Text on the box: Instructions For opening and saving of the zinc boxes whit martial bulets hermetically packed. 1.Take the box whit left hand and whit the right take the ring that is on the tape whit whom the kid is soldered to the box. 2.Pull carfully on right without twisting the bar. 3.In case that the ring is broken, the bar is remove whit pilers and open. 4.After opening and taking out the bullets, the bar and the top of the box must be put in the box and then in the chest for keeping and sending back to the storage of the military unit. 5.Be carfull for the opening and for the keeping to not deform the box and lid. 6.The box, lid, the bar whit the ring must to be maintain healthy. 7.Its forbiden the boxes to be used for outher perposes. 8.The affixing of various objects in the box that would make it hurt or drilled. Storage of the box separate from the chests be avoided. The packages of bullets: Plant - 10 16 combat pistol cartridges 7.62 mm caliber plain or submachine pistols
Easy to open these if have ever had a tin can that came with a key for opening. Just roll it back rather than yank on it. Rolling the strip back gives more uniform force applied and you wont rip the tab off.
This is Bulgarian ammo, just like NotAGunGuy says. At 2:06 is a good shot of the box front. [I will show the Cyrillic letters first, then translate them into Latinate letters] The upper left field indicates the caliber, ammo type, and case type *7.62 ПГЛ* (7.62mm PGL, stands for _Pistolet Gil'za Latun'_ - [Russian > "Pistol [ammo], Brass Case"]). The lower left field reads *1600 БР.* (1600 _BR._ stands for _Broĭka_ [Bulgarian > "Pieces"]), meaning the crate holds 1600 "items" or cartridges. (Each tin holds fifty 16-round packets of ammo for a total of 800 rounds per can). The upper right field reads *31-10* , which means "Lot #31, packed at Factory 10" and the center right field reads *IV-53* , which means the lot was packed in April (the fourth month, indicated by the Roman numeral "IV"), in year 1953. The bottom right field reads *П30 No.8 14/53 10K* . *П30 No.8* ("P30 No.8") is the propellant type. P30 stands for Pistol 30 (the 7.62mm Tula-Tokarev TT-30/33 self-loading pistol) and No.8 is the formula of propellant used. The standard ComBloc packaging style shows the propellant batch as a fraction, with the propellant batch number over the 2-digit year of production ( *14/53* ), with the powder mill number or letter ( *10K* ) shown to the right. This indicates Batch #14 of year 1953, made at Factory 10K. At 6:20 is a shot of the ammo tins. The ink stamp on the tins inside is very faded, but should read *7.62 ПГЛ* ("7.62mm PGL") on the upper field and *31-10 П30 No.8 14/53 10K* ("Lot #31, Factory 10; P30 No.8 14/53 10K") on the lower field. The Headstamp at 12:53 is a star at 12 o'clock, the 2-digit year ( *53* ) at 6 o'clock, a Cyrillic letter *З* (or "Z", standing for _Zavod_ , or "Factory") at 9 o'clock and the factory code number ( *10* ) at 3 o'clock. So the 9 o'clock and 3 o'clock positions spell out *З 10* ("Z[avod] 10"), or "Factory 10". The star indicates that it is a brass case, rather than bimetallic (tombak-plated steel). Factory *10K* or Factory *((10))* is the modern-day ARSENAL factory in Kazanlak, Bulgaria. The complex contained both a cartridge factory and a powder mill. It was the third Factory 10 in the Communist Block, explaining why it has a double oval around its number. The K in 10K stands for Kazanlak.
The Soviet soldiers used a piece of wood from the box, cut a slit in it longways and used it like a can opener to roll the retaining strap off like a sardine can opener.
Ammo never “really” expires. I explained that to someone as I fired Korean War era 30.06 reloads that are 150 grain steel core and loaded hot as hell. Came loaded in the M1 garand clips, not magazines, and made my Remington 700 jump off the bench with the bipod. I bet this ammo performed as well as it was intended in 1946.
Wow, pretty strict instructions. They even tell you with which hand to hold the can(left) and with which hand to pull the ring(right) and how to do so(by pulling right without twisting).Also, there seems to have been strict rules about returning the zinc cans (for recycling I presume). From 4 to 8 it's all about what to do after it's open. Thank you for the interesting video, it was very exciting to watch. P.S. Another thing I've noticed - there's a lot of metal dust accumulated throughout the years, please take safety precautions when dealing with such gear, inhaling 60 year old metal dust is sure to be dangerous!
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Nice, my dad was probably not even foreseen in '53..... damn that just gives me a nice perspective of surplus ammo and guns. And some guy ( probably in the city of Kazanluk where the number 10 factory is ) was packaging this. Thanks for calling Bulgaria a soviet block country as opposed to part of the CCCP, a lot of people I meet think, Bg was part of "Mother Russia". And funny you should pick that name to blame.... my dad is called Vladimir, so a lot of nice references I found in this unboxing. and BTW, just think of the guy that packaged it.... see if he could wrap his mind in '53 around what just happened... A guy in the US just pulled out the nails he nailed in in 2015... coool
Back in the day when this ammo was dirt cheap, I bought a couple tins. Crates of the 7.62x54r stuff as well as the 5.45x39 7N stuff... I was always too lazy to open them so I just used the commercial stuff. I'm glad I did. Hard to find this stuff. Too bad it's corrosive. But I think I'll just keep these. Thanks I enjoyed video...
