Green NH3: An Alternative Fuel Source

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  • Опубликовано: 24 окт 2024
  • Halton Hills scientist Roger Gordon explains the science behind his potentially revolutionary fuel source, and the struggle to get it approved by the Canadian government

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  • @menguardingtheirownwallets6791
    @menguardingtheirownwallets6791 3 года назад +16

    In Northern England, there is too much wind power being generated for the needs there. If you can convert the wasted electrical power into ammonia, and then have one of two UK freight train diesels converted to run off of this newly manufactured fuel, you would be on your way to creating a new market for this fuel source.

    • @wyattfamily8997
      @wyattfamily8997 2 года назад +1

      That would take imagination and the courage to do it, no poliiticians have those traits and just think of the fuel tax they would lose.

    • @user-pt1ow8hx5l
      @user-pt1ow8hx5l Год назад

      Skovgaard Energy, Vestas and Topsoe are at it in Denmark.

  • @chrishenniker5944
    @chrishenniker5944 2 года назад +7

    I saw your video on Rebel News, which makes me smile that people are taking risks and creating new things that could take us forward, into the second renaissance.

  • @rayce36
    @rayce36 2 года назад +22

    The Problem is he went and got a Patent. The governments are going to lock that Patent up and call it a Security risk. Why not sell the conversion kit for the vehicles. And sell the plans to make NH3 or the Machines. Get more and more people using it on the road and create a momentum shift for NH3. That's the only way to get this moving in the right direction!!

    • @kenboyce9079
      @kenboyce9079 2 года назад +5

      Spot on

    • @shoppysharp9355
      @shoppysharp9355 2 года назад +6

      Conversion kits are the grass roots way, and that would go viral right now. Lots of mechanically inclined people would install a conversion kit. This is the way.

    • @ragnardanneskjold7259
      @ragnardanneskjold7259 2 года назад

      He wants big oil to buy his invention. He has no intention of seeing it in the open market.

    • @CurtisBarros
      @CurtisBarros 2 года назад

      @@ragnardanneskjold7259 Thats the problem!! the only one that was willing to help everyone was Paul Pantone "Geet" his plans are online. and maybe the Joe cell.

    • @CarLoverPhotography
      @CarLoverPhotography 2 года назад +1

      Still waiting, instead they are forcing garbage EVs down our throats.

  • @vulcannut991987
    @vulcannut991987 2 года назад +10

    Just curious... If your machine takes ammonia from the air and it only produces a few millilitres per day. What would happen if you placed your machine in a large chicken barn where there is a ton of ammonia being produced every day. Would it purify the air for the chickens and produce fuel for the farmers tractor????

    • @oasdOg
      @oasdOg 2 года назад +5

      Great idea!

    • @natalie6490
      @natalie6490 2 года назад +3

      wow makes sense!

    • @natalie6490
      @natalie6490 2 года назад +6

      contact rebel news he was on a few days ago please make sure this man stays safe!

  • @mannydrives
    @mannydrives 2 года назад +13

    Should be open source and let a wide range of people make this.

  • @adamwiggins9865
    @adamwiggins9865 2 года назад +6

    Just hearing about this on Rebel News in 2022

  • @AndyGrahamProductions
    @AndyGrahamProductions 2 года назад +5

    The fact that he patented it pretty much sealed the deal that it would see the light of day.
    I would have released the tech to the world defensive disclosure, and made free plans for a smaller unit and blasted it all over the web.

  • @maulikpatel9204
    @maulikpatel9204 4 года назад +7

    Government is thinking to give clearance and Japan already starts process to make energy from NH3 after sending world first consignment by Amarco.

  • @ashforkdan
    @ashforkdan 2 года назад +4

    The last one that went up against big oil was Stan Myers and we all know what happened to him.

  • @bakeredwards
    @bakeredwards 2 года назад +2

    With the high prices of oil now in 2022 we should see some more innovative ideas like this

    • @mmc5261
      @mmc5261 2 года назад

      Stupid why do you need to see more ? The answer is in front of you 😏

  • @zaks9919
    @zaks9919 2 года назад +2

    The only thing left is make a place to download & save this video now that it has had "global exposure " , to make sure it never goes away...

