I’m excited the fan holder worked out well! If you can fit one they are pretty hard to beat. I think we filled a good middle ground for the DIY guys with the fan holder.
MB W211 Bosch fan is PWM controlled by ECU, my case MaxxECU. It's supposed to be 600w. I also have a smaller core rad and so far did overheat. So now hopefully with the w211 fan it should be better.
Long time watcher, semi-first time commenter. That segment at 12:00 really hit me at the right time haha. I'm still up against some size constraints but I do want to move towards a more modern/efficient fan and shroud setup versus what I'm dealing with. Appreciate you sharing this info with the world and look forward to seeing more of this and the other projects.
I also had the same hang-up about running some Delta-PAG stuff - Excellent bits kit don't get me wrong, but if I'm doing an event or am just on a road trip I would always be worried about replacement. Being able to use off the shelf products and more rapidly get replacements is a big plus - It's definitely on my radar and I will strongly consider the silverado fan and mount for future use. Need to settle on a core and then find someone to make a shroud for it.
I'd paint the air intake so it isn't so obvious! I used snow performance water/meth kit and got over 100 hp at the wheels on the dyno. Good luck, and thank you for the video.
I dig that intake scoop! It takes a little bit away from your sleeper vibe, but cleans up the engine bay and gives a subtle race car vibe without being over the top
Another thing you can do to improve radiator efficiency is to seal the grille opening to the radiator so no air flowing through the grille can go around the radiator.
Its always cool to see the ingenuity, the intake setup looks awesome! One thing I wonder, have you considered trying any other converters? It seems like there is some performance to be gained there.
If you want to maintain the stealth appearance from the front painting the inside of the scoop and lower part of the intercooler would help them disappear at first glance.
Dude, I love this build. I remember seeing you at Sick Summer. You might remember me. I was one of the VW beetles competing. I like the idea of being different and the 4.2 is exactly that. I also run Snake Eater injectors 😎
Kilkare is my old home track. So happy to see it's still alive. Those snooties in the Beavercreek \ Xenia area will have it shut down before its all said and done.
Calvin, have you thought about putting come race louvers into the hood? Their channel on RUclips (race louvers) shows their products. Will allow you to flow a lot more air across those heat exchangers. You might also consider putting some flaps into that fan shroud you made so more air can flow through at speed. Love all your projects. Great stuff.
Looks good calvin. The silverado fans really are no joke. One small suggestion, add some rubber flappers on the pass side of the fan shroud. Other than that, youre fab work is absolutely killer. Those inlet temps are looking frosty compared to what they were before!
Exactly!! Twin aluminum travel limited flappers will work too. Using the flappers , if speed induced air flow exceeds the fans ability, The intercooler will function better.
I will have to do that. Honestly I've never had a car that has the tell tale overheating when going down the highway, so I've never tried the flappers, but it's probably a good idea
@Calvin-Nelson came here to say the same about the flappers. Even if you don't have cruising speed overheat issues, which is the main reason for these, It's still a good idea to Aid in air flow through the cooler and the engine compartment. While not pretty, you may also want to consider some insulation in the front of the intake.
I see you feathering that pedal welding it out I see you dawg I do the same thing to keep my metal temps stable while I add wire. This boy got moves lol
Great work. Your inlet makes you think and visualize in 3D. Love the spoiler. I’m going to look into that cooling fan for some of our projects. And fantastic IATs!!
Great job with the atlas engine platform. Looks like you are still way high duty cycle on your injectors. But looks like your pre turbo air is much better and your IATS are much better also. Methanol is nice and had it's benefits but im not so sure it's really for you in this application. Best of luck either way and love the builds
Big airflow through the radiator is the fix, 100%. Those ebay style fans might cool a riding lawnmower but not a car. I have an old explorer project thats all about suspension but bone stock motor that i drive hard. Went from chronic overheating with the biggest ebay fan i could find to perfectly cool going back to stock fan. Yes it was a self inflicted wound. But a great learning opportunity.