I still have unopened crates of 7.62x54 for my nagant and 7.62x39 for my sks. Those crates cost me about 60 bucks in the early 90s. The 91/30 was 45 and I got my sks for 70. Pric3es have skyrocketed since which probably means they are finally about out.
Isn't it incredible how overbuilt and tough some military surplus is? no wonder it was for sale decades after the wars it was meant for ended. Good for camping and general use. I've got a heavy duty canvas bag with reinforced corners and, click snaps, and strap. It was meant for a radio but I use it as a range bag.
It is strange to think that most of the people who produced that ammo back in 1953 are probably dead by now in 2021. 25yo would be 93 now. But it is still extremely enjoyable to watch the opening of such cans.
Re: headstamp - What looks like a 3 is the Cyrillic Z, standing for "Zabod" which means "factory or plant". The 10 is the number of the plant, and 53 is of course the date. So the star indicates gov't production at Plant #10 in 1953. The sheet inside the lid says, "Instruktsiya", directions for (probably) opening the cans. You will also find the word Zabod followed by 10.
This is a really cool time machine.... ! I wonder how much a round trip on that airline was back in the day ?! Honestly I would love to also hear the backstory on how this stuff became to be packaged and saved back in 1953? Whoever had the foresight to do this was extremely smart. I’m hoping there’s a really cool story behind it and not somebody just scavenging ammo lol either way it should make a cool story. Thank you very much for posting this i’m sure you had a blast. 🤘
Thank you! Yeah, I really wonder the story behind this crate from manufacture and packaging, to surplus storage, to finding its way across the Atlantic Ocean. It must have passed through a lot of different people's hands along the way. Amazing it didn't either get a) shot, b) lost, or c) destroyed over the last 6 decades. I couldn't help thinking about the voyage when I loaded these into magazines, slammed the mags home, and squeezed the trigger. I am glad you appreciate the purpose of the video. The whole thing was much more than seeing how fast I could tear things open to get what I knew was already inside. Sadly a lot of the critics of this video simply don't get it.
This is best ammo, as to ballistics and lethality. The powder and primers are corrosive and do decay, so expect a few non firing rounds and variations in velocity. I used to get crates such as this for $20-25 USD and over 90% were great rounds. I once got a pallet that had 3 crates showing that at one time they must of been fully immersed in water, all round were still great. This is one of most under appreciated rounds out there. Some were boxed but most had number of rounds in paper as his is. Not just 62 year dirt, rounds were lubricated by a powder of some sort. The pink box were for the full auto matic just a very slight increase in powder grains, but bullets were same Surprizingly all will penetrate, even out of short Takarov pistol barrels, level 3 soft body armor. Reason these surplus ammo rounds are available is Because Bulgaria is being reearded due to their aiding illegal weapons to Syrian, moderates¿¿¿¿¿¿, Iraq Military, Kurds, Afghan Military, masdive contracts for AK weaponry and Ammo. Vostly to our out of sight progrsm and is reason why pentagon is asking for comtract bids to build them here and for non auto capsble AR as well. Also for contrscts of US owned ammo manufacturrs. In some States an individual is not allowed to buy bulk ammo.
I'm imagining some dude digging up this old crate (or finding it in the corner of an old warehouse), then opening it and seeing all these nicely wrapped rounds. For some reason this thought gives me a calm pleasure.
Glad you took your time. I saw another guy open one and it had a hand written note in it. He crumbled it up and threw it away. He got a lot of negative comments for that. Who knows what it said, ya know. I'm a fan of the wooden boxes too lol
Thanks a lot man. I am glad some people out there can appreciate what I was trying to do. There are a lot of knuckleheads who can only complain that I "took too long". Like 15 minutes versus 1 minute is that big of a deal when the whole purpose is to try to document a piece of history.
It's kinda bizarre looking back, this ammo was so cheap at one point that the place I bought it from would throw in a case with a 50$ purchase. I used to smash them into splinters when loading PPSH mags for a range day. Now, I just wish I had the spent brass. I'm trying to baby my ol' PPSH, so I only run light reloads through it.
Holy shit bro...watching this aggravated the piss outta me. it's meant to be pulled straight out. Watching you wiggle the tab back and forth made me cringe knowing it would snap off. Good video though. Thumbs up
I hear you. It aggravated the piss out of me but I learned the hard way. I figured I could at least show people how not to do it. I'm not the type to pretend I don't screw up or edit out things that might not make me look perfect. At least I know now for how to tackle the next tin. Thanks for the thumbs up.
next time try crossing your arms a couple more ways. see if that helps. oh and if you just carefully wiggle the tab back and forth over and over it will cleanly break off- every time. this should work for you even if you are blind. no need to look at it and pull it in the obvious dirrection if its gone.
