This is one of the best smash 4 sets, despite what has come out about these players. Like it or not their rivalry is what made smash 4 exciting and kept me interested. I come back to watch this and the other zero vs ally sets of the era every once in a while.
Oh man, that set made my dick explode. I really want to see Zero take tournaments again, but the same time it's great seeing top players get on his level and even pass it. Congrats again Ally 👏👏👏
Honestly, ZeRo started looking a bit shaken up here. In the second to last game, as soon as he started crawling I just went "oh ZeRo, please don't do a down tilt." He did, Ally shielded it, and killed him. He started doing some desperate Monkey Flips, he missed techs that he normally wouldn't miss... it was still obviously better play than 99.9% of the planet can pull off, but it didn't look fully like ZeRo by the end of it. Still a great Grand Finals overall though, and congrats to Ally!
His diddy didn't look the same, that's for sure. He was clearly lacking confidence during this whole grand finals. Seems like he was playing a bit scared. Hopefully zero can get his swagger back, I'm rooting for him in the big tournies coming up in the next couple months.
Edgar le thug Yep, EVO was a great showing and the only reason he didn't take it was because his competition was playing just as great. It's looking like ZeRo is coming back!
SPOILERS!! DON'T READ UNTIL YOU SEE THE 2ND SET BECAUSE TRUST ME, IT'S WORTH IT! I can't believe I got to see this live, and it was my first national!! My pool was the same time as Zero's and all I remember hearing was how someone only got 12% on one of his stocks. A ton of people were watching his matches and a few were updating on how many hits his opponents could get on him. Yeah Ally won the 1st set, but it seemed like he was just seeing which character he felt the most comfortable with. Zero was playing really well throughout the whole tournament, but that match in the sudden death match definitely changed how the venue felt. Congrats Ally!
I think everyone can see that Diddy is his best character, but I don't think everyone sees ZeRo's situation. ZeRo built himself on Shiek, and I think it's hard for him to realize that she's not going to be his best anymore after the nerfs, no matter how hard he practices. It's probably hard to let something like that go. Still, props to Ally for taking a tourney from the best in the world...and YES, ZeRo is STILL the best in the world. The fact that he can still play like THIS even after months without practice and recovery from his injury is astounding. Other people are getting better, but it's only gonna get better for ZeRo from here too.
Well he built himself on diddy for like more than half a year first. He switched to sheik when diddy was nerfed. He should have no problem adjusting back to diddy.
Still don't see why ZeRo uses his characters like crutchea though. Every other player is consistent with their character through nerfs and all, but he can't. lol
Void and Mr R managed through the sheik nerfs, and I'd say they have surpassed zero in sheik play. Zero just runs away from characters when they become inconvenienced, while most other players stick with their mains.
I think he should have sticked to diddy during both sets. He is going to still losing until he picks a definite character. It's better to be extremely good in one thing than spread and be good with some.
I'm really glad other players are stepping up there skill and finally giving Zero a run for his money. It seemed like for a long time it was Zero far above everyone with no chance of catching up, but now there are plenty of players on par with Zero's skills. I do think Zero is a bit rusty, but it's pretty clear a lot of other people have just gotten better with time. That said, it's adorable reading comments from people pretending Zero is bad at the game and was never good or things like that. You silly bitches.
Zero not the best Sheik anymore he relied to much on 50/50 Kills, now the best are without a doubt Mr. R & Void since they are more creative in their kill setups and combos.
Watching the double KO again, their deaths looked to have happened at the same time down to the frame as the crash effects from the edges of the screen are synced up. Crazy stuff.
