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I dont think so. With getsy at OC this offence is never going anywhere and the defence clearly showing signs that theyre already fed up with carrying the team
@@bookwormdoe1522 it aint a threat, your getting paid to do a particular job, if you aint doing what is ask of or the level expected of, then your just a dead weight. Money can be spent better elsewhere, taking up roster space.
@@the_algorithm whats good with completion if it don't move the sticks? or turn into TD? end of the day, its about winning, it ain't about personal stats.
Are you slow? He doesn’t have time to throw to the open receivers because his OL collapses in 3 seconds. You think AOC will do better being a statue in the pocket and not being able to scramble? Incoming 8 sacks next week.
THIS is the issue. Changing to AoC isn't going to change shit. Just leave Minshew in there and figure out the damn OL and make some better damn play calls!
Imho the issue is Getsy playcalling. If all you do is run and short throws it allows the defense to crowd the box cause they do not fear the deep ball. When you watched the Panthers defense they almost knew the plays called better than our guys did cause it got so predictable. Getsy didn't have a good offense in Chicago and had brought that with him.
Where is Josh Jacobs when we need him??? Oh yeah, Green Bay..... WHY!?!?! WHY!?!?! I seriously watched the video of Nancy Kerigan crying "Why!?!?!" After the gane yesterday...
A lot of Raider fans wanted Jacobs gone and really thought White would easily replace him 🤦🏻♂️ I thought we should have paid him and upgraded our OLine
Recap: Mark Davis hires the worst GM in the AFC, Hires HC with zero NFL coaching experience let alone the offensive side at all, and hire a horrible OC with no real running back or QB. Yeah, playoffs for sure!
I couldn't agree with you more. I was ok with them hiring A.P. cuz he's solid at hyping up the team and the team was 100% behind him but hiring a garbage gm and oc def fkd us
Bringing in AOC lets him get the experience he needs to improve. He only got a half year experience last year. If we are going to lose anyway, then let Aidan get the reps he needs to keep improving.
I really don't think Pierce wanted Minshew to start. He always said it's Aidan but I think the GM and OC had a meeting with him. I'd rather see AOC anyways so I ain't mad
You ride with Aidan. See if he makes progress and becomes something. If not we know we need a QB next draft. With Gardner we know no matter what we have to draft a qb. Problem is with Gardner we know what we got. With Aidan we don’t.
@@mycrazylife408shit he rolled out yesterday n threw a dot to Tucker n Tucker kept they ball 🥴 yea AOC almost threw a pick but so did dalton once or twice we dropped em 🥴 been saying start AOC minshew has been a back up all his career jags drafted Lawrence Philly had hurts colts drafted Richardson n my thing is if minshew was sooooooo good last year y didn’t he get resigned to the colts to be Richardson back up again oh yea maybe cus he’s asss 🥴
We should give AOC a chance. He’s probably not going to make the team go to the playoffs, but he can get better and improve over time. Minshew is not our future QB
@@shannonlusk1500 No. Carr can throw for 300 and 3TD's any given Sunday with nobody like McDummy to hold him back and with this defense and Graham plus Davante Adams to throw to the Raiders are definitely a playoff team. The O-line needs a few upgrades and another RB with better vision and shiftiness then White. I think a combo of Mattison and Loebe would be better then giving White so many snaps to improve the current run game.
@@yayarearaider4636 Carr is Ballin with the Saints and he can play at that level another 4-5 years. He just went up against the top D-line in the league but everyone can see that the Saints are legit with Carr. Just because McDummy sabotaged Carr and the Raiders doesn't mean we can't pair Carr with Davante again and let them really cook. Unless O'Connell and this team can really turn things around it's a good move to make while drafting a QB for the future to develop.
@@bookwormdoe1522 I agree with that. But O'Connell is better under center because he can actually see over the line and see who's open from the pocket. Minshew can't do that and he needs to be in shotgun or be able to roll out with play action. The scheme is not good for him because of this.
The idea was to get off to a fast start in starting G Minshew. It has been a failure, blame the coaching staff. If your odds are the same with either QB because your team sux, start the younger guy with a higher upside. 😊
No O-Line, no LB Pass coverage underneath, DB's can't tackle , D-line can't stop the run. O-line can't run or pass block. No running game. Crappy gameplan. Entire team quits once down by 14, both sides of ball. This is a place where players and coaches careers come to die.
Said it after they appointed AP, they desperately need a proper HC, but coaches don't want to coach the Raiders, just ask Harbaugh so stuck with these absolute Numpties.
I think AP is trying to save face by swapping QB's. But these are the pitfalls a new HC will have. Poor decision-making. Poor planning. Rash responses. He's barely got any skin in the game, and the honeymoon phase has passed. Now we will his true colors.
If you fire him this quickly what coach in their right mind would want to be here???... No coach wants to play or coach in the spot where get fired in three games, lol. That's not stability.... Give him a chance, y'all didn't like Patrick Graham initially either... Y'all hated him but he got better as time went on as the players started to UNDERSTAND what he was doing
With the O Line, Nah. if they can't win the battle in the trenches, anyone behind that will not have big plays. No run play with the light weight of a RB we have.
