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  • @Dispariabooks
    @Dispariabooks 28 дней назад +119

    Pog: imma take it easy from now to the finish and ride at just 8 W/KG... gotta save the legs for the Tour.

    • @user-ei4ck2nj9j
      @user-ei4ck2nj9j 28 дней назад +19

      Has simply gone of his pace. He is simply training, actually probably his workouts are even harder

    • @SB-nh7uv
      @SB-nh7uv 28 дней назад +9

      fully natty bro

    • @glanci82
      @glanci82 28 дней назад

      Hahahahah hahahhahha

    • @veganpotterthevegan
      @veganpotterthevegan 28 дней назад

      @Mike-rm1lb it's not a strong field and Jonas' win last year was more incredible. This is an easy joke for Pogi

  • @samj1185
    @samj1185 28 дней назад +158

    Good for him and good for EF. EF does a fantastic job of developing and then losing talent to other teams.

    • @KL-gl3qs
      @KL-gl3qs 28 дней назад +3

      Bora will do it

    • @veganpotterthevegan
      @veganpotterthevegan 28 дней назад +35

      Educating them first

    • @iansteelmatheson
      @iansteelmatheson 28 дней назад +11

      it's because they have less money to pay top riders.

    • @samj1185
      @samj1185 28 дней назад

      @@iansteelmatheson historically, true. I was hoping the acquisition of Carapaz was an indication of more generous purse strings?"

    • @bencul97
      @bencul97 28 дней назад

      Spoiler blocker fail!

  • @SirDonaldJPump
    @SirDonaldJPump 28 дней назад +25

    Hammer 😍 Glückwunsch 🎊🍾🎉🇩🇪

  • @INFINITnutritionUS
    @INFINITnutritionUS 28 дней назад +38

    Great stage win.

  • @petyrkowalski9887
    @petyrkowalski9887 28 дней назад +102

    I honestly thing Pog is using the Giro as a tune up for the Tour De France

    • @RachelSchloer
      @RachelSchloer 28 дней назад +14

      The way Vingegaard is currently, I don’t think anyone else will come close to challenging him in the tour either

    • @chris8456
      @chris8456 28 дней назад +4

      😂😂Yeah, finding the perfect balance of PEDs takes a couple weeks in a real competition environment.

    • @ultimatelv27
      @ultimatelv27 28 дней назад +2

      Too bad there won't be any competition for Pogi. It would've been more exciting TDF.

    • @iansteelmatheson
      @iansteelmatheson 28 дней назад

      we'll see. he might want to go for the olympics too (though it depends on the parcours of course), and both might be difficult, even for him!

    • @lester8403
      @lester8403 28 дней назад

      Pogacar will win the Tour this year!! As a Dane i dont see how Vingegaard can win this year even before the crash

  • @itsalegendsproduction
    @itsalegendsproduction 28 дней назад +26

    That boy was so elated!

  • @spezi_korn2019
    @spezi_korn2019 28 дней назад +44

    JAAAAA MAAAANNNN!!!!!😍😍 GEORG

  • @abhramandal3706
    @abhramandal3706 28 дней назад +9

    Starting to think that Pogi's strategy is "do not crash" maybe that's why he keeps creating a gap even where it's not needed. Dude is really trying to correct the mistakes he did in last TDF.

  • @Maridolist
    @Maridolist 28 дней назад +2

    Super Steini🎉 Und danke Pogi das du ihn hast gewinnen lassen 😂

  • @user-qx1vh8xk6b
    @user-qx1vh8xk6b 28 дней назад +4

    That tarmac looks ultra smooth

  • @tommyrq180
    @tommyrq180 28 дней назад +24

    Pog went with pink jersey and BLACK shorts today, so he’s keeping the UCI guessing! 😂 And I think the UCI should investigate Pog’s suspicious HAIR TUFTS coming out of his helmet, which always seem to be there when he dominates… 😂. Those aero hair tufts-something going on! Love that guy. He’s a stone cold killer. Super composed, beautiful bike presence, and devastating on so many levels. Glad to see EF and Steinhauser have their day.

