It really is rare for a real life driver to be good at both road and oval, especially in completely different racing disciplines. But damn, there are some freaks out there. Even in NASCAR, you have freaks like Tony Stewart who could win on anything, antime, anywhere (or at least he used to, he has had real shit luck the last three years). The Rolex 24 in 2004 where he was driving with a broken suspension that was held together with a couple pieces of wood, and was basically winning without rear tires (and had a 3 lap lead), was one of the Godliest things I've seen in a race car. Even though it eventually gave out and he ended up losing, he really made me appreciate the talents in NASCAR (I was too young to see him in his open wheel days).
You are right as I doubt most road racer with exceptions are capable to be top racer at ovals, me included actually. I was good 3 decades ago with "Indianapolis 500", the 1st and only "good" fisics we had, played and I used to train every single day in BBS forms time competitions, like I said around 30-40 years ago, and I used an analog very precise flight joystick to play, after that playing only road, I cant, as I tested some days ago, Im not able to keep in top 10 group, yet, Im able to be top 10 and sometimes top 5 on road circuit. Resuming, why is that? Training and focus.
i was with my friend on Rfactor and he said "IndyCar is easy its not at all like rally it only has two corners (theres four) and you just have to mash it and hold a line" we took out some 2017 IndyCars i beat him by two seconds lap after lap then we finaly went racing and he didnt understand aero push or fule mapping or tire wear on ovals he was always in the pits and such
Im a guy who loves does both, Oval racing when you are the only car on track is piss easy even with a crap fixed setup. What makes Oval racing fun is the close racing. Road racing on the other hand is a lot more fun when driving by yourself and down side is you dont have as many close races. Side note, when once in a blue moon you have a really close race, You can't beat road racing!
Completely agree here. I was die hard road racer until I tried ovals. I really learned car control on ovals which greatly helped me perfect the "catch". This directly applied to my road racing when I got bent out of shape on a corner.
i got iracing with the plan of doing oval racing. road racing didnt really interest me. i started with the rookie street stocks and got very frustrated very quickly. i would get sr up only to have it fall so fast i would feel like quitting. so, i tried a mazda cup race just to check it out. i quickly fell in love with road racing. nobody fighting and calling each other names the whole time. respectfull racing, and good results got me hooked. i started to feel like i would never go back to ovals, but i did. once i got out of rookie oval races, it got cleaner. i am only a c class in oval now so i still see some wild stuff, but its much better now. i race the trucks mostly, and a little indy oval. i am a b license in raod. now im focusing on irating. i want to get in the higher splits. i took a beating in sr and irating by trying to race hpd's before i was ready. i race the mustang now. it seems to be a good car for my current skill level.
Oval: Field is tighter packed, mistakes can be more devastating. Road: Field is less packed, mistakes will hardly take out more than 3 cars after lap 1. I love oval for that reason, it's more intense for me and I love watching crashes.
Oval is more about the car to car combat. You really have to know how to manage with 25 cars around you. With road racing after the first lap it's basically all the track to yourself, and if you take that to F1, you will almost always get the best cars rising to the top no matter who drives them. Completely different worlds, both great of course.
Each discipline has it's hard points. Each takes an equal, but different, amount of skills to be fast. Each takes an equal, but different, amount of creativity on the race craft side of things as well. As a real life road course guy, I find road courses more appealing but, I still have a tremendous amount of respect for my friends and those on the oval side of things.
Pretty much. On an oval you have to be as close to that edge as possible as there just isn't a lot of ways to make up time, and most courses are rather symmetrical. As opposed to road racing where it's possible to be a tenth or three slower in a section, but you very well may never be passed. Lose 3 tenths in one corner of an oval and you finish mid pack at absolute best.
Thing is, even on oval tracks, if the engines are different, you should see gaps appearing. In F1 there are lone racing moments because the cars vary so much in quality. In GP2 and GP3 you get to see pack racing a lot more often. Well, conga lines, if you wish :)
a notable exception to the oval vs roadcourse drivers is nigel mansell. he won f1 championship in 92 (finally!!) then went straight over to indycar and won that at the 1st attempt and i think most of his victories were on ovals i agree totally with your point though
Great argument here, especially your impartiality. I have equal interest in both road and oval tracks, but when it comes to cars I definitely prefer touring cars (especially GT classes) to open wheel racers.
