+Darren Williams It's a shame. Pound for pound, she brings more credit to the feminist cause than anyone. In every organization, the constructively dissenting voice is what ensures long term survival, even at the cost of uncomfortable cleansing fires. By addressing the myopia of her peers, she rehabilitates her movement in the minds of clear headed people who have become disillusioned with the petulant hysteria that has crushed intelligent dialogue. She is that rare pioneer of the middle ground who stays true to her beliefs but also constantly holds those beliefs accountable to the standard of human good against which all revolutions should be measured. Unfortunately, rebellion too often stems from individual bitterness rather than the noble ideals they use to disguise the petty truth.
😊 Have you read any of her books? Sexual Personae , I would recommend. I wish she would resurface again ,bc I would love to see her speak on Art & Culture.
What makes Paglia so valuable (besides being so intelligent), is that she's lived long enough to have seen where and when the left/post-modernism went off the rails (and close enough to it) to precisely diagnose everything that went wrong in getting us to where we are today.
And yet she will be ignored because leftists never learn. It's so easy to fool them with false dichotomies like left= good and right= bad because of things like racism and social liberalism. But in the end they become the most authoritative, racist and progresshindering entity.
Paglia is a pedophile activist. She has consistently defended the sexual abuse of children and has never apologized of back down from that position. She is evil.
i remember long ago when i first bought her book 'Sexual Personae' when i was a senior in high school in '90. i was overwhelmed and enthralled reading it, and i could not understand why other women would get so agitated when i excitedly brought her up. i bought more of her books and just fell in with love her. i am just SO glad to see her still going at it, still growing and lecturing in her infamous style.
Ah yes, you know the book was good because it was quoted on the NAMBLA website, where she asserts that peto feeleya is both “rational and honorable.” 🙄 You are dumb as a fuckin rock, my friend. You and everyone else who fawns over this creep. People just hear somebody being pumped and go “oh they’re popular, they must be great,” and you write these long-winded statements praising her. Despite the fact she’s been using her writing to normalize peto feeleya for decades. If I ever saw her I’d tell her “eat shit creep,” but I bet you’d get on your knees and lick her asshole, wouldn’t ya? Brainless
I was in a room with Paglia yesterday and saw her on live stream the day before. Yes, live stream, because there was not enough room in the main auditorium that day. In Oslo, a city of 600.000, six HUNDRED people had shown up to see her, a professor! This was her first visit to Scandinavia, and I'm so so happy I got to see her at the National Academy of the Arts, thanks to a friend. I've been a fan of hers for a couple of years. Love your description of her and Sexual Personae.
"Art is not elitist in Italy; art belongs to the people at every possible level." [13:23] Brilliant! We don't think the same way in North America at all - and our culture is poorer for it.
@@maxmartin-merrells3723 same with in Kenya where they can interfere with and impact on theatre. This gets addressed in decolonisation the African mind
I love that she takes bourgeois hipster America to task for having no reverence. Indeed, that is the greatest thing about art is our enthusiastic engagement with it, not masturbating to a bunch of cheap "isms" in a literature class. Chaos is charming when you are 17, but I appreciate that she indicts us for our nihilism.
Camille Paglia is spot-on. What a mind! When someone like her, who is so extremely different from me, sees the same things I see and comes up with the same conclusions time and time again, that's got to mean something. It does for me, anyway.
beeroosterm I respect her honesty, intellect, and integrity. Unfortunately, feminism has already proven to be too dangerous to tolerate. It has already destroyed the traditional family and plunged the west into demographic winter; it poisons relationships between young men and women; and it will surely bring about the ruin of Western Civilization. It doesn't need to be critiqued; it needs to be crushed.
Yesterday she was talking about the depiction of women throughout history and prehistory. She raced through 58 pictures in 2h (not including Q&A), from prehistoric sculpture to modern fashion photography, making random jabs at feminists and, as she likes to say, "the effete literati". She's so utterly insane and inspiring. Switching between wildly speculative theories proposed as Truth, and surgically precise criticism in an instant.
Beyond words: the emphasis on the importance of art, spirituality, and it's historic importance in our society, and the role it continues to play (or not play) is so loaded with value . Love hearing her ideas, worth taking in her message
I love how she so enthusiastically enjoys the Q & A portion of her talks. She listens intently to the questions and goes into her responses with such depth. Her ideas and presentations are so thought provoking. The audience questions help her move her narrative into even more fascinating discussions. This is the best type of learning and of sharing ideas. I would have loved to have been a student in her classes. I'm sure she was tough, but she would be one of those professors who challenged me and made me a better thinker. That kind of confidence building in a student is priceless.
an absolute force of nature. My life has changed watching this. I read her book "Sexual Personae" many years ago and loved it but for whatever reason didn't pursue her other works. I wish I did. In a world that is becoming increasingly a ( in her words) " cultural wasteland" , she's the Last of the Mohicans. a real inspiration for people seeking true intellectual, artistic, cultural enlightenment
I would whole-heartedly and joyously let her talk for hours and listen and absorb all the knowledge and nuggets of wisdom she imparts. She's a masterpiece, a true intellectual. A beacon of light and common sense in this world that is slowly devolving into a philistine, PC cell.