    • @Ktmfan450
      @Ktmfan450 2 года назад

      There's like 1000 universities working to create industrial scale hydrogen production

  • @lostmarxbro
    @lostmarxbro 3 года назад +5

    Governments are listening now

  • @steveknight9254
    @steveknight9254 4 года назад +6

    What about the toxicity of NH3 ,it’s nasty stuff, if I was in an accident I’d be worried about being poisoned by it. And won’t it attack the fuel tank?

    • @adrianthoroughgood1191
      @adrianthoroughgood1191 2 года назад

      It's much less reactive than H2 in your fuel tank. It's bad for aquatic life but not too bad for humans in small amounts. It smells bad so you can detect a leak. If you were trapped in an enclosed space with a leak it could be a problem

  • @Guitar6ty
    @Guitar6ty 2 года назад +3

    Governments are in the pockets of big business.

  • @nolan4339
    @nolan4339 5 лет назад +9

    It's not green NH3 unless the electricity to split the water and combine the hydrogen with the nitrogen comes from renewables sources as it will take a lot of electricity to fill a tank. None the less, ammonia is a viable fuel and decent form to store energy as. Just remember that a battery will store that energy more efficiently, but as far as bulk storage and transport of energy, NH3 conversion could be a valuable energy technology.

    • @SailingFanatic
      @SailingFanatic 3 года назад +3

      It could be green if solar power is the input. Solar electricity cost can be as low as $0.06/kWh therefore the NH3 can be produced for around $0.15/gallon.

    • @ThaexakaMavro
      @ThaexakaMavro 2 года назад +3

      we have hydro electricity in canada

    • @ragnardanneskjold7259
      @ragnardanneskjold7259 2 года назад +1

      @@mctigmctiggy1475 By the same argument neither is solar or wind an energy source since they also have to be converted into a usable form.

    • @ragnardanneskjold7259
      @ragnardanneskjold7259 2 года назад +1

      @@mctigmctiggy1475 Ammonia exists naturally. Just like wind and solar a process is needed to turn it into a usable energy source.

    • @ragnardanneskjold7259
      @ragnardanneskjold7259 2 года назад +1

      @@mctigmctiggy1475 Ammonia can be combusted to power an internal combustion engine to create thrust, breaking, run electrical systems, air conditioning and heat, etc. Therefore it's a natural raw storehouse of energy on demand. However it can also be combusted to produce electricity to power a vehicle. It can also be cracked into hydrogen to produce electricity to run a vehicle. It's more efficient to store Ammonia than hydrogen. The least efficient system is an electric vehicle run from a battery. Batteries are almost entirely charged from coal and natural gas. Wind and solar are not efficient, not environmentally friendly.
      The original comment that ammonia is not a natural storehouse of energy is patently false.

  • @rollling7523
    @rollling7523 Год назад

    Dis is amazing

  • @peterbarrett5496
    @peterbarrett5496 Год назад

    I just watched a video showing the temperature needed for ammonia engine to work is very narrow

  • @tooge47
    @tooge47 2 года назад +3

    Once he's done perfecting this alternate fuel, maybe he could work on a RUST preventative !!!

    • @hankplays4563
      @hankplays4563 2 года назад

      you always use the worst vehicle you have to experiment on. u dont want to ruin ur good car by accident

    • @mail-qh2qc
      @mail-qh2qc Год назад

      Zinc chromate which was used on ships in the ballast tank to prevent rust but was banned.
      You could strip a vehicle down to the Frame and spray that on but you'd need to take proper precautions to control it and wear PPE.

  • @120ohm
    @120ohm 5 лет назад +13

    Are there any white papers explaining how to create this NH3 and what needs to be done to a typical IC engine to make it compatible? Can your research be made freely available/open source? Sadly I feel you will never get anywhere talking to politicians who are in bed with big oil companies. But give hobby researchers and tinkers like myself the tools needed to start producing our own fuel and maybe we can hit then with a bigger punch by coming at them from multiple angles.

    • @robin1234ism
      @robin1234ism 5 лет назад +1

      yes !! we need to demand alternative power to save our environment and our grandchildren..although it will be a tough sell for the greedy government and elite ..in the 50s 0r 60s a guy made a water powered car and suddenly he was done in with ..the Japanese have water powered cars now .