Stupid scape goating. Don’t need a qb. Well we need a qb, but he also just needs to be real and tell everyone we need a new OC and he failed with that hire.
Let’s be real the oc can work but he has to changed philosophy which is kinda on Ap because he wants a run first team abandon that and become a pass to run team and everything will fix itself. We also didn’t play powers till the 3rd which was odd because he probably our best lineman. Outside of kolton.
Both AP and GM hire Getsy. AP boosted about how the bears whooped our arses and how proud he was to have him with us. And if he wasn’t involved in hiring his OC, then that proves my point further about it falling on him.
The problem is not the 1/4backs; it the coaches, they don't know how to coach to win games, scared of the goal line. Coach will be fired before half the season is over as I predicted last year while everyone was thrilled with his appointment. Raiders are going no where.
Silly question, I ask you Andy Dalton made a difference for Carolina yesterday? there's your answer, AOC is better on the court playing real games than Gardner Minshew, simply because he's bigger in stature. AOC is a QB with more arm and that worries defenses, he is a less rushing QB, he knows how to read defenses better and dares to do more things than Gardner Minshew, we can lose to AOC but we already saw what Gardner Minshew's ceiling is, the guy is not going to give more of himself, AOC is a rookie and has a higher ceiling, it is a necessity to go with Minshew when you have a guy who proved last season to be good. Also AOC is better for the ground attack because being a QB that worries defenses deep makes for a more efficient ground attack.
Calling aoc a backup is weird at this point. Unless you can predict the future or some kind of quarterback guru which i know wifi willie isnt, you cant call AOC a backup caliber qb this early in his career. I rather you just say "i dont like aoc" and leave it like that. And you didnt bring up the fact that davante adams said this team lacks rhythm, and which qb do the receivers have the most rhythm with? And saying switching qbs doesnt make a team block or run better is a moot point because the PANTHERS DID EXACTLY THAT and look like a playoff contending team.
the only good thing in this situation is we don see AP chanting raiderzzzzzzzzzzzzzz or acting weirdly when he sees raiders media team's camera anymore, like that corny run and hug into GM cuddle!
@@stevens6398 Jacobs didn't play the last what 5 games last year. Getsy needs to adjust and scrap the zone blocking scheme and bring back power Zamir White doesn't have the vision, agility or balance to run the zone scheme properly.
@@stevenrichardson4555 Zamir doesn't have the stuff to be good in any scheme. Most backs can run in both schemes, although obviously most backs have a preferred scheme they are better at than the other, but even in their non-preferred scheme, they aren't this bad. You need vision in any scheme, and Zamir doesn't have it.
The line would perform better in both phases with a pocket passer. With minshew, the d line could rush without giving up their run fits and in turn contain him. The style the panthers rushed minshew stopped the run and forced him to stay in the pocket. That style wouldn’t affect O’Connell as much, they’d have to speed rush him and run line games and in turn open up running lanes. The book is out on minshew. Rewatch the game and you’ll see exactly what I’m talking about
I only blame MARK DAVIS. How many key players and coaches are left from the 2021 playoff team? How much turnover in key players and coaches have happened since 2021? There’s your answer. It’s the owner.
The Panthers scored 10 points in their first game and 3 points in their second game. They scored 36 points against the Raiders. The PROBLEM seems to be the Raider DEFENSE, not the offense.
AP never said Minshew would be the starter for the year come on now bro‼️ he said the first quarter of the season cuz they thought he would give us a fast start and was more experienced and capable of changing plays and we haven’t seen nothing of that.
How is it minshew’s problem we have no run game, no O-Line (evident with no run game) and no defense that can compete with the worst team in the league. Dalton is not even close to elite yet we let him carve us up for 300+ yards, 3 TD’s and NO PICKS! That’s minshew’s fault? Minshew threw for 200+ yards in a one dimensional offense. What was he supposed to do? He could of had a bit more accuracy, but when you have to run and gun every play cuz you’re down 3 TD’s playing behind a terrible O-Line, do you really blame him for lacking some accuracy? What kind of basic scheme with a ton of unnecessary motion that didn’t trip up any defenders was that? Lot of problems with this staff and team, most of it is not minshew’s fault.
Defenses rush 4 at him without line games. Just straight ahead bull rushes for the most part while maintaining their gaps for run fits. The nfl knows that’s all you need to do to beat minshew is make him play from the pocket, give him no lane to escape and that will also shut down the run game. His play style is a chunk of the reason there is no run game. Defensive lines don’t need to truly pass rush him, they can just play the run and contain.
Disagree with everything Wi-Fi said. The players all know what type of coach AP is a no nonsense straight forward coach. We will see how they respond next week against the Browns.
Wifi I am surprised you are not reading in between the lines. Telasco is hamstringing AP. Telesco wanted Getsy, and wanted Minshew. AP been wanted AOC but Telasco keeps pulling rank. You were spot on with Mcdaniels, the same type of shenanigans are happening.
Getsy was trash in Chicago, AP was a fool to hire him. The GM passed on resigning Josh Jacobs despite leaving 30M in cap space on the table (Jacobs cost 6M). The GM failed to swing a trade to ensure he could draft a QB prospect. Telesco handicapped AP with two mid level back-up QB's as the teams only options coming into this season.