She isn't saying the film Revenge of the Sith is the greatest work of art -she's speaking specifically about the art direction of the final scene on the volcano planet. And that was both visually masterful but also extremely symbolic (analogy for the end of man's industrial revolution, for one thing)
I wish I could shout out to Camille that my church supports the arts and dance and they actually have classes to take back the arts, an d they realize how the arts have fallen by the wayside, it is part of our spirituality
emily schwellenbach My church is filled with artists and musicians, writers and dancers. It’s a very small church but honors and embraces the arts as essential to our humanity, and our spirituality. The arts are actually considered an expression of our spirituality. I adore Camille, even though I embrace relationship with God.
I love her quite a lot. The tragedy is that she was never mentioned in any part of my liberal arts degree. I had always wondered why there seemed to be so little middle ground in academic feminist/cultural discourse until I came across Paglia, at which point everything kind of clicked and made sense. She says a lot of what I'd been thinking. Don't let her Hitchens (personal) comments distract you from the point she's making, because in my experience the point is entirely true and valid. The New Atheism is aggressive, corrosive, and polemical to the point of being as dogmatic as any religious fundamentalism. My personal worldview doesn't align with everything she espouses, but she's one of the few academics whose opinions I respect, regardless.
I really like Camille Paglia, but she is definitely in error dismissing Hitchens as someone who knew nothing about and never researched religions. Also I do not get what she means when she condemns him for throwing big parties. He was a brilliant man who did things his way and never apologized for it, quite like her. He even sort of predicted the 'victimhood business' and 'ISIS'. I simply do not agree with her.
I am a Hitchens fan as well and I have watched him closely enough to maybe give an answer to what she is getting at. I noticed that over Hitchens career his best writing was always inspired out of a sense of confrontation. He went after people he thought were hypocrites or fascists. His career for that reason is a great service. I think he turned his ire towards religion as a whole given that it is such a breeding ground for hypocrites and fascists. He was not wrong to do so, but he did it without any regard or respect for the history of religion, and its role in the humanities. I think this was a major misstep on his part. At a time when we need real thoughtful criticism of religion we are inundated with this cynical atheism that doesn't allow for it. Hitchens is partly responsible for that. I think she goes a bit overboard in laying it all on him, but she seems to use him as a symbol to make her point. I believe she made the party reference to suggest that Hitchens was more concerned about maintaining his place as a celebrity contrarian than engaging in honest discourse about religion which there is some truth to. I also notice that one of the reasons for Hitchens turn during the Iraq war was that he was tired of the unthinking anti-war left. Again his instincts were right to a point, but they are also reactionary, and not grounded in any deeper truth. Hitchens has come to represent this new snobby atheist left, that has given itself permission to shit all over the religion.
Did anyone else think of Seinfeld and Kramer's book on coffee tables that itself unfolds into a mini coffee table, when Camille mentioned her book on works of art is itself a work of art?
What a formidable woman, what brilliant intelligence, what an extraordinary, versatile and agile communicator. Thank you, Camille Paglia. Thank you very, very much.
I've only just discovered her on youtube. Haven't read any of her books but it's good to see an outspoken social commentator and cultural critic who isn't a slave to the hive-mind political and social debates of the mainstream media
Irregardless of her strange delivery, what she has to say is quite provocative, in my humble opinion. I don't always agree with her. At the same time, I think her perspective is fascinating and thought-provoking.
I love listening to her. It makes me want to become interested in the art she's referring to. I never did really think there was much to it to draw from today (as far as paintings and such go), but I take her point that all we have left for knowledge of the people of history is how they were depicted in art. That's a cool point that can't be overlooked.
Camille paglia is amazing, it's unfortunate that her brutally honest observant style isn't being heard more, I think a lot of people just turn off their brains once they hear her.
I really enjoyed listening to Camille.i feel and believe just like her except that I am Theistic.I derive a great deal of solace and insight in Arts and the wisdom of Religions.It feels consoletory to know that a scholar resonates with you.
If she's full of herself, it's because she has every right to be. If I was a millionth as well-read or smart as her, I would have a swollen head the size of an island. I wish there were more women like her for me to look up to. 😍
I came here to compliment Camille Paglia. Upon reading the comments of others, however, I realize that I lack the arcane polysyllabic vocabulary, ideological sophistication, and self-proclaimed erudition required to reach my intended audience for any length of time. Therefore I must resort to this recursive thinly-veiled ironic assault on sycophantic gushing which pathologically infects the sanctimonious contributions of the philistines who precede me.
I love her respect for what she's doing and for her honesty. No trivia, just sharing what she thinks and knows without considering the consequences. Even if she definitely is very smart, because of those features she is almost naive.
good observation. It's her passion for ideas that makes her that way. No other stuff in the way of her intellectual focus and desire,, therefore, not cynical or jaded or overly "adult."
I am waiting for an interview between Madonna and Camille since 1991! Looking at Madonnas career today the interview would be a „most watched“ in the last 20 years!
If we define a true scholar as one who stands above partisanship and Socratically "follows the argument wherever it leads one," then she fits the archetype. Bravo professor
Funny, my positive review of her anthology, "Vamps & Tramps," was rejected by Amazon for "not" adhering to their guidelines (some vague, some specific). My review had NO outside links, NO profanity or obscenity, NO personal stuff, and I focused on the product. Amazon should be more focused on helping their warehouse workers than censorship: Thank you for submitting Thank you for submitting a customer review on Amazon. After carefully reviewing your submission, your review could not be posted to the website. While we appreciate your time and comments, reviews must adhere to the following guidelines: Amazon Community Guidelines from John Molina on May 14, 2020 Vamps, Tramps & Rants Buy and read this book, "Vamps & Tramps," IF ONLY for her lacerating essay, "No Law in the Arena" (the title of which was borrowed from a line in 1959's classic, "Ben-Hur." Though a few predictions in other parts of the book have not come to pass, others have, and... A few common issues to keep in mind: • Your review should focus on specific features of the product and your experience with it. Feedback on the seller or your shipment experience should be provided at @t • We do not allow profane or obscene content. This applies to adult products too. • Advertisements, promotional material or repeated posts that make the same point excessively are considered spam. • Please do not include URLs external to Amazon or personally identifiable content in your review. • Any attempt to manipulate Community content or features, including contributing false, misleading, or inauthentic content, is strictly prohibited.