Just like the old hoonagin video , i wanna see a newer video of you givin' one of these engines the full beans and letting it eat. i wanna hear all 6 cyl. screaming! = )
Maybe add some screen over the openings for the intercooler to keep rocks from hitting it. Also I noticed your injector duty cycle is almost maxed out.
Calvin: I bought this chin spoiler to hide the intercooler and change pipe. Then proceeds to cut a giant hole in the middle and make an air intake, lol
I learned a lot talking to the guys at ron davis. I did end up buying a nice rad and fan setup from them but before that they gave me a lot of info. 1 thing that worked for me was sealing all the stack of coolers together so the air didnt stack up at IC and then go AROUND the condensor and radiator. Also the fan will tend to draw stagnant air through rad rather than cooler outside air if its trying to pull through a cooler stack up. My 6.0 turbo LS starion had always ran pretty hot until I did all this.
Hey Calvin absolutely love the video I'm always rooting for you and your dad you are my underdogs and you guys do it all from A to Z I think the new mods turned out awesome love what you do brother❤
@@Calvin-Nelson I was referring to the Delta PAG fans. I bought a dual 11" inch fan shroud assembly. Each fan moved about 1100 CFM. Ive upgraded one side to a 12" "extreme" fan which flows about 1600 cfm. I am putting the AC unit back in my truck and was concerned that I'd have too much of a restriction up front. The 12" brushless fans from Delta flow about 2,000 CFM each. They are thin, relatively light, and they don't draw too many amps. 4,000 cfm or so versus my current 2700 cfm is a big improvement. This product gives me options. Thanks. Keep up the great work
I just watched a video on another channel about setting up a cooling system. It featured a tech from Derale in it. You want fans pulling thru 75% of the rad cooling surface, and as much airflow as you can get thru the fans. That particular setup had two 2K cfm fans attached to it with a custom shroud. Looks like you have all that met or damn close.
I might not notice the intercooler peeking out. But that ram air looks race as hell. Nice touch on a sleeper wagon though. Ever thought about more factory looking wheels?
I used to have steel wheels on it. I had a damper fly off the LS I used to have in the car and it ruined one of the wheels, so I changed out to aftermarket wheels.
18:25 I’m sorry I forgot your real name. But nalvac I’m a huge fan would like to see you put more sleeper mods. I am curious of you installing a water injector in front of the throttle body I’ve seen a utuber doing it and was wondering if you would look into forums; google; or videos to see if it would be something that would be helpful. I am a sincerely a fanatic along time ago with the 4200 build and I know you have more supprizes with this Please please please 🙏 I like and love the content Your awsome brother Wish to meet the the car in the near future!
Looking good! I'm happy to see someone make a real effort to get those intake temps down! It all matters! Does the intercooler have ducting on the sides?
@Calvin-Nelson fair enough. I'm over in Germany and they aren't that expensive here. About 1k. The Power to $ ratio goes through the roof when you have to import everything. Maybe a shoot out with other people's cars. 4200 vs RB vs 2JZ vs OM606 vs AMC i6. For instance. Great content. Thank you for all your efforts. I don't miss a video.
How about a little black paint on the intake so the "hole" isn't as apparent? Not as noticeable as all the "sick week" stickers all over the windshield but "every little bit helps"?
Might as well cut the bumper bottom/middle to match the black air damn and make a bigger square ⬜ to match intercooler Leave the topp/middle part of the bumper there
Hello teacher, since I discovered your channel I have learned a lot and I also like the engineering and performance of these engines a lot and they are quite interesting. Thanks to you, I was motivated and I have added a supercharger to my hummer that I bought with the smallest one in the family, Atlas 2.8. It really moves her very well but in this you always want more and more lol, but now I'm stuck with the ecm melody, I already extracted the bin with pcm hammer, but my pcm titanium doesn't read it, winols is too advanced for me and I don't have hp tunner, what advice can you give me, I'll keep an eye on it, thank you very much advance master
If it was mine, I would get a HP tuners. I'm not 100% that will get you where you need to go though. I've not messed with the 2.8 yet. I would suggest pulling a tune file down from the tune repository on HP tuners website and see if you can get access to what you need to change.