    • @wingtip76
      @wingtip76 28 дней назад +3

      Didn't they say the same about Lance😂😂

    • @tommyrq180
      @tommyrq180 28 дней назад +2

      @@wingtip76 No. No hair tufts for Lance. Lance was a stone cold killer, however. I had to deal with him at the OTC before he was a pro. He wasn’t a nice guy but he was unbelievably competitive. His biographer said “If Lance wasn’t the best cyclist in the world he’d be seeing a psychiatrist for his personality disorders.” I’d say that’s about right.

    • @chris8456
      @chris8456 28 дней назад +5

      Lance was and still is a POS. Tadej is super nice and humble.
      Their domination is the same. Everyone thought Lance was clean. Now we know. Unfortunately the same is most likely coming for Tadej.

    • @tonycrabtree3416
      @tonycrabtree3416 28 дней назад

      THOSE DANGED HAIR TUFTS!!

    • @tommyrq180
      @tommyrq180 28 дней назад +1

      @@chris8456 Elite athletes are very different, typically in more ways than just physically. Driven competitors tend to not be “nice.” Some exceptions because everyone is different and when it comes to humans, it’s hard to make rules. Lance was a beast on the bike. So is Pog. Off the bike, different!

  • @BreakawayB
    @BreakawayB 28 дней назад +3

    Really good finish.
    Great winner, great ride from Pog, and another solid outing from Tiberi.

  • @peterkariuki5140
    @peterkariuki5140 28 дней назад +11

    Before Pog pulled away, it means the rest Martinez and Gareit Thomas were already in the red , they were already hurting 😂😂

  • @dennisl4027
    @dennisl4027 28 дней назад +5

    Congratulations to Georg Steinhauser! Very strong 💪

  • @kennykaniff
    @kennykaniff 27 дней назад

    This is the kind of thing that real cycling fans LOVE to see!! Young upcoming lads winning their first GT stage!!! Absolutely brilliant!!! Not sure if Rob Hatch has told us that his uncle is Jan Ulrich enough times tho😂😂😂😂
    🤘🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @taka8108
    @taka8108 28 дней назад +12

    Chapeau to Steinhauser! And I guess pogi just doesn't like cat and mouse chase in the bunch, it's faster to ride your own pace

  • @user-nt8dy4xw9r
    @user-nt8dy4xw9r 28 дней назад

    His smile is so full of joy and hope. May his future career shines brightly!!

  • @WanderingSword
    @WanderingSword 28 дней назад +1

    Jonas & fanboys: Pogi is doping 🤣

  • @StefanB1982
    @StefanB1982 28 дней назад

    MASCHINE 🦵🏻 🚲 Klasse Georg Steinhauser und EF education... fantastic job

  • @BigBeezyBtown
    @BigBeezyBtown 28 дней назад +6

    Beating off the competition

  • @deanchen6591
    @deanchen6591 28 дней назад +1

    Pog on a nice zone 2 training ride😂

  • @tx4n
    @tx4n 28 дней назад

    Such a beautiful climb, Brocon

  • @SanDiego-qm9kq
    @SanDiego-qm9kq 27 дней назад

    I'm so glad to see that Toasty Focaccia stopped wearing the pink shorts. The pink bodysuit and entire pink color scheme on everything was ridiculous.

  • @RenatoDeFiesta
    @RenatoDeFiesta 27 дней назад

    poggy make history Giro D italia 24 🎉❤❤❤

  • @riquelmeone
    @riquelmeone 28 дней назад +6

    Pogacar can go into Tour training mode now

  • @torassque
    @torassque 28 дней назад

    Bravoo!!!

  • @gernotf
    @gernotf 28 дней назад

    Glückwunsch!

  • @marcusmaher-triskellionfil5158
    @marcusmaher-triskellionfil5158 28 дней назад +10

    I guess Podgy winning another stage would be so brazen at this point that the rest might as well pack up and go home, he's hardly trying and his competitors are going backwards....sadly many will cheer this on but tbh I'm too long in the tooth to believe this is done clean, I do not know how UAE are doing it but doing it they are....
    Podgy is the perfect guinea pig to the doctors and physicians they've got on the payroll...
    Sadly we've been here too many times.

    • @stephenbradshaw9126
      @stephenbradshaw9126 28 дней назад +6

      Sadly, I agree completely with you.