Completely agree with what she says about Christopher Hitchens, never liked him a jot. I also think it is important what she says about fashion- it is criticised by feminism, but that is a misunderstanding of the basic craftmanship and art behind it. Heavy industry and corporate greed is indeed awful, but that greed exploits fashion as a market- it isn't actually its original state.
"In the age of Kimble" As a retired computer scientist and aspiring architect I have relegated all my hardcopy books into the room with the stone tablets and papyrus rolls. All dogs have their day. That said, I think I might actually prefer color glossies printed on papyrus rolls. Magical indeed.
I so appreciate Camille's unique and human analysis. She sees the realities of being human and can appreciate the enduring wisdom that gets filtered through art, literature, among some of the more important philosophies and other disciplines. I question her declaration that the family unit is a wrong direction given the fact that its importance has risen and fallen throughout several thousand years. Current data points to the family unit as a top 3 success indicator. Also, the fall of the family has been a primary indicator of falling cultures in the past. My own single, feminist mother would say that millennia of women have raised their kids without a father ("just fine") while the fathers were off to war or killed at war. Which, given our current state of the union, seems to be a message from the Universe about the stupidity of war and less about the wisdom of generations being raised without a father figure. I see the importance of community involvement and responsibility in raising kids. But I would also apply that same importance and RESPONSIBILITY to the even more personal level of the family unit.
I absolutely love my Kindle. It's a very useful tool. But I insist on still having paper and hardback books as well. Granted, a large part of this is because sometimes I'm able to get a second-hand paper or hardback cheaper than the Kindle version. But that's an advantage. Because much as I appreciate the practicality of my Kindle. I still love holding a book, feeling the pages, smelling the unique scent. Especially of an old, well loved and much read copy.
I love this woman! Comparing and contrasting the younger Paglia with the older, I find the older kinder, more funny/less biting, and even more incisive. Gone is the ego to prove herself and now here she is, simply herself, saying much the same as she always has but with a soft, compassionate and still humorous humanity I find absolutely endearing, stimulating and enlightening.
"Simplicity is hard," Camille Paglia says. Once again I am amazed of how many people do not buy the critics but hunger for truth. I would love to hear her ideas on the true visual mavericks like Greenaway, Cronberg, or even Tarkovsky.. The question of the night is if you are stranded on a island what would you rather have a Bible or TV.
Jesse Akaike I asked because I find his films to be fascinating in the manner in which they bring what is in the shadow of the psyche out into the world, a bit like David Lynch does. I hope that did not sound too pretentious.
--jagara1-- Exactly! You took the words right out of my head. And what makes their movies which overshadow anything that John Ford ever made, and because of their simple minded refusal to dismiss movie as only a surface for passing time but the truth being the Videodome, I know I am not being fair, but this is because no true support and recognition of such Rembrandt as David Cronenburg has even been given. If people really under stand this we can go beyond what disaster Hollywood has made movies into. And then we can truly begin to appreciate the chiaroscuro.
I will take her point on HItchens but I don't think she read or listened to him enough to just dismiss him as someone who had no understanding of Religion and that he just went about trashing it....Dawkins would be more in that mould but if you consider The Four Horsemen Hitchens, Dennett, Harris and Dawkins; Dennett loved the traditions and community that religion created, Harris wrote a book on spirituality. I do not think all religions are equal and she intimates toward that thinking at points.
Dawkins celebrated the King James bible as a poetic work, and I think he's spoken movingly about Anglican hymns too. It's the belief system behind it that he has no time for.
Hitchens too had a deep admiration for the King James Bible (which he expressed, I'm bound to say, in a rather more vivid and revealing manner than did Dawkins), about which he wrote and spoke many times. I recollect one article in which Hitchens conducted a critical comparison a score of different bible translations. Paglia's contention that he hadn't bothered to study religion in general or Christianity in particular could hardly be further from the truth. For christ's sakes, this was a man who held as a point of pride that William Tyndale was in fact born William Hytchens. In general, I quite like Pagila (as did Hitchens, by the way), but unfortunately someone did neglect the most basic research prior to voicing scorn, and it was Paglia.
Gosh there is so much here that I have observed in my life. This irreverence for the great religions, and their myths, that she speaks of is turning out uneducated college grads. there is so often disdain for any religious or metaphysical thought in the classroom. what she says about students' knowledge of art is something i have observed. I was fortunate to be exposed to the arts from childhood. my parents were both painters and dragged us to the village every weekend for the art shows on the street, i never associated art with upper class snobbery and pretension. Art education really needs to start young, but they are too busy preparing students for standardized tests, which start as early as 4th grade!