Zero has developed the community more than ken could ever hope to, and keep in mind zero is months out, he's rusty and his main was nerfed pretty hard his #1 spot is still solid as long as he just doesn't lose the motivation
I like how you ignored his pervious 52 tourney wins in a row by saying ''I come in second at tournaments... a lot actually''I'm not convinced hes a worse player until his finger 100% heals nad hes back in top shape
+cumboy Rust only lasts for so long. I believe you're right about people just getting better than zero. The johns coming from his fans are way too strong lol
I think ZeRo's losses as of late, are a combination of circumstances. His injury definitly did not help. One of his mains got nerfed badly (again), so sheik is pretty much his secondary now. On top of that.. the meta is evolving. People around ZeRo are getting better and catching up to his level. I think a big part of ZeRo's succes was the fact that he was just sooo far ahead of everyone else after Smash 4's release. He's gonna have to work harder to win, and it's only gonna get worse for him if he doesn't. In Melee, a lot of the top players had their reign where no one could keep up. But as time went by, the gap closed. It happened to Mew2King too. And before that Ken dominated. Both eventually lost their dominance as other players started to catch up, and develop strategies to beat them.
ZeRo's been wiffing so many Sheik F-Airs. Could the hitbox nerf be the reason he feels like he lost touch with Sheik? I think it oughta impact his feel of the neutral.
Sheik's f-air got a hitbox nerf where the angle was changed(hits more in a downward angle around her knees, making it possible for her to actually hit people more below herself) but now I see it may have had a range reduction(it seemingly used to have more horizontal range than even Marth's f-air) because ZeRo's reads and offstage chases were on point but those killing f-airs would miss by a hair's breadth. I actually feel bad for him at this point because it seems like he's almost lost his main.
+Stocke it's a pretty underrated change. It's easier to trade with because of the defensive hitbox shift, and Sheik is not a character who trades well.
When someone loses learns that need improvement and Ally was defeated earlier by ZeRo on many occasions and I think those losses helped him improve, even if ZeRo has lost his injury or not, I guess it's not to win always there will also be occasions in which opponents defeated now vanquish the until then ... Congratulations Ally
At a moment of the video I just wanted to mute the video. It's really annoying how biased the commentators are :l (Zero get hit) Commentators: Ally is amazing. (Ally get hit) Commentators: Oh no....
But you have to understand, it was old news at that time that Zero could win. It was interesting to see someone else able to beat zero. This is why the commentators are more excited when Ally does something amazing, because its expected of Zero. If you see their match at genesis 4, it seems that the commentators were more biased for Zero, as they are probably tired of Ally always winning against him and want to see Zero come out on top again.
Grant the Dragon you might be one of the biggest ally fans I have ever seen man, on ZSM's video you literally are complaining that ally shouldn't have a video of him getting bodied. This whole comment section you're just making up things like zero running away from characters when they become "inconvenienced." Lighten up man.
Bob Smith yeah, im an ally fan. But I also support zero. Where did I make that comment about his characters being inconvenienced? I don't see it in this thread. And for zsm's video, even the person who made it agreed in the comment section that the video didn't work.
Bob Smith never mind, I found it. Well it is kind of true. Ever since the sheik nerfs zero stopped maiming sheik. But I guess he deserves some credit sticking with diddy after his nerfs. And now he's trying out Lucina. That will be very interesting.
"I wish we could go back frame by frame to see who might've touched the blast zone first." Sudden death only happens like that if they both touch the blastzone at the same frame.
Mario is easily the best character. He just has all the tools. Combo off down throw and up throw, 50/50 Down throw to fair, cape that reflects, all of his aerials are so solid, and let's not forget up smash.
+Pickled Gremlin well he should not say Americans... Americans = people from America America. America = North South and Central America including the Caribbean so... Get it right
If there are any Mario mains in here, can you let me know why he's not top 5? All I see with Mario and even when I play him is a character who easy to pick up, has great combos, and barely punishable smash attacks. Please let me know.
Lack of range, kills require a read, poor projectile, kill throw isn't super strong, loses neutral to Diddy, Rosa, Sheik, Cloud, Sonic, Ryu, recovery is just okay, only disjoint is upsmash (and cape, but that's has no knock back), average speed
Totally agree. I think what makes him really good is his spacing because when you look at it, his combos are not that impressive. And for you, other mario mains, what is Ally's best weapon ?