Stalingrad, day 28: We have assembled for attacking but are still waiting for Ordnance platoon to issue ammo for PPSH. Comrade Kommisar ran toward German lines last night, yelling: “After me!”. He has not returned.
I got some 1954 production Sellier & Bellot military surplus 7.62x25, and it also has the three-dot crimp on it (in fact, some of the cases got cracks right along those dots. Inside is packaged in 70-round boxes, which seem to be in much better condition than your packages. Stuff runs pretty good out of my Yugo Military M57 (not to be confused with the Zastava M57).
Oh very cool. I haven't heard of the S&B surplus. Where did you find it? I know the new production S&B 7.62x25 is *HOT*. My chrony tests were around 100-200 fps faster (out of a 10" barrel) than anything else if I remember correctly. I need to post the results in a video at some point ...
I'm guessing that "Instructsiya" means that the text below are the instructions. Somewhere there's an app you can put on a smart phone that will do live translation of foreign text using the phone's camera. It shows English translation of Russian text, for example. BTW, you _might_ have been able to leave that strap nailed onto the lid, and then used it as an ersatz hinge for the box.
+Dte MoCo Absolutely! I am sure that these could be opened a *lot* faster if you don't care about keeping the original crate in decent condition. But hey, where's the fun in that?
Opening a metal ammo crate is a difficult job,how soldiers can open in life threatening situations and what tools they need to use for opening in dangerous situations. Bullets were packed in low quality papers because non commercial storage but how dust entered in a sealed container ? It means a leakage was there which was left during sealing the cane. Can a 50 year old ammo work which is not properly sealed? By GR Jamali from Pakistan.
Sure they'll all go bang. Corrosive priming lasts forever, especially in a sealed zinc box. Just soak your gun down with ammonia to neutralize the corrosive salts and clean as normal.
I was expecting a lacquer-like odor (kind of like the surplus 7.62x54r spam cans) but there really wasn't much of a scent. If I recall, there was a bit of an old dusty smell, if that makes any sense. [short answer: IT SMELLED LIKE FREEDOM]
got my tin (now i know how to play with the tab to get it open) and ive never had a problem with the bulgarian surplus. fires great, flat shot only have to deal with the fact that it is steel core and corrosive.
Hey thanks man. I was trying to be careful opening everything since it was so old, so it took longer than normal. I did live fire test them and they all fired perfectly and without a single misfire/dud. I have some video, but I've been a slacker and haven't edited it (yet). The only down side is all the brass cracked near the neck after firing, so they weren't reloadable.
NotAGunGuy thanks for your rapid response.About the brass is comprehensive, given the metal fatigue or rust, I don't know.Anyway, keep doing videos like this, that would be very interesting.
Solder? maybe try reheat with solder iron at the start. Couldn't imagine 'Sir, we need reloads ASAP the enemy is gonna route us" 2hrs later....'Got the 1st box open, now to load the mags'
Thanks man I really appreciate that. I have been super lazy with posting some follow up videos, so I haven't been producing a lot of content. I have hours of shooting video I just haven't been able to edit yet, but hopefully over the next couple months I'll get those up. I did put this together though ruclips.net/video/ND_rIA5RTWQ/видео.html Thanks for the sub!
If I'm not mistaken, there are two weak links in the CZ52. First is the firing pin, which is prone to breakage (never dry fire a CZ52!) due in part to substandard steel in the original. This has nothing to do with the type of round of course. I think the CZ52's biggest weakness is the fairly complicated rollers/cam system to compensate for the power of the 7.62x25 round. I haven't had any problems (yet) with my CZ52, but I have had a slide pin break on one of my TT's. Both are great pistols in my opinion.
NotAGunGuy I read and heard the same things. I have two that are near mint, un refurbished that are closet queens and one that is in almost the same condition, but I replaced the firing pins, springs and rollers so I could shoot it. You can feel the difference in the dirty corrosive surplus ammo from the red army stuff... I love these old commie surplus firearms...
Hello Bulgaria! Not quite sure where you might get one. I ordered online from SG Ammo here in the U.S.A. I have to imagine that some crates are still hidden somewhere in your country though.
I had the same old Bulgarian 762x25 ammo. Over the years I've opened Soviet,Albanian,Bulgarian, Polish, Romanian, East German,Chinese,Pakistan,Turkish in hermetically sealed steel cans. In doing so, what I learned over the years is that it's best to be cautious and to take all necessary precautions. You have found out there is Lead Dust all over the metal and wood boxes. Such is dangerous, unhealthy and must be properly handled. Experience has shown me that it is best to open up such old military outdoor ammunition outside of the house. I wear nitrile gloves and a mask as well. I use thick Plastic bags or Sheeting or a Lawn Leaf Bag, old Newspapers as protective flooring that I lay on table or the floor, ground etc. I than start the opening up the box procedure by blessing the wood and metal can with Holy Water from a Catholic Church, as to past experiences from such old Communist war zone ammunition might have bad stuff with it. Later once the ammunition is visible some Holy Water gets sprinkled over it as well. I use a variety of tools, from the enclosed metal openers to flat head screwdrivers, hammers,pliers, cutters. Afterwards I may clean the ammunition carefully if necessary with baby wipes soaked in white vinegar or hydrogen peroxide (excellent cleaner for Lead dust). The tools used also get cleaned the same way or washed with liqued detergeant and lubed with WD40 or Ballistol. The scrap metal guy gets all leftover metals, the strap seal bands, and cans ,screws etc. Or they get placed into a recycle bin. Wood boxes, creates can be cleaned up and used for storage or get sold to Antique shops, Military Surplus store, or burned and destroyed, US Military Ammo cans work the best for long term storage.