Love Professor Paglia, but I would disagree with her take on Christopher Hitchens. He stated many times he respected religions as mankind's first attempt to understand. He acknowledged, enthusiastically, the desire for the transcendent. Christopher was extraordinarily competent and knowledgeable of the writing of the three main monotheistic systems of faith, but he disdained those who would assume that they knew things denied to others because of their faith. He was especially contemptuous towards those who would use their subjective faith to impose beliefs, acts or omissions on others through any means. His contempt was not directed at the apologists or the faithful, but those who would use the agreement of the faithful to control others. And he was very well informed and educated regarding the history of faith.
Confess I'm shocked and disappointed that she doesn't know how to pronounce Michelango, but nobody's perfect - apparently even someone with Italian lineage.
One more thing: I don't think Camille is really an atheist, she explains that she's one because she rejects organized religions and a personal god and then she describes her great reverence for nature and the elemental forces. Yes! But this I see as the words from a true believer, for what she describes is God in motion, not a big person in the sky, but the force and the intelligence that has created the Universe. This is holy and worthy of great awe and respect. And this is how I see Camille, a wonderful exemplar of the devotee of nature and of the creation's real God!
Dunno about all that total respect of all the world's religions thing. Yes they should be appreciated and understood as part of human history. Hitchens and Dawkins did get sometimes too snobby about religion but The Four Horsemen interview with them reveals what Paglia says to not be entirely true, where Hitchens explicitly declares an utmost admiration and respect for the aesthetic accomplishments of religion. She might have got the wrong end of the stick I think, Hitchens' main concern was when religion causes people to fly planes into buildings full of people.
I love Camille. However, I would point out to her that "the subversive gesture," as she puts it, is alive and well in blaspheming Muhammad and Islam. However, the West is trapped in on the safe shores of Christian and Jewish sacrilege, precisely because there's no price to be paid there. I think that every student in the great art schools of the U.S. and Europe should participate in Draw Muhammad Day (Wednesday May 20, this year), as a school project every year. That would actually be avant guard and mean something profound for the world.
Great thinker, & she may even be slightly right about Hitchens but she's not making a great argument against him, comes off personal & petty. Also, Hitch was well-read. They're so similar, they don't like each other, ha ha
@45:43 and @52:30 are true nowadays. Esepcially if you're dealing with feminists and academics in gender studies. Need to suck everything in as a graduate student yet, and unleash the boom later once tenured.
are you a grad student? in the arts? i'm an undergraduate at an art school and the dreary head tutor of our year hates her (why am i surprised?). i feel like through reading and studying camille's work i'm better at inflicting standards and discipline and laying down the law than are my deadbeat teachers. i actually emailed her to ask her to see if she could come and lecture at my university...if only
really ? have you read Derrida's essay on blindness ? how about Kristeva's analysis of the The Body of the Dead Christ ? These people know their art history and repect it . Kristeva coming from Bulgaria, is well versed in Orthodox iconography. And postmodern art isn't french, it's as American as apple pie. Lichtenstein, Warhol...people who ruined art by turning into commerce. And wanna read dense prose on art ? Try Talcott Parsons (a yankee btw)
could we be witnessing the end of postmodernism? a lot people who have entered the mainstream stage of discussion are advent and ferocious critics of it.
She makes most other public speakers sound like clones. What an original, bright, interesting, entertaining. A whole human being.
+Darren Williams It's a shame. Pound for pound, she brings more credit to the feminist cause than anyone. In every organization, the constructively dissenting voice is what ensures long term survival, even at the cost of uncomfortable cleansing fires. By addressing the myopia of her peers, she rehabilitates her movement in the minds of clear headed people who have become disillusioned with the petulant hysteria that has crushed intelligent dialogue. She is that rare pioneer of the middle ground who stays true to her beliefs but also constantly holds those beliefs accountable to the standard of human good against which all revolutions should be measured. Unfortunately, rebellion too often stems from individual bitterness rather than the noble ideals they use to disguise the petty truth.
calohtar did you have to go in like that 😂 I agree 100% btw.
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@@amillionlittledingdongs6768 08:30 James Baldwin on the artists struggle for integrity
😊 Have you read any of her books? Sexual Personae , I would recommend.
I wish she would resurface again ,bc I would love to see her speak on Art & Culture.
What makes Paglia so valuable (besides being so intelligent), is that she's lived long enough to have seen where and when the left/post-modernism went off the rails (and close enough to it) to precisely diagnose everything that went wrong in getting us to where we are today.
Perfectly true and keen observation, she`s doing what her peers have abdicated out of either egoism or indifference
And yet she will be ignored because leftists never learn. It's so easy to fool them with false dichotomies like left= good and right= bad because of things like racism and social liberalism. But in the end they become the most authoritative, racist and progresshindering entity.
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Paglia is a pedophile activist. She has consistently defended the sexual abuse of children and has never apologized of back down from that position. She is evil.
i remember long ago when i first bought her book 'Sexual Personae' when i was a senior in high school in '90. i was overwhelmed and enthralled reading it, and i could not understand why other women would get so agitated when i excitedly brought her up. i bought more of her books and just fell in with love her. i am just SO glad to see her still going at it, still growing and lecturing in her infamous style.
Ah yes, you know the book was good because it was quoted on the NAMBLA website, where she asserts that peto feeleya is both “rational and honorable.” 🙄
You are dumb as a fuckin rock, my friend. You and everyone else who fawns over this creep. People just hear somebody being pumped and go “oh they’re popular, they must be great,” and you write these long-winded statements praising her. Despite the fact she’s been using her writing to normalize peto feeleya for decades. If I ever saw her I’d tell her “eat shit creep,” but I bet you’d get on your knees and lick her asshole, wouldn’t ya? Brainless
Please who is Rene Cox ?