I agree with the mind games. He has this ability to see any way that the opponent uses to approach him and gets a punish of resets the neutral with down b. For the grabs, he has good combos, but he can't get a stock easily for back throw is too easy to DI. However, this is a mario problem, not Ally's. This kind of videos are the best tutorials don't you think ?
I think Mario has become ZeRo's kryptonite. Remember, he also lost to ANTi before losing to Ally for the second time. That being said though, it might be Ally's time to shine.
> Bowser is enemies with Mario > ZeRo is enemies with Mario > Bowser is fat > ZeRo is fat > Bowser is a loser > ZeRo is a loser > Bowser is an egotistical narcissist > ZeRo is an egotistical narcissist > Bowser holds attractive women captive > ZeRo holds attractive women captive > ZeRo is Bowser confirmed
i think i just hate how people rush to defend zero so quickly and disregard ally's victory. We all know zero is a good player you dont have to defend him his skills do that for him but that shouldnt take away from ally doing well against him twice now. Recovering from injury is not an excuse when you have already gone through the recovery stage and have trained afterwards and have begun to regain your strength. Like in my sport powerlifting if you get injured you get injured you dont make excuses afterwards you just get straight back to training and most likely you will be weak af initially but you quickly regain your former strength. I think both players did a great job and congratulations to Ally. Losing doesnt make zero any less of the awesome player he is
While zero keeps getting second, I believe he's still best in the world, he still consistently gets to grands. Also I can't help but think he's a little rusty along with a character crisis.
ZeRo or Ally is probably the best player RN ( based off consistency ) but the player who wins CEO / EVO will be the best Player, also at this Point ZeRo is a triple main No character crisis
+AaexHD if zero picks up Ryu, Sakurai gonna be up ryus ass with a new patch. when top players win with crazy setups like shiek old 50/50 or the hoo Haa, Sakurai nerfs them and Ryu has insane follow ups, just nobody uses him.
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This is one of the best smash 4 sets, despite what has come out about these players. Like it or not their rivalry is what made smash 4 exciting and kept me interested. I come back to watch this and the other zero vs ally sets of the era every once in a while.
Well said, I come back regularly as well. Both of them have made a sort of comeback, but yeah they'll never be in the spotlight this big again.
after every game Ally does this little head nod. Sometimes he does like 20 head nods... sometimes he does like 5
He's practicing his Mario up smash.
+Kimberly Rodriguez lmao xD
26:25 he does the Mario Up Smash in real life xD
He's channeling the Gods energy
That moment when "WHO IS DE BEST" becomes an actual question.
Actually in my honest opinion, and don't quote me on this, but I think ZeRo's reign is over, in a few months someone will replace him.
Ally or Nairo imo
Yep his injury ruined him.
Don't count anti out now. Zero will catch back up. It takes time after a break.
uhhh hes worst placement is 2nd, just saying.
Ally is an inspiration to all of us Mario mains
You've said it man! :')
but Mario sucks though
+Lewmonkaizer lol someone didn't play the game
+QWERTY tub but he's not even top tier tho
he is in the top of high tier
Oh man, that set made my dick explode. I really want to see Zero take tournaments again, but the same time it's great seeing top players get on his level and even pass it. Congrats again Ally 👏👏👏
***** Thanks fam
+Conrad Donahue hehe
same
24:23 thats why, thankfully, you're not the one making the rules Max.
Honestly, ZeRo started looking a bit shaken up here. In the second to last game, as soon as he started crawling I just went "oh ZeRo, please don't do a down tilt." He did, Ally shielded it, and killed him. He started doing some desperate Monkey Flips, he missed techs that he normally wouldn't miss... it was still obviously better play than 99.9% of the planet can pull off, but it didn't look fully like ZeRo by the end of it. Still a great Grand Finals overall though, and congrats to Ally!
