TIME CODES: DaVinci Resolve 1st Example: 1:50 2nd Example: 14:57 Export out as LUT (cube) for Premiere Pro: 19:54 Import LUT into Premiere Pro: 20:46 Premiere Pro Example: 21:34
Firsth and foremost let me thank you for being so clear and non rushed in your instructions on what buttons to hit in Resolve as you go thru the process of using the color checker and creating a good image. I've seen a bunch of videos using the color checker with Resolve and it's tough to clearly understand the process in Resolve. I think your video is the best in this regard.
Joseph Friedman thanos so much! I’ve watched many tutorials related to that as well & even though it made my video longer I’d rather the video be longer & throughly show in a tutorial how to properly do something than rush through it just for the sake of cutting down on time on the video. Glad it could help you!
One last comment since I've devoted an hour or two this morning to making this whole thing work for me. Did a few examples to my satisfaction. Love the skin tone adjustment re: color, - it's fabulous. So again thanks.
just came across your video i must say that your info about getting the perfect exposure and colors in davinic resolves have tech me a lot i was having problem getting my colors right I'm shooting in v-log on the Panasonic s5iix, just starting my business great video thanks bro
I think you might want to rethink the order of operations here. Some of the steps are redundant in that you set the colors to the color chart which is also transforming the v-log to rec709 then you are white balancing, the exposure balancing using middle grey from v-log even though you have already transform the colorspace in the first node to rec709 which in Resolve is now scaled to the scopes at 500 - which is the middle of black to white on the scale- then you are doing the hue on the vectors - which is showing a blue being out - because the color chart was done before the white balance and you inadvertently changed the corrected hue by changing the white balance temperature. Then checking the whole skin tone to a tiny power window on the guys cheek , begs the reason why you bothered qualifying the skin tones i n the first place, if that was your target - there was no reason to grab the key on the skin. You might be thinking that you only want the change on the skin but soon as you turn off that little power window it applies to the whole frame. You know that if the hues and balance is done correctly, the skin tone will be most likely dead on the money. Small tip to save you some time - set up your keyboard preferences for the TAB key to label nodes. Big time saver. In most productions the color chart is not used to balance the colors - it is usually shot as a safety for bad camera settings. GH5 has a look to it - part of it is the color rendition. Colorists are usually given only a couple of minutes per angle/clip to balance the shot. I am afraid that if all those steps were done in that order - would never make any money. Use a CST and get your footage into rec709 - do the white balance - the chart is handy there. Then do exposure and balance. Once you have that down - grab a still and use that node tree as a starting point.
Thanks so much for all of the tips! This video was made over a year ago so some of the steps I’ve done here I don’t do anymore for that exact reason you mentioned of being redundant. really appreciate the Tips & insight! The tab shortcut def is a time saver I didn’t think about.
So do I get it right, that I normally shouldn't do "match colors" with the color chart and only fit the first row of colors to their corresponding points in vectorscope? And what do you mean by "balance"?
I've copied down all the steps in doing this whole process. And I've started making it work for me. The image I'm working with has the Passport at the lower part of the screen. When I magnify the image to bring the Passport closer, it goes off the screen. How do you move the image up so the passport comes into view?
great content joe! love how you make the process simple to understand but extremely effective too, just wondering if you do the same workflow if you don't get the chance to record with the colour checker? keep it up!
Hey Samson, thanks for the comment! Yes and no when it comes to the same workflow if I don't use the color checker. So when setting up the shot I still will ALWAYS check my waveform levels to make sure my shot is not crushed in the blacks or blown in the highlights. Whether or not I under or overexpose and by how much just depends on what camera I'm shooting on and what flat profile I'm choosing to shoot with. The only thing that changes up if I don't have the color checker is me being able to set the 6 chromatic colors on point every time. But you can still get a base reading of your exposure and skin tone levels during production or in post production but you'll get MUCH better results if you set everything up to how you want it during production so it saves you time and hassle in post. Hope that answer helps!
But what if you want to apply this color correction to other clips from the film that does not have the color checker in the shot? Can you still just drop it on as a lut and it will look the same? Or do you have to have the color checker in the shot at every location and with every lighting and exposure change?
You could save this as a LUT and apply to different clips through out the same location, but if you move locations and you don't have a color checker the saved LUT will still work but you'd have to tweak the exposure and depending on if you're filming a different person(s) you'd have to fix the skin tones. You don't NEED the color checker, you can view the cameras exposure level on LCD screen or if it has a histogram look at that but having the color checker is a much quicker more efficient way to dial in on set and when going in post.
