Ancient Semitic V: Classical Hebrew

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  • Опубликовано: 15 апр 2022
  • In the fifth video of my new series I am talking about Classical Hebrew, also known as Biblical Hebrew. The main focus is on the pronunciation of Tiberian Hebrew based on sources from the early Middle Ages, like the grammatical treatise "Hidāyat al-Qāriʼ" written by Abū al-Faraǧ Hārūn.
    Contents:
    00:00:30 The Hebrew Language
    00:11:19 How to Read and Pronounce Classical Hebrew
    00:19:48 The Hebrew Letters
    00:45:51 The Vowels
    00:57:37 Sample Text
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Комментарии • 56

  • @dhectr
    @dhectr 2 года назад +17

    I don't usually comment on youtube videos, but I gotta say: Thank you for being the future of academic education! When I went to university, presenting lectures like this on the internet was considered near heresy. Glad that changed. This whole series is very compelling, educative and well-presented. Keep up the good work!

  • @hannimalgray4978
    @hannimalgray4978 4 месяца назад +2

    Aloha ani Shainia toda raba for this easy way to learn. Enjoyed this tremendously. Mahaloe nui loa
    Aloha

  • @richardhayward5814
    @richardhayward5814 Год назад +2

    This is an excellent and very thorough treatment of the phonetics, with a delightful clarity for any traditionally trained linguist. Just one slip of the tongue, however, when describing [v and [f] as labiovelars rather than labiodentals.

  • @benavraham4397
    @benavraham4397 2 года назад +12

    Syrian Jews traditionally pronounce Vav as V, even though such sound doesn't exist in Arabic. It looks like they have carefully maintained the Tiberian Vav.

    • @AbuRashidIbrahim
      @AbuRashidIbrahim 2 года назад +1

      It doesn't exist in Arabic because it's not a native Semitic sound. It made its way into Hebrew through influence of non-Semitic languages that Jews spoke.

    • @benavraham4397
      @benavraham4397 2 года назад +3

      @@AbuRashidIbrahim Arabic is extreamly conservative, while other Semitic language made all kinds of changes. In particular, modern Aramaic has merged W with B.
      2000 years ago, European languages did not have V. In late Antiquity a wave of mispronunciation swept over the Mediterranean and changed W to V. It affect Aramaic also, but Arabic was so deep inland, Arabic remained unchanged.
      Germanic languages 2000 year ago did not have SH. It evolved from SK.
      Even Arabic did not have SH 1500 years ago, since every SH in Hebrew is switched to S in Arabic, as Moshe became Musa.

    • @AbuRashidIbrahim
      @AbuRashidIbrahim 2 года назад +2

      @@benavraham4397 I think both Aramaic and Hebrew got this sound from Persian influence. Persians do pronounce w as v.

    • @benavraham4397
      @benavraham4397 2 года назад +1

      @@AbuRashidIbrahim Turning W into V goes up into Russia, and east all the way through India. I would have said you are exactly right, except that although modern Aramaic has merged V and W, it still retains the emphatics Tet and Sade exactly as in Arabic, while non-Semitic languages don't have such sounds. So I think that west Semitic languages are inclined to do strange things like turning W to V, and long A into O. And in Phoenician from O to U.

    • @AbuRashidIbrahim
      @AbuRashidIbrahim 2 года назад

      @@benavraham4397 except very few north west Semitic languages do. Ugaritic does not, other varieties of Canaanite do not and even other dialects of Hebrew do not.

  • @lealbuniak7028
    @lealbuniak7028 14 дней назад +1

    מעניין מאוד תודה רבה 🙏

  • @lm7338
    @lm7338 2 года назад +3

    Very thankful for this vid!

  • @Tony-zh1kz
    @Tony-zh1kz 2 года назад +4

    Great Easter gift (I should have said this about a week ago, but ah well, the circumstances)! I hope to come forward for a video on Classical Arabic/Arabic languages.

    • @AncientSemitic
      @AncientSemitic  2 года назад +3

      I'm already working on a Classical Arabic video. It's going to be video #8.

  • @Tamir-Barkahan
    @Tamir-Barkahan 2 года назад +6

    /ɬ/ did in fact merge with /ʃ/ in Samaritan Hebrew (possibly a descendant of Ephraimite Hebrew).

    • @EitanchikChannel
      @EitanchikChannel 2 месяца назад

      how do we know about this merger in Phoenician?

  • @stevenv6463
    @stevenv6463 Год назад +3

    I wish modern Hebrew will fix these vowels to more easily represent how they speak now.

  • @1100100il
    @1100100il 2 года назад +5

    Congratulation for becoming active again. What happend to your older videos? I really liked the video about the letters from Ugarit.

    • @AncientSemitic
      @AncientSemitic  2 года назад +2

      They are not listed but you can still access them.through a playlist.

  • @Najeeb-bd8bj
    @Najeeb-bd8bj 2 года назад +4

    Since I’m an Arabic speaker I want to know what is your favorite dialect and also why are you uploading fastly?

  • @avidamateur3067
    @avidamateur3067 Год назад +2

    I understand that in modern Turkish
    and modern Farsi The word for ''and'' presumably borrowed from Arabic ''wa'' is ''va''.
    as in Tiberian Hebrew.'

  • @davidbarber3821
    @davidbarber3821 Год назад +3

    It's like.... things I've learned are wrong

  • @conservativetlv4691
    @conservativetlv4691 11 месяцев назад

    Another correction: as far as I know the letter vav in Tiberian Hebrew was pronounced [v], except before a shva and the letters בומפ when it was pronounced [u], but never [w].

    • @AncientSemitic
      @AncientSemitic  11 месяцев назад +1

      You should read "The Tiberian Pronunciation Tradition of Biblical Hebrew" published by Geoffrey Khan in 2021.
      It contains a complete translation of the Hidayat al-Qari by Aaron of Jerusalem and explains these phonetic details.

  • @modustrollens7833
    @modustrollens7833 2 месяца назад

    1:00:01 1:00:44 1:00:50 1:00:56 1:01:10 1:01:23 1:01:38 1:01:48 1:02:00 1:02:04 1:02:10 1:02:20 instances of ayin

  • @benavraham4397
    @benavraham4397 2 года назад +4

    In modern Aramaic they pronounce Chet the same way as European Jews do. Why not say that the European pronunciation Chet was a casual pronunciation of ancient Aramaic/Hebrew?

    • @AbuRashidIbrahim
      @AbuRashidIbrahim 2 года назад +2

      In ancient Hebrew there were two distinct phonemes, represented as ح and خ in Arabic still, but in ancient Hebrew both were just represented by the same letter ח but we know both phonemes still existed from transliterations into Greek.
      Modern Hebrew has lost this distinction. In fact modern Hebrew has lost about 1/3 of the original proto-Semitic phonemic repertoire.

    • @benavraham4397
      @benavraham4397 2 года назад +2

      @@AbuRashidIbrahim
      YES👍!
      It is obvious that Biblical Hebrew had Het vs Khet, and 'Ayin vs Ghayin, just like modern Arabic. Hebrew in the past was much more colorful ! People who know Hebrew and Arabic both are very fortunate.

    • @benavraham4397
      @benavraham4397 2 года назад

      @@AbuRashidIbrahim
      Perhaps when Aramaic/Hebrew merged ح and خ, there were many people who took the خ pronunciation, and that included the Jews who went to Europe. Most of modern Aramaic today is uses the خ for Het. How else would you explain that? It's pretty strange that most modern Aramaic has ص and ط, but not ح.

    • @bangtan8565
      @bangtan8565 2 года назад +1

      @@benavraham4397 it's a dialect thing maybe? since not all forms of modern aramaic do this. and modern hebrew is a language not a pronunciation. original accent of modern hebrew was more like Russian mixed with sephardic.

    • @Abilliph
      @Abilliph 2 года назад +2

      @@bangtan8565 the original intent in modern Hebrew was only the Sephardic pronunciation.. meaning using the Spanish R, and the original Hebrew Heth and Ayin.
      Hebrew was influenced by Yiddish, which is influenced by German... That's the reason for the disappearance of those sounds and the use of the German or French R.

  • @perguto
    @perguto Год назад +5

    34:33 😳

  • @yosefschoen1742
    @yosefschoen1742 Год назад +3

    עליכם שלום

  • @PathOfAvraham
    @PathOfAvraham 2 года назад +2

    Where does Samaratian pronunciation fit in?

    • @AncientSemitic
      @AncientSemitic  2 года назад +4

      It differs a lot from any other pronunciation tradition. As far as I understand the Samaritan tradition went its own way long before the codification of Tiberian Hebrew. That's why I didn't include it in this video. It would deserve a video of it's own. Unfortunately the available materials are a little scarce which is why I haven't figured out any plans for a Samaritan Hebrew video yet.

  • @modustrollens7833
    @modustrollens7833 2 месяца назад

    39:00 treatment of resh

  • @conservativetlv4691
    @conservativetlv4691 11 месяцев назад +1

    Just a correction: not "wu-ḵǝṯuḇim" but "uḵṯuḇim".

  • @benavraham4397
    @benavraham4397 Год назад

    'Ayin
    Do have any explation how Italian and Potuagese Jews came to pronounce it Ngayin? For example they would say "Shmang" for "Shma." Also the Ashkenazi Jews pronounce the name Ya'akov as "Yangkov."

    • @AncientSemitic
      @AncientSemitic  Год назад +3

      I think it was simply the closest phonetic equivalent. Both 'Ayin and the ng-sound are voiced continuants pronounced at the back of the articulatory system. Just Italian and Portuguese don't have pharyngeal sounds, so making it a velar sound was the closest they could get.
      Apparently there was some inclination to preserve the sound like this instead of just dropping it like in other traditions of Hebrew.

    • @benavraham4397
      @benavraham4397 Год назад

      @@AncientSemitic Thank you!👍

    • @igorjee
      @igorjee Месяц назад +1

      @@benavraham4397 Same as Yankiv in Ukrainian Yiddish.

  • @danielsamuel9269
    @danielsamuel9269 2 года назад

    I think at 23:24 you meant labio-dental.

    • @AncientSemitic
      @AncientSemitic  2 года назад +1

      Of course! Labio-dental, not labio-velar. 🤦‍♂️

  • @AbuRashidIbrahim
    @AbuRashidIbrahim 2 года назад

    There's no such language as Paleo-Hebrew. It is a writing system, and actually is really just the Phoenician script.

    • @AncientSemitic
      @AncientSemitic  2 года назад +7

      Call it what you want. Paleo-Hebrew, Old Hebrew, Epigraphic Hebrew. It is a distinct chronological stage of Hebrew.

    • @1100100il
      @1100100il 2 года назад +1

      This is not entirely correct. Since everyone spoke the same language more or less in the Iron age Southern Levant, and used the same writing system, local elites begins to distinguish themselves.
      Each kingdom adopts a unique national god and use special theophoric names, for example Yeho-nadab in Judah would be Chemosh-nadb in Moab. Another way to distinguish youraelf is to make small special nuances in your writing system, and thus an inscription from Judah might, on purpose, look a little bit diffrent than, lets say Moab.
      My sources are mainly from lectures from Prof. Oded Lipschits from Tel Aviv University

    • @AbuRashidIbrahim
      @AbuRashidIbrahim 2 года назад

      @@AncientSemitic the language stage is called biblical Hebrew.
      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleo-Hebrew_alphabet

    • @AbuRashidIbrahim
      @AbuRashidIbrahim 2 года назад

      @@1100100il yes there are regional variants but really just one script for all of the Canaanite dialects. The differences are so miniscule that only experts can tell them apart.

    • @AncientSemitic
      @AncientSemitic  2 года назад +2

      @@AbuRashidIbrahim
      "Hebrew inscriptions, exhibiting grammar very similar to that of Biblical Hebrew, are attested through the first millennium." Huehnergard & Pat-El: Introduction to the Semitic languages and their History.
      "With a sizeable number of inscriptions ranging from cs. 1200 BC to the Bar Kokhba letters from 132 - 135 AD, the scrolls from the Dead Sea (Qumran), the Samaritan Pentateuch, as well as the early Rabbinical (or 'Tannaitic') literature also make part of the body of 'ancient' Hebrew, this entry [i.e. Biblical Hebrew] focuses on the language in the thirty-nine books that constitute what is known as the Tanakh in the Jewish trafition and the Old Testament in the Christian tradition." Lutz Edzard: Biblical Hebrew.
      Thus it is only Biblical Hebrew if it is part of the Biblical corpus. If it is outside of the corpus, it is something else, e.g. Epigraphic/Paleo-Hebrew or Qumran Hebrew, even if the language is almost identical.
      They are all Hebrew. And they are all Ancient Hebrew. But they are not all Biblical Hebrew. There needs to be a label to sum up the paleographical as well as the diachronic differences, even if they are minuscle.
      Otherwise one could add Ammonite and Moabite to Biblical Hebrew as well.