Thank you! So the white/pink thing goes back to an Internet theory that 7.62x25 surplus Tokarev rounds in packages with pink labels were loaded dangerously hot and would make your pistol explode. I think that theory has been mostly debunked, but I didn't want to have to test it myself!
on the paper on the lid ... the bulgarian.text says that you should grab the can.with the left arm and pul the ring..with your right, without twisting, pull it tothe right
Text on the box:
Instructions
For opening and saving of the zinc boxes whit martial bulets hermetically packed.
1.Take the box whit left hand and whit the right take the ring that is on the tape whit whom the kid is soldered to the box.
2.Pull carfully on right without twisting the bar.
3.In case that the ring is broken, the bar is remove whit pilers and open.
4.After opening and taking out the bullets, the bar and the top of the box must be put in the box and then in the chest for keeping and sending back to the storage of the military unit.
5.Be carfull for the opening and for the keeping to not deform the box and lid.
6.The box, lid, the bar whit the ring must to be maintain healthy.
7.Its forbiden the boxes to be used for outher perposes.
8.The affixing of various objects in the box that would make it hurt or drilled.
Storage of the box separate from the chests be avoided.
The packages of bullets:
Plant - 10
16 combat pistol cartridges
7.62 mm caliber
plain or submachine pistols
Wow thank you sir. I have pinned this comment!
Not only did I not follow the directions, I already broke rule #7.
2. Pull up carefully to the right without a twisting
3.in case you break the ring The tape is pulled out with pliers carefully
If you need to translate another text from Bulgarian just pm me :)
Easy to open these if have ever had a tin can that came with a key for opening. Just roll it back rather than yank on it. Rolling the strip back gives more uniform force applied and you wont rip the tab off.
They must have had plans of re-using the tin cans.
I never thought some one opening a box of ammo would be interesting. I was wrong, I enjoyed it. Thanks.
There's a certain nostalgia to having these old spam cans. It's like owning a piece of antique history.
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This is Bulgarian ammo, just like NotAGunGuy says.
At 2:06 is a good shot of the box front.
[I will show the Cyrillic letters first, then translate them into Latinate letters]
The upper left field indicates the caliber, ammo type, and case type *7.62 ПГЛ* (7.62mm PGL, stands for _Pistolet Gil'za Latun'_ - [Russian > "Pistol [ammo], Brass Case"]).
The lower left field reads *1600 БР.* (1600 _BR._ stands for _Broĭka_ [Bulgarian > "Pieces"]), meaning the crate holds 1600 "items" or cartridges. (Each tin holds fifty 16-round packets of ammo for a total of 800 rounds per can).
The upper right field reads *31-10* , which means "Lot #31, packed at Factory 10" and the center right field reads *IV-53* , which means the lot was packed in April (the fourth month, indicated by the Roman numeral "IV"), in year 1953.
The bottom right field reads *П30 No.8 14/53 10K* . *П30 No.8* ("P30 No.8") is the propellant type. P30 stands for Pistol 30 (the 7.62mm Tula-Tokarev TT-30/33 self-loading pistol) and No.8 is the formula of propellant used. The standard ComBloc packaging style shows the propellant batch as a fraction, with the propellant batch number over the 2-digit year of production ( *14/53* ), with the powder mill number or letter ( *10K* ) shown to the right. This indicates Batch #14 of year 1953, made at Factory 10K.
At 6:20 is a shot of the ammo tins. The ink stamp on the tins inside is very faded, but should read *7.62 ПГЛ* ("7.62mm PGL") on the upper field and *31-10 П30 No.8 14/53 10K* ("Lot #31, Factory 10; P30 No.8 14/53 10K") on the lower field.
The Headstamp at 12:53 is a star at 12 o'clock, the 2-digit year ( *53* ) at 6 o'clock, a Cyrillic letter *З* (or "Z", standing for _Zavod_ , or "Factory") at 9 o'clock and the factory code number ( *10* ) at 3 o'clock. So the 9 o'clock and 3 o'clock positions spell out *З 10* ("Z[avod] 10"), or "Factory 10". The star indicates that it is a brass case, rather than bimetallic (tombak-plated steel).
Factory *10K* or Factory *((10))* is the modern-day ARSENAL factory in Kazanlak, Bulgaria. The complex contained both a cartridge factory and a powder mill. It was the third Factory 10 in the Communist Block, explaining why it has a double oval around its number. The K in 10K stands for Kazanlak.