Yes. And 4 cylinder stuff too. Time is the challenge. We both work full time. We have a major non car project going on. And Part development. There is a bunch of 4200 stuff coming.. the Mustang...some customer work....the Norstar gets finished...then 2 major 4200 projects...then the 4 and 5 stuff. The volume will increase after I retire in 2 years...but for now we are trying to build the base for the channel
I’m excited the fan holder worked out well! If you can fit one they are pretty hard to beat. I think we filled a good middle ground for the DIY guys with the fan holder.
For sure. The OEM grade quality control is a huge advantage too.
What diameter are those fans?
@@travtech1 15” fan and the holder is 16.25”
MB W211 Bosch fan is PWM controlled by ECU, my case MaxxECU. It's supposed to be 600w. I also have a smaller core rad and so far did overheat. So now hopefully with the w211 fan it should be better.
You should blackout the part of the cooler and scoop that you can see
Long time watcher, semi-first time commenter. That segment at 12:00 really hit me at the right time haha. I'm still up against some size constraints but I do want to move towards a more modern/efficient fan and shroud setup versus what I'm dealing with. Appreciate you sharing this info with the world and look forward to seeing more of this and the other projects.
I also had the same hang-up about running some Delta-PAG stuff - Excellent bits kit don't get me wrong, but if I'm doing an event or am just on a road trip I would always be worried about replacement. Being able to use off the shelf products and more rapidly get replacements is a big plus - It's definitely on my radar and I will strongly consider the silverado fan and mount for future use. Need to settle on a core and then find someone to make a shroud for it.
You can never go wrong with "In the Hall of the Mountain King"... Nice welding. too☺
Excellent content as always. If it were me I would paint the air intake flat black for more stealthyness.
The coolest Fairmont wagon in the country. Nice work on the intake Calvin, this car is going to haul the mail at the strip.
I'd paint the air intake so it isn't so obvious! I used snow performance water/meth kit and got over 100 hp at the wheels on the dyno. Good luck, and thank you for the video.
thanks for sharing the tip about that electric fan.
I dig that intake scoop! It takes a little bit away from your sleeper vibe, but cleans up the engine bay and gives a subtle race car vibe without being over the top
I was thinking he could paint the intercooler and the intake aluminum black in the front. But it looks too good to hide
Great work per usual . I love all the data you’re able to see . Looks like those comp Inlet temps dropped in the 90s during a pull that’s awesome.
Another thing you can do to improve radiator efficiency is to seal the grille opening to the radiator so no air flowing through the grille can go around the radiator.
Yep
Paint the intake scoop black and add a black screen on the spoiler for more sleeper stealth.
I'm kind of a fan of it just the way it sits.
I so want you all to prosper in this adventure. Be well
Looks great.
If you daily drive that thing you might want to add a wet weather flap to the intake so you don't vacuum up a puddle.
Your CAI is so sick!!! I want one. Thanks for the inspiration, keep it up your awesome
Its always cool to see the ingenuity, the intake setup looks awesome! One thing I wonder, have you considered trying any other converters? It seems like there is some performance to be gained there.
I've had it tightened twice. I think it's doing an excellent job of keeping the engine in its power band.
Lower spoiler/valance is awesome!
Intake sweet too
If you want to maintain the stealth appearance from the front painting the inside of the scoop and lower part of the intercooler would help them disappear at first glance.
Yeah. I like it the way it is
Dude, I love this build. I remember seeing you at Sick Summer. You might remember me. I was one of the VW beetles competing. I like the idea of being different and the 4.2 is exactly that. I also run Snake Eater injectors 😎
Kilkare is my old home track. So happy to see it's still alive. Those snooties in the Beavercreek \ Xenia area will have it shut down before its all said and done.