Gardner is not confident and is lucky by far to still be in the league. Try OC if not roll the dice on a pick. The raiders run game is Trash. Them boys light in the ass and can't push on them knees. Call a dog out the woods to be our back
All this goes back before these guys. Raiders have blown money, cut loose players who didn't get a chance, keep changing coaches, there's no continuity in the team, in this organization... Never gonna be the same, 2012 Rich Gannon days are over... There'll never be until they get someone in there who can steer the ship and keep it from slamming into the rocks!! But that's too see!!
I call that game Andy's Revenge , The Raiders had a chance to get Darton & as usual THEY GOOF IT UP!! Minew don't tackle, he doesn't play defense. Dalton carb that Raiders UP!!
I don't think AP making a change in the QB position is him saying that's what our number 1 problem is. If he made the change it's mainly because it would probably help the offense by 1% and the rest of the issues will take time to address
That doesn't mean that the quarterback can just not perform. When the coach makes a decision, let it go, the coach is responsible for the performance of the team. When it's time for you to ride the pine, you ride the pine! That's what Carr didn't understand, it is a coach's decision. It is a team sport, Gardner Minshow is the guy that has to earn the position. This is pro-level competition, not a daycare center. The coach is ultimately the one responsible, let him do his job. What, you get benched and get paid for doing nothing? Sounds like a fucking nightmare!
So many anomalies this weekend, the Jags, Texans, Bucs, and Dolphins got blown out by 20+ points. Adjust and move on to the next game. It's the NFL, period.
Get rid of Carr - is dominating now. Get rid of Jacob’s - is contributing to new team. Acquire Davante - throw to him 5 times a game on short routes. A basic football fan understands better decisions should be made
It's the offensive plays, which goes to the OC. I never said anything about hiring Getsy. He is a bad coach. Who hires a coach who has Terrible stats. Both McConnell and Minshew were great QB's last year. Raiders OL line blasted holes open, RB's last year use to run, at worst, maybe 3 yards, every now and then. You never worried when they had 3rd. and short last year, look at the highlights. This is all on the OC!
When the season starts and you have your staff, and things are lack-luster, then a change is necessary. Regardless, the HC has to motivate the team. We all know that the Raiders are not a playoff team. So change what you may and it could help to motivate the team into a change of culture (which AP started last season). Culture change takes time. AP is progressing the team. The season isn't a loss, yet. But reality says to push the players and coaches.
Bro, I’m gonna have to agree with AP on this one. I mean if you’re telling these guys what they need to do how to prepare and they show up just brushing it off like they’re about to have the win in hand. There’s not much you can do as a coach And from what I’ve seen from AP since he became the head coach, he will take the accountability when its his to take but when it’s anybody else’s, he’ll call them out as well and that’s why I like him as a coach he’s holding anybody responsible accountable whether it makes him look bad or not. He doesn’t give into the media bullshit and say this is what I think I should say bc this is what the media wants to hear. he’s more like this is exactly what happened and it is what it is and we’re gonna address that this week. so I’m behind with his decision to call out players bc they showed up to work but never clocked in
Man, that Raider's HC is just trying to deflect the blame for the lost so he will not get fired. Don't forget about that Car Dealer lawsuit he still needs to deal with and pay what those investors want.
I rewatched the game and Minshew sold out on a lot of those sacks and pressures and failed 3rd down conversions along with the 4 down conversion attempt. He had decent time. It’s time to start AOC.
As soon as they announced the QBs name was Minshew and not Cousins knew the season was going to suck, to see the playoffs hire Eric Bieniemy as HC and draft a QB
APs head coaching career is on the clock...and he knows it. If he gets fired he will never be a Raider again , ever. This is life and death for him in his mind IMO
Kinda reminds me when gruden got rid of Mack and complained about not getting pressure on the edge no shit. You can’t get rid of a star running back and not replace him.
I fell asleep in the first quarter of the game this past Sunday. I don’t think I’ve ever fell asleep during a Raider game. I hate Vegas…. Mark Davis a buffoon , I’ve been a fan for 16 years.
Feels like we’re forcing this push to be a playoff contender when we know this team and the vibes are just not it. Trade DA and Krosby and start the rebuild, quicker you start it the quicker we bounce back as a franchise (I.e. Dolphins pre Tua, Texans pre Stroud)
Definitely does seem like a desperation move, however I will say AOC does have a stronger arm. Maybe more shots down field? Were screwed either way Willie 😂
Timing matters. Ball velocity matters. Decisions matter. Turnover adverse playing is what we need. I wanted us to get a rb in round 3. We shouldve. Or made an offer to someone. Is McKinnon on a roster?
When all the rookie QB's got drafted before the Raiders pick, I knew right then and there it was going to be a long losing season of drama. And then they will lose Adams in the off-season.
Gardner is predictable...scramble to his right...D moves to their left..o line coming back from injury...takes time to develop continuity in run blocking and pass blocking...as for getsy he is who he is...At least AOC can throw the ball deep...throwing deep will open up lanes for the rb's. I believe Madd Maxx's injury knocked the wind out of everyone. They know it's tough to come back from an high ankle sprain and that there is a great chance he'll reaggrevate at any point from here on out.
