in the background while touring the mall of Richmond Town Square?
Great video! Where did this mall go wrong? Are the Cleveland suburbs overloaded with malls? Crime/Bad area? Or ??
Richmond Heights isn't a bad area. Nearby Euclid, where Euclid Square Mall was, has been declining for years.
The main problem is that the Cleveland area is stagnant popluation-wise, and the area was overbuilt with malls in the 60s and 70s. Parmatown, Westgate, Severance (all built around that time) have closed or repurposed since about 2000.
After my last comment I looked into the malls directory list and it has 165 stores with anchors Dillard's Macy's JCPenney ,Dick's Sporting Goods, and Dave and Busters, also have a newly renovated theater with a bar and grill inside as well as a locally popular bar called Bar Louie not sure if that's a chain... could be considered to have 6 Anchors if you consider the Kohl's that is in this malls rear parking lot! Franklin Park Mall Toledo Ohio
it's a shame these types of videos weren't a thing prior to the renovation. it was oozing with vintage aesthetics back then. the carpets had fat stripes of purples, mauves, and reds. the `couches` were hard, one piece, and the seat parts were scooped out so to speak. there was no food court, but there was a restaurant with nice wood paneling. a NARC arcade machine was in the center area where the stairs to the second floor were, and there was also a nice lil arcade at the end of one wing. i later worked at the babbage's/gamestop, which seems to have closed prior to these types of videos. the renovation did help for a while but obviously not in the long run.
You should check out the Fremont outlet mall. Half of it’s ok, but half of it is dead. With a few really odd fun shops
What's this funky music it sounds so good like that mall food court music lol
Another great Dead Mall video! Will you be visiting Midway Mall in Elyria, Ohio?
I've made several videos about Midway Mall but I would love to see one from Anthony. Here are my vids, ruclips.net/p/PL1FZb-kBZPXlGkwolSvifOnWugpGSmN9m
I used to go to this mall since the 80s before it was renovated. There was a Woolworth's with a restaurant inside. I remember my mom bought me a Michaelangelo ninja turtle here for Christmas and I talked to it and my mom got mad at me for going through the bag Haha. I still remember the shitty old dirty red carpet.
There is a mall that's dead near me called Virginia center commons it's in richmond Virginia
We're looking at it. :-)
Damn, that's just awesome! Pretty cool movie theatre toward the end, ive often wondered how these smaller movie theaters have managed to survive all this down turn, lol. Looking forward to your Euclid Square footage, even though I spent my lunch break yesterday watching WallieB26 video on it. I love how far you have come with the graphic editing, lol, as a graphic designer art nut myself, ive gotta appreciate that, lol. Great job! 😀
I made a craft project a few weeks ago in honor of the 'Toys R Us' building that was near there.
Many big trends of bad economics occurring for middle class and poor. For example, lots of indicators things are getting bad, such as numerous homelessness all over USA, dying malls, underemployment, and the Federal parks are not really maintained, nor watched closely. But, the court systems of USA seem to be targeting the poor, and those who are getting divorced, or accused of not being good parents. Very strange stuff going on in USA.
Do Virginia Center Commons in Richmond, VA
Anybody find any photo archive collections of this mall from the 80s (or earlier?) - Trying to find a pic of the red 'Tubes' sculpture in the entranceway to the mall foyer by Sears or JCP. PRE-95 Remodel.
This might sound like an odd question to ask, but I was wondering what type of music Genre Waterfront Dining would be considered?
Rathorc Lemenger vaporwave
First Euclid Square, now Richmond Mall. So sad.
John Sparks richmond mall is not closing, very surprised that he didn't mention the Macy's building was just purchased for 2 million dollars and construction for new retail there begins soon, also there are still many stores inside doing well with there repeat customer base, and they don't have nearly the crime that Beachwood place has. Also read that a golden corral is scheduled for a build out in the malls parking lot in fall of this year. So, there is still hope for this once great center!
Don't forget Randall park
Did they let you in Euclid Square mall or did you sneak in?!
A planet fitness in a mall? Now I’ve seen everything
This mall looks like it is in decent shape Ohio seems to have been hit hard
Worked there for six years at their GameStop (which I think is gone). The mall renovation started well. Lot of major chain stores and good foot traffic. Crime, fights, and other issues took over quickly. I remember one night there being a sixty plus person fight in the food court. Drug sniffing dogs the became the norm on the weekends and you’d see people sprinting to get out. I remember seeing one grab his kid and bolt out of a service entrance. I live about six miles away in a different city now and haven’t been back in ten years. Always wondered what it looked like on the inside now. Thanks for the video!