    • @Jim89M
      @Jim89M 4 года назад +2

      @@robin1234ism what?. Show me just one car that runs on water (hydrogen is not water).. a real one. That works. Not conspiracies about a guy that mysteriously disappeared bla bla bla

    • @andrewcannon587
      @andrewcannon587 2 года назад

      @@robin1234ism the problem is, non-science people like you can be easily conned and fooled to believe anything Car can't run on water. Human poops have more energy than water, even bird pee has more energy than plain water. .

  • @silverismoney
    @silverismoney 2 года назад

    No nitrous oxides? if you burn nitrogen you get NOx's. I'd love to know how that bit works.

  • @charlesbachand6884
    @charlesbachand6884 4 года назад +2

    It dissipates quickly if it was in an accident better than gasoline.

  • @georgesnarbonne2892
    @georgesnarbonne2892 2 года назад

    Does anyone have information of producing green fuels at sea?

  • @sebastianpelligra1896
    @sebastianpelligra1896 5 лет назад +4

    As a recent owner of a diesel vehicle recently affected by the worldwide diesel emission "scandal", I see a potential issue with this technology.
    Firstly, It was oxides of Nitrogen which were deemed to be too high on diesel engine emissions. Carbon emissions from diesel engines are lower than gasoline/petrol engines.
    Secondly, The output from combustion of ammonium is 4NH3(g) + 5O2(g) → 4NO(g) + 6H2O(g) [4 parts Nitric Oxide(NO) and 6 parts Water (H2O)].
    Although there is no Carbon based emission, I imagine the Oxides of Nitrogen will be much higher than diesel emissions.
    Can someone here confirm, correct, or elaborate on my comment? I'm just extrapolating on my limited knowledge.
    The government would have to replace the carbon tax with an ammonia tax.
    This looks like an interesting article which analyzes NOx emissions in the context of NH3 fuels:
    nh3fuelassociation.org/2013/09/14/making-and-treating-nox-formed-in-nh3-engines/

    • @nolan4339
      @nolan4339 5 лет назад +1

      Yes 'NO', and 'NO2' emission are a concern for using Ammonia as a fuel. There is some research on burning it cleaner, but I think the better solution comes down to using fuel cells that more directly convert the energy potential into electricity.

    • @adrianthoroughgood1191
      @adrianthoroughgood1191 2 года назад

      The natural end products of bringing ammonia are n2 and h2o. These are the most stable molecules. NO is only formed if you use explosions like in a ICE. There are ammonia fuel cells being developed which could then power an electric vehicle. These would not produce NO but they are not as well developed as hydrogen fuel cells.

  • @kanti12us
    @kanti12us 4 года назад +1

    How do you separate Hydrogen from oxygen and how much electricity is required to get hydrogen?
    Same way how much it will need electricity to separate nitrogen from air? How much it will cost to mix them both to get ammonia?

    • @the_fonz_hd2702
      @the_fonz_hd2702 2 года назад

      The hydrogen comes from water from electrolysis

    • @andrewcannon587
      @andrewcannon587 2 года назад +3

      @@the_fonz_hd2702 at current electric rate, i doubt ammonia cost 25 cents/liter now, more closer to 50 cents/liter. If we eliminate gas tax, gst, carbon tax from gasoline, gasoline cost would come down to about $1/liter. So the difference is about 50 ct/liter. Would someone spend $12,000 to buy the machine and do the conversion to save 50 ct/liter. Large scale users yes, regular joe car driver likely not. One shouldn't compare no tax ammonia to a highly taxed product gasoline. Once ammonia go mainstream, i guarantee you the government will tax it.

    • @robertmintz63
      @robertmintz63 2 года назад

      @@mctigmctiggy1475 ok but their then is the problem of containment , tank, storage & transport . Charging a special tank in the vehicle. Much better to produce it & consume as produced