I just started watching and I love the Northstar and the Straight six builds!
Calvin, have you thought about putting come race louvers into the hood? Their channel on RUclips (race louvers) shows their products. Will allow you to flow a lot more air across those heat exchangers. You might also consider putting some flaps into that fan shroud you made so more air can flow through at speed. Love all your projects. Great stuff.
I am not planning on it. I like my factory hood.
“I don’t like this charge pipe hanging out, not sleeper enough”… dude puts in a sick custom fabricated intake port on a chin spoiler. Perfect
Looks good calvin. The silverado fans really are no joke. One small suggestion, add some rubber flappers on the pass side of the fan shroud. Other than that, youre fab work is absolutely killer. Those inlet temps are looking frosty compared to what they were before!
Exactly!! Twin aluminum travel limited flappers will work too. Using the flappers , if speed induced air flow exceeds the fans ability, The intercooler will function better.
I will have to do that. Honestly I've never had a car that has the tell tale overheating when going down the highway, so I've never tried the flappers, but it's probably a good idea
@Calvin-Nelson came here to say the same about the flappers.
Even if you don't have cruising speed overheat issues, which is the main reason for these, It's still a good idea to Aid in air flow through the cooler and the engine compartment.
While not pretty, you may also want to consider some insulation in the front of the intake.
I was just going to mention the flaps. Should help with cooling at highways speeds.
Off topic, but what tuning platform are you using on this Calvin?
I see you feathering that pedal welding it out I see you dawg I do the same thing to keep my metal temps stable while I add wire. This boy got moves lol
Yep. Thin metal tricks.
Great work. Your inlet makes you think and visualize in 3D. Love the spoiler. I’m going to look into that cooling fan for some of our projects. And fantastic IATs!!
Air scoop and box look killer 👍
Great job with the atlas engine platform. Looks like you are still way high duty cycle on your injectors. But looks like your pre turbo air is much better and your IATS are much better also. Methanol is nice and had it's benefits but im not so sure it's really for you in this application. Best of luck either way and love the builds
Yeah. It's pretty rich at the moment, so I still need to take some puleswidth out of it. That's what the methanol is for anyways.
Love it I need to do that on my car
Man that air intake looks clean nice work.
Great upgrades, looks like the intake temp and coolant temp are much cooler
Great work! Thank you for the videos!
Big airflow through the radiator is the fix, 100%. Those ebay style fans might cool a riding lawnmower but not a car. I have an old explorer project thats all about suspension but bone stock motor that i drive hard. Went from chronic overheating with the biggest ebay fan i could find to perfectly cool going back to stock fan. Yes it was a self inflicted wound. But a great learning opportunity.
That intake turned out great 👍
Just like the old hoonagin video , i wanna see a newer video of you givin' one of these engines the full beans and letting it eat. i wanna hear all 6 cyl. screaming! = )
Maybe add some screen over the openings for the intercooler to keep rocks from hitting it. Also I noticed your injector duty cycle is almost maxed out.
The older metal window screen works killer. Although, I don't know if it's available for purchase anymore.
Yeah. It's rich. Need to back some puleswidth out of it. I plan to make up the difference with methanol.
That fan is sweet for sure, pos-neg-pwm and full control. I like it.
Yeah. Super simple to wire too
Calvin: I bought this chin spoiler to hide the intercooler and change pipe.
Then proceeds to cut a giant hole in the middle and make an air intake, lol
Oops
@@Calvin-Nelson that said, it should make the car work better👍
Everything turned out amazing as usual.
I learned a lot talking to the guys at ron davis. I did end up buying a nice rad and fan setup from them but before that they gave me a lot of info. 1 thing that worked for me was sealing all the stack of coolers together so the air didnt stack up at IC and then go AROUND the condensor and radiator. Also the fan will tend to draw stagnant air through rad rather than cooler outside air if its trying to pull through a cooler stack up. My 6.0 turbo LS starion had always ran pretty hot until I did all this.