The core of all the Raiders offensive success in the last three seasons was Josh Jacobs and they traded him. It doesn't matter who you put at QB if you don't have a run game.
While everyone was drooling after the Ravens win, I pointed out that the Running game still sucks, and no team can be successful being one dimensional!
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I dont think so. With getsy at OC this offence is never going anywhere and the defence clearly showing signs that theyre already fed up with carrying the team
WITH AOC12 WED B 3-0
@@realwifiwillie Getsy needs to learn how to utilize that Offense.
No, Aidan O'Connell also sucks and is a total bust. Aidan O'Connell is the whole entire reason why the Raiders didn't win super bowl 58 last season.
Absolutely not. Damn, I miss Gruden. At least he took some responsibility
The OC sucked in Chicago what makes everyone think he’s going to be good over here?
I liked all our changes except for that one. Getzy has to go, like right now. Otherwise, the offense will suck all year.
He was a leftover hire. He wasn't their first choice.
Lifelong bears fan here, he was ubiquitously hated here in Chicago. Don’t know why he got hired.
I don't think a soul on earth said he would be good with the Raiders 😂 thanks captain obvious. In other news, water is wet.
Minshew suck too
Ap has the right to be blunt, I actually like it. It’s a grown men sport, do your job or the boss will point it out
Exactly PULL the QB that was leading the NFL in Completion %
Good call
You should be the coach
Facts some of these kids don't understand that 🤔 Grown man talk.
@@bookwormdoe1522 it aint a threat, your getting paid to do a particular job, if you aint doing what is ask of or the level expected of, then your just a dead weight. Money can be spent better elsewhere, taking up roster space.
@@the_algorithm whats good with completion if it don't move the sticks? or turn into TD? end of the day, its about winning, it ain't about personal stats.
And when they point the blame on the coach that didn't earn the job🤔
No O line, no run game and a OC who cant call a game= no bueno
EXACTLY RIGHT
DATS RIGHT BRO
Yeah there are more issues than just the QB...smh my poor Raiders.
All that and the defense didn’t show up in this panthers game and even Carlson missed a kick it’s all bad
New Season, same old Shit.Nothing,but a F'n shit show.😏
No complaints. The players wanted Pierce. They have zero excuses.
And took advantage lol
@@wj00312 THE PLAYERS REALLY WANTED BISACHIA
@@BenjaminMendez-r1i pretty sure a few of them threatened to walk if they didn't retain Pierce.
@@wj00312 I DOUBT THAT
@@BenjaminMendez-r1i look it up if you don't believe me.
Willie has become the clickbait king
He didn’t say he was making a qb change… he said it’s not out of the question
RUclips is all about the clickbait with these influencers lately. Especially with sports, diddy and politics now 😅
APis starting O'Connell
@@marklepe12no he is not
I was at the game and Minshew is part of the problem.
Guys are running wide open and he does not throw to them. It happened about 80% of pass plays.
Ngl i hope your right n they make better decisions
Maybe minshew needed another "pep" talk from Maxx to get going. Crosby needs to make it a pregame ritual to put fingers at the QBs chest.
You can’t say that without knowing the progression.
Are you slow? He doesn’t have time to throw to the open receivers because his OL collapses in 3 seconds. You think AOC will do better being a statue in the pocket and not being able to scramble? Incoming 8 sacks next week.
He's to small and can't see over the offensive line like AOC
Does not matter if it is Minshew or Aiden if it is the same playcalls coming in from Luke Getsy......Getsy playcalling has been horrible.
THIS is the issue. Changing to AoC isn't going to change shit. Just leave Minshew in there and figure out the damn OL and make some better damn play calls!
Imho the issue is Getsy playcalling. If all you do is run and short throws it allows the defense to crowd the box cause they do not fear the deep ball. When you watched the Panthers defense they almost knew the plays called better than our guys did cause it got so predictable. Getsy didn't have a good offense in Chicago and had brought that with him.
We're dumbest team .
Your sentence confirms it lol
@@DavidHernandez-zc9ypThat's why he said it.
@@DavidHernandez-zc9yp😂
Flashbacks of Bill Callahan
Well that would make you dumb also 😭
AP made it clearthat after 4 weeks, there might be change... If things didn't go rigth! Did ya forget!!??
Stop with the clickbait. Pierce did not say that Aidan O'Connell is the starter now.
AOC!
He's our guy!
5 qbs since they sent CARR packing.
Say goodbye to this season.
FREE DAVANTE ADAMS !!!
You can't take 2 backup quarterbacks and try to make them a starter. The locker room is about to implode.
Gotta be able to run the ball. If they run in first and second down and get nowhere you’re gonna put your qb in a bad spot. Cleveland D is tough.
I think AOC is a starter. He’s one of those that if they get let go they’ll do good in that system.
The team realizes they don’t have an established starter at QB. They could change signal callers each week and the team wouldn’t blink.
You can put any qb back there, if you cant run the ball, then that means you cant throw it either.