Could you repeat that differently i couldn't understand
When I opened mine, I put it on the floor, one foot on it and pulled straight up. No issue
Trust me, I'll never be so gentle again with one of these cans.
Geoff Clark where did you get these btw
Geoff Clark that’s the real man kind of way of doing it.
The Soviet soldiers used a piece of wood from the box, cut a slit in it longways and used it like a can opener to roll the retaining strap off like a sardine can opener.
tripsadelica ,can see that working unless we roll wrong way lol
Yeah the dude here aint too bright
Ammo never “really” expires. I explained that to someone as I fired Korean War era 30.06 reloads that are 150 grain steel core and loaded hot as hell. Came loaded in the M1 garand clips, not magazines, and made my Remington 700 jump off the bench with the bipod.
I bet this ammo performed as well as it was intended in 1946.
Wow, pretty strict instructions. They even tell you with which hand to hold the can(left) and with which hand to pull the ring(right) and how to do so(by pulling right without twisting).Also, there seems to have been strict rules about returning the zinc cans (for recycling I presume). From 4 to 8 it's all about what to do after it's open. Thank you for the interesting video, it was very exciting to watch.
P.S. Another thing I've noticed - there's a lot of metal dust accumulated throughout the years, please take safety precautions when dealing with such gear, inhaling 60 year old metal dust is sure to be dangerous!
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why would he buy a train after getting hit?
It's amazing you have 2 subscribers given you have produced zero content other than your comedic attempt to string together something resembling a coherent sentence. Thanks for the advice about buying a train, though. I'll look into it.
Preston Berry You uhh... you arent a smart one are ya.
NotAGunGuy get’em bud
Nice, my dad was probably not even foreseen in '53..... damn that just gives me a nice perspective of surplus ammo and guns.
And some guy ( probably in the city of Kazanluk where the number 10 factory is ) was packaging this. Thanks for calling Bulgaria a soviet block country as opposed to part of the CCCP, a lot of people I meet think, Bg was part of "Mother Russia".
And funny you should pick that name to blame.... my dad is called Vladimir, so a lot of nice references I found in this unboxing.
and BTW, just think of the guy that packaged it.... see if he could wrap his mind in '53 around what just happened... A guy in the US just pulled out the nails he nailed in in 2015... coool
Looking forward to seeing you shooting this ammo and comparing it to the new production with the chronograph!
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Back in the day when this ammo was dirt cheap, I bought a couple tins. Crates of the 7.62x54r stuff as well as the 5.45x39 7N stuff... I was always too lazy to open them so I just used the commercial stuff. I'm glad I did. Hard to find this stuff. Too bad it's corrosive. But I think I'll just keep these. Thanks I enjoyed video...
I still have unopened crates of 7.62x54 for my nagant and 7.62x39 for my sks. Those crates cost me about 60 bucks in the early 90s. The 91/30 was 45 and I got my sks for 70. Pric3es have skyrocketed since which probably means they are finally about out.
3 o'clock in the morning and I just spent 15 minutes watching some clumsy dude open a box of old ammo. Sigh.
I need a life also.
Me too
Put it on the floor and pull they aren't built to fall apart. Military spec ment the same back then as it does now. Basically indestructible.
Isn't it incredible how overbuilt and tough some military surplus is? no wonder it was for sale decades after the wars it was meant for ended. Good for camping and general use. I've got a heavy duty canvas bag with reinforced corners and, click snaps, and strap. It was meant for a radio but I use it as a range bag.
It is strange to think that most of the people who produced that ammo back in 1953 are probably dead by now in 2021. 25yo would be 93 now. But it is still extremely enjoyable to watch the opening of such cans.
Your motor skills make me want to cry!
A fukking men!
Re: headstamp - What looks like a 3 is the Cyrillic Z, standing for "Zabod" which means "factory or plant". The 10 is the number of the plant, and 53 is of course the date. So the star indicates gov't production at Plant #10 in 1953. The sheet inside the lid says, "Instruktsiya", directions for (probably) opening the cans. You will also find the word Zabod followed by 10.
Это означает завод учи русский
This is a really cool time machine.... ! I wonder how much a round trip on that airline was back in the day ?!
Honestly I would love to also hear the backstory on how this stuff became to be packaged and saved back in 1953? Whoever had the foresight to do this was extremely smart. I’m hoping there’s a really cool story behind it and not somebody just scavenging ammo lol either way it should make a cool story.
Thank you very much for posting this i’m sure you had a blast. 🤘
Thank you! Yeah, I really wonder the story behind this crate from manufacture and packaging, to surplus storage, to finding its way across the Atlantic Ocean. It must have passed through a lot of different people's hands along the way. Amazing it didn't either get a) shot, b) lost, or c) destroyed over the last 6 decades. I couldn't help thinking about the voyage when I loaded these into magazines, slammed the mags home, and squeezed the trigger.
I am glad you appreciate the purpose of the video. The whole thing was much more than seeing how fast I could tear things open to get what I knew was already inside. Sadly a lot of the critics of this video simply don't get it.