    • @mracer8
      @mracer8 28 дней назад

      @@stephenbradshaw9126 Sadly you 2 are smoking crack while posting in youtube! Sadly there is no law against that!

  • @jasonpearlman6236
    @jasonpearlman6236 28 дней назад

    “Groundhog Day”; this commentator is killing it with these great bits of humor

    • @tonycrabtree3416
      @tonycrabtree3416 28 дней назад +6

      ground Pog is what he said.

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 28 дней назад +1

      GroundPog day. Much better 😂😂

  • @luizmaria.rovetta218
    @luizmaria.rovetta218 28 дней назад +2

    Vencer uma etapa de chegada no alto da montanha é realmente motivo de alegria, para o atleta e equipe.

  • @johnking-ub7eu
    @johnking-ub7eu 28 дней назад

    Pog Looks like he is just on a Sunday ride it looks ridiculous ,well done to EF fully deserved,

  • @Frostbiker
    @Frostbiker 28 дней назад

    Wow! First time seeing Tadej climbing out of the saddle in this Giro. Like it took some actual effort for him this time. Maybe he got a cold.

  • @kennykaniff
    @kennykaniff 27 дней назад

    A few things from today's stage . . .
    *VF-BARDIANI is doing quite well. I'm very impressed!!
    *UAE was pretty much blown apart early in the past 2 stages. They do come back together slightly but for the most part this confirms my belief that it's not a very strong TEAM. Pogi is strong but NOT the team as a whole
    *What was DSM doing?! No e of could figure it out. I don't even know if DSM knew what they were doing😂 Got dropped, then caught up with a pretty decisive drive back to the peloton and then stopped working😳 then they let a small break get away and all that other really confusing things they did/didn't do🤔🤔🤔
    *D Martinez was on his own very early on and then on the last climb he made a short and weak offensive move only to get Pogi to react and as Pogi caught him Pogi just figured, "Hell, why not?! Don't mind if I do!!" and went on a pretty respectful and slow mini attack😂
    🤘🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @MarkRadcliffe
    @MarkRadcliffe 28 дней назад +1

    @5:38 Might wanna try another phrase than "beating off the competition"... 😂

    • @hendrixinfinity3992
      @hendrixinfinity3992 28 дней назад

      It's actually a super common phrase and you have a dirty mind.

  • @edymarkonthego4096
    @edymarkonthego4096 28 дней назад

    Fighting for second position is better to watch out. Pog still counting for stage win.

  • @prulcan
    @prulcan 28 дней назад +1

    Pogi we called him here in Slovenia.. go go Pogi..

  • @kidchris1
    @kidchris1 28 дней назад +2

    Sooner or later the truth will be revealed about „wonderboy“ poggy, tooooo strong to be real, can‘t watch this anymore

  • @MJQuintana
    @MJQuintana 28 дней назад

    I think TadPog have 4 lungs 😂😂😂

  • @liammerrick6399
    @liammerrick6399 28 дней назад +4

    ground pog day lol.

  • @maddoc68
    @maddoc68 28 дней назад +2

    💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

  • @Force_kin22
    @Force_kin22 28 дней назад +4

    God bless all on Odin's day of sacrifice! . . . Take care one and all.

  • @crooksffm2175
    @crooksffm2175 28 дней назад +1

    JAWOLL GEORG!!!! MAAAAAASCHINE!!!

  • @ehyouman
    @ehyouman 28 дней назад

    Finally EF

  • @crishubby2922
    @crishubby2922 28 дней назад +1

    Pog is goin to flame out a the tour if he is nor careful

  • @lucaswilliams1011
    @lucaswilliams1011 28 дней назад

    Eddie Merckx has lost his crown we have a new greatest of ever .

  • @aysegulgoknar
    @aysegulgoknar 28 дней назад

    😘🤗🤞🙏

  • @steveb6990
    @steveb6990 28 дней назад

    Bump to spoil the spoilers

  • @savagepro9060
    @savagepro9060 28 дней назад +3

    Go ahead, have all your fun Pogacar. You will meet your master at . . . Le Tour 2024!