I will confess I used to scoff at oval racing. Had the very European mentality. But after trying it and failing miserably at it. I was so wrong about it, it's tough.. And I was much more mentally exhausted after an oval race than any road course I was on.
We'll said. The only thing I might add is that in road racing, like u mentioned, the competition isn't on ur rear bumper at every turn, in oval racing it usually is. If u have a huge lead you then have to deal and negotiate ur way thru lap traffic. Always in danger of wrecking. Also, in oval racing the speed is much greater than in road racing. Road racing by the time u get up to any kinda speed ur breaking for a turn. In oval racing, NASCAR for instance, the average 180mph, more or less depending on the size of the track.
Coming from an mostly oval racer on iRacing, I can say that road racing is almost just as enjoyable to me. I don't watch any road racing series, but that type of racing can be exciting at times. Something I wouldn't have realised outside of iRacing.
I'm a road racer by heart (european, never even seen a Real Life oval :P) but honestly i'm enjoying the hell out of ovals on Iracing. Close racing and REALY tense the entire race. on road after a couple of laps the field expands and gaps grow and you can just "run your laps" in your own way. On ovals, there is always someone in your face and sniffing your rear!
I've got the first NASCAR RACING , right here on my desk. I think it was the best one made. They had all the different places you could get great car and track mods, setups. The AI was so much better. These new computer will go into a dos like mode, but I don't think you could run it on there. I'd like to have an old windows 95 edition just so I could race that some more. It was the best one so far. The new one the AI is just out of control, can't work your way through it. Just my thoughts on Nascar.
Good summary. It generally grinds me when people get in to this Road Vs Oval argument. It annoys me why people can't just accept neither is harder or easier, they're just different disciplines of the same thing. I'm a road racer and feel that dabbling with Oval has made me a more complete driver. Both side offer skills the other does not. People who bicker about it and stick to one side are missing out.
I disagree with the last statement, all ovals have their character and are different, it can take a long time to get up to speed. Ive had to give up on a couple ovals because i can not find the speed, yet dominate on other ovals. You can see it in real drivers too, some are better elsewhere.
Being a racing fan in America is rough. I love the powerful V8s of Nascar but I’m not a fan of oval racing, I don’t like Indycar because open wheel cars are about as far as you can get from a production car ( I don’t understand everybody’s fascination with F1). I love IMSA and Trans-Am but good luck finding those races on tv. I am glad to see Nascar adding more road courses to the schedule and bringing the car out of the Stone Age and closer to modern race cars
I completely agree ... I have been a Oval driver. However I been trying some road. As a rookie (road) I started out real slow in practice always off track but after a week of dedication to track I began to understand lime rock much better with break timing and when to push gas. At first my issues was the car itself as far as the handling. Then I had to obviously learn the turns. Best finish is 3rd place. I still mainly do Oval as I am not as confident in road yet to be competent with racing and don't want to upset others.
might be over simplifying here, but are you saying that every lap in an oval race is a Qualifying lap on a road course where every tenth, bit of momentum, car set up, track positioning is important? If so, i guess i can agree with that.
I would consider myself a pretty good road racer and A few months ago I thought exactly the same, thought its just an oval so how hard can it be. I joined my first oval race without practising. HAHA bad move I couldn't even get around the track with out crashing into the barrier. Ended up retiring after 3 laps and haven't join another one since.
Ahem! I have one name. All be it he only completed one oval race of two attempts. But did remarkably well. Kimi Riakonen! The ice man. Had to get that out of my system.
I'll admit: I'm one of those road guys (more specifically, open-wheeler guys) who has the most pretentious views imaginable with regard to oval racing. The most diverse I typically get with the cars that I drive (sim racing of course) are usually GT cars and the closest I'll ever get to a "stock" car would be DTM. However, your video has left me with some food for thought and I just might be sampling some ovals and NASCAR machinery in short order.