You attempted to open the first can backwards, thats why it didnt work.
Glad someone else noticed that
Unused shiny pliers , non working hands and my hands smell like ass remark explains a lot
I was looking for this comment--practically yelling the whole time fir him to simply try pulling the tab in the OPPOSITE direction!
This is best ammo, as to ballistics and lethality.
The powder and primers are corrosive and do decay, so expect a few non firing rounds and variations in velocity.
I used to get crates such as this for $20-25 USD and over 90% were great rounds.
I once got a pallet that had 3 crates showing that at one time they must of been fully immersed in water, all round were still great.
This is one of most under appreciated rounds out there.
Some were boxed but most had number of rounds in paper as his is.
Not just 62 year dirt, rounds were lubricated by a powder of some sort.
The pink box were for the full auto matic just a very slight increase in powder grains, but bullets were same
Surprizingly all will penetrate, even out of short Takarov pistol barrels, level 3 soft body armor.
Reason these surplus ammo rounds are available is Because Bulgaria is being reearded due to their aiding illegal weapons to Syrian, moderates¿¿¿¿¿¿, Iraq Military, Kurds, Afghan Military, masdive contracts for AK weaponry and Ammo.
Vostly to our out of sight progrsm and is reason why pentagon is asking for comtract bids to build them here and for non auto
capsble AR as well.
Also for contrscts of US owned ammo manufacturrs.
In some States an individual is not allowed to buy bulk ammo.
I'm imagining some dude digging up this old crate (or finding it in the corner of an old warehouse), then opening it and seeing all these nicely wrapped rounds. For some reason this thought gives me a calm pleasure.
I live in michigan and the Packard was built here and I've explored the abandoned factory many times wish I could of seen it back then
You're supposed to put them in the oven on 350 degrees for 1 hour to melt the solder off so you can pull the pin to open it
Glad you took your time. I saw another guy open one and it had a hand written note in it. He crumbled it up and threw it away. He got a lot of negative comments for that. Who knows what it said, ya know. I'm a fan of the wooden boxes too lol
Thanks a lot man. I am glad some people out there can appreciate what I was trying to do. There are a lot of knuckleheads who can only complain that I "took too long". Like 15 minutes versus 1 minute is that big of a deal when the whole purpose is to try to document a piece of history.
That intro was amazing.
Haha thanks. Sometimes low-tech is a nice change in pace I guess.
I genuinely enjoyed it.
Thanks man.
Yep, abselutely amazing intro
Thanks bro. I wanted to do something low tech considering the content.
It's kinda bizarre looking back, this ammo was so cheap at one point that the place I bought it from would throw in a case with a 50$ purchase. I used to smash them into splinters when loading PPSH mags for a range day. Now, I just wish I had the spent brass. I'm trying to baby my ol' PPSH, so I only run light reloads through it.
They don't make them like they used to
Holy shit bro...watching this aggravated the piss outta me. it's meant to be pulled straight out. Watching you wiggle the tab back and forth made me cringe knowing it would snap off. Good video though. Thumbs up
I hear you. It aggravated the piss out of me but I learned the hard way. I figured I could at least show people how not to do it. I'm not the type to pretend I don't screw up or edit out things that might not make me look perfect.
At least I know now for how to tackle the next tin. Thanks for the thumbs up.
I think the biggest issue on the first box is you tried to pull it the wrong direction.
Monte PR totally agree lol..
next time try crossing your arms a couple more ways. see if that helps.
oh and if you just carefully wiggle the tab back and forth over and over it will cleanly break off- every time. this should work for you even if you are blind. no need to look at it and pull it in the obvious dirrection if its gone.
Abso-f****n-lutely
Stalingrad, day 28: We have assembled for attacking but are still waiting for Ordnance platoon to issue ammo for PPSH. Comrade Kommisar ran toward German lines last night, yelling: “After me!”. He has not returned.
Haha! Love it!!!
Why am I so mesmerized by a guy opening a box lol
Probably for the same weird reason that compelled me to make a video of it! haha ... The mystery of the unboxing video!
I got some 1954 production Sellier & Bellot military surplus 7.62x25, and it also has the three-dot crimp on it (in fact, some of the cases got cracks right along those dots. Inside is packaged in 70-round boxes, which seem to be in much better condition than your packages. Stuff runs pretty good out of my Yugo Military M57 (not to be confused with the Zastava M57).
Oh very cool. I haven't heard of the S&B surplus. Where did you find it? I know the new production S&B 7.62x25 is *HOT*. My chrony tests were around 100-200 fps faster (out of a 10" barrel) than anything else if I remember correctly. I need to post the results in a video at some point ...
On instruction was writen: While you hold with left hand open with right hand pulling to the right side.
I had the same, "HELL OF A TIME," getting my can open. I would hate to have the enemy breathing down on you while trying to get this damn can open.
... imagine a war time scenario... c’mon dude theyre getting closer... i need that bleepin ammo now... I’m workin on it... f/!@...
in Soviet Russia screw driver opens youu
Screws you
Water drinks u
lol
NOT AGAIN
In America we use the same overused joke scheme
I sure would love to see what it shoots like.