I should add that I counted the food court restaurants as stores not sure if that's the right way or not LOL if you don't count the food court there is like a hundred 50 stores :)
Fuck ya! My sister city (and since we share the same number Sault Ste. Marie) made it into the video. I feel like we're on the map. (it showed up in the listing of stores closing)
i can remember one Friday night i ate dinner at diamonds with my family and i puked on the counter at KB Toys there at the mall back in 1982. the Woolworth was fun to kill time in while mom shopped for purses
Another DEAD Ohio mall? There is a little mall in Gastonia NC that has lost 2 of its 4 anchors and maybe 30% of the stores on the lower level are gone. Only 2 food places left in the food court. I was in there a week or so ago and the Subway owners were taking down their signs and a couple of us were talking to the guy asking when they closed. It has been about 2 weeks. Sears was the first one to go and JC Penny left last fall. Sears won't make it much longer. That is going to kill more of these malls.
I seen the CBS News story on dead malls God damn you Amazon they said its because of Amazon that no one wants too get off there ass and go shopping anymore. I would love a
alive mall too walk around.
the advent of online shopping has done a lot to cripple mall traffic, yes. but I'd consider that an inevitability.
the real issue has been the lack of foresight in the developing and remodeling of these malls decades ago, and an overall inability to adjust to the changing times.
shady investors and sinking anchor retailers has also done more than a fair share of damage
Bro you should go to the Concord mall at Elkhart Indiana
El Tizón this friday!
That Sears had three stories at one point didn't it?
Yes it did. The parking lot dipped down so you could access the lower level from the parking lot.
The last time i went to this mall was right before jcp closed
Serious question - so where do 12-18 year old kids go to loiter / hang out these days?
In the glorious late 80s this Mall was incredible (from a 9 year old perspective). Amazing arcade, [Scotto's] pizza shops, Spencer Gifts for all your blacklight poster needs, and a secret '2nd level' with nothing but weird stores and crevices to explore. And it for some reason had a mini open air library which no one really appreciated. The older version had dank Corporate Art installations in the front of each hall that included these giant red tubes you could 'yell into'.
Proverbialfunk most are on thier device or are more into organized sports. Anything to keep them out of trouble i guess
Jennifer Jones haha ya good point. Part of me feels bad for them but then they won't miss what they never had.
Proverbialfunk I think In N Out are now a hotspots to loiter, at least that’s how it is here in the west coast
Agent_of_Chaos true that! I swear here in Utah the hangouts keep changing, lol
A bit of irony and/or karma...Richmond Town Square lured Macy's away from Euclid Square Mall, built a new store for them, and pretty much helped put Euclid Square out of business ( not that it was thriving). Now it's RTS's turn...I'm sure the management of the mall has probably changed more than once since then, but one suburb stole revenue from a neighboring one, and now Richmond Heights is in the same predicament it put the City of Euclid in years ago.
Does Waterfront Dining have a channel on RUclips? Like their music.
904 CZV search them on bandcamp.com
Ace's Adventures thank you!
Where is the GNC. :)
The Vitman Idk where’s the bath and body works
Inside the first 1000 views!
Anthony help me stores are closing at the Westfield Hawthorn mall in Vernon Hills Illinois, I thought that mall was invincible given its location near several very rich suburbs north of Chicago
It still has Sears Macy's JCPenney and Carson's which are the 4 original anchors but when I was little it was 100% occupancy
At least Hawthorn Center is in better shape, than most Chicago area malls. You are right it has had some closures inside in recent years, such as GameStop and FYE though. Though all malls are battling in some way, to stay alive. And at least Hawthorn has made some good moves, such as getting a new AMC theater directly connected to that mall to open up(if only that wing would fill up with more stores, or at least attract a big box store to fill tons of that vacant space), and ditto with Dave and Buster's. And unlike other malls, I bet there's a chance that they might just succeed getting something to replace Sears, whenever that company announces that store's closure down the road(to my knowledge, I still have heard NO announcement of its closure). If you think Hawthorn is bad, try visiting a different mall that is more greatly struggling with occupancy, such as Regency Mall in Racine, WI, River Oaks Center in Calumet City, IL, or The Orchards Mall in Benton Harbor, MI. Also, I'd still say Hawthorn is in better shape than say like Stratford Square in Bloomingdale, IL, which is up to 2 anchor vacancies and will soon have a 3rd once Sears closes later in 2018.