His diddy didn't look the same, that's for sure. He was clearly lacking confidence during this whole grand finals. Seems like he was playing a bit scared. Hopefully zero can get his swagger back, I'm rooting for him in the big tournies coming up in the next couple months.
Mario's up-smash is just so scary lol. And Ally is not to be slept on.
His performance at Evo was amazing, I think he got a lot of his swagger back already.
Edgar le thug Yep, EVO was a great showing and the only reason he didn't take it was because his competition was playing just as great. It's looking like ZeRo is coming back!
He's back to full strength now. Took the recent Ktar, Abadango saga, Shine and the Big House 6.
SPOILERS!! DON'T READ UNTIL YOU SEE THE 2ND SET BECAUSE TRUST ME, IT'S WORTH IT!
I can't believe I got to see this live, and it was my first national!! My pool was the same time as Zero's and all I remember hearing was how someone only got 12% on one of his stocks. A ton of people were watching his matches and a few were updating on how many hits his opponents could get on him. Yeah Ally won the 1st set, but it seemed like he was just seeing which character he felt the most comfortable with. Zero was playing really well throughout the whole tournament, but that match in the sudden death match definitely changed how the venue felt. Congrats Ally!
That foreshadowing at 24:10.
criminally underrated
Holy shit dude I didn't even think of it that way😂
Other foreshadows not here but still in smash was Captain Zack in ZeRo vs Mr. R front seat.
I think everyone can see that Diddy is his best character, but I don't think everyone sees ZeRo's situation. ZeRo built himself on Shiek, and I think it's hard for him to realize that she's not going to be his best anymore after the nerfs, no matter how hard he practices. It's probably hard to let something like that go.
Still, props to Ally for taking a tourney from the best in the world...and YES, ZeRo is STILL the best in the world. The fact that he can still play like THIS even after months without practice and recovery from his injury is astounding. Other people are getting better, but it's only gonna get better for ZeRo from here too.
Well he built himself on diddy for like more than half a year first. He switched to sheik when diddy was nerfed. He should have no problem adjusting back to diddy.
Still don't see why ZeRo uses his characters like crutchea though. Every other player is consistent with their character through nerfs and all, but he can't. lol
Void and Mr R managed through the sheik nerfs, and I'd say they have surpassed zero in sheik play. Zero just runs away from characters when they become inconvenienced, while most other players stick with their mains.
Predicting the future
ZeRo's character Crisis.
he should just pick up Ryu.
or Sonic
He pulled out Cloud on Anti a tournament ago I think. So possibly Cloud might be a new main for him.
but not Rosa
Well, we don't know what ZeRo's enjoys and doesn't enjoy playing in this game. He mentioned some but not all of them
No character crisis at all he is a triple main now , He said on twitter and in a interview his real problem is finding when to use the characters
I think he should have sticked to diddy during both sets.
He is going to still losing until he picks a definite character. It's better to be extremely good in one thing than spread and be good with some.
I think he was trying to not give ally his diddy experience
Personally, I'd use my secondaries since I don't him to download my main characters. Then in set 2, I'd go Diddy.
ANTi would care to disagree with you
Like the other have said. I am sure Zero was switching characters to throw off Ally.
ZeRo on dat 2nd place streak
Lmao
hes on that mang0 2015 streak
+FansonicGaming mango didnt even get 2nd place in 2015, you mean mango's 2016 streak
at least he made grandfinals for his shape. some people don't even do that on good days
Tru dat tho
I'm really glad other players are stepping up there skill and finally giving Zero a run for his money. It seemed like for a long time it was Zero far above everyone with no chance of catching up, but now there are plenty of players on par with Zero's skills. I do think Zero is a bit rusty, but it's pretty clear a lot of other people have just gotten better with time.
That said, it's adorable reading comments from people pretending Zero is bad at the game and was never good or things like that. You silly bitches.