I don't have a full video on it yet, but I do shoot some of it out of a PPS43C in this video ruclips.net/video/ND_rIA5RTWQ/видео.html
I'm guessing that "Instructsiya" means that the text below are the instructions. Somewhere there's an app you can put on a smart phone that will do live translation of foreign text using the phone's camera. It shows English translation of Russian text, for example.
BTW, you _might_ have been able to leave that strap nailed onto the lid, and then used it as an ersatz hinge for the box.
boy I would not have to open that in a hurry with the Gong coming over the hill
Karl Karlson oath
Yea, they are always fun to open. Hope to see the results on the forums.
ToBeFree
+Dte MoCo Absolutely! I am sure that these could be opened a *lot* faster if you don't care about keeping the original crate in decent condition. But hey, where's the fun in that?
Opening a metal ammo crate is a difficult job,how soldiers can open in life threatening situations and what tools they need to use for opening in dangerous situations. Bullets were packed in low quality papers because non commercial storage but how dust entered in a sealed container ? It means a leakage was there which was left during sealing the cane. Can a 50 year old ammo work which is not properly sealed? By GR Jamali from Pakistan.
Sure they'll all go bang. Corrosive priming lasts forever, especially in a sealed zinc box. Just soak your gun down with ammonia to neutralize the corrosive salts and clean as normal.
whats the difference between this ammunition and the pink package ones? besides the obvious color difference
thanks. We in Bulgaria make good ammunition.
how did the 53yr old Tokarev ammo go….how many misfires…how did they battery?
Translation on the ammo boxes please I have several of these small boxes of ammo thanks.
"Plant - 10" or just 10 as it is on the cartridge, is the old name of the "Arsenal" plant, Kazanlak, Bulgaria.
As a former Ordnance Officer I have to ask, what did it smell like?
I was expecting a lacquer-like odor (kind of like the surplus 7.62x54r spam cans) but there really wasn't much of a scent. If I recall, there was a bit of an old dusty smell, if that makes any sense. [short answer: IT SMELLED LIKE FREEDOM]
It smells metallic and acidic, like lead and vinegar
Where can I order 54r spam cans?
These cans just smell like a dusty shed lol, not the earthy smelling dust though.
23 cents per gallon. That's about the same price as today. If you use the same quarter that is.
You got it. Junk silver is anything but junk!
Constitutional Silver.
got my tin (now i know how to play with the tab to get it open) and ive never had a problem with the bulgarian surplus. fires great, flat shot only have to deal with the fact that it is steel core and corrosive.
Definite Steve 1989 vibes with this video....nice!
This stuff will blast through several bulletproof vests no problem
You can never be accused of overthinking possible solutions to a mechanical engineering problem. Work smart, not hard.
The note on the lid is written in Bulgarian.
Cool soviet era box full of fun
When the soldiers opened the ammunition box and your magazines filled have, the war was already at the end !!! ;-)
Hmm, they had instructions on how to open the ammo cans? That's what the word is at the top of that paper. (Инструкция)
Wow.amazing! Would they still fire after all these time?
Hey thanks man. I was trying to be careful opening everything since it was so old, so it took longer than normal. I did live fire test them and they all fired perfectly and without a single misfire/dud. I have some video, but I've been a slacker and haven't edited it (yet).
The only down side is all the brass cracked near the neck after firing, so they weren't reloadable.
NotAGunGuy thanks for your rapid response.About the brass is comprehensive, given the metal fatigue or rust, I don't know.Anyway, keep doing videos like this, that would be very interesting.
I would assume it's not reloadable anyway. Don't they have berdan primers like most Soviet Bloc ammunition. I would assume so
Straight up then turn …. Good lord… who would have thought this would be this hard
fun video thanks.
Solder? maybe try reheat with solder iron at the start.
Couldn't imagine 'Sir, we need reloads ASAP the enemy is gonna route us"
2hrs later....'Got the 1st box open, now to load the mags'
By the time Bulgarian soldiers would have opened these boxes their enemy would have reached the capital.
I enjoyed this video much more than it is rational to do so. :-)
Yeah I was thinking the same thing as I was filming it.
Nice to see how quickly those things can be opened in a firefight!
The most important point of this ammo that it will kill even today
The easiest way to open these is with a propane touch. Heat the old solder and peel off the metal stripe.
and at the time u get that ammunitionbox opened, the war has stopped.
Yeah I don't know what I was thinking trying to take my time opening up a piece of history.
I like that information at first part of the video good job 👍
First time using pliers I see! Cool video.
on the paper its written for normal handgun and a automatic machiengun
nice opening tie-in
70yrs old.
Its zinc box ?😍
Not sure - but I know I didn't want to lick it.
I started holding my breath at 5:50 trying not to inhale that dust lol
Where did you get this from?
How the hell do you have only 500 subs ?!?
Great video mate. Really enjoyed it.