@@bookwormdoe1522exactly.... You HAVE to be behind your QB, good and bad
Where is Josh Jacobs when we need him??? Oh yeah, Green Bay..... WHY!?!?! WHY!?!?! I seriously watched the video of Nancy Kerigan crying "Why!?!?!" After the gane yesterday...
Because coupon Tom doesn't believe in paying Rbs even though we are spending no money on the QB position
A lot of Raider fans wanted Jacobs gone and really thought White would easily replace him 🤦🏻♂️ I thought we should have paid him and upgraded our OLine
Behind our O line, even Barry Sanders would be screwed
The GM made that dumb move saying running back by committee. AP should’ve fought harder first Josh.
@@Artisofficial07 I agree! If we paid him from the beginning he'd be happy at home.
Recap: Mark Davis hires the worst GM in the AFC, Hires HC with zero NFL coaching experience let alone the offensive side at all, and hire a horrible OC with no real running back or QB. Yeah, playoffs for sure!
You’re right worst GM and OC plus he let Jacobs go and didn’t trade for Justin Fields who’s 3-0 in Pittsburgh.
That's not a Recap that's a Kneecap. It all starts at the top.
Unfortunately this is 100 percent accurate! No chance for us
I couldn't agree with you more. I was ok with them hiring A.P. cuz he's solid at hyping up the team and the team was 100% behind him but hiring a garbage gm and oc def fkd us
@@DarkPhoenix203Ct I’m not sure who’s guiding Mark Davis but the Raiders should scrap the GM like his father did. They pick the worst GM’s.
The QB is not the problem. They have no running game. Their defense is subpar besides Maxx Crosby. I doubt Aidan O’Connell will turn this team around
O line needs immediate attention!
Andy Dalton has entered the chat
@@xgengx7530 Andy Dalton is an upgrade, O’Connell is not
Minshew SUCKS bro Cmon
@@sodapop.21 are you kidding me? Oconnell has a much better arm than Minshew.
Bringing in AOC lets him get the experience he needs to improve. He only got a half year experience last year. If we are going to lose anyway, then let Aidan get the reps he needs to keep improving.
AOC should have been the 1st choice, I don’t believe minshew beat him for the position. AP probably went with the experience, bad choice
I really don't think Pierce wanted Minshew to start. He always said it's Aidan but I think the GM and OC had a meeting with him. I'd rather see AOC anyways so I ain't mad
You ride with Aidan. See if he makes progress and becomes something. If not we know we need a QB next draft. With Gardner we know no matter what we have to draft a qb. Problem is with Gardner we know what we got. With Aidan we don’t.
You think AOC will do better being a statue in the pocket and not being able to scramble? Incoming 8 sacks next week.
@@mycrazylife408shit he rolled out yesterday n threw a dot to Tucker n Tucker kept they ball 🥴 yea AOC almost threw a pick but so did dalton once or twice we dropped em 🥴 been saying start AOC minshew has been a back up all his career jags drafted Lawrence Philly had hurts colts drafted Richardson n my thing is if minshew was sooooooo good last year y didn’t he get resigned to the colts to be Richardson back up again oh yea maybe cus he’s asss 🥴
We should give AOC a chance. He’s probably not going to make the team go to the playoffs, but he can get better and improve over time. Minshew is not our future QB
More like incoming BS comments.@@mycrazylife408
AOC! AOC! AOC! Bet our running game gets better with AOC too
Let AOC do his thing and that it
If all else fails...Bring back Carr and Gruden to pair with Davante and draft a QB to develope for the future.
And we'll still suck
@@shannonlusk1500 No. Carr can throw for 300 and 3TD's any given Sunday with nobody like McDummy to hold him back and with this defense and Graham plus Davante Adams to throw to the Raiders are definitely a playoff team. The O-line needs a few upgrades and another RB with better vision and shiftiness then White. I think a combo of Mattison and Loebe would be better then giving White so many snaps to improve the current run game.
@@bennyrenaissance8549the Carr era is over just stop already 🤣😂🤣
@@yayarearaider4636 Carr is Ballin with the Saints and he can play at that level another 4-5 years. He just went up against the top D-line in the league but everyone can see that the Saints are legit with Carr.
Just because McDummy sabotaged Carr and the Raiders doesn't mean we can't pair Carr with Davante again and let them really cook.
Unless O'Connell and this team can really turn things around it's a good move to make while drafting a QB for the future to develop.
@@bookwormdoe1522 I agree with that.
But O'Connell is better under center because he can actually see over the line and see who's open from the pocket. Minshew can't do that and he needs to be in shotgun or be able to roll out with play action. The scheme is not good for him because of this.
The idea was to get off to a fast start in starting G Minshew. It has been a failure, blame the coaching staff. If your odds are the same with either QB because your team sux, start the younger guy with a higher upside. 😊
No O-Line, no LB Pass coverage underneath, DB's can't tackle , D-line can't stop the run. O-line can't run or pass block.
No running game.
Crappy gameplan.
Entire team quits once down by 14, both sides of ball.
This is a place where players and coaches careers come to die.
Said it after they appointed AP, they desperately need a proper HC, but coaches don't want to coach the Raiders, just ask Harbaugh so stuck with these absolute Numpties.