What I usually do is use this chart or if I don't have the chart try to keep the mid range around the 40-50% line in the waveform display on the GH5. Middle Gray on the GH5 Vlog 42IRE so if you keep it within that 40-50% line you'll be set. Another way to make sure is go into your settings on the gh5 and select the zebra and set the 1st zebra to 80-100 and the second zebra option to the lowest option (50%) and when you're exposing the image if you're on the 50% option when the zebras disappear from the skin or on the chart you're correctly exposed and not over exposing your mid tones line.
I imagine you could have skipped step one and still gotten good results. What does step one do to the image that you don’t get if you skip it? Great video by the way.
Absolutely, Step one I'm not able to do inside of Premiere Pro like I was inside of Davinci Resolve and still got close to if not equal results. Using that chart to go from your source game to the target gamma and color space just is a quicker process than using a S-Curve to match the similar results. I would just say you know for sure it's correctly done with that chart step one process as opposed to just using the s-curve to convert that flat image into a rec-709 color space if that makes sense.
TIME CODES:
DaVinci Resolve 1st Example: 1:50
2nd Example: 14:57
Export out as LUT (cube) for Premiere Pro: 19:54
Import LUT into Premiere Pro: 20:46
Premiere Pro Example: 21:34
Firsth and foremost let me thank you for being so clear and non rushed in your instructions on what buttons to hit in Resolve as you go thru the process of using the color checker and creating a good image. I've seen a bunch of videos using the color checker with Resolve and it's tough to clearly understand the process in Resolve. I think your video is the best in this regard.
Joseph Friedman thanos so much! I’ve watched many tutorials related to that as well & even though it made my video longer I’d rather the video be longer & throughly show in a tutorial how to properly do something than rush through it just for the sake of cutting down on time on the video. Glad it could help you!
One last comment since I've devoted an hour or two this morning to making this whole thing work for me. Did a few examples to my satisfaction. Love the skin tone adjustment re: color, - it's fabulous. So again thanks.
Thats great to hear!!! Most important thing to hear back from people is that it's working for them in their scenarios! Glad this video could help
just came across your video i must say that your info about getting the perfect exposure and colors in davinic resolves have tech me a lot i was having problem getting my colors right I'm shooting in v-log on the Panasonic s5iix, just starting my business great video thanks bro
This is a great process you have illustrated. Very "pro-level." Much Thanks!
Thanks so much!
Davinci Resolve is a beast! I'm an Adobe Premiere user so seeing all this is whole proccess is just mind blowing
Start making the transition. You’ll never look back. I started first by using it for my coloring. About to make full transition to include editing.
Thisssss is just what I was looking for. Thank you. Definitely doing it this way right now.
Thanks so much glad it could help
🔥🔥🔥 keep me coming!
very informative. thank you for the well explained video
Till this day this is very helpful. Thanks Bro
Great video, thanks! I can't find F-Log in the Source Gamma for the color chart. What do I do?
I think you might want to rethink the order of operations here. Some of the steps are redundant in that you set the colors to the color chart which is also transforming the v-log to rec709 then you are white balancing, the exposure balancing using middle grey from v-log even though you have already transform the colorspace in the first node to rec709 which in Resolve is now scaled to the scopes at 500 - which is the middle of black to white on the scale- then you are doing the hue on the vectors - which is showing a blue being out - because the color chart was done before the white balance and you inadvertently changed the corrected hue by changing the white balance temperature.
Then checking the whole skin tone to a tiny power window on the guys cheek , begs the reason why you bothered qualifying the skin tones i n the first place, if that was your target - there was no reason to grab the key on the skin. You might be thinking that you only want the change on the skin but soon as you turn off that little power window it applies to the whole frame.
You know that if the hues and balance is done correctly, the skin tone will be most likely dead on the money.
Small tip to save you some time - set up your keyboard preferences for the TAB key to label nodes. Big time saver.
In most productions the color chart is not used to balance the colors - it is usually shot as a safety for bad camera settings. GH5 has a look to it - part of it is the color rendition.
Colorists are usually given only a couple of minutes per angle/clip to balance the shot. I am afraid that if all those steps were done in that order - would never make any money.