    • @robertmintz63
      @robertmintz63 2 года назад

      @@mctigmctiggy1475 to create hydrogen in the vehicle - One of the systems I have seen was development by a man in California , mounted in a Toyota Corolla got 60 mpg & [I still have parts & pieces , (but did not have the correct wire.)]- several qt glass or plastic jars with plastic tops/ lids , - water , some backing soda so that electric current will flow through the water , the more soda the more current , have forgotten the exact amount , 2 coils of 316 stainless wire each coil consists of 2 wires twisted together wound on plastic plates made to form an X , (mounted to the lid), notched to hold the wire at about 5/16” space, pos every 3/4” neg in-between ,so pos, neg as you go down the column . One wire connected to pos , one to neg. , terminals mounted in the lid , current dropping resistor, 15 amp fuse . Current flowing through the wires & water , cause the hydrogen & oxygen of the water to separate & a specified # if bubbles per sec. Also in the lid drip irrigation parts, one to not allow pressure to build , one with knob to allow varying amount of air in , connected to plastic tube going to bottom of jar with air bubbler to diffuse the air, similar to fish tank, (found that the fish tank defuser stone soon disintegrated ) so you get small bubbles , with final port in the lid connected to common line , connected to air intake close to carb so that carb sucks Hydrogen out of the jars . Fittings connecting jars to carb intake must be plastic or brass , I made a manifold of brass with tapped & threaded holes to screw in short hose barbs to connect small 1/8” lines in & 5/16 to carb air
      As I said this was one of the ways I saw , others were also available, but another was significantly more money , but was probably worth it, he sold some of the parts & told you where to buy the others , WHY because the US gov told him he would not sell the complete unit because our economy ran on “-oil-“ NOT “FREE WATER”

  • @davidbryan5281
    @davidbryan5281 5 лет назад +3

    I was doing research on global warming and found out about NH3. I think you do a full conversion of a modern car to run on NH3, not an add on tank and then list specs: horsepower, torque, driving range, driving impressions, ease of filling up the fuel tank, acceleration times etc and compare to stock. Then make a youtube video of that & not an old pickup, but maybe a Honda Civic or something like that. Also, I read that 10% H2 would work with this and no need for gasoline. If my car was converted over, I would want to know if the acceleration is impacted, if driving range is impacted etc. Once you do what I'm suggesting, that's a good start. Maybe the government is being paid off, but start with a modern car full conversion.

  • @Jim89M
    @Jim89M 4 года назад

    Where is this machine gets the power? What's is the efficiency of the engine?. Whats the efficiency of the engine runing on HNO3?

    • @Denverfleuryy
      @Denverfleuryy 2 года назад

      He claims about 85% power of a gas engine so slightly less power

    • @Ktmfan450
      @Ktmfan450 2 года назад

      @@Denverfleuryy Energy density of ammonia is 1/2 that of gasoline

  • @docnoahbody
    @docnoahbody 2 года назад +4

    dont need Gov permission..just go do it..as if I need the gov permission to use ammonia on anything..pleasee..start selling to the car consumer at fast rates and there will be nothing the gov can do..we will all have it

  • @shermanowen8491
    @shermanowen8491 4 года назад +1

    The most efficient processes using natural gas for feedstock. It currently take 10MMwh electricity to make 1 tonne of ammonia. That is 2.8 tonnes of co2 per 1 tonne of nh3. I don't thik this processes is going to top what industry has been optimizing for 100 years. I don't know where he is getting his numbers but current ag prices are $500 to $700 per tonne. That is $0.70 per kilo or $2.50 a gallon.

    • @adrianthoroughgood1191
      @adrianthoroughgood1191 2 года назад +1

      In the past industry didn't care about co2 emissions. They need to be made to care by taxing co2 emissions. That will incentivise first reductions then elimination of co2 emissions. We have to stop all fossil fuel use as soon as alternatives can develop. Using non carbon electricity to produce ammonia from air and water can make a carbon free liquid energy store which can be loaded onto tankers and shipped wherever in the world it is needed like oil is today. It is much easier to transport than hydrogen is.

    • @docnoahbody
      @docnoahbody 2 года назад

      @@adrianthoroughgood1191 humans only make up..just under 5% of all carbon emissions on earth...this is a stat from people that actually work in climate

    • @RC206
      @RC206 2 года назад +2

      I'm good with $2.50 a gallon!

    • @mail-qh2qc
      @mail-qh2qc Год назад

      So setup an ammonia plant that uses hydropower

  • @drpoundsign
    @drpoundsign 2 года назад

    The Japanese have a low-temperature catalyst to break the ammonia back down to H2+N2.