Aoc is the guy in Vegas he needs the job and will prove why he should be their starter aidan always finds a way to succeed
Pierce didn’t say shit about switching quarterback… WiFi making it up
Clickbatin'!
Still say he should’ve went AOC before signing Minshew
AOC SHOULD OF BEEN THE STARTER FROM THE BEGINNING ANYWAYS
This is what happens when you have an owner who is dumb enough to let the players choose a coach!🤦♂️
BYE BYE 17
I think AP is trying to save face by swapping QB's. But these are the pitfalls a new HC will have. Poor decision-making. Poor planning. Rash responses. He's barely got any skin in the game, and the honeymoon phase has passed. Now we will his true colors.
It’s panic mode for him
Yes, Getsy should be fired, but Getsy was the last kid picked. Kliff bailed, and rhey didn't want to continue to wait on other names.
If you fire him this quickly what coach in their right mind would want to be here???... No coach wants to play or coach in the spot where get fired in three games, lol.
That's not stability.... Give him a chance, y'all didn't like Patrick Graham initially either... Y'all hated him but he got better as time went on as the players started to UNDERSTAND what he was doing
I thought they also interviewed Hue Jackson as well who honestly could run an offense with less than stellar players
Since Minshew is Mr 3 and out, our defense was on the field way too often which wore them down over time.
I think Adam's told them to go with AOC remember what he said before the season
I never heard him say that the QB would be changed.
With the O Line, Nah. if they can't win the battle in the trenches, anyone behind that will not have big plays. No run play with the light weight of a RB we have.
Stupid scape goating.
Don’t need a qb. Well we need a qb, but he also just needs to be real and tell everyone we need a new OC and he failed with that hire.
I question whether Getsy was even hired by AP
The GM made that hire.
@@stevenrichardson4555the GM made that hire and let Jacobs go and didn’t go for Justin Fields.
Let’s be real the oc can work but he has to changed philosophy which is kinda on Ap because he wants a run first team abandon that and become a pass to run team and everything will fix itself. We also didn’t play powers till the 3rd which was odd because he probably our best lineman. Outside of kolton.
Both AP and GM hire Getsy. AP boosted about how the bears whooped our arses and how proud he was to have him with us.
And if he wasn’t involved in hiring his OC, then that proves my point further about it falling on him.
The problem is not the 1/4backs; it the coaches, they don't know how to coach to win games, scared of the goal line. Coach will be fired before half the season is over as I predicted last year while everyone was thrilled with his appointment. Raiders are going no where.
Silly question, I ask you Andy Dalton made a difference for Carolina yesterday? there's your answer, AOC is better on the court playing real games than Gardner Minshew, simply because he's bigger in stature.
AOC is a QB with more arm and that worries defenses, he is a less rushing QB, he knows how to read defenses better and dares to do more things than Gardner Minshew, we can lose to AOC but we already saw what Gardner Minshew's ceiling is, the guy is not going to give more of himself, AOC is a rookie and has a higher ceiling, it is a necessity to go with Minshew when you have a guy who proved last season to be good. Also AOC is better for the ground attack because being a QB that worries defenses deep makes for a more efficient ground attack.
when you have 2 guys starting at QB, you dont have 1 legit starting QB.
If DC doesn't get HIS shit straight in New Orleans he might become available!
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Calling aoc a backup is weird at this point. Unless you can predict the future or some kind of quarterback guru which i know wifi willie isnt, you cant call AOC a backup caliber qb this early in his career. I rather you just say "i dont like aoc" and leave it like that. And you didnt bring up the fact that davante adams said this team lacks rhythm, and which qb do the receivers have the most rhythm with? And saying switching qbs doesnt make a team block or run better is a moot point because the PANTHERS DID EXACTLY THAT and look like a playoff contending team.
Exactly, He just doesnt like AOC & never has. I beleive 100% AOC can play just as good as Jared Goff.
Carr was a great Quarterback, every raider fan knows that shit, it’s always been the defense the secondary can’t stop shit. Today is proof again
AP got the job with AOC ended with AOC….
the only good thing in this situation is we don see AP chanting raiderzzzzzzzzzzzzzz or acting weirdly when he sees raiders media team's camera anymore, like that corny run and hug into GM cuddle!
Sorry but Aiden isn't winning that game in Baltimore. It's the run game not Gardner.
Gardner checks down to much. We were able to run the ball with AOC last year just saying.
@@stevenrichardson4555 Josh Jacobs is gone.
@@stevens6398 Jacobs didn't play the last what 5 games last year. Getsy needs to adjust and scrap the zone blocking scheme and bring back power Zamir White doesn't have the vision, agility or balance to run the zone scheme properly.
@@stevenrichardson4555 Zamir doesn't have the stuff to be good in any scheme. Most backs can run in both schemes, although obviously most backs have a preferred scheme they are better at than the other, but even in their non-preferred scheme, they aren't this bad. You need vision in any scheme, and Zamir doesn't have it.
I hate to say this, but from the outside looking in at the Raiders, Marc Davis is a cancer of an owner. Nothing will change until he sells or croaks.
We quite possibly could be the worst team in the NFL. O line needs to be bolstered. Any decent QB or RB will suffer behind this line.