Nerf game too strong
The remove of HOHA and the shiek nerf yo!!
His sheik got nerf and his finger got nerf glad he lost.
Am I the only one sad that zero isn't winning first place?
L
Same
+AaexHD fuck u mean L I actually mean it he doesn't deserve to lose not trying to be funny
It's sad yes but it had to end eventually
MY NIGGA
Zero not the best Sheik anymore he relied to much on 50/50 Kills, now the best are without a doubt Mr. R & Void since they are more creative in their kill setups and combos.
He still is good at reading though.
Good fundamentals but the competition caught up
yea I strongly think it's void
You still gotta think about Zeros injured finger, but he still was doing pretty good with the protective thing on it.
Vincent Leo That`s what he gets for having a girlfriend
Watching the double KO again, their deaths looked to have happened at the same time down to the frame as the crash effects from the edges of the screen are synced up. Crazy stuff.
Amazing match, smash 4 is evolving so fast.
nah. it feels the same as before
+Dantiel Barbosa no it really doesn't.
+VirgateSpy yup...it does.
slower actually
+Dantiel Barbosa lmao, troll
+goldber516 It's not slow though, even if they're playing cautiously you can see how fast their movement is.
23:53 most insane thing i've ever seen in a tournament
GG Ally :D Awesome play!!!
The best Mario player of Smash 4!
This deserves a millions of views! :')
Ally with the Sudden Dunk
I'm so impressed with Ally right now. He is immaculate.
Are you still impressed with him
both of those players aren't competing anymore. let that sink in
They definitely aren't now
I gotta say I really love some smash four commentators, these ones definitely being some of them.
Really enjoyed the commentary, good amount of hype and info.
For every Zero loss there will be thousands of johns from his fans. You are forewarned, now enjoy the comment section.
Daaaaamn Zero lost a tournament to Mario 3 times now LET'S GO! (^o^)
I was rewatching ally playing Mario in the finals and saw you in another video
24:07 How did he do that holding the controller with just one hand?
the camera feed is about one second late. he inputs forward on the c stick at 24:11
Let's hope Zero doesn't end up like Ken..
Zero has developed the community more than ken could ever hope to, and keep in mind zero is months out, he's rusty and his main was nerfed pretty hard his #1 spot is still solid as long as he just doesn't lose the motivation
his worst placing is 2nd
3rd if you count sky's invitational
hes is the mosy consisyent player ever imo
What's wrong with Ken? He create a combo!!!
+SUPERSMASHJONY He was the best melee player then people around him got better by a lot.
[Aizu]
That's good it helps you to improve. Imagine winning all the time, it makes everything boring
This whole match was legendary!!
This is the greatest set in smash 4 history
Both Sding at the same time happens like once every 1000 matches for me, crazy this happened in grand finals
they're not SD's
+Ryan Genis
Zero SD'd. It just killed Ally too.
Damn that Sheik nerf really hurts. I thought he might play Shulk or Ryu based on how well he has spoken of those two characters lately.
yo i've watched this like 4 times this is the most hype tournament ever man. team ally forever.
does anyone realize that ZeRo NEVER uses sheiks side b
Except in rusty mistakes these past two tournaments. Watch finals with Anti
too much ending lag leads to free punishes. I use it alot in friendlies, but in competetive play its better off as a edgeguarding tool
Came back after the amazing set at smash and splash 3
gonna have to change his channel video to
"Hi, I'm ZeRo, and I come second at tournaments.....a lot actually"
I like how you ignored his pervious 52 tourney wins in a row by saying ''I come in second at tournaments... a lot actually''I'm not convinced hes a worse player until his finger 100% heals nad hes back in top shape
It's like they're too used to his movement with his mains.
Neagitive, hes rusty
M Are you denying it's possible for people to get better than him while he was taking a break?