Hey Calvin absolutely love the video I'm always rooting for you and your dad you are my underdogs and you guys do it all from A to Z I think the new mods turned out awesome love what you do brother❤
Very nice work
It’s awesome watching you come up with innovative solutions for this combination! Can’t wait to see what you do next 😊
The scoop looks killer😊
Thanks for the tip! Delta fans move a TON of air without a ton of amps
The other nice thing about the Silverado fans is they are available at the auto parts store.
@@Calvin-Nelson I was referring to the Delta PAG fans. I bought a dual 11" inch fan shroud assembly. Each fan moved about 1100 CFM. Ive upgraded one side to a 12" "extreme" fan which flows about 1600 cfm. I am putting the AC unit back in my truck and was concerned that I'd have too much of a restriction up front. The 12" brushless fans from Delta flow about 2,000 CFM each. They are thin, relatively light, and they don't draw too many amps. 4,000 cfm or so versus my current 2700 cfm is a big improvement. This product gives me options. Thanks. Keep up the great work
guess that's why those stock fans move like 10k cfm LOL
Nicely done!
That ram air intake is bad ass
I just watched a video on another channel about setting up a cooling system. It featured a tech from Derale in it.
You want fans pulling thru 75% of the rad cooling surface, and as much airflow as you can get thru the fans. That particular setup had two 2K cfm fans attached to it with a custom shroud.
Looks like you have all that met or damn close.
Good to know
Yeah, s10's are super narrow. I like your solution!!
Also, that air intake turned out Sick!!
I might not notice the intercooler peeking out. But that ram air looks race as hell. Nice touch on a sleeper wagon though. Ever thought about more factory looking wheels?
I used to have steel wheels on it. I had a damper fly off the LS I used to have in the car and it ruined one of the wheels, so I changed out to aftermarket wheels.
Sick!!!
I don't know much about engines. But thankyou for breathing life into these Atlas's.
Turbo street cars benefit from intercooler ducting. Have you tested it on your cars?
Love the content
You do nice work
This feels like the days of watching the 2jz be developed
Got any spare inputs? I would be interested in seeing MAP pre turbo.
I have a few, but I'm ready to go to the track
@@Calvin-Nelson this more than likely will not be the last track outing.
Mr.Calvin are you ever going to build another set up (motor/ super charger) like you used in the studabaker?I think that was a awesome setup
Possibly. I'd probably do things a little different next time around.
Nice cold air scoop, will you painted black to look more stealthier?
I like it the way that it is.
I am a FAN of this! LOL 😛
18:25 I’m sorry I forgot your real name. But nalvac I’m a huge fan would like to see you put more sleeper mods. I am curious of you installing a water injector in front of the throttle body I’ve seen a utuber doing it and was wondering if you would look into forums; google; or videos to see if it would be something that would be helpful. I am a sincerely a fanatic along time ago with the 4200 build and I know you have more supprizes with this
Please please please
🙏 I like and love the content
Your awsome brother
Wish to meet the the car in the near future!
Nivlac spelled backwards is Calvin. Just sayin'
it sounds so GOOD!!!
Looking good! I'm happy to see someone make a real effort to get those intake temps down! It all matters! Does the intercooler have ducting on the sides?
I BELIEVE CJ THAT YOU HAVE THE SKILLS FOR THIS. 🎉🎉🤔🙏💪🔧😎✅
Looks great. Is there anything you can’t do lol
Paint and body. Ugh. No thanks.
@@Calvin-Nelson lol ADHD keeps from paint and body also. I wish I had an atlas in my wife’s 49 Plymouth.
Very nice! 👍
Man that car is awesome
All of your skills : fab , build , tune, diagnosis are just amazing!
Song is hall of the mountain king right?
Thanks. Yes it is.
Have you ever thought about doing an OM606?
I have. They're too expensive based on what I've seen.