Great book. 👏
I was in a room with Paglia yesterday and saw her on live stream the day before. Yes, live stream, because there was not enough room in the main auditorium that day. In Oslo, a city of 600.000, six HUNDRED people had shown up to see her, a professor! This was her first visit to Scandinavia, and I'm so so happy I got to see her at the National Academy of the Arts, thanks to a friend. I've been a fan of hers for a couple of years. Love your description of her and Sexual Personae.
I may not agree with everything she says or believes, but she is utterly erudite and captivating. If only we had more academics like her.
By not agreeing with everything, you mean the part where she defends pedophilia?
Yes we need more people writing in favor of boy love 🙄 dipshit
Please what does erudite mean ?
"Art is not elitist in Italy; art belongs to the people at every possible level." [13:23] Brilliant! We don't think the same way in North America at all - and our culture is poorer for it.
Same in Australia. Talk about the dead end of secular humanism! And I’m a secular humanist too.
@@maxmartin-merrells3723 same with in Kenya where they can interfere with and impact on theatre. This gets addressed in decolonisation the African mind
I love that she takes bourgeois hipster America to task for having no reverence. Indeed, that is the greatest thing about art is our enthusiastic engagement with it, not masturbating to a bunch of cheap "isms" in a literature class. Chaos is charming when you are 17, but I appreciate that she indicts us for our nihilism.
Brilliantly put
Camille Paglia is spot-on. What a mind! When someone like her, who is so extremely different from me, sees the same things I see and comes up with the same conclusions time and time again, that's got to mean something. It does for me, anyway.
beeroosterm I respect her honesty, intellect, and integrity. Unfortunately, feminism has already proven to be too dangerous to tolerate. It has already destroyed the traditional family and plunged the west into demographic winter; it poisons relationships between young men and women; and it will surely bring about the ruin of Western Civilization. It doesn't need to be critiqued; it needs to be crushed.
MGTOW is already beginning to frighten a lot of women -- and rightfully so. Watch and see what things look like 10 years from now.
+beeroosterm I LOVE her!! I don't have the education to speak as she does, but I intellectually grasp her ideas and basically agree with most of them.
+Robert Roth War, ignorance and decadence destroys human civilization --- true story.
I know exactly what you mean. Such reason, so many wonderful ideas coming at you. It is incredibly stimulating. She mesmerizes me.
We desperately need more university professors with this passion and ability for critical thought.
Where is your critical thought? Why do you like this creep?
Yesterday she was talking about the depiction of women throughout history and prehistory. She raced through 58 pictures in 2h (not including Q&A), from prehistoric sculpture to modern fashion photography, making random jabs at feminists and, as she likes to say, "the effete literati". She's so utterly insane and inspiring. Switching between wildly speculative theories proposed as Truth, and surgically precise criticism in an instant.
a woman with balls, wit, intelligence, vision and brilliance.
Beyond words: the emphasis on the importance of art, spirituality, and it's historic importance in our society, and the role it continues to play (or not play) is so loaded with value . Love hearing her ideas, worth taking in her message
I love how she so enthusiastically enjoys the Q & A portion of her talks. She listens intently to the questions and goes into her responses with such depth. Her ideas and presentations are so thought provoking. The audience questions help her move her narrative into even more fascinating discussions. This is the best type of learning and of sharing ideas. I would have loved to have been a student in her classes. I'm sure she was tough, but she would be one of those professors who challenged me and made me a better thinker. That kind of confidence building in a student is priceless.
She's like an evangelistic preacher from the 1940's. This woman is a national treasure.
an absolute force of nature. My life has changed watching this. I read her book "Sexual Personae" many years ago and loved it but for whatever reason didn't pursue her other works. I wish I did. In a world that is becoming increasingly a ( in her words) " cultural wasteland" , she's the Last of the Mohicans. a real inspiration for people seeking true intellectual, artistic, cultural enlightenment
So, So, So great. I swear she is becoming sharper and MORE relevant as she ages. "chronology is meaningful" yes, yes, yes.
19:00 how dare she go after Christopher Hitchens
I would whole-heartedly and joyously let her talk for hours and listen and absorb all the knowledge and nuggets of wisdom she imparts. She's a masterpiece, a true intellectual. A beacon of light and common sense in this world that is slowly devolving into a philistine, PC cell.
One of my primary regrets in life is that I lacked Camille's mind-altering monologues during my formative years, when they might have done more good.
15:00 it sounds like harassment
amen 😄
She isn't saying the film Revenge of the Sith is the greatest work of art -she's speaking specifically about the art direction of the final scene on the volcano planet. And that was both visually masterful but also extremely symbolic (analogy for the end of man's industrial revolution, for one thing)
Very interesting talk. I feel like she's easier to listen to in later years as she seems to have calmed down a bit. :P
I wish I could shout out to Camille that my church supports the arts and dance and they actually have classes to take back the arts, an d they realize how the arts have fallen by the wayside, it is part of our spirituality
emily schwellenbach My church is filled with artists and musicians, writers and dancers. It’s a very small church but honors and embraces the arts as essential to our humanity, and our spirituality. The arts are actually considered an expression of our spirituality. I adore Camille, even though I embrace relationship with God.
I love her quite a lot. The tragedy is that she was never mentioned in any part of my liberal arts degree. I had always wondered why there seemed to be so little middle ground in academic feminist/cultural discourse until I came across Paglia, at which point everything kind of clicked and made sense. She says a lot of what I'd been thinking.