Use a CST and get your footage into rec709 - do the white balance - the chart is handy there. Then do exposure and balance. Once you have that down - grab a still and use that node tree as a starting point.
Thanks so much for all of the tips! This video was made over a year ago so some of the steps I’ve done here I don’t do anymore for that exact reason you mentioned of being redundant. really appreciate the Tips & insight! The tab shortcut def is a time saver I didn’t think about.
So do I get it right, that I normally shouldn't do "match colors" with the color chart and only fit the first row of colors to their corresponding points in vectorscope?
And what do you mean by "balance"?
@@JoeMooreProductions could you maybe update your video with the correct steps that are really needed?
@@konzeptzwei This video was uploaded almost 3 years ago and what I used at the time.
@@JoeMooreProductions we all know that, that is why I was asking for updating the video?
Super clear!! Thanks a lot!!!!
Glad it could help!
Great video! Thank you.
This is value bro!
Good look bro!
Well done👏🏻 in which website can I find this LUT on 21:14 ,, please give me a direct link bro..
I've copied down all the steps in doing this whole process. And I've started making it work for me. The image I'm working with has the Passport at the lower part of the screen. When I magnify the image to bring the Passport closer, it goes off the screen. How do you move the image up so the passport comes into view?
great content joe! love how you make the process simple to understand but extremely effective too, just wondering if you do the same workflow if you don't get the chance to record with the colour checker? keep it up!
Hey Samson, thanks for the comment! Yes and no when it comes to the same workflow if I don't use the color checker. So when setting up the shot I still will ALWAYS check my waveform levels to make sure my shot is not crushed in the blacks or blown in the highlights. Whether or not I under or overexpose and by how much just depends on what camera I'm shooting on and what flat profile I'm choosing to shoot with. The only thing that changes up if I don't have the color checker is me being able to set the 6 chromatic colors on point every time. But you can still get a base reading of your exposure and skin tone levels during production or in post production but you'll get MUCH better results if you set everything up to how you want it during production so it saves you time and hassle in post. Hope that answer helps!
Damm I learnt a lot on this one, need to rewatch for precision 🤝
But what if you want to apply this color correction to other clips from the film that does not have the color checker in the shot? Can you still just drop it on as a lut and it will look the same? Or do you have to have the color checker in the shot at every location and with every lighting and exposure change?
You could save this as a LUT and apply to different clips through out the same location, but if you move locations and you don't have a color checker the saved LUT will still work but you'd have to tweak the exposure and depending on if you're filming a different person(s) you'd have to fix the skin tones. You don't NEED the color checker, you can view the cameras exposure level on LCD screen or if it has a histogram look at that but having the color checker is a much quicker more efficient way to dial in on set and when going in post.
Bro you definitely just put me on game with this
🙏🏽🙏🏽
Wow...I’ve a quick question..how do you expose. Your v-log L on set ..while shooting .?
What I usually do is use this chart or if I don't have the chart try to keep the mid range around the 40-50% line in the waveform display on the GH5. Middle Gray on the GH5 Vlog 42IRE so if you keep it within that 40-50% line you'll be set. Another way to make sure is go into your settings on the gh5 and select the zebra and set the 1st zebra to 80-100 and the second zebra option to the lowest option (50%) and when you're exposing the image if you're on the 50% option when the zebras disappear from the skin or on the chart you're correctly exposed and not over exposing your mid tones line.
Joe Moore Productions thank you so much bro ...I’ll try this out and see what I can come up with
I imagine you could have skipped step one and still gotten good results. What does step one do to the image that you don’t get if you skip it?
Great video by the way.
Absolutely, Step one I'm not able to do inside of Premiere Pro like I was inside of Davinci Resolve and still got close to if not equal results. Using that chart to go from your source game to the target gamma and color space just is a quicker process than using a S-Curve to match the similar results. I would just say you know for sure it's correctly done with that chart step one process as opposed to just using the s-curve to convert that flat image into a rec-709 color space if that makes sense.
Holy smoke what the hell was i doing all this time your the man G
Haha it’s all good bro you were learning just like we all are! Hope this video helps improve the quality & worflow for your projects moving forward!
You wake up to coffee. NotiGang wakes up to Joe!
LMAO love this comment! I gotta wake up with coffee though. Coffee loves me and I love coffee.
Why didn’t you hit the color targets?
you are the best
cc6 after a colorchecker? seriously? there was absolutely no need in your first node then
Thanks for the feedback