@Calvin-Nelson fair enough. I'm over in Germany and they aren't that expensive here. About 1k. The Power to $ ratio goes through the roof when you have to import everything.
Maybe a shoot out with other people's cars. 4200 vs RB vs 2JZ vs OM606 vs AMC i6. For instance. Great content. Thank you for all your efforts. I don't miss a video.
Is there a standalone controller available for the Silverado fans?
Not that I'm aware. It's extremely simple, so not hard to wire to your ECU.
Might swap my rx8 with one of these😂
How about a little black paint on the intake so the "hole" isn't as apparent? Not as noticeable as all the "sick week" stickers all over the windshield but "every little bit helps"?
Honestly I kind of dig it the way that it is.
I’d love to see data logs of a bi directional pressure sensor in the air box
Sooo sick!
1:29 you're going to have to do a bit more than hiding the intercooler and charge pipe, those rims and wheels are a dead giveaway.
Nah. You right.
Telemetry FTW
Sweet!
The sound cut out when you tried to say the Studebaker was stolen from you and I replayed it multiple times...
Yeah. I noticed that. Idk. My editor just rendered it that way, and I didn't feel like spending an hour to fix it.
You're a very talented guy but every time I watch a video I think about how those pricks stole your car. Keep up the good work
Yeah. It's been painful, but all we can do is move forward.
Oh hello there! 👋
paint the intake scoop at the bumper black... to go with the sleeper look
What all can you do to the motor without turbo charging it?
Im mad i just junck yarded my truck and I wish I gave it to you!
Well take everyone we can get...tell your friends
Might as well cut the bumper bottom/middle to match the black air damn and make a bigger square ⬜ to match intercooler
Leave the topp/middle part of the bumper there
Wait. Is that 6 channel egt?
Yes
Nice
👍
Hello teacher, since I discovered your channel I have learned a lot and I also like the engineering and performance of these engines a lot and they are quite interesting. Thanks to you, I was motivated and I have added a supercharger to my hummer that I bought with the smallest one in the family, Atlas 2.8. It really moves her very well but in this you always want more and more lol, but now I'm stuck with the ecm melody, I already extracted the bin with pcm hammer, but my pcm titanium doesn't read it, winols is too advanced for me and I don't have hp tunner, what advice can you give me, I'll keep an eye on it, thank you very much advance master
If it was mine, I would get a HP tuners. I'm not 100% that will get you where you need to go though. I've not messed with the 2.8 yet. I would suggest pulling a tune file down from the tune repository on HP tuners website and see if you can get access to what you need to change.
@@Calvin-Nelson Thanks for your response and suggestion, I'll try it.
I love this car
Why cover the rest of the radiator? It's a dead end for air flow around the fan
It allows the fan to draw air through entire core. People have found it to be beneficial over not having a shroud
@Calvin-Nelson it's only pulling air behind the fan, the rest is covered.
Do you think we’ll ever get some atlas 5 cylinder action on the channel?
Yes. And 4 cylinder stuff too. Time is the challenge. We both work full time. We have a major non car project going on. And Part development. There is a bunch of 4200 stuff coming.. the Mustang...some customer work....the Norstar gets finished...then 2 major 4200 projects...then the 4 and 5 stuff. The volume will increase after I retire in 2 years...but for now we are trying to build the base for the channel
@@andrewnelson3733 I can’t wait! You guys are really awesome, keep up the good work. I wish the best to both of you! :)
you know what would break the internet, and ode to the 53 corvette, bring back an inline 6 corvette with a turbo 4.2….
I have thought about it a bunch of times.
Love your videos, Love the car, but sleeper? Really? First rule of sleeper fight club. OEM wheels not Mags.
Crazy how these youtubers throw up a 15-20m vid and then casually say "I've got about 20 hrs in this intake setup". hahahha. 😂
First time here?
Bro
The converter is Too loose
Possibly a tad. It's working.
I think the roll cage gives it away