The line would perform better in both phases with a pocket passer. With minshew, the d line could rush without giving up their run fits and in turn contain him. The style the panthers rushed minshew stopped the run and forced him to stay in the pocket. That style wouldn’t affect O’Connell as much, they’d have to speed rush him and run line games and in turn open up running lanes. The book is out on minshew. Rewatch the game and you’ll see exactly what I’m talking about
What kind of a coach throws the players under the bus. Pierce sucks!
He's too emotional 😢 Needs to get his act together 😊
I only blame MARK DAVIS. How many key players and coaches are left from the 2021 playoff team? How much turnover in key players and coaches have happened since 2021? There’s your answer. It’s the owner.
The Panthers scored 10 points in their first game and 3 points in their second game. They scored 36 points against the Raiders. The PROBLEM seems to be the Raider DEFENSE, not the offense.
AP never said Minshew would be the starter for the year come on now bro‼️ he said the first quarter of the season cuz they thought he would give us a fast start and was more experienced and capable of changing plays and we haven’t seen nothing of that.
How is it minshew’s problem we have no run game, no O-Line (evident with no run game) and no defense that can compete with the worst team in the league. Dalton is not even close to elite yet we let him carve us up for 300+ yards, 3 TD’s and NO PICKS! That’s minshew’s fault? Minshew threw for 200+ yards in a one dimensional offense. What was he supposed to do? He could of had a bit more accuracy, but when you have to run and gun every play cuz you’re down 3 TD’s playing behind a terrible O-Line, do you really blame him for lacking some accuracy? What kind of basic scheme with a ton of unnecessary motion that didn’t trip up any defenders was that? Lot of problems with this staff and team, most of it is not minshew’s fault.
Defenses rush 4 at him without line games. Just straight ahead bull rushes for the most part while maintaining their gaps for run fits. The nfl knows that’s all you need to do to beat minshew is make him play from the pocket, give him no lane to escape and that will also shut down the run game. His play style is a chunk of the reason there is no run game. Defensive lines don’t need to truly pass rush him, they can just play the run and contain.
Disagree with everything Wi-Fi said. The players all know what type of coach AP is a no nonsense straight forward coach. We will see how they respond next week against the Browns.
The change needs to be made with GETSY!! GET RID OF HIM MARK!!
Could we see Gruden make his come back by October
I don't think so, gruden breaks down games on his youtube channel and avoids the raiders games lol
THE RAIDERS HAVE THE WORST QUATERBACKS GROUP IN THE NFL WHAT DO YOU EXPECT TO HAPPEN? THE WORST OFFENSIVE LINE IS THE WORST IN THE NFL.
Siempre creí que Derek Carr no era el problema ni mucho menos los anteriores coach’s este equipo no tiene espíritu para competir
Wifi I am surprised you are not reading in between the lines. Telasco is hamstringing AP. Telesco wanted Getsy, and wanted Minshew. AP been wanted AOC but Telasco keeps pulling rank. You were spot on with Mcdaniels, the same type of shenanigans are happening.
Getsy was trash in Chicago, AP was a fool to hire him. The GM passed on resigning Josh Jacobs despite leaving 30M in cap space on the table (Jacobs cost 6M). The GM failed to swing a trade to ensure he could draft a QB prospect. Telesco handicapped AP with two mid level back-up QB's as the teams only options coming into this season.
Gardner is not confident and is lucky by far to still be in the league. Try OC if not roll the dice on a pick. The raiders run game is Trash. Them boys light in the ass and can't push on them knees. Call a dog out the woods to be our back
This video didn’t age well 😂
All this goes back before these guys. Raiders have blown money, cut loose players who didn't get a chance, keep changing coaches, there's no continuity in the team, in this organization... Never gonna be the same, 2012 Rich Gannon days are over... There'll never be until they get someone in there who can steer the ship and keep it from slamming into the rocks!! But that's too see!!
I think jack jones was trying to punch the ball out since we desperately needed a turnover
I hope he better
I call that game Andy's Revenge , The Raiders had a chance to get Darton & as usual THEY GOOF IT UP!! Minew don't tackle, he doesn't play defense. Dalton carb that Raiders UP!!
I dead this, how many seasons will we go through where we keep throwing QB’s in hoping something will stick.
I don't think AP making a change in the QB position is him saying that's what our number 1 problem is. If he made the change it's mainly because it would probably help the offense by 1% and the rest of the issues will take time to address
That doesn't mean that the quarterback can just not perform. When the coach makes a decision, let it go, the coach is responsible for the performance of the team. When it's time for you to ride the pine, you ride the pine! That's what Carr didn't understand, it is a coach's decision. It is a team sport, Gardner Minshow is the guy that has to earn the position. This is pro-level competition, not a daycare center. The coach is ultimately the one responsible, let him do his job. What, you get benched and get paid for doing nothing? Sounds like a fucking nightmare!
This is all cover for the coaching disaster, no run game, no o-line. Minshew is scape goat. Go, Raiders !
So many anomalies this weekend, the Jags, Texans, Bucs, and Dolphins got blown out by 20+ points. Adjust and move on to the next game. It's the NFL, period.