Thanks man I really appreciate that. I have been super lazy with posting some follow up videos, so I haven't been producing a lot of content. I have hours of shooting video I just haven't been able to edit yet, but hopefully over the next couple months I'll get those up. I did put this together though ruclips.net/video/ND_rIA5RTWQ/видео.html
Thanks for the sub!
Did you not see him struggle with every single aspect of this.. thats why
good presentation
Thank you Brother.
I believe the Polish surplus was made for the PPs43, SMG and is very hot round... Too hot for a pistol, except the CZ52...
+Joey P Tok TT pistol were MUCH stronger than CZ52's, the CZ52 strength vs a Tok is a myth.
+Free America You've peaked my interest. State your sources of information please.
If I'm not mistaken, there are two weak links in the CZ52. First is the firing pin, which is prone to breakage (never dry fire a CZ52!) due in part to substandard steel in the original. This has nothing to do with the type of round of course.
I think the CZ52's biggest weakness is the fairly complicated rollers/cam system to compensate for the power of the 7.62x25 round. I haven't had any problems (yet) with my CZ52, but I have had a slide pin break on one of my TT's. Both are great pistols in my opinion.
NotAGunGuy I read and heard the same things. I have two that are near mint, un refurbished that are closet queens and one that is in almost the same condition, but I replaced the firing pins, springs and rollers so I could shoot it. You can feel the difference in the dirty corrosive surplus ammo from the red army stuff... I love these old commie surplus firearms...
Imagine putting these boxes into fire, and waiting for surprise
Might have gotten it opened faster that way! But an expensive experiment either way...
Alexander Zając yeah you can try that!!!😍😉😉😉🤗
at least you opened the second box in the correct direction.
would love to get one of these
You must be American spy if you don't know how Soviet ammo can opens
I can neither confirm nor deny that.
Haha that's good
was the ammo good? any duds?
I had original Spam can of 7.62 x 25 made in China in 1960. I paid $160.00 with shipping of $15.00. I owned Tokorev pistol T 33 made in Yugoslavia.
Those look crazy man
They actually fired great. More than half ended up with cracked cases afterwards, so no reloading even if I wanted to.
It's cool that this was made by the famous "circle 10" factory- I guess before they put the circle around the 10...
Im Bulgarian where I get one of those boxes ?
Hello Bulgaria! Not quite sure where you might get one. I ordered online from SG Ammo here in the U.S.A. I have to imagine that some crates are still hidden somewhere in your country though.
I had the same old Bulgarian 762x25 ammo.
Over the years I've opened Soviet,Albanian,Bulgarian, Polish, Romanian, East German,Chinese,Pakistan,Turkish in hermetically sealed steel cans. In doing so, what I learned over the years is that it's best to be cautious and to take all necessary precautions.
You have found out there is Lead Dust all over the metal and wood boxes. Such is dangerous, unhealthy and must be properly handled.
Experience has shown me that it is best to open up such old military outdoor ammunition outside of the house.
I wear nitrile gloves and a mask as well. I use thick Plastic bags or Sheeting or a Lawn Leaf Bag, old Newspapers as protective flooring that I lay on table or the floor, ground etc.
I than start the opening up the box procedure by blessing the wood and metal can with Holy Water from a Catholic Church, as to past experiences from such old Communist war zone ammunition might have bad stuff with it. Later once the ammunition is visible some Holy Water gets sprinkled over it as well.
I use a variety of tools, from the enclosed metal openers to flat head screwdrivers, hammers,pliers, cutters.
Afterwards I may clean the ammunition carefully if necessary with baby wipes soaked in white vinegar or hydrogen peroxide (excellent cleaner for Lead dust). The tools used also get cleaned the same way or washed with liqued detergeant and lubed with WD40 or Ballistol.
The scrap metal guy gets all leftover metals, the strap seal bands, and cans ,screws etc. Or they get placed into a recycle bin. Wood boxes, creates can be cleaned up and used for storage or get sold to Antique shops, Military Surplus store, or burned and destroyed, US Military Ammo cans work the best for long term storage.
Oh my god.... Everybody.. this man got his hands dirty.. HE GOT HIS HANDS DIRTY
when the box is open, the war is over ....
Great video thanks for your information and what are you talking about White and pink?
Thank you! So the white/pink thing goes back to an Internet theory that 7.62x25 surplus Tokarev rounds in packages with pink labels were loaded dangerously hot and would make your pistol explode. I think that theory has been mostly debunked, but I didn't want to have to test it myself!
on the paper on the lid ... the bulgarian.text says that you should grab the can.with the left arm and pul the ring..with your right, without twisting, pull it tothe right
Well, sh*t.
Simple just melt the solder with your map gas torch 😅
Well looks like I have a new theme for my unboxing video of that second tin!
Exacly. Maybe even put it in a furnace to melt. Dont forget to have 911 on speed dial.
Great fun!...
Thanks man. They shoot great too.
Where can you find these?
How's to buy that ammo crate??
Is this gear usable?
Packard was a last hanger on in business barely.
Was it reliable?
Should put Lin seed oil I the wood to rehydrate
Thanks for the suggestion!