Don't let her Hitchens (personal) comments distract you from the point she's making, because in my experience the point is entirely true and valid. The New Atheism is aggressive, corrosive, and polemical to the point of being as dogmatic as any religious fundamentalism.
My personal worldview doesn't align with everything she espouses, but she's one of the few academics whose opinions I respect, regardless.
I really like Camille Paglia, but she is definitely in error dismissing Hitchens as someone who knew nothing about and never researched religions. Also I do not get what she means when she condemns him for throwing big parties. He was a brilliant man who did things his way and never apologized for it, quite like her. He even sort of predicted the 'victimhood business' and 'ISIS'. I simply do not agree with her.
I am a Hitchens fan as well and I have watched him closely enough to maybe give an answer to what she is getting at. I noticed that over Hitchens career his best writing was always inspired out of a sense of confrontation. He went after people he thought were hypocrites or fascists. His career for that reason is a great service. I think he turned his ire towards religion as a whole given that it is such a breeding ground for hypocrites and fascists. He was not wrong to do so, but he did it without any regard or respect for the history of religion, and its role in the humanities. I think this was a major misstep on his part. At a time when we need real thoughtful criticism of religion we are inundated with this cynical atheism that doesn't allow for it. Hitchens is partly responsible for that. I think she goes a bit overboard in laying it all on him, but she seems to use him as a symbol to make her point. I believe she made the party reference to suggest that Hitchens was more concerned about maintaining his place as a celebrity contrarian than engaging in honest discourse about religion which there is some truth to. I also notice that one of the reasons for Hitchens turn during the Iraq war was that he was tired of the unthinking anti-war left. Again his instincts were right to a point, but they are also reactionary, and not grounded in any deeper truth. Hitchens has come to represent this new snobby atheist left, that has given itself permission to shit all over the religion.
she is right. it's either he knew nothing or he was fool or a liar. for all religion are completely different
Great people seem sometimes to be annoyed by other Great People
...in the same manner that I have sometimes observed two mighty Trees oppose one another in the Forest for example
hitchens and paglia are more similar than she probably realises...
Did anyone else think of Seinfeld and Kramer's book on coffee tables that itself unfolds into a mini coffee table, when Camille mentioned her book on works of art is itself a work of art?
Brilliant as usual. I’ve read Paglia’s work since the late 1990s.
What a formidable woman, what brilliant intelligence, what an extraordinary, versatile and agile communicator. Thank you, Camille Paglia. Thank you very, very much.
Long after her time passes we will look back on her as one of the finest intellects of our time
I've only just discovered her on youtube. Haven't read any of her books but it's good to see an outspoken social commentator and cultural critic who isn't a slave to the hive-mind political and social debates of the mainstream media
Irregardless of her strange delivery, what she has to say is quite provocative, in my humble opinion. I don't always agree with her. At the same time, I think her perspective is fascinating and thought-provoking.
regardless...not 'irregardless'...look it up!
Beth Heinecamp regardless or irrespective, not the portmanteau irregardless.
IRREGARDLESS is not a word in the English language!
I love listening to her. It makes me want to become interested in the art she's referring to. I never did really think there was much to it to draw from today (as far as paintings and such go), but I take her point that all we have left for knowledge of the people of history is how they were depicted in art. That's a cool point that can't be overlooked.
Yeah, she's great: a genuine public intellectual.
Camille paglia is amazing, it's unfortunate that her brutally honest observant style isn't being heard more, I think a lot of people just turn off their brains once they hear her.
I really enjoyed listening to Camille.i feel and believe just like her except that I am Theistic.I derive a great deal of solace and insight in Arts and the wisdom of Religions.It feels consoletory to know that a scholar resonates with you.
35:00 "what group have I not offended"
At the 28:00 mark, she talks about how she has to decompress herself before an NPR interview -- hilarious!
Whole audience was indulging. I thought it would be a post structuralist joke
I'm in love with this woman. I disagree with her on Hitchens, I think the world needs more Hitchens. But also more Camilles.
I adore this woman! SO intelligent.
If she's full of herself, it's because she has every right to be. If I was a millionth as well-read or smart as her, I would have a swollen head the size of an island. I wish there were more women like her for me to look up to. 😍
I can't stand Paglia anymore. She's misrepresented herself.
@@KR-nv3ru In what way did Paglia misrepresent herself? I'm new to her....I feel how you did in your 1st comment.
I came here to compliment Camille Paglia. Upon reading the comments of others, however, I realize that I lack the arcane polysyllabic vocabulary, ideological sophistication, and self-proclaimed erudition required to reach my intended audience for any length of time. Therefore I must resort to this recursive thinly-veiled ironic assault on sycophantic gushing which pathologically infects the sanctimonious contributions of the philistines who precede me.
Marry me...
what did you just say?????
I love her respect for what she's doing and for her honesty. No trivia, just sharing what she thinks and knows without considering the consequences. Even if she definitely is very smart, because of those features she is almost naive.
good observation. It's her passion for ideas that makes her that way. No other stuff in the way of her intellectual focus and desire,, therefore, not cynical or jaded or overly "adult."
One of the best talks I've ever seen. I would switch out Terrence Malick's "Tree of Life" however with Lucas' "Revenge of the Sith".
You are a living goddess ✨️
So few great iconoclast like you.
I am waiting for an interview between Madonna and Camille since 1991!
Looking at Madonnas career today the interview would be a „most watched“ in the last 20 years!