    • @itsalegendsproduction
      @itsalegendsproduction 28 дней назад +3

      How plugged are you into the world of cycling? Vingegaard lost weeks to a crash and injury and has not had any training. Pog, on the other hand, is at his peak. He might be a bit tired in July, but he'll be in much better shape than Vingegaard. It is unlikely Vingegaard will be a serious contender; some say he might not even rider. The threat will most likely come from Roglic and Evenepoel, and Pog is miles ahead of those two on a normal day.

    • @michaeldepaikel
      @michaeldepaikel 28 дней назад

      Jonas isn’t gonna make it, especially without Wout as domestique

  • @paulsolon6229
    @paulsolon6229 28 дней назад

    Pogacar saving for tour
    Wisdom

  • @user-vi1yj9sr8j
    @user-vi1yj9sr8j 28 дней назад

    Погачар уже давно говорил, что хочет поехать Джиро... Вот и поехал😃. А в Туре еще не ясно кто победит...

  • @ilark1001
    @ilark1001 28 дней назад +1

    Even though Pogi could take the stage he didn't....not a good look to be too greedy in todays world. Oh and "beat off" the competition. 🤣

  • @user-km3hv8qo9p
    @user-km3hv8qo9p 28 дней назад

    Not bad commentating but the style makes it sound like football.

  • @argent2345
    @argent2345 28 дней назад +3

    I thought his uncle Jan Ulrich would be there at the finish line to greet him

  • @paulsolon6229
    @paulsolon6229 28 дней назад +2

    S Kelly can’t talk w o saying
    You know

  • @NdarifiteJean
    @NdarifiteJean 28 дней назад +2

    I bet tadej riding an e_bike😂😂

  • @ohnezuckerohnefett
    @ohnezuckerohnefett 28 дней назад

    Give the others e-bikes and they still don't have a chance.

  • @fatman5664
    @fatman5664 28 дней назад +3

    Man that’s becoming embarrassing for the others and for cycling… come on… that can’t be only some aero gains and some malto/fructose gel’s…

    • @jono1457-qd9ft
      @jono1457-qd9ft 28 дней назад

      They aren't at Pogacar's level.

    • @hughjanus7354
      @hughjanus7354 28 дней назад

      @@jono1457-qd9ft ...of dope (dope being used here as "amazing" of course)

    • @fatman5664
      @fatman5664 27 дней назад

      @@jono1457-qd9ft wake up

  • @adamrathmell6586
    @adamrathmell6586 28 дней назад +2

    Spoiler blocker

  • @derekpugh5457
    @derekpugh5457 28 дней назад +1

    He’s riding within himself so it doesn’t look to dodgy, 7 mins on GC 😳😂😂

  • @deanwaring6100
    @deanwaring6100 28 дней назад

    ...... come on ..... really 😂😂😂

  • @baddaddyfish2271
    @baddaddyfish2271 28 дней назад +1

    I believe that Pogi exchanged something with saitan…

  • @baldyslapnut.
    @baldyslapnut. 28 дней назад

    As good as Pogacar is, he is definitely getting ready for the Tour excuses with these efforts.

  • @Ghostina1
    @Ghostina1 28 дней назад

    Thats why i ride a LAB71

    • @n8torious309
      @n8torious309 28 дней назад

      Yeah but its a Cannondale 🤢

    • @hughjanus7354
      @hughjanus7354 28 дней назад +2

      One small issue here - he most likely didn't ride a LAB71 here.

  • @Marc-nc9yv
    @Marc-nc9yv 28 дней назад

    hope he isnt killing his tour.

  • @TheLemon333
    @TheLemon333 28 дней назад

    Beating off the competition. Lol.

  • @Karollenart
    @Karollenart 28 дней назад +4

    This looks really wierd. Pogi goes Z2 to the finish while guys behind him can barely catch a breath... Wtf.. This looks really suspicious.

  • @climbnride58
    @climbnride58 28 дней назад +4

    Tadaj = Lance #2

  • @againstthegrain147
    @againstthegrain147 28 дней назад +6

    When do the drug scandals start with Pogager?

  • @ringoggaringo
    @ringoggaringo 28 дней назад

    Boring tour, no excitement, no competition

  • @andrewegan1732
    @andrewegan1732 28 дней назад

    " Podgatcher" ? Podicar.

    • @hughjanus7354
      @hughjanus7354 28 дней назад

      Rob "Guud moaning" Hatch c'est un genius a linguistique.