+cumboy Rust only lasts for so long. I believe you're right about people just getting better than zero. The johns coming from his fans are way too strong lol
Zero is still the best only people have finally caught up to him
That sudden death was legendary. I'll never forget seeing that live
I think ZeRo's losses as of late, are a combination of circumstances. His injury definitly did not help. One of his mains got nerfed badly (again), so sheik is pretty much his secondary now. On top of that.. the meta is evolving. People around ZeRo are getting better and catching up to his level. I think a big part of ZeRo's succes was the fact that he was just sooo far ahead of everyone else after Smash 4's release. He's gonna have to work harder to win, and it's only gonna get worse for him if he doesn't.
In Melee, a lot of the top players had their reign where no one could keep up. But as time went by, the gap closed. It happened to Mew2King too. And before that Ken dominated. Both eventually lost their dominance as other players started to catch up, and develop strategies to beat them.
The old best match ever until MKLeo vs Elegant at GTx
THIS VENUE IS DOWN THE STREET FROM ME! HOW IN THE HELL DID I NOT KNOW ABOUT IT! :(
This set is a bruh moment
ZeRo = Ken
M2K = Chillin
Ally = PC Chris
History is repeating itself.
Zero must be having a really hard time since all his characters got pretty much ruined...props to him for not dropping them
Diddy ruined ?.....the fuck xD
+Dantiel Barbosa diddy did get hit pretty hard, but he is still pretty good. It was pretty noticeable after the patch that nerfed him.
ZeRo's been wiffing so many Sheik F-Airs. Could the hitbox nerf be the reason he feels like he lost touch with Sheik? I think it oughta impact his feel of the neutral.
Sheik's Fair got a HITBOX nerf too?
A minimal nerf, not sooo noticeable in battle actually, but still there (now Marth's Fair outranges it).
Sheik's f-air got a hitbox nerf where the angle was changed(hits more in a downward angle around her knees, making it possible for her to actually hit people more below herself) but now I see it may have had a range reduction(it seemingly used to have more horizontal range than even Marth's f-air) because ZeRo's reads and offstage chases were on point but those killing f-airs would miss by a hair's breadth. I actually feel bad for him at this point because it seems like he's almost lost his main.
ZeRo's Sheik is actually looking much, much sharper than it did at GOML.
+Stocke it's a pretty underrated change. It's easier to trade with because of the defensive hitbox shift, and Sheik is not a character who trades well.
that was a badass double death. ally died top left, zero died bottom right. completely opposite sides.
Absolutely crazy GF!
having to watch last year's grand finals because UR is taking forever to upload :(
Has Zero even won a tournament after his break yet?
Where is Grand Finals of Smash and Splash 3?
When someone loses learns that need improvement and Ally was defeated earlier by ZeRo on many occasions and I think those losses helped him improve, even if ZeRo has lost his injury or not, I guess it's not to win always there will also be occasions in which opponents defeated now vanquish the until then ... Congratulations Ally
At a moment of the video I just wanted to mute the video. It's really annoying how biased the commentators are :l
(Zero get hit)
Commentators: Ally is amazing.
(Ally get hit)
Commentators: Oh no....
But you have to understand, it was old news at that time that Zero could win. It was interesting to see someone else able to beat zero. This is why the commentators are more excited when Ally does something amazing, because its expected of Zero.
If you see their match at genesis 4, it seems that the commentators were more biased for Zero, as they are probably tired of Ally always winning against him and want to see Zero come out on top again.
Grant the Dragon you might be one of the biggest ally fans I have ever seen man, on ZSM's video you literally are complaining that ally shouldn't have a video of him getting bodied. This whole comment section you're just making up things like zero running away from characters when they become "inconvenienced." Lighten up man.
Bob Smith yeah, im an ally fan. But I also support zero. Where did I make that comment about his characters being inconvenienced? I don't see it in this thread. And for zsm's video, even the person who made it agreed in the comment section that the video didn't work.