I am still deciding of what I wanna race and do and I am still at a conflict in my head of what I want to race. Road or Ovals. One thing that gets to me mostly is the edurance in Road Racing and it buggs me how I can not focus on the laps and Time of the race at the same time. Ovals I can handle cause I am basically in a sandwitch going around the track most of the time. Road racing is fun for me but with a Time Limit....it just annoys me how I cant see how many minutes I have left in the race plus keep an eye out for other drivers on the track.
I race both oval/nascar and road courses. Both are a lot of fun I personaly prefer road courses but from time to time I do oval to change it up a bit normaly I prefer to race formula/open wheel cars on road courses but I still like both. Both have there good and bad things.
I think a lot of people assume that Europeans prefer road racing because of the variety in a track, while Americans prefer oval racing because of the closer finishes. I really feel, specially when I look at NASCAR, that the skill of the driver is more decisive in oval racing. Racing in a field of three lines next to each other and with very little space, while no car is faster because of ONLY the better setup, feels a lot more difficult to me. A car that is faster than another in road racing, doesn't need a better driver to finish on a better position. Road races are often decided by getting a big gap between cars or by defensive driving. Well, sorry, road racing fans, but blocking your opponent by obstructing him in turns in which it is already to win positions doesn't sound like racing to me. Racing is about who passes the finish line FIRST by being the fastest and the best skilled. Of course there are some great drivers who can perform an incredible and impossible looking trick, But relatively, I've seen this much more often in oval racing. If breaking in turns on a road circuit and the quality of the car are going to win you the race instead of speed and skill, well, that's just boring. I'm a European, but for this reason I prefer oval racing. I don't even watch F1 anymore, but enjoy Indycar and NASCAR a lot.
***** On road circuits, you need skill to get through corners. On ovals, you need skill to not rape the entire field and get past many, many people. I'm much better on road circuits as I'm not good when surrounded by loads of people. When you throw on guy into another area, they fail. Slower road course cars, like, Diahatsu midgets or a usual MX-5, will create close racing on a road course, though.
So we can only compare 1.5 mile ovals to 1.5 mile road courses? It's entirely fair, especially if we use VIR as our comparison point. If we can take the most difficult oval, why not the most difficult road course?
It remembers me the day i made one oval race, i said the as everyone, "How hard can be racing in the nascar" i crashed that day, for most pilots you can hardly get into oval racing and road racing and be good in both, is hard to understand both and be good, Montoya and Alonso both drivers tried F1, Indy and Endurace racing, Montoya is good in oval racing, Alonso is good in road racing, never ever think that oval is easier and have a lack of emotion, it have emotion, when you get closer you need to think where you can pass or mess all the race with one crash
On an expert level, i dont really know what's harder, but if we're talking a casual / mediocre level oval racing is so much easier than road racing. It doesn't really take alot of time to get a somewhat good time on an oval circuit (they're all very similar) but getting to know a road track, let's say Spa for example. And getting a respectable time in said track, takes days upon days upon days of practice. You have important throttle management in oval racing yes, but don't you have much more of that in road racing? in oval racing you pretty much only have to focus on your speed (as not to crash into the wall when cornering and maintaining a clean racing line. But don't you have that in road racing too? Now listen, im not saying oval racing isn't fun. It is extremely fun, because of the close racing you have almost all the time, it just feels great. But to me, road racing will always be infinitely harder to me, as you're basically able to drive on most oval circuits only requiring little practise and a basic analysis of the track. Road racing can be really frustrating sometimes, and really demanding of you. So when i need to cool off and just have some fun relaxing racing, i'll always pick up oval racing. This is not a knock on oval racing, im just saying to me theres a huge difference in commitment.
+Empty Box I have 2 questions. I don't use a wheel or pedal for oval because I'm relatively successful but would I need one for the road side? And is there a SPCCA Ford Racer league?
+Nishil Condoor I assume you use a controller? It can technically be done, but it'd be less than ideal for sure. Harder than it would be on an oval to use one, especially with a car like the SRF. Yes, I'm sure there is a SRF league you can find.
***** Finishing position is also largely dependent on the competition you face. But hey, why not? You already have some road cars and road tracks, give it a go and see how it works for ya.