  • @peterneumann7145
    @peterneumann7145 28 дней назад +1

    Fed up of you pog . Boring

  • @johnandrews3568
    @johnandrews3568 28 дней назад +2

    Pog to DS: right Imma drop the hammer and catch him to win the stage
    DS to Pog: FFS man, throttle it back cuz you're looking WAAAAY to obviously doped. Give someone else a chance
    Pog: copy that.

  • @phillippitts6294
    @phillippitts6294 28 дней назад +1

    He was probably told not to win , just gain some time on your rivals

    • @Force_kin22
      @Force_kin22 28 дней назад +2

      Great Odins raven . . . What?

    • @phillippitts6294
      @phillippitts6294 28 дней назад +1

      @@Force_kin22 3 wins in a row would send speculation off the charts 💉

    • @Force_kin22
      @Force_kin22 28 дней назад +2

      True 👍

  • @richardstewart5499
    @richardstewart5499 28 дней назад

    What a joke.

  • @Jizzan
    @Jizzan 28 дней назад

    The Pogacar PED hate talking needs to stop

    • @jonoharper4729
      @jonoharper4729 28 дней назад

      Why? Because he's a nice guy?
      Anyone else, less likeable, many questions would be asked.
      This disparity in levels of performance is dubious and highly questionable.

    • @Jizzan
      @Jizzan 28 дней назад

      @jonoharper4729 No, it's because people are innocent until proven guilty. The difference in performance is because there are no first tier riders in this Giro except for Pogacar.

  • @NillerMann
    @NillerMann 28 дней назад +1

    SPOILER BLOCKER

  • @Force_kin22
    @Force_kin22 28 дней назад +3

    When the drugs don't work . . .

    • @user-ok7ek8ld7s
      @user-ok7ek8ld7s 28 дней назад

      Mad Kid

    • @Force_kin22
      @Force_kin22 28 дней назад +1

      @@user-ok7ek8ld7s I agree with you.

    • @Force_kin22
      @Force_kin22 28 дней назад +1

      @@user-ok7ek8ld7s Have you thought about seeing a doctor for your madness? 🤔🤔

  • @user-cy1dv5fi3o
    @user-cy1dv5fi3o 28 дней назад

    Most boring Giro i can remember. Something amiss with this one.

  • @thomreynolds1318
    @thomreynolds1318 28 дней назад +6

    After Armstrong do people really believe Pog is clean?

    • @SRobinson1485
      @SRobinson1485 28 дней назад

      There's no reason to doubt it

    • @fritsgerms3565
      @fritsgerms3565 28 дней назад +1

      What does Armstrong have to do with Pog? Pog gets tested more times than he gets to have meals. The drug testing has become insane in terms of effort and availability. Very, very different from the Armstrong period. Pog blood is done by so many people (and also known), that if he doped, all his team mates would know. One could never keep it quiet. And typically it's not the best guys that dope. Armstrong was not a special rider until he started doping. Pog on the other hand has been a generational talent from the beginning. And many many people are checking to see if he is doping or not.

  • @neilbathe7752
    @neilbathe7752 28 дней назад +1

    What I fail to understand from the commentators is that none of the other GC riders really care what Pogacar does anymore. If he does't crash out, or get busted for doping then he will win. The rest of the GC are racing for 2nd in the Giro to add to their palmares... Whoever comes second will possibly/probably be elevated in a few years time as testing protocols (utilising frozen urine samples) improve...

  • @drainsilvercod139
    @drainsilvercod139 28 дней назад

    SPOILER BLOCK 😡

  • @obiseankenobi2056
    @obiseankenobi2056 28 дней назад

    love the 120w kooks trying to beliittle the rest of the GC with their comments here - not everyone is on the epogaicar program and just because you bought a colnagirello doesn't mean anyone gives a damn what you think.

  • @hoerger7341
    @hoerger7341 28 дней назад +1

    I’m really annoyed by all the comments blaming Pogi of doping. It was clear from the start that he will dominate the Giro as his key competitors don’t participate. Of course his performance is astonishing, but at the moment there is zero proof that he is taking something illegal. And the comparison to Lance is pretty off as back then everyone was doping (although him and his team had perfected it). And why was no one blaming Jonas of doping last year when he won the TdF in very dominant fashion? Let’s be happy to see such a level of athleticism. If there should be proof one day we can all throw dirt at him, but for now please stop these allegations.