Bob Smith never mind, I found it. Well it is kind of true. Ever since the sheik nerfs zero stopped maiming sheik. But I guess he deserves some credit sticking with diddy after his nerfs. And now he's trying out Lucina. That will be very interesting.
Grant the Dragon wow, zero maimed sheik? I'm kidding, yeah I understand what you mean
its looking like a new era for sm4sh.
26:32 and ALLY -
Something about that always makes me laugh
Ally head shake is the source of his power
7:01 Ally...was that a sliding spot dodge I see? I thought that was Bidou exclusive! Nice moves though
Whenever ally uses up smash, is he Hillsborough, or magically just using reverse up smash up?
Sorry, is he jumpcanceling it?
People, the word is out: whoever wants to beat Zero, now is the moment. Dabuz, where the hell is you?
Wait.... I thought the ruling is that whoever had the higher percent wins? Or is that only for a timeout?
That rule only applies to timeout.
Adam Britt Ok gotcha
You came here for 23:56
anyone know when melee will be put up?
what's the name of their twitch Channel?
"I wish we could go back frame by frame to see who might've touched the blast zone first."
Sudden death only happens like that if they both touch the blastzone at the same frame.
Ayyyyyy
hehehe
Mario is easily the best character. He just has all the tools. Combo off down throw and up throw, 50/50 Down throw to fair, cape that reflects, all of his aerials are so solid, and let's not forget up smash.
I would say most balanced character, but that's it.. I wouldn't call him the best..
Well most other character are in dire need of some "balancing".
***** ^ This
Mario is not the best, it's only Ally that is OP with the character
+Andrew M Levisay how does he have trouble approaching?
I feel like the top players are beginning to form some rock-paper-scissors MUs between themselves.
Damn a Mario Champion, Im a Mario Main and i never thougt this gona happen
I wish Zero didn't have to take a break for so long, because of that injury. I think he'd be a little better now.
what does the [W] followed by Zeros name and the [L] by Ally's name in the title?
ZeRo came.from winners and Ally came from losers
HE GOT SECOND. BIG FUCKING DEAL
at 34:15, he says "maybe a little BM there" what does BM stand for doe?
ccmcdoug bad manners
can someone plz tell me what zeros tag is
Then they meet again in Smash n Splash 3.
Why is Ally not sponsored yet?
the second set said zero 1 ally 0 and the third set said zero 0 and ally 2
no americans in top 2?? one is from N america and the other is from S america... smh
+Pickled Gremlin well he should not say Americans... Americans = people from America America. America = North South and Central America including the Caribbean so... Get it right
It's more of a colloquial thing, not meant to say, "There's only ONE America". It's purely for convenience. Don't take it so seriously.
+JustifiedMayhem32 it is still incorrect
Hansel Rios
Not entirely, when you understand the context
+JustifiedMayhem32 convenience doesn't mean it's correct
time stamp suddent death?
I mean, at this point, I'm not even gonna be surprised ally beat zero.
Please come back zero, I wanna see you at your best again.
upsmash count?
Ally is looking insane lately! Awesome to see people taking tournaments off ZeRo!
this is the second tournament ally has beaten ZeRo in in the past 2 months
+MxZaiR LaSauvage Yeah, I saw! The comment was kind of directed toward all of his losses lately. Awesome to see the progression of the game as a whole
oh rip, but I agree,anti Larry and ally have all taken a tournament off ZeRo in the past 3 weeks
+MxZaiR LaSauvage im pretty sure larry never won a tournament over zero.
+MxZaiR Larry took 2ggt mexico saga over ZeRo
dude you just see that ledge up-B hitbox. it was huge
Where's the first game tho?
+Chan_MM Make me breh.
zero could've up-B'd to stall his death in the second game of set 2, right?
did ally like replace nairo?
what controls does ally use?
+Kevin Ball top right things off?
+KraazyKanadian tap jump, vibrating, and the smash if you press two button.