I'm pretty competitive in both, I might even toot my own horn and say I'm good at both. But, I could easily be better at one or the other if I were willing to pursue them one at a time.
itastain Uhh, no. They are "dead" and splattered, just like you would experience in the real world... Though, the idea of a bug crawling around your windshield at 170 MPH is kinda funny - and distracting. LOL
Oval might still take skill....but not nearly enough as road lol There’s levels to driving like anything else difficult in life. A Kurt Busch might not transition very well into a Formula car, but a Schumacher might make smooth transition to oval. Or for actual example, Fernando Alonso.
Of course I have, it's just not fun going around in a giant circle. With a circuit you're braking, wrestling the car through the corner, the corners change, you've got to think more about how you're going to get past someone. It just feels like you're actually *driving* the car.
***** Well they're considering massive changes in F1 from releasing the fuel allowance/flow restrictions to banning the use of wind tunnels all together.
It really is rare for a real life driver to be good at both road and oval, especially in completely different racing disciplines. But damn, there are some freaks out there. Even in NASCAR, you have freaks like Tony Stewart who could win on anything, antime, anywhere (or at least he used to, he has had real shit luck the last three years). The Rolex 24 in 2004 where he was driving with a broken suspension that was held together with a couple pieces of wood, and was basically winning without rear tires (and had a 3 lap lead), was one of the Godliest things I've seen in a race car. Even though it eventually gave out and he ended up losing, he really made me appreciate the talents in NASCAR (I was too young to see him in his open wheel days).
"Oval is so much easier than road. You just turn left"
"Ski jumping is so much easier than slalom. You just jump"
Exactly
thank you im tired of road racers say that all i do is turn left but it really does take a lot of skill.
You are right as I doubt most road racer with exceptions are capable to be top racer at ovals, me included actually. I was good 3 decades ago with "Indianapolis 500", the 1st and only "good" fisics we had, played and I used to train every single day in BBS forms time competitions, like I said around 30-40 years ago, and I used an analog very precise flight joystick to play, after that playing only road, I cant, as I tested some days ago, Im not able to keep in top 10 group, yet, Im able to be top 10 and sometimes top 5 on road circuit. Resuming, why is that? Training and focus.
i was with my friend on Rfactor and he said "IndyCar is easy its not at all like rally it only has two corners (theres four) and you just have to mash it and hold a line" we took out some 2017 IndyCars i beat him by two seconds lap after lap then we finaly went racing and he didnt understand aero push or fule mapping or tire wear on ovals he was always in the pits and such
Im a guy who loves does both, Oval racing when you are the only car on track is piss easy even with a crap fixed setup. What makes Oval racing fun is the close racing. Road racing on the other hand is a lot more fun when driving by yourself and down side is you dont have as many close races.
Side note, when once in a blue moon you have a really close race, You can't beat road racing!
Racing is racing in my mind doesn't matter what the track is as long as this competition and good drivers I love it
Completely agree here. I was die hard road racer until I tried ovals. I really learned car control on ovals which greatly helped me perfect the "catch". This directly applied to my road racing when I got bent out of shape on a corner.
i got iracing with the plan of doing oval racing. road racing didnt really interest me. i started with the rookie street stocks and got very frustrated very quickly. i would get sr up only to have it fall so fast i would feel like quitting. so, i tried a mazda cup race just to check it out. i quickly fell in love with road racing. nobody fighting and calling each other names the whole time. respectfull racing, and good results got me hooked. i started to feel like i would never go back to ovals, but i did. once i got out of rookie oval races, it got cleaner. i am only a c class in oval now so i still see some wild stuff, but its much better now. i race the trucks mostly, and a little indy oval. i am a b license in raod. now im focusing on irating. i want to get in the higher splits. i took a beating in sr and irating by trying to race hpd's before i was ready. i race the mustang now. it seems to be a good car for my current skill level.
Jamie fucoph This is an excellent story.
Oval: Field is tighter packed, mistakes can be more devastating.
Road: Field is less packed, mistakes will hardly take out more than 3 cars after lap 1.
I love oval for that reason, it's more intense for me and I love watching crashes.
+duck74UK To me, the droning sound of an engine that stays flat out all the time is what gets me with oval racing. Otherwise it's good fun.