  • @aaronparys1750
    @aaronparys1750 6 лет назад +1

    interesting idea... but the vehicle still requires gasoline to start the engine (as his website states )So not really Carbon Free!! .... But charging an electric car doesn't require a lot of chemistry like his design .. as alternative Fuelling choice his idea Awesome! ...And Yes Oil is big business in Canada and have deep pockets !!!

    • @dxgi3737
      @dxgi3737 2 года назад +2

      Charging an EV is a environmental dumpster fire.
      Lithium mining is Not environment friendly
      Charging an EV from the coal/oil/gas grid is not lowering carbon.

  • @whitecrane3714
    @whitecrane3714 2 года назад

    April 14th 2022, gas is $2.00 per liter. Now it's going to launch.

  • @N330AA
    @N330AA Год назад

    Seemed to gloss over that it's highly toxic.
    Probably ok for trains but less so for cars.

  • @ronsykes5035
    @ronsykes5035 2 года назад

    The DIELECTRIC VORTEX Technology by Ronald Frederick Sykes
    Superior Levitation for your personal spacecraft

  • @AndyGrahamProductions
    @AndyGrahamProductions 2 года назад +1

    ‘Not a legal form of fuel’ . That pretty much tells you who really runs things.

  • @sovereignfreespirit
    @sovereignfreespirit 2 года назад

    1.77 for fuel today buddy

  • @robertmintz63
    @robertmintz63 2 года назад

    My grandfather in the late 1940s wrote Ford , asked them how to build a gas economize for his Fordson Major tractor , they told him , slow drip of water into the carb .
    My father was a RCAF engine mechanic 43-45 , he said they used water when the plane reached about 1000’ the smoke turned white because of adding water for added power. & cooling .
    In 1978 I bought from a man in Ohio a system that put water into the PCV hose under the carb . For 2 barrel carb engine . There was a vacuum line to the manifold , connected to a needle valve that was spring loaded , with a rheostat # 1-12 , as the manifold vac dropped with acceleration the spring pushed or pulled the needle open , allowing water to be sucked into PCV line from 1 gallon antifreeze bottle under the hood . Prior to Installing it on a 67 Chevy / 75 350 motor with 10’ camper . Trips from Phx Ariz to Flag full 20 Gal tank now on E , after installation needle above the 1/4 tank , so 13-14 Gal gas + 2 Gal water !

    • @robertmintz63
      @robertmintz63 2 года назад

      After I sold the Pu , put it on a 429 Mercury Monterey wagon , my son would add 2pt isopropyl alcohol , & smoke the Comaros & Chevells .
      It required a 2 barrel carb, for high internal engine vac . Later put it in a box in my garage , & when we sold the house & moved it somhow got lost . Wish someone would make more!

  • @Hekkietoir
    @Hekkietoir 3 года назад +11

    Give your patent out for free like Elon Musk

    • @spawn3d703
      @spawn3d703 2 года назад +3

      its the only way to do it. He will never go to market the patent route, They control the patent offices.

  • @robertanderson2142
    @robertanderson2142 Год назад

    Yup his discovery has been pinched by ford

  • @510Finnatic
    @510Finnatic 2 года назад +1

    Need a billionaire, like Elon to realize that battery technology and the infrastructure is not long lasting or sustainable for the future in order to make this go global. Also, need to start looking at longer lasting self-renewing THORIUM power generation in place of dangerous Plutonium. New power plants that run on Thorium which can turn steam turbine generators are safer than traditional Plutonium should be built, the newer, safer, cleaner, nuclear power plants.

  • @sayasakisaka7609
    @sayasakisaka7609 2 года назад

    Mate, how are you getting that ammonia to burn exactly? You can't just use oxygen to burn ammonia afterall. Get deeper into the science of your engine and show us it in action.

  • @stephenshrubsall2144
    @stephenshrubsall2144 2 года назад

    Please look at the new freedom political party's Available in Australia after our election,s people like Rod Callington,or Ricardo Bossi ,Pauline Hanson,Clive Palmer, these are worthy leaders to send info or get in contact with good luck and blessings to you and family

    • @Ktmfan450
      @Ktmfan450 2 года назад

      Clive Palmer is a joke and only wants to make as much money as his fat hands can get a hold of

  • @lou4663
    @lou4663 7 месяцев назад

    This guy is just as bad as the conglomerate fossil persons. Amogy in the US has started introducing NH3 for large engines Marine vessels, tractors.