Hype moment at : 23:45
If there are any Mario mains in here, can you let me know why he's not top 5? All I see with Mario and even when I play him is a character who easy to pick up, has great combos, and barely punishable smash attacks. Please let me know.
Lack of range, kills require a read, poor projectile, kill throw isn't super strong, loses neutral to Diddy, Rosa, Sheik, Cloud, Sonic, Ryu, recovery is just okay, only disjoint is upsmash (and cape, but that's has no knock back), average speed
He's good, I place him in Top 10, but not Top 5
+GodofGrunts Ah okay thank you
Consider him around 8th IMO
He's easily top 10, but not top 5. Rosa, Cloud, sheik,sonic and fox are all better than him (And ryu according to some)
The only problem I saw on Zero's end was simply that his characters were nerfed.. badly..
Ally is an inspiration to us Mario Mains :)
Totally agree. I think what makes him really good is his spacing because when you look at it, his combos are not that impressive.
And for you, other mario mains, what is Ally's best weapon ?
+Joris Del Ben Ally's Mind games dude. The grabs
I agree with the mind games. He has this ability to see any way that the opponent uses to approach him and gets a punish of resets the neutral with down b.
For the grabs, he has good combos, but he can't get a stock easily for back throw is too easy to DI. However, this is a mario problem, not Ally's.
This kind of videos are the best tutorials don't you think ?
+Joris Del Ben totally agree
ally you did it!! 🙉🙉🙉🙈🙈
He already did it at goml
clearly a new best
I think Mario has become ZeRo's kryptonite. Remember, he also lost to ANTi before losing to Ally for the second time.
That being said though, it might be Ally's time to shine.
> Bowser is enemies with Mario
> ZeRo is enemies with Mario
> Bowser is fat
> ZeRo is fat
> Bowser is a loser
> ZeRo is a loser
> Bowser is an egotistical narcissist
> ZeRo is an egotistical narcissist
> Bowser holds attractive women captive
> ZeRo holds attractive women captive
> ZeRo is Bowser confirmed
@@UndertakerU2ber bruh
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Tbh, I don't even remember writing that. But still, have I blown your mind away with this revelation?
i dont even get why there is a time limit
Geksz so games don't take a billion years
i think i just hate how people rush to defend zero so quickly and disregard ally's victory. We all know zero is a good player you dont have to defend him his skills do that for him but that shouldnt take away from ally doing well against him twice now. Recovering from injury is not an excuse when you have already gone through the recovery stage and have trained afterwards and have begun to regain your strength. Like in my sport powerlifting if you get injured you get injured you dont make excuses afterwards you just get straight back to training and most likely you will be weak af initially but you quickly regain your former strength. I think both players did a great job and congratulations to Ally. Losing doesnt make zero any less of the awesome player he is
This
I thought Zero new tourny character was Shulk...
While zero keeps getting second, I believe he's still best in the world, he still consistently gets to grands. Also I can't help but think he's a little rusty along with a character crisis.
Character Crisis is real, he has to pick up Ryu
at this point i believe there is no definitive best smash 4 player in the world
ZeRo or Ally is probably the best player RN ( based off consistency ) but the player who wins CEO / EVO will be the best Player, also at this Point ZeRo is a triple main No character crisis
+AaexHD if zero picks up Ryu, Sakurai gonna be up ryus ass with a new patch. when top players win with crazy setups like shiek old 50/50 or the hoo Haa, Sakurai nerfs them and Ryu has insane follow ups, just nobody uses him.
+Illuminati Confirmed ally still isn't better than nairo and dabuz.
23:56 Shouldn't Ally have won automatically since he had a lower percent?
Did that look like a timeout? He died fam
+fetchyryu I know, but both ~ZeRo and Ally died at the same time, and ~ZeRo had a higher percent.
+Collin Brady (Proplayer1112) that only counts if the timer runs out
+rgonzalez789517 Ok thank you for clearing that up for me :D
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23:57 was so hype
Bruh, I loved this set