If we define a true scholar as one who stands above partisanship and Socratically "follows the argument wherever it leads one," then she fits the archetype. Bravo professor
What a precious source of intellect this amazing woman is. Very inspiring.
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Love Camille! Truly one of the greatest thinkers.
Impressionists starved? And what of the situationists?
Hi MrLeagueOJustice, this program was recorded on November 4, 2012 at the Francis W. Parker School.
I've come back to her work loads recently for some reason, she's still a force of fucking nature.
Completely agree with what she says about Christopher Hitchens, never liked him a jot. I also think it is important what she says about fashion- it is criticised by feminism, but that is a misunderstanding of the basic craftmanship and art behind it. Heavy industry and corporate greed is indeed awful, but that greed exploits fashion as a market- it isn't actually its original state.
"In the age of Kimble" As a retired computer scientist and aspiring architect I have relegated all my hardcopy books into the room with the stone tablets and papyrus rolls. All dogs have their day. That said, I think I might actually prefer color glossies printed on papyrus rolls. Magical indeed.
I so appreciate Camille's unique and human analysis. She sees the realities of being human and can appreciate the enduring wisdom that gets filtered through art, literature, among some of the more important philosophies and other disciplines.
I question her declaration that the family unit is a wrong direction given the fact that its importance has risen and fallen throughout several thousand years. Current data points to the family unit as a top 3 success indicator. Also, the fall of the family has been a primary indicator of falling cultures in the past.
My own single, feminist mother would say that millennia of women have raised their kids without a father ("just fine") while the fathers were off to war or killed at war. Which, given our current state of the union, seems to be a message from the Universe about the stupidity of war and less about the wisdom of generations being raised without a father figure. I see the importance of community involvement and responsibility in raising kids. But I would also apply that same importance and RESPONSIBILITY to the even more personal level of the family unit.
I absolutely love my Kindle. It's a very useful tool. But I insist on still having paper and hardback books as well.
Granted, a large part of this is because sometimes I'm able to get a second-hand paper or hardback cheaper than the Kindle version.
But that's an advantage. Because much as I appreciate the practicality of my Kindle. I still love holding a book, feeling the pages, smelling the unique scent. Especially of an old, well loved and much read copy.
I love this woman! Comparing and contrasting the younger Paglia with the older, I find the older kinder, more funny/less biting, and even more incisive. Gone is the ego to prove herself and now here she is, simply herself, saying much the same as she always has but with a soft, compassionate and still humorous humanity I find absolutely endearing, stimulating and enlightening.
28:45 am radio. William Cooper hour of the time ?
As a man of culture I support this jewel of knowledge one of the smartest women iv listened to in a long wile like her to b on Rogan
"Simplicity is hard," Camille Paglia says. Once again I am amazed of how many people do not buy the critics but hunger for truth. I would love to hear her ideas on the true visual mavericks like Greenaway, Cronberg, or even Tarkovsky.. The question of the night is if you are stranded on a island what would you rather have a Bible or TV.
I'LL ANSWER MY OWN QUESTION. TV IF IT'S CABLE.
"Cronberg" - do you mean David Cronenberg?
Yes. Typo. David Cronenberg. Thanks for the heads up.
Jesse Akaike I asked because I find his films to be fascinating in the manner in which they bring what is in the shadow of the psyche out into the world, a bit like David Lynch does.
I hope that did not sound too pretentious.
--jagara1-- Exactly! You took the words right out of my head. And what makes their movies which overshadow anything that John Ford ever made, and because of their simple minded refusal to dismiss movie as only a surface for passing time but the truth being the Videodome, I know I am not being fair, but this is because no true support and recognition of such Rembrandt as David Cronenburg has even been given. If people really under stand this we can go beyond what disaster Hollywood has made movies into. And then we can truly begin to appreciate the chiaroscuro.
Such a joy. So accessible & so smart. I love her.
31:00 why Andy Warhol ?
Apart from making a lot of sense, Camille Paglia is a great stand up comedian.
I will take her point on HItchens but I don't think she read or listened to him enough to just dismiss him as someone who had no understanding of Religion and that he just went about trashing it....Dawkins would be more in that mould but if you consider The Four Horsemen Hitchens, Dennett, Harris and Dawkins; Dennett loved the traditions and community that religion created, Harris wrote a book on spirituality. I do not think all religions are equal and she intimates toward that thinking at points.
Dawkins celebrated the King James bible as a poetic work, and I think he's spoken movingly about Anglican hymns too. It's the belief system behind it that he has no time for.
Hitchens too had a deep admiration for the King James Bible (which he expressed, I'm bound to say, in a rather more vivid and revealing manner than did Dawkins), about which he wrote and spoke many times. I recollect one article in which Hitchens conducted a critical comparison a score of different bible translations. Paglia's contention that he hadn't bothered to study religion in general or Christianity in particular could hardly be further from the truth. For christ's sakes, this was a man who held as a point of pride that William Tyndale was in fact born William Hytchens.
In general, I quite like Pagila (as did Hitchens, by the way), but unfortunately someone did neglect the most basic research prior to voicing scorn, and it was Paglia.
I havent heard anyone speak like this in years, with so many ideas pouring out, unimpeded by identity politics.
Camille inspired me to be a painting professor
31:30 who ?