    • @jonoharper4729
      @jonoharper4729 28 дней назад

      So because you like him, you're a fan....then it can't be true?
      No, over 7 minutes on GC, and here he rode zone 2 throughout and still pulled a gap on the chasers up final climb. Highly suspicious results.
      Oh btw, I like Pogi too, but I'm a realist.

    • @hoerger7341
      @hoerger7341 28 дней назад

      @@jonoharper4729 Why do you prefer to judge someone without any proof?

    • @TuanTran-ys6ed
      @TuanTran-ys6ed 28 дней назад

      @@jonoharper4729 How about Jonas won TDF last year with 14 minutes gap on Jai Hindley who won Giro 2022? Tbf, Pogi/Jonas are at another level.

  • @traviskeefe3484
    @traviskeefe3484 28 дней назад +7

    He’s 100% on drugs, it’s so easy to see…

    • @baowenger
      @baowenger 28 дней назад +5

      How do you see it?

    • @RaineriHakkarainen
      @RaineriHakkarainen 28 дней назад

      Ganna 56,7km hour record! Dopers Rominger and Bradley Wiggings only 54-55km hour records! Ganna beat Pogacar time trial! No-one believes clean cyclist go faster than Doping cyclists!!

    • @RaineriHakkarainen
      @RaineriHakkarainen 28 дней назад

      Of course they are not clean Ganna and Pogacar because they go faster than Lance Armstrong! Totally clean would lose 3-4 minutes 60 minutes time trial to Ganna and Armstrong!

    • @Real_Shawn
      @Real_Shawn 28 дней назад +8

      WTF are you talking about

    • @michaeldepaikel
      @michaeldepaikel 28 дней назад +7

      Makes no sense, all the time was won up a climb. Next you’re gonna say Milan is a doper because he goes faster in the sprint than Ganna??

  • @user-if3fk9mj4c
    @user-if3fk9mj4c 28 дней назад +1

    This Giro is a joke. There are no one from top 10 climbers. Only one baby-face arrogant media pet boy. If here was Vingegaard, it is very likely that Pogachar once again will be " I am done! I am dead!" Do u remember that.

    • @dejandoles2683
      @dejandoles2683 27 дней назад

      So you forget Pogačar rode alone while Jonas had entire Visma train. Put one on one on the start and you might be surprised.

  • @daniluis7777
    @daniluis7777 28 дней назад

    After this Giro the likes of Martinez, O Connor, and Thomas should never ever be named as favorites to win any Grand Tour.
    Pogacar has embarrassed them both and everyone else in this. Thomas and Martinez’s performance are appalling at best.

    • @scottbaker5851
      @scottbaker5851 28 дней назад +1

      I've never thought O'Conner has a GC favorite.

    • @somersetfan1
      @somersetfan1 28 дней назад +1

      And Thomas is 37...

    • @madzornschmidt3991
      @madzornschmidt3991 28 дней назад

      martinez ist der helfer von roglic, der giro ist sein bestes grand tour ergebnis

    • @daniluis7777
      @daniluis7777 28 дней назад

      @@scottbaker5851 well the pundits said he was. Hahahaha

    • @daniluis7777
      @daniluis7777 28 дней назад

      @@somersetfan1 here we go the age excuse. Hahahaha

  • @CUPAVI1
    @CUPAVI1 28 дней назад +2

    How can anybody show any enthusiasm for this doping contest is beyond me

  • @cristianivan8879
    @cristianivan8879 28 дней назад +1

    Abolish cycling because it's a circus, what a misery, no one talks about doping anymore, there are too many libists, how can a cyclist earn in light years, let me understand that he is clean, you are crazy

    • @jono1457-qd9ft
      @jono1457-qd9ft 28 дней назад

      You're in the wrong mindset. You're thinking like a doper.

  • @federicobenvenuto1127
    @federicobenvenuto1127 28 дней назад

    Manco a ruota gli stanno 😂 che fenomeno è questo qua , in Italia i mattoni in salita abbiamo si allenano male sicuramente