Oval is more about the car to car combat. You really have to know how to manage with 25 cars around you. With road racing after the first lap it's basically all the track to yourself, and if you take that to F1, you will almost always get the best cars rising to the top no matter who drives them. Completely different worlds, both great of course.
Each discipline has it's hard points. Each takes an equal, but different, amount of skills to be fast. Each takes an equal, but different, amount of creativity on the race craft side of things as well. As a real life road course guy, I find road courses more appealing but, I still have a tremendous amount of respect for my friends and those on the oval side of things.
Pretty much. On an oval you have to be as close to that edge as possible as there just isn't a lot of ways to make up time, and most courses are rather symmetrical. As opposed to road racing where it's possible to be a tenth or three slower in a section, but you very well may never be passed. Lose 3 tenths in one corner of an oval and you finish mid pack at absolute best.
Thing is, even on oval tracks, if the engines are different, you should see gaps appearing. In F1 there are lone racing moments because the cars vary so much in quality. In GP2 and GP3 you get to see pack racing a lot more often. Well, conga lines, if you wish :)
a notable exception to the oval vs roadcourse drivers is nigel mansell.
he won f1 championship in 92 (finally!!) then went straight over to indycar and won that at the 1st attempt and i think most of his victories were on ovals
i agree totally with your point though
Great argument here, especially your impartiality. I have equal interest in both road and oval tracks, but when it comes to cars I definitely prefer touring cars (especially GT classes) to open wheel racers.
Good talk. I wish more people realized how difficult and exciting oval racing can be.
Compare any oval you would like to the Nurburgring (or heck, VIR here in iRacing). Good luck!
Mat I am so glad I saw this and gave it a try, so much fun lol thx cheers
I will confess I used to scoff at oval racing. Had the very European mentality. But after trying it and failing miserably at it. I was so wrong about it, it's tough.. And I was much more mentally exhausted after an oval race than any road course I was on.
6:45 pretty much very F1 race now.
We'll said. The only thing I might add is that in road racing, like u mentioned, the competition isn't on ur rear bumper at every turn, in oval racing it usually is. If u have a huge lead you then have to deal and negotiate ur way thru lap traffic. Always in danger of wrecking. Also, in oval racing the speed is much greater than in road racing. Road racing by the time u get up to any kinda speed ur breaking for a turn. In oval racing, NASCAR for instance, the average 180mph, more or less depending on the size of the track.
monza? but i spose that's an exception
Coming from an mostly oval racer on iRacing, I can say that road racing is almost just as enjoyable to me. I don't watch any road racing series, but that type of racing can be exciting at times. Something I wouldn't have realised outside of iRacing.
i like them and respect them both evenly but i perfer and where my heart is at most is road racing
I'm a road racer by heart (european, never even seen a Real Life oval :P) but honestly i'm enjoying the hell out of ovals on Iracing. Close racing and REALY tense the entire race.
on road after a couple of laps the field expands and gaps grow and you can just "run your laps" in your own way. On ovals, there is always someone in your face and sniffing your rear!
I've got the first NASCAR RACING , right here on my desk. I think it was the best one made. They had all the different places you could get great car and track mods, setups. The AI was so much better. These new computer will go into a dos like mode, but I don't think you could run it on there. I'd like to have an old windows 95 edition just so I could race that some more. It was the best one so far. The new one the AI is just out of control, can't work your way through it. Just my thoughts on Nascar.
I'm mostly a road guy (ready for promotion to B) but I've tried oval racing and I really enjoy it. It's a lot of fun. Still a rookie tho
Good summary. It generally grinds me when people get in to this Road Vs Oval argument. It annoys me why people can't just accept neither is harder or easier, they're just different disciplines of the same thing. I'm a road racer and feel that dabbling with Oval has made me a more complete driver. Both side offer skills the other does not. People who bicker about it and stick to one side are missing out.
I disagree with the last statement, all ovals have their character and are different, it can take a long time to get up to speed. Ive had to give up on a couple ovals because i can not find the speed, yet dominate on other ovals. You can see it in real drivers too, some are better elsewhere.
Being a racing fan in America is rough. I love the powerful V8s of Nascar but I’m not a fan of oval racing, I don’t like Indycar because open wheel cars are about as far as you can get from a production car ( I don’t understand everybody’s fascination with F1). I love IMSA and Trans-Am but good luck finding those races on tv. I am glad to see Nascar adding more road courses to the schedule and bringing the car out of the Stone Age and closer to modern race cars
I completely agree ... I have been a Oval driver. However I been trying some road. As a rookie (road) I started out real slow in practice always off track but after a week of dedication to track I began to understand lime rock much better with break timing and when to push gas. At first my issues was the car itself as far as the handling. Then I had to obviously learn the turns. Best finish is 3rd place. I still mainly do Oval as I am not as confident in road yet to be competent with racing and don't want to upset others.
+ron the I should add that I learned a lot from road racing has helped me more in Oval as well.
might be over simplifying here, but are you saying that every lap in an oval race is a Qualifying lap on a road course where every tenth, bit of momentum, car set up, track positioning is important? If so, i guess i can agree with that.
just to be a douche: mathematically speaking there are no corners in an oval. :P
On a more serious note: great video's man!
I would consider myself a pretty good road racer and
A few months ago I thought exactly the same, thought its just an oval so how hard can it be.
I joined my first oval race without practising. HAHA bad move I couldn't even get around the track with out crashing into the barrier. Ended up retiring after 3 laps and haven't join another one since.
Ahem! I have one name. All be it he only completed one oval race of two attempts. But did remarkably well. Kimi Riakonen! The ice man. Had to get that out of my system.
I'll admit: I'm one of those road guys (more specifically, open-wheeler guys) who has the most pretentious views imaginable with regard to oval racing. The most diverse I typically get with the cars that I drive (sim racing of course) are usually GT cars and the closest I'll ever get to a "stock" car would be DTM. However, your video has left me with some food for thought and I just might be sampling some ovals and NASCAR machinery in short order.
I am still deciding of what I wanna race and do and I am still at a conflict in my head of what I want to race. Road or Ovals. One thing that gets to me mostly is the edurance in Road Racing and it buggs me how I can not focus on the laps and Time of the race at the same time. Ovals I can handle cause I am basically in a sandwitch going around the track most of the time. Road racing is fun for me but with a Time Limit....it just annoys me how I cant see how many minutes I have left in the race plus keep an eye out for other drivers on the track.
Hit the F1 key. It'll show you how much time is left.
I race both oval/nascar and road courses. Both are a lot of fun I personaly prefer road courses but from time to time I do oval to change it up a bit normaly I prefer to race formula/open wheel cars on road courses but I still like both. Both have there good and bad things.
I think a lot of people assume that Europeans prefer road racing because of the variety in a track, while Americans prefer oval racing because of the closer finishes. I really feel, specially when I look at NASCAR, that the skill of the driver is more decisive in oval racing. Racing in a field of three lines next to each other and with very little space, while no car is faster because of ONLY the better setup, feels a lot more difficult to me. A car that is faster than another in road racing, doesn't need a better driver to finish on a better position. Road races are often decided by getting a big gap between cars or by defensive driving. Well, sorry, road racing fans, but blocking your opponent by obstructing him in turns in which it is already to win positions doesn't sound like racing to me. Racing is about who passes the finish line FIRST by being the fastest and the best skilled. Of course there are some great drivers who can perform an incredible and impossible looking trick, But relatively, I've seen this much more often in oval racing. If breaking in turns on a road circuit and the quality of the car are going to win you the race instead of speed and skill, well, that's just boring. I'm a European, but for this reason I prefer oval racing. I don't even watch F1 anymore, but enjoy Indycar and NASCAR a lot.
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On road circuits, you need skill to get through corners.
On ovals, you need skill to not rape the entire field and get past many, many people.
I'm much better on road circuits as I'm not good when surrounded by loads of people.
When you throw on guy into another area, they fail.
Slower road course cars, like, Diahatsu midgets or a usual MX-5, will create close racing on a road course, though.
So we can only compare 1.5 mile ovals to 1.5 mile road courses?
It's entirely fair, especially if we use VIR as our comparison point. If we can take the most difficult oval, why not the most difficult road course?
Empty Box Tyler Majeski Will Blow You Away.
I should hope.
Indy has 4 distinct corners
It remembers me the day i made one oval race, i said the as everyone, "How hard can be racing in the nascar" i crashed that day, for most pilots you can hardly get into oval racing and road racing and be good in both, is hard to understand both and be good, Montoya and Alonso both drivers tried F1, Indy and Endurace racing, Montoya is good in oval racing, Alonso is good in road racing, never ever think that oval is easier and have a lack of emotion, it have emotion, when you get closer you need to think where you can pass or mess all the race with one crash
I want to go oval aswell... but the D license races are always empty... So as soon as I'm out of rookie i have no1 to race against :(
keep doing the legends. then once you get to 4.0 do the c class
On an expert level, i dont really know what's harder, but if we're talking a casual / mediocre level oval racing is so much easier than road racing. It doesn't really take alot of time to get a somewhat good time on an oval circuit (they're all very similar) but getting to know a road track, let's say Spa for example. And getting a respectable time in said track, takes days upon days upon days of practice. You have important throttle management in oval racing yes, but don't you have much more of that in road racing? in oval racing you pretty much only have to focus on your speed (as not to crash into the wall when cornering and maintaining a clean racing line. But don't you have that in road racing too?
Now listen, im not saying oval racing isn't fun. It is extremely fun, because of the close racing you have almost all the time, it just feels great. But to me, road racing will always be infinitely harder to me, as you're basically able to drive on most oval circuits only requiring little practise and a basic analysis of the track. Road racing can be really frustrating sometimes, and really demanding of you. So when i need to cool off and just have some fun relaxing racing, i'll always pick up oval racing. This is not a knock on oval racing, im just saying to me theres a huge difference in commitment.
Combine both with ozzy V8 supercars, ozzy's and kiwi's know how to throw a 8 around.
I tried ovals today, I liked it, I’ll be back
Thank you for saying NASCAR car. and again great video.
What game title is these?
Is this a disk or download?
I believe that the game he is playing is iRacing. It's on PC only, and it has a subscription fee.
+Empty Box I have 2 questions. I don't use a wheel or pedal for oval because I'm relatively successful but would I need one for the road side? And is there a SPCCA Ford Racer league?
+Nishil Condoor I assume you use a controller? It can technically be done, but it'd be less than ideal for sure. Harder than it would be on an oval to use one, especially with a car like the SRF. Yes, I'm sure there is a SRF league you can find.
+Empty Box no I have never used one. I use touch screen and the keyboard. But I still get a ton of top 5's.
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Finishing position is also largely dependent on the competition you face.
But hey, why not? You already have some road cars and road tracks, give it a go and see how it works for ya.
+Empty Box thanks for the advice! I will see you out on track.
+TheEmptyBox Plays touch screen and keyboard how in the world? i must see this
I've tried both and I honestly prefer the oval.
I'm pretty competitive in both, I might even toot my own horn and say I'm good at both. But, I could easily be better at one or the other if I were willing to pursue them one at a time.
is that a bug on your windshield?
Yes it is.
Empty Box
lol. Do they ever move around on the windscreen at all?
itastain
Uhh, no. They are "dead" and splattered, just like you would experience in the real world...
Though, the idea of a bug crawling around your windshield at 170 MPH is kinda funny - and distracting. LOL
unless you're Alonzo then every track is easy
Is that a computer game?
its really just better to say the series, or stock car
i tried road racing and i suck sooooooo much im sticking with oval
Oval might still take skill....but not nearly enough as road lol There’s levels to driving like anything else difficult in life. A Kurt Busch might not transition very well into a Formula car, but a Schumacher might make smooth transition to oval. Or for actual example, Fernando Alonso.
I just wish I could. On console Nascar Heat series isn't that simulative
thats not even a fair comparison in terms of scale ffs.
I'm sorry, but I'm not sure any case people make about oval racing can change my views on it.
Of course I have, it's just not fun going around in a giant circle. With a circuit you're braking, wrestling the car through the corner, the corners change, you've got to think more about how you're going to get past someone. It just feels like you're actually *driving* the car.
***** Well they're considering massive changes in F1 from releasing the fuel allowance/flow restrictions to banning the use of wind tunnels all together.
Road takes more skill than Oval, I don't care what anyone says especially an American.
Formula 1 is the pinnacle of motorsport.