Gosh there is so much here that I have observed in my life. This irreverence for the great religions, and their myths, that she speaks of is turning out uneducated college grads. there is so often disdain for any religious or metaphysical thought in the classroom. what she says about students' knowledge of art is something i have observed. I was fortunate to be exposed to the arts from childhood. my parents were both painters and dragged us to the village every weekend for the art shows on the street, i never associated art with upper class snobbery and pretension. Art education really needs to start young, but they are too busy preparing students for standardized tests, which start as early as 4th grade!
Jesus. I want that book.
Love Professor Paglia, but I would disagree with her take on Christopher Hitchens. He stated many times he respected religions as mankind's first attempt to understand. He acknowledged, enthusiastically, the desire for the transcendent. Christopher was extraordinarily competent and knowledgeable of the writing of the three main monotheistic systems of faith, but he disdained those who would assume that they knew things denied to others because of their faith. He was especially contemptuous towards those who would use their subjective faith to impose beliefs, acts or omissions on others through any means. His contempt was not directed at the apologists or the faithful, but those who would use the agreement of the faithful to control others. And he was very well informed and educated regarding the history of faith.
Makes Ted Talks look like elementary school.
She’s PHENOMENAL 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
"No one knows where she belong"----😂😂😂😂 I was puzzled for time to time😝😝😝
Thank you for this. Paglia is so refreshing.
37:00 Blavatsky ? KRISHNAMURTI?
Confess I'm shocked and disappointed that she doesn't know how to pronounce Michelango, but nobody's perfect - apparently even someone with Italian lineage.
Can you say, “fàgēt”?
Camille is a force of nature
Why associate a female with nature. Why not a man !
One more thing: I don't think Camille is really an atheist, she explains that she's one because she rejects organized religions and a personal god and then she describes her great reverence for nature and the elemental forces. Yes! But this I see as the words from a true believer, for what she describes is God in motion, not a big person in the sky, but the force and the intelligence that has created the Universe. This is holy and worthy of great awe and respect. And this is how I see Camille, a wonderful exemplar of the devotee of nature and of the creation's real God!
Dunno about all that total respect of all the world's religions thing. Yes they should be appreciated and understood as part of human history. Hitchens and Dawkins did get sometimes too snobby about religion but The Four Horsemen interview with them reveals what Paglia says to not be entirely true, where Hitchens explicitly declares an utmost admiration and respect for the aesthetic accomplishments of religion. She might have got the wrong end of the stick I think, Hitchens' main concern was when religion causes people to fly planes into buildings full of people.
My dream next-door neighbors: Camille and Louis Armstrong.
Who ?
Love her impersonation of the NPR voice!
wonderful !
I'm surprised she didn't include comments on Christo for contemporary art.
I love Camille. However, I would point out to her that "the subversive gesture," as she puts it, is alive and well in blaspheming Muhammad and Islam. However, the West is trapped in on the safe shores of Christian and Jewish sacrilege, precisely because there's no price to be paid there.
I think that every student in the great art schools of the U.S. and Europe should participate in Draw Muhammad Day (Wednesday May 20, this year), as a school project every year. That would actually be avant guard and mean something profound for the world.
Even the Christopher Booker text "group think" begins with what appears is critical of Islam
I adore Ms. Paglia's views on art, art history, art appreciation etc., but she is just plain wrong on Hitchens.
Great thinker, & she may even be slightly right about Hitchens but she's not making a great argument against him, comes off personal & petty.
Also, Hitch was well-read.
They're so similar, they don't like each other, ha ha
She is so tiny but what a force! Brilliant intellectual
SHE IS AMAZING! !!!!
Love her, she's great!
One of the greatest minds of our time love to have a coffee with her.
On FIRE.
Maravilhosa Camilla, obrigada.
I laughed SO hard at the NPR bit!
I'm sure she or her publisher was paid by Disney to say that about Lucas...I think she originally wanted to end the book with Japanese animation.
Amazing person...
I love Camille.
Thank you!
Mr. Hitchens was not Snide, essentially
52:70 I love this woman
As I listen to this woman I can feel my IQ getting higher.
You sound like Esther Vilar. Shame on you
@@omalone1169 thanks.
58:55 - I agree!
Tenderness of men towards babies , emotionally compelling
Appreciating art. Luther translation. Catholic Church to Puritans. US conservatism
@@omalone1169 I have no idea with what I have agreed with then
great passion!!!
The BEST!!!!!!
@45:43 and @52:30 are true nowadays. Esepcially if you're dealing with feminists and academics in gender studies. Need to suck everything in as a graduate student yet, and unleash the boom later once tenured.
are you a grad student? in the arts? i'm an undergraduate at an art school and the dreary head tutor of our year hates her (why am i surprised?). i feel like through reading and studying camille's work i'm better at inflicting standards and discipline and laying down the law than are my deadbeat teachers. i actually emailed her to ask her to see if she could come and lecture at my university...if only
@@RapidBlindfolds on people going into academia. Tommy Curry goes through this and discusses the need to attack fossils
I’m gonna have to take another look at Revenge of the Syth.
Please what is that?
really ? have you read Derrida's essay on blindness ? how about Kristeva's analysis of the The Body of the Dead Christ ? These people know their art history and repect it . Kristeva coming from Bulgaria, is well versed in Orthodox iconography. And postmodern art isn't french, it's as American as apple pie. Lichtenstein, Warhol...people who ruined art by turning into commerce. And wanna read dense prose on art ? Try Talcott Parsons (a yankee btw)
could we be witnessing the end of postmodernism? a lot people who have entered the mainstream stage of discussion are advent and ferocious critics of it.
Feel the Stirn We As of 2018 we are still in the Modern and Postmodern era.
Times up, Artists