BoratWanksta true, the closures that shocked me the most were jewelry stores on 2F near the food court where the 4 wings join up
Yeah, I know what you mean about the jewelry stores closing. Though it seems like jewelry stores in malls are very slowly having a harder time everywhere, in hanging on.
What is the name of this particular Waterfront Dining song?
mukalukahalawala I'm trying to figure it out also!
mukalukahalawala found it!! It's called "hey somebody"
Sweet, thank you! Waterfront Dining has actually become my new favorite artist in listening to his stuff trying to find the song.
The area went to shit in the 90's when white flight was just about over with, and the blacks came in. This isn't me trying to be racist, but the cost of housing in the area tanked, and the 2007 housing market drop didn't help much either. They also had other mall competition with North Randall/Rolling Acres (even though that was Akron/Canton)/Euclid Square/Great Northern/Beachwood Place. Beachwood place is primarily the reason why the other malls in the cleveland area died. The mall has been open since the 70's and still has all of its original anchors to this day...and get this, they are companies that haven't failed. Saks, Dillard's, and Nordstrom's.
...Once the anchors are gone, these places empty out pretty fast... Not enough draw without the anchor stores... Usually they're the first thing potential customers look for when they drive by... Not worth a second glance otherwise... Online shopping is slowly killing the days of the "mighty malls"...
Malls should be catering more to smaller businesses than bigger ones, this seems like a bad strategy but retailers that can just buy their own floorspace anyway will always hold that over the Mall's heads not to mention internet sales. Malls used to be bastions for major retailers, but I think if dying Malls have a future they will focus on occupancy over sheer profit.
Just like the industries and factories of the US.
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UPDATE: June, 2018 / DealPoint Merrill, a nationwide redevelopment company has some great things in the works for Richmond Town Square. Alternative redevelopment opportunities are happening nationwide with the loss of major anchor stores. More to come for this mall: www.businesswire.com/news/home/20180118005322/en/DealPoint-Merrill-Announces-Acquisition-162190-Square-Foot
Just add zombies.
UPDATE August 2019: Richmond Town Square Mall is presently undergoing major changes. See www.BelleOaksRichmond.com for more information on the the new Class-A Mixed-Use Multi-Family and Retail Development at the previous Sears (phases 1 and 2), and JCP happening as phase 3. The previous Macy's (now CubeSmart Climate-Controlled Self-Storage opened last year and presently working on the lockers coming back). New short term leases, start-up opportunities are also happening for the holidays, and No, the Mall is NOT Closing. :-) ruclips.net/video/DvTm_n5uX74/видео.html
So you're turning a mall in a notoriously poor area of Cleveland into luxury apartments?? Who the heck is gonna be able to afford the apartments?
If you live in a town with a dying mall, it means the surrounding community is dying. High paying jobs are gone, now the lower paying jobs go, then people move out, no one buys, so they rent, rents drop, lower classes of non working people move in, welfare, followed by a slum. It's a bleak picture, but it is the truth.
That's not at all true. There are plenty of malls going out of business in prosperous areas. For example, I will point out the Vallco Mall, which is within walking distance of Apple's two main campuses in Silicon Valley.
The current owners were pushing to make it a mix use facility with housing, offices, and retail, but were voted down by residents who wanted to keep it solely retail. Other factors are in play on this one. The area is thriving but many basic economic factors are completely out of wack. You've got people in the area making six figures living in cars and in parking lots because of housing and rent prices being insane. Almost no lower middle or hell upper middle income family can afford to live in the area and they basically live in the surrounding communities and commute into work.
@fixpacifica I'd add Charlestowne Mall in Saint Charles, IL(erm now called The Quad, but noone ever calls it that), as another example of what you mean by dying mall in a very prosperous area. Correct, dead malls aren't only limited to poor and declining areas. Never mind that mall closed to the public(except its anchors an 18 screen Classic Cinemas movie theater, Von Maur, and Carson's(now closing due to Bon-Ton's companywide liquidation)), as of November 30, 2017.