Can you guys bring back gruden/Carr and get rid of Antonio and mid-shew
What exactly would that solve in a carr fan but behind this line he proven he struggles behind a stuggling o line
@@x46and2xnot really Carr consistently had the Raiders offense in the top half of the nfl. Defense was always the issue
Get rid of Carr - is dominating now. Get rid of Jacob’s - is contributing to new team. Acquire Davante - throw to him 5 times a game on short routes. A basic football fan understands better decisions should be made
Where did yall hearing this at, i literally just seen a report that they aren't making a change
It's the offensive plays, which goes to the OC. I never said anything about hiring Getsy. He is a bad coach. Who hires a coach who has Terrible stats. Both McConnell and Minshew were great QB's last year. Raiders OL line blasted holes open, RB's last year use to run, at worst, maybe 3 yards, every now and then. You never worried when they had 3rd. and short last year, look at the highlights. This is all on the OC!
When the season starts and you have your staff, and things are lack-luster, then a change is necessary. Regardless, the HC has to motivate the team. We all know that the Raiders are not a playoff team. So change what you may and it could help to motivate the team into a change of culture (which AP started last season). Culture change takes time. AP is progressing the team. The season isn't a loss, yet. But reality says to push the players and coaches.
Bro, I’m gonna have to agree with AP on this one. I mean if you’re telling these guys what they need to do how to prepare and they show up just brushing it off like they’re about to have the win in hand. There’s not much you can do as a coach And from what I’ve seen from AP since he became the head coach, he will take the accountability when its his to take but when it’s anybody else’s, he’ll call them out as well and that’s why I like him as a coach he’s holding anybody responsible accountable whether it makes him look bad or not. He doesn’t give into the media bullshit and say this is what I think I should say bc this is what the media wants to hear. he’s more like this is exactly what happened and it is what it is and we’re gonna address that this week. so I’m behind with his decision to call out players bc they showed up to work but never clocked in
Man, that Raider's HC is just trying to deflect the blame for the lost so he will not get fired. Don't forget about that Car Dealer lawsuit he still needs to deal with and pay what those investors want.
I rewatched the game and Minshew sold out on a lot of those sacks and pressures and failed 3rd down conversions along with the 4 down conversion attempt. He had decent time. It’s time to start AOC.
I like how i see comments saying “it’s not the qb problem” but we were saying put in AOC!!
Why do people think of Patrick Graham as some type of DC guru? The guy literally hasn't had a single winning season as a DC in his 6th season!
As soon as they announced the QBs name was Minshew and not Cousins knew the season was going to suck, to see the playoffs hire Eric Bieniemy as HC and draft a QB
APs head coaching career is on the clock...and he knows it. If he gets fired he will never be a Raider again , ever. This is life and death for him in his mind IMO
Kinda reminds me when gruden got rid of Mack and complained about not getting pressure on the edge no shit. You can’t get rid of a star running back and not replace him.
Do he understand that that "spark" came in garbage time when the Panthers were playing 15 yards off? 😂
I threw all of my raiders jerseys hats and all things raiders in a huge fire 🔥 pit in my backyard and I just ordered my 13 Mahomes jersey today
I fell asleep in the first quarter of the game this past Sunday.
I don’t think I’ve ever fell asleep during a Raider game.
I hate Vegas…. Mark Davis a buffoon , I’ve been a fan for 16 years.
LOSERS...no crying, no blaming . Try putting the cigar down and get to practicing. And game planning not running the ball. RN4L
Do something.
Feels like we’re forcing this push to be a playoff contender when we know this team and the vibes are just not it. Trade DA and Krosby and start the rebuild, quicker you start it the quicker we bounce back as a franchise (I.e. Dolphins pre Tua, Texans pre Stroud)
Definitely does seem like a desperation move, however I will say AOC does have a stronger arm. Maybe more shots down field? Were screwed either way Willie 😂
We have to replace the OC first. Then figure out the QB.
I think it starts at the top for all this:
1. Mark Davis
2. Antonio Pierce
Timing matters. Ball velocity matters. Decisions matter. Turnover adverse playing is what we need. I wanted us to get a rb in round 3. We shouldve. Or made an offer to someone. Is McKinnon on a roster?
When all the rookie QB's got drafted before the Raiders pick, I knew right then and there it was going to be a long losing season of drama. And then they will lose Adams in the off-season.
Watching that dime from Dalton to Thielen made me feel like I was 24 again
Gardner is predictable...scramble to his right...D moves to their left..o line coming back from injury...takes time to develop continuity in run blocking and pass blocking...as for getsy he is who he is...At least AOC can throw the ball deep...throwing deep will open up lanes for the rb's.
I believe Madd Maxx's injury knocked the wind out of everyone. They know it's tough to come back from an high ankle sprain and that there is a great chance he'll reaggrevate at any point from here on out.
The core of all the Raiders offensive success in the last three seasons was Josh Jacobs and they traded him. It doesn't matter who you put at QB if you don't have a run game.
Doesn’t matter who you put out there. The offense is plain ol BAD! Pierce is becoming overwhelmed with the coach.
While everyone was drooling after the Ravens win, I pointed out that the Running game still sucks, and no team can